Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-04 Thread greatgnu
> I successfully installed it (.deb after .deb) on Trisquel 7 but it does not work How about compiling the sources? I've read the instructions in the readme file - pretty straightforward.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
My theory is that all of this dissent is due to one thing and one thing only: The giddiness comparable to that of a child on Christmas morning that cannot wait to open their presents. An impatient child in the back seat of a car on its way to Disneyland who constantly asks "are we there

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread greatgnu
>Hear hear! Plus, if we figure a release (roughly) every two years it's not even been two years since version 7 came out. So 8 shouldn't even be on the radar until late 2016. Possibly even 2017... Nah, we are the **libres**, we demand, we pretend and we want it now, else there will be dire

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread greatgnu
> Some people here vocally talk about their use of Debian, particularly Testing/Unstable. So I think that the idea that we are content with older software is exaggerated. I wouldn't give my Stable for all the new free software in the World. Versionitis can be cured, no need for a hammer

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
Enigmail uses the gpg2 binary now instead of original gpg because gpg2 solves many problems with the implementation of gpg. If you change a key in gpg, gpg2 doesn't always update the key. I changed my gpg key password using "gpg --edit-key" but since Enigmail uses gpg2 it would only accept

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
Following on, what I did was export my private key from my gpg keyring, delete my private key from my gpg2 keyring, then re-import it. Enigmail worked great after that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
what bureaucracy? There is only one or two people! They don't owe us anything at all. We owe them for the thousands of unpaid hours they devoted to this project I agree that more communication would be nice. I'm sure they feel that way too. So the lack of communication is despite

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
OK, once and for all: What is wrong with Trisquel 7? What sacrifices are you making by using Trisquel 7 that you won't have to make once Trisquel 8 comes out? Do you have any intermediate step--like upgrading individual programs you need upgraded?

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
By the way, I heard a rumour that the latest Ubuntu release is having some serious problems. Apparently they released too soon and now they have a lot of back peddling to do. It is a little embarrassing actually. I''m so glad we didn't just dive in after them. Let's let them work it out

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
Reminds me of how MediaTek complained about people reverse-engineering their kernels...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread calmstorm
the problem with chromebooks though is until they have a decent amount of memory, (128 gigabytes or more) they will not have much use even if you put libreboot on it and remove all blobs by some miracle...

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
Well, they could give us more than one single blog post. It is their responsibility to keep interest in their project as its developers. Status updates do not mean daily. They do not even mean monthly, just a small idea of how things are going. Maybe it would encourage people to help,

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
That is an excellent point! In fact, it is the best point. Even in this case, however, there is often work that can be done to try and solve the problem before the new release. In fact, this is one way we can help the development of Trisquel 8. It may be the only way to solve the

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread matt
lemme guess... systemd

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
No, systemd is very good at the job it does. There are legitimate qualms with its design but systemd has nothing to do with the brokenness of Ubuntu 16.04.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel installation - Checking

2016-06-04 Thread alejandrohp
" "unclaimed" (not recognized or correctly known by kernel) in the normal CLI listing in a terminal window " = not working with the OS ? * Most of the red reports came form the Intel Processor: Xeon E5/Core i7 CPU Internal L3 and ohters thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread 0d54770d
Part of the issue is that there are some packages that cannot be updated separately, because they lack the proper dependencies. Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I have a problem where I cannot fill out PDF files in Trisquel; perhaps it's just because I'm using Libreboot, but the

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread onpon4
I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 lately, and I have less problems with it than I had with either Trisquel 7 or Debian 8. The only problems I've experienced are that the graphical key management program and Enigmail don't seem to be storing the same keys as the command-line GnuPG (no idea why;

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
If you have been reading my posts you would guess correctly that this 'rumour' is not real. The idea was to illustrate how misguided it is to focus on Ubuntu when talking about the Trisquel development cycle. When it comes to Ubuntu I have 5 words: 1. Who 2. Cares 3. Get 4. Over 5. It If

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread onpon4
The GNU GPL doesn't place requirements on how much money you can make selling copies of programs. The only limitation is you can't require an additional fee for someone who you have already given a binary to getting the source code to that binary. You can charge $1,000,000 for a copy of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
The low-end Chromebooks are just cheapo laptops. I'm thinking more of the high-end ones. Some have 4GB or more memory. I've even seen a 15-inch Chromebook with 8G of RAM (I think it was an HP one?). The Google Pixel was pretty good apparently. So they're basically generic laptops with

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
And you have a point. I think we should get into it after Trisquel 8 release. Do you think they are unaware that we would like feedback?

Re: [Trisquel-users] amdgpu is considered "open source", but how is it considered worthy of deblobbing by the Linux Libre kernel?

2016-06-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
As an extra note: if you go to the Linux kernel project's official website and click on the big button to download the source, you'll get a .tar.gz with various directories, one of which is "firmware", and this one has the blobs. So, they still distribute the non-free parts. signature.asc

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
I know they don't owe us anything. If they wanted to make their lives easier they could always, you know, ask for help. And they need more people because development seems to be at a snail's speed. What I'm saying is they don't seem to be very inclusive, small things like giving periodic

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
Obviously they are aware that they want feedback otherwise they wouldn't have produced that blog post when people demanded news. They perhaps think that people will say "why don't you wait, do you really need newer software" to anyone who asks for news and are content in staying without

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread Ignacio Agulló
mn...@openmailbox.org, Sáb 04 Xuñ 2016 23:21:34 CEST: An impatient child in the back seat of a car on its way to Disneyland who constantly asks "are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?..." I know that this may come out as a surprise to you, but

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread jason
This is why I say Sunday, July 18, 2106. Now those professionals have something to put on the calendar. (And when Trisquel 8 ships decades before that date they can be happy and say "Wow - Shipping in advance of a deadline - How awesome!" (And I wonder what those professionals do for other

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread tegskywalker
Care to provide sources to backup your claims? Does this regard all Ubuntu versions or just the main one with Unity? I've heard that Ubuntu MATE 16.04 is a stellar release due to the love Martin Wimpress puts into it. This is why I sincerely hope that Trisquel 8 settles on MATE. But we are

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
"I know that this may come out as a surprise to you, but professional people always work with timelines in mind." It doesn't surprise me at all. You know what would surprise me? If Ruben came here and said he has a nice professional timeline for us: Trisquel 8 will be released June 5th,

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread tegskywalker
If you gave him a donation, you should be entitled to updates. You are paying him to work on the project and he should respect those who financially support him. What are you paying for? Hope that your benevolent dictator throws you scraps? That you will praise him without getting anything

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-04 Thread danigaritarojas
The European Commission is a known slave of the establishment. "European Commission enabling blockade of WikiLeaks by U.S. hard-right Lieberman/King, contrary to European Parliament’s wishes" 27 November 2012 https://wikileaks.org/European-Commission-enabling.html They will use this as an

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-04 Thread danigaritarojas
I want to remark something from your first link >"despite a lengthy negotiation between companies and the Commission, “hate speech” remains vaguely-defined. Companies have been tasked with taking the lead on determining what constitutes hate speech, with potentially disastrous results."

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
Here is a pattern I normally see with distro versions: 1 < 2 < 3 < 4 < 5 < 6 < 7 < 8 < 9 and so on. In other words, there is a direct correlation between time and improvement. This would imply that the longer we wait, the better it will be! Also, if you insist on thinking in terms of

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread jason
Hear hear! Plus, if we figure a release (roughly) every two years it's not even been two years since version 7 came out. So 8 shouldn't even be on the radar until late 2016. Possibly even 2017...

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-04 Thread danigaritarojas
>"This law is yet another step further into shaping public opinion & controlling dissent" [...] >"I fear that this law will mostly target activist that fight for justice or try and raise public awareness (many a times public resistance is towards these very same corporate interests)" A

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-04 Thread pinmaritim
This is a major clamp down on Freedom of expression and joins the Directive on Terrorism: The European Parliament against our freedoms https://www.laquadrature.net/en/terrorisme-directive-european-parliament-against-liberties

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel installation - Checking

2016-06-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Regarding the "Device Administrator" and how to check if everything works: One can do so by using your favorite text editor to open and read these files: "/var/log/syslog" "/var/log/dmesg" "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" And, search for "err", "warn", "caut" and "att" to look for errors, warnings,

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
"Yeah well there is no communication." OK, he is working and not communicating with us "blog post was put out only after people complained about lack of news." OK, he is still working and now communicating with us "we are justified to assume nothing is happening." No. I disagree. As you can see

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread jadedml
Exactly! We need to appreciate all of Ruben's hard work and realize that we aren't entitled to him giving us status updates.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel installation - Checking

2016-06-04 Thread enduzzer
I think it's the same as "unclaimed" (not recognized or correctly known by kernel) in the normal CLI listing in a terminal window. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59201/unclaimed-device-in-lshw#60332

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
"We need more direct participation in Trisquel's development." I think this is a valid point. But it is a right idea at the wrong time. Creating an effective team of skilled developers takes time. We are close enough to Trisquel 8, that it could take more time to build a working team than

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread mnaus
"So, those of us who feel we deserved to be informed should change to Ubuntu?" WHAT!?! Is it that much of a sacrifice to be patient until Trisquel 8 comes out? By the way, what is wrong with Trisquel 7 ?? Is something broken on your system? Why does Trisquel 8 matter so much to you? Or,

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread dguthrie
> There is an assumption that Ruben is not working on this. Isn't it possible that he is working very hard at releasing it and is running into some problems that take time to fix? Yeah well there is no communication. So we are justified to assume nothing is happening. Remember that blog

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel installation - Checking

2016-06-04 Thread alejandrohp
:( And it is not into warranty time. :( Thanks,

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-04 Thread alejandrohp
 Gracias. A ver si esa versión funciona bien, de verdad.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Here in Brazil we have the consumer defense code, which has articles against tying. However, this is a subjective right, not an objective right. This means that, it does exist by law, but only applies if the party involved wants to exercise it. If it would be objective, perhaps no redistributor

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread Ignacio Agulló
jade...@openmailbox.org, Sáb 04 Xuñ 2016 17:09:53 CEST: Exactly! We need to appreciate all of Ruben's hard work and realize that we aren't entitled to him giving us status updates. So, those of us who feel we deserved to be informed should change to Ubuntu?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
No software is always reliable, cheap, secure. Not even GNU+Linux in general, and not even free software. However, if there's one thing that free software promises and has a chance to guarantee at long terms is: the respect to society's essential freedoms. To give you an idea, software that is

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread davesamcdxv
Can it be bootstrapped yet?

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread davesamcdxv
The rest of your post aside, I don't think I see any claims that the project is open (only that the software is free, libre)

Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?

2016-06-04 Thread niyaschirayakuth
Just after seeing title of this post, I was expecting to see this cliche answer ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-06-04 Thread enduzzer
I made audio keys work. Added these lines in /home/user/.xbindkeysrc. The keybindings can be obtained isuuing the command xbindkeys -k and hitting the buttons. There's a blankl window that pops up. ## Volume down "amixer sset Master 5%-" m:0x0 + c:122 XF86AudioLowerVolume ## Volume up