In a message dated 6/28/2004 4:48:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
think it would depend on whether or not you were saved before you were six. I became a new creature at 47.
How did that happen? You haven't been a Christian that long. Give us the whole story, young man.
In a message dated 6/28/2004 3:51:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
God Himself says that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children unto the 4th and sometimes the 10th generation. When did His personality change?
JudyT
Actually, the person of God never changes b
DAVEH: Thank you for your below response, Slade. However, would you
be so kind as to explain what there is in the Bible that makes you
think there is not a pre-mortal existence of our spirits? IOW.are
there any passages that lead you to think our spirits did not exist
prior to our birth?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH,
DAVEH: No problem, Perry. I appreciate your viewpoint and comments.
but I think something important needs to be pointed out
with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could
Jonathan;
Your analysis below is an ad hominem attack; you don't
know me nor do you understand a thing I have said in the right context so how
are you qualified to evaluate the condition of my heart before God?
Read my post again and show me where I said Jenna (or our son-in-law) had "deep
From: "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>For those
interested in getting a balanced view on Judy's mentor Henry Wright (the pastor
who wrote The More Excellent Way) please see the following link: http://www.bible.org/docs/br/bookreview-01.htm
judyt:
Please folks please do not go t
In a message dated 6/27/2004 11:18:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hereâs
a question for you all. Do you
believe there are such things a âsoul tiesâ? If so, what are they, and how do they
work? Izzy
Great question. I'm anxious to hear the viewpo
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH, but I think something important
needs to be pointed out with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and
humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could pre-exist, why not others? Jer 1:4-5 seems
evidential. And, Job (38:4-7) speaks of the morning stars and s
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse lighting' Terry
but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it was Pharoah who
hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before God finally hardened it
for good before which he had plenty of opportunities to go the other way.
Nebuchadne
Judy,
2 + 2 will always equal 4 whether you
believe it or not. You have been caught misusing the Bible with your
argument from silence whether you believe it or not. It is all there for
everyone to read. You hook it up with a grievous view on
illness. What disgusts me is your post
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:35:20 PM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy:I saw that same show
(twins). I believe that 'who we are at 6 is who we are at 60. Anyone
who's know anyone for decades will probably support my 'sense' of this
observa
DAVEH: From my (LDS) perspective, I believe stories to which you are
referring could be true (midrash (parable) stories of souls speaking with God
before they're implanted in a body on earth) And,
they would be further evidence of a pre-mortal existence of our
spirits.
I do
no
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:36:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ALL SCRIPTURE (including Psalms and Proverbs) is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
Slightly off the subject:
Cer
Judy Taylor wrote:
Can you show me in the scriptures why this
belief is aberrant Lance? Are you one of those who believe the
disciples asking this question were 'ignorant' and didn't know any
better? Arn't you the one who keeps saying that I an the victim of
enlightenment thinking
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:35:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy:I saw that same show (twins). I believe that 'who we are at 6 is who we are at 60. Anyone who's know anyone for decades will probably support my 'sense' of this observation.I believe this to be as true of
Can you show me in the scriptures why this belief is
aberrant Lance? Are you one of those who believe the disciples asking this
question were 'ignorant' and didn't know any better? Arn't you the one who
keeps saying that I an the victim of enlightenment thinking? God Himself
says that the
Not when neither of us were even saying what Jonathan
came up with - I believe he has conceded this point
jt
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Terry: Even if you didn't, do you agreewith
Jonathan's point?
From: Terry Clifton
Jonathan Hughes wrote:This is a dangerous and reckless
In a message dated 6/28/2004 3:03:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Though I cannot say that I have not been guilty of doing exactly that, the idea does not sit well with me. There are people who contend that it is a sin to bet on a football game because the soldiers cast lot
Jonathan Hughes wrote:
Hi Terry,
This
aside, what
do you think of the content of my post? Do you think using ‘arguments
from silence’ is a responsible way of interpreting the Bible?
Jonathan
Though I
cannot say that I have not been guilty of do
I add my amen to this . As for Daivd M-- he is currently slugging it out with the tough guy Christian club on another channel. I am sure he is keeping in touch.
John
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:34:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No Lance, I do not. Nor do I disagree. If I had an opinion, I would
not have asked others to help me understand. All I was able to point
out was possibilities. I would like to have an opinion, but I do not
have enough information to form one on this subject. Even in my black
and white world
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:34:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let me try that again
If all A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's... right?
This was not true the last time I spoke with my ex-wife. But, I am not sure what the conclusion of that d
In a message dated 6/28/2004 1:33:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This aside, what do you think of the content of my post? Do you think using âarguments from silenceâ is a responsible way of interpreting the Bible?
I was raised in a fellowship that actually saw doctrinal
Judy:Sad to observe that you actually believe this.
How utterly aberrant.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 27, 2004 16:03
Subject: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request
Hi Slade:
Thank you for posting this scripture. I know a lot
Good points Izzy,
And even the medical community are admitting that this
is so. I just purchased a book called "Toxic Emotions" by Dr. Don Colbert
and in it he is going over much of what we are talking about. I see it in
my family - in ancestors, us, and our own children; it makes me every
Izzy:I saw that same show (twins). I believe that
'who we are at 6 is who we are at 60. Anyone who's know anyone for decades will
probably support my 'sense' of this observation.I believe this to be as true of
Christians as non-christians.
ST: just a close friendship.
- Original Mess
From: "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hi Slade, If you
read what Judy says below I hope alarm bells are going off in your head.
This is an excellent example of how we take scripture and
make it mean whatever we want it to. In other words we force our meaning on the text.
judyt: Why
A 'must-read' post for all of us. This should
include the now absent David Miller.
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From:
Jonathan Hughes
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 27, 2004 22:42
Subject: [TruthTalk] Exegetical Fallacies
and Generational Sin
Hi
Slade,
Slade Henson wrote:
There are many midrash (parable) stories of
souls speaking with God before they're implanted in a body on earth,
but I've always understood those stories to tell a greater theological
or moral story... but that the story was not factual.
DAVEH: From my (LDS) per
Hi Terry,
Your exact words were:
Bill
reopened this can of worms for me a couple of days back. Judy responded
to it. Both made some points, some good points, yet I was left wondering,
as I have been for a long time, as to just what God expects of His people in time
of war. Jesus a
Let me
try that again
If all
A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's...
right?
This,
too, is a minor point of difference. While I agree with Scripture that an
"UNdeserved curse goes NOwhere," I do not necessarily believe the exact opposite
occurs every time. If so, none of us would exist this very day. I
trust the words of Yeshua who said that the man's plight was not
My apologies to anyone that receives this
twice. It has been an hour and it doesn’t seem to have gone
through.
Jonathan
From: Jonathan Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:51
AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Exegetical Fallacies
Izzy:An aside (I think) America was not, is not
and, will never be a 'Christian' nation except in name only. Compare Muslim
'nations'.
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 27, 2004 23:57
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians and
Violence
I
wonder h
Judyt:Amen on the 'hatred' observation. I do,
however, believe that there exists genuine 'hatred' , in practice, between
believing groups in America.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 27, 2004 17:03
Subject: [TruthTalk] Chris
Terry:Even if you didn't, do you agreewith
Jonathan's point?
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From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 27, 2004 23:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exegetical
Fallacies and Generational Sin
Jonathan Hughes wrote:
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