I didn't make any rule about the 'curse lighting' Terry but it is in God's Word.  In the exceptions you give it was Pharoah who hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before God finally hardened it for good before which he had plenty of opportunities to go the other way.  Nebuchadnessar was a pagan king who lifted himself up in pride. Neither were part of God's covenant people. In Joseph's case it was the jealousy of his own brothers that cause his stress and what they meant for evil God turned around and used for good.  I know Calvins theology ascribes everything (both good and evil) to God making him responsible for both and Calvinism is the basis for what they call the Reformed faith.  I've studied this for a long time and I don't see God making people sick for his glory ever.  The scriptures clearly teach that sick people are oppressed by the devil.  God is glorified when they are made well by His Word.
 
 
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You might want to consider, Judy, that there are exceptions to the rule.  Sickness came about because of sin, and what you say above is almost always true, but there are instances where God used an individual for His own purposes.  He hardened pharoah's heart.  He made Nebuchadnessar to eat grass like a cow, He had Joseph put into captivity for years, all for His own purpose.  I suggest that He did the same with this blind man.  In fact, from what Jesus said, I think there can be no doubt about it.  He was used to glorify his creator, and was rewarded by being given his sight.  After being blind from birth, I am sure he was more thankful to God for his sight than most of us are.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
Can you show me in the scriptures why this belief is aberrant Lance?  Are you one of those who believe the disciples asking this question were 'ignorant' and didn't know any better?  Arn't you the one who keeps saying that I an the victim of enlightenment thinking?  God Himself says that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children unto the 4th and sometimes the 10th generation.  When did His personality change?  I think it much sadder to be deceived by doctrines that do not conform one to godliness.
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