Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/13/2004 10:31:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:35:26 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/13/2004 2:26:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: So, eventually , on this earth, I Co 8:1-3

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 02:13:12 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:35:26 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:In a message dated 10/13/2004 2:26:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:John: So, eventually , on this earth, I Co 8:1-3 can be cut out of our

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, and one more thing. Pokeman will lead to nothing of the kind unless done to excess. We celebrate Christmas and entertain Halloween. Been doing it for 38 years with my kids and now the grand kids. All of them Christians. All of them in some capacity of Christian leadership.

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:31:23 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: Oh, and one more thing. Pokeman will lead to nothing of the kind unless done to excess. We celebrate Christmas and entertain Halloween. Been doing it for 38 years with my kids and now the grand kids. All of

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/14/2004 12:26:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/13/2004 11:14:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt: What is the reality John? I must be missing something. What is more sure than God's Word? The scriptures you

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:58:56 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt:What is the reality John? I must be missing something. What is more sure than God's Word? The scriptures you cite here all have to do with eating blood, things strangled, and things sacrificed to idols. I'm aware of

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/12/2004 10:56:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You were the one lamenting our lack of unity weren't you John? judyt uhhh, yes I was. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/12/2004 10:56:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You were the one lamenting our lack of unity weren't you John? judyt On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:08:44 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 10:10:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:50:44 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/12/2004 10:56:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You were the one lamenting our lack of unity weren't you John? judyt On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:08:44 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat In a message dated 10/12/2004 10:56:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/13/2004 6:19:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And -- unity that is of God is a heart thing, not a knowledge thing. J judyt: I know, and it eventually happens among those who have a heart to receive and obey the truth. So, eventually , on this

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/13/2004 6:57:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, they are ultimately one and the same. If we really know Him (therefore receiving His Spirit) we will not misunderstand of His Word in any crucial manner. Izzy Nonsense. J

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Slade Henson
It's both(i.e.,"Let us REASON together..."). And -- unity that is of God is a heart thing, not a knowledge thing. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:07:33 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/13/2004 6:19:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And -- unity that is of God is a heart thing, not a knowledge thing. J judyt:I know, and it eventually happens among those who

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:35:26 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/13/2004 2:26:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:John: So, eventually , on this earth, I Co 8:1-3 can be cut out of our Bibles. I'll sharpen my scissors. Most of us on TT have

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/11/2004 10:10:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt: Then our dilemma must be "Who has the correct God"? Your dilemma, not mine. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-12 Thread Judy Taylor
You were the one lamenting our lack of unity weren't you John? judyt On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:08:44 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 10:10:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt:Then our dilemma must be "Who has the correct God"?

[TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Judy Taylor
uot;O' foolish Galatians who hath bewitched you" From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Paul says that if you break one segment of th

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Slade Henson
PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Monday, 11 October, 2004 02.29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat I think that one thing being left out of the equation below is that since Messiah came we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which now makes i

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: Terry, I dont think sin is funny, ever. Sometimes I laugh at it too, but that is so wrong. More importantly, I dont think we should jokingly accuse people of sin wrongfully. If we are serious we should just confront them with it

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: I think that one thing being left out of the equation below is that since Messiah came we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which now makes it POSSIBLE for Believers to obey the Law, if they so choose. What do you think of that? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/11/2004 5:33:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to get along with everyone, but not at the expense of changing one letter of God's word. I am sure everyone on the list can agree that it can be no other way. Aahh -- unity. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:28:25 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 5:33:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I want to get along with everyone, but not at the expense of changing one letter of God's word. I am sure everyone on the list can

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/11/2004 7:25:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 5:33:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to get along with everyone, but not at the expense of changing one letter of God's word. I am sure everyone

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:47:12 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 7:25:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:In a message dated 10/11/2004 5:33:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I want to get along with everyone, but not

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2004 5:33:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to get along with everyone, but not at the expense of changing one letter of God's word. I am sure everyone on the list can agree that it can be no other way.

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/11/2004 1:42:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unity with God first. Without that it won't matter how many people I agree/disagree with. Terry Absolutely correct. Actually, that is my definition for unity. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:54:08 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/2004 1:42:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unity with God first. Without that it won't matter how many people I agree/disagree with. Terry John writes:Absolutely correct.

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Slade Henson
r you because you cannot seem to grasp something so basic. Terryslade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Sunday, 10 October, 2004 14.16Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Paul says that if you break

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Terry Clifton
Terry's response in bold. Slade Henson wrote: Paul says that if you break one segment of the law, you have broken all. Peter says no Jew has ever been able to keep the whole thing, The Bible makes it clear that the law cannot save us, only condemn us. Peter said no Jew was

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Slade Henson
One thing you said I agree with, Terry. You said you don't have to keep Torah and neither does any Christian. That is correct. No one HAS to do anything. Besides that, there is nothing else I can agree with. You see and I hear and we cannot communicate in this realm... much like Helen

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: One thing you said I agree with, Terry. You said you don't have to keep Torah and neither does any Christian. That is correct. No one HAS to do anything. Besides that, there is nothing else I can agree with. You see and I hear and we cannot communicate in this

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat ShieldsFamily wrote: Jeff, I didnt know Terry made the joke first. Sorry. I consider

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Paul says that if you break one segment of the law, you have broken all. Peter says no Jew has ever been able to keep the whole thing, The Bible

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Jeff Powers wrote: What about the Bet Dein (Jerusalem council) of Acts 15? Jeff Absolutely! "Clergy" has become a word to describe a hierarchy that never was intended and did not exist in the early church or in God's plan. A living organism (Church) has become a giant

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Slade Henson
If anything, it affirms it. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Saturday, 09 October, 2004 07.20To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or DemocratJeff Powers wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Jeff Powers
It confirms Torah to me! Explain Acts 15:21 and then tell me how this passage rejects Torah. Jeff - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Jeff Powers

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Jeff Powers wrote: It confirms Torah to me! Explain Acts 15:21 and then tell me how this passage rejects Torah. Jeff == My friend, you started too late and finished too early. This subject is not dealt with in only one verse. In

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Jeff Powers
And you haven't killed any Jews in months!!! - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 15:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Jeff Powers wrote: It confirms Torah to me

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Jeff Powers
Jeff in red: - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 15:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Jeff Powers wrote: It confirms Torah to me! Explain Acts 15:21 and then tell

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Jeff Powers wrote: And you haven't killed any Jews in months!!! I have a cofession to make. I have never killed a single Jew. If that isn't bad enough, I actually had two Jewish friends in Hialeah years ago. Neither of them

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Slade Henson
[Terry's friend]was...[]interested in the things of God...but not interested in becoming a Christian. Slade says: Sadly, you don't have a prayer to help this man come to understand the Messiahship of Yeshua. He MUST (out of love for God) reject any Messiah who disbands with Torah... EVEN

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/9/2004 5:43:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff Powers wrote: And you haven't killed any Jews in months!!! I have a cofession to make. I have never killed a single Jew. Just married folks??? JD

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-09 Thread Slade Henson
JD... You got me on that one. I usually "pride" myself on getting the puns [AKA "duds"] in, but that opportunity slipped right by me. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, 09 October,

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-08 Thread Jeff Powers
What about the Bet Dein (Jerusalem council) of Acts 15? Jeff Absolutely! "Clergy" has become a word to describe a hierarchy that never was intended and did not exist in the early church or in God's plan. A living organism (Church) has become a giant organization , big

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-05 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat In a message dated 10/1/2004 3:54:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy in red: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:18 PMTo

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lance writes: 'Godliest'?So then, do we vote for Pat Robertson or for Benny Hinn? I believe that the existing candidates have excluded themselves by the standards put forward by Judith and Linda. Judyt: Pat Robertson and Benny Himm? Are they running for office in this country? Back

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/1/2004 3:54:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy in red: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-29 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/28/2004 11:20:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/28/2004 2:43:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was on 11 Sep 2001

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-29 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/29/2004 5:23:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! "Clergy" has become a word to describe a hierarchy that never was intended and did not exist in the early church or in God's plan. A living organism (Church) has become a giant organization , big

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-29 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/29/2004 5:23:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely! "Clergy" has become a word to describe a hierarchy that never was intended and did not exist in the early church or in God's plan. A living organism (Church) has

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-29 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/29/2004 10:50:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I knew. No offense taken. Just send half as much money. Terry I'll start savin up John

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Jeff Powers
What was the name of this forum? OH, I remember, TRUTH-TALK!! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 22:49 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat What a bunch of NEGATIVE thinkers

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat What a bunch of NEGATIVE thinkers. If I didnt know better, Id think you were Democrats. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:08 PMTo: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Slade Henson
]Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Izzy, your posts in the last few days have included a lot of bold and capital letters. Are you aware that they make it look as if you are yelling? Are you as angry as your posts make you look? The same President Bush has

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/28/2004 2:43:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was on 11 Sep 2001 when I discovered a terrible mistake. Bush encouraged people to pray at their Church, Synagogue, and Mosque. When he said that, my heart sank. He didn't learn the lesson. When Bush

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/28/2004 2:09:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What was the name of this forum? OH, I remember, TRUTH-TALK!! Sometimes, Jeffery, you cut to the chase. Good one. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/27/2004 7:56:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You on TT are all (except Michael and Judy) such a bunch of negative losers. I think Ill take a vacation from you for a while as you are sincerely getting on my last nerve. I have better things to do than

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/27/2004 3:35:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John, The conference wraps up tonight. I will give a report on it later this week. I did spend some good time with Baxter including dinner Friday night. Jonathan Does he ever come out to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: I think that's nice. Don't force anyone to accept Christ. Just the mention of Jesus' name would probably force a bunch of them to be saved against their will. We can't have people in Heaven who don't want to be there, can we, even if they are

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/28/2004 11:20:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/28/2004 2:43:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was on 11 Sep 2001 when I discovered a terrible mistake. Bush encouraged people to pray

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Was it slade -- whoever posted about Jesus not being allowed at the RNC in song; if that is true (and time will tell), I am out of here. I certainly do not believe voting is a Christian function so it wll be easy to quit politics altogether. That post from slade (?) was very upsetting to

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
, 2004 8:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Jonathan, since your are up, did you get in on any of the time with Baxter Kruger? John --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread Jeff Powers
I'm breaking a self-imposed silence regarding this thread. I think Terry is the only one making any sense of this can of worms! Politicians, both believers and non-believers are little more than puppets of special interest groups. Not since before the American Civil War has politics and

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread Slade Henson
4 20.28To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat I'm breaking a self-imposed silence regarding this thread. I think Terry is the only one making any sense of this can of worms! Politicians, both believers and non-believers are little more than puppets

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
of in Islamic thought? Do you agree with President Bush that Allah is God? Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/27/2004 4:40:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently you dont quite get it yet, John. What I think was said that AT A POLITICAL RALLY the Republicans did not allow songs ABOUT JESUS. This is NOT a free-speech issue. (duh!) This is an issue of what is

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think that's nice. Don't force anyone to accept Christ. Just the mention of Jesus' name would probably force a bunch of them to be saved against their will. We can't have people in Heaven who don't want to be there, can we, even if they are Republicans. You and W just keep on with what

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
What a bunch of NEGATIVE thinkers. If I didnt know better, Id think you were Democrats. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Izzy, your posts in the last few days have included a lot of bold and capital letters. Are you aware that they make it look as if you are yelling? Are you as angry as your posts make you look? The same President Bush has repeatedly

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
the election. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat In a message dated 9/27/2004 4:40:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-27 Thread ttxpress
thisisyour reason for participating? On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:56:07 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have better things to do than trying to instill some sense into you.

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Hm againWould you consider Jesus to have been cultish, if that is the right term? Or perhaps a better question, would he have been considered to have been the founder (or focal point) of a cult? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/25/2004 12:54:01 AM Pacific

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/25/2004 11:14:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Hm againWould you consider Jesus to have been cultish, if that is the right term? Or perhaps a better question, would he have been considered to have been the founder (or focal point) of

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: Hm againWould you consider Jesus to have been cultish, if that is the right term? Or perhaps a better question, would he have been considered to have been the founder (or focal point) of a cult? Cult leader is exactly how He was viewed by the chief

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
DAVEH: Hm.Can Jesus be classified as either a liberal or conservative? By political definition, Jesus was a liberal (I hate to admit this). And most conservativesn our day would have defended the status quo of the 1st century. John In all seriousness, I think the question

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: In all seriousness, I think the question is not Can Jesus be classified as either a liberal or conservative? The question is, Which of those two philosophies today most reflects Jesus? You know what I think of that. Izzy Good thinking Iz. Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: How do you think the prevailing establishment would have perceived him, John? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/25/2004 11:14:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Hm againWould you consider Jesus to have been cultish, if that is

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Slade Henson
I think Jesus was a liberal... but He was a religious liberal. He was not a political liberal. After all, He seemed to suggest a more passive stance against Rome than the Zealots. Yeshua would not have been cultic. He was a House Hillel Pharisee who spoke against the conservative

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Jeff Powers
Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 16:02 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat I think Jesus was a liberal... but He was a religious liberal. He was not a political liberal. After all, He seemed to suggest a more passive stance

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/26/2004 7:26:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Hm.Can Jesus be classified as either a liberal or conservative? By political definition, Jesus was a liberal (I hate to admit this). And most "conservatives"n our day would have defended

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy in red below. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat In a message dated 9/26/2004 7:26:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-25 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Hm.Can Jesus be classified as either a liberal or conservative? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FW: Republican or Democrat wwjd? On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:06:04 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Republican or Democrat ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/25/2004 12:54:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Hm.Can Jesus be classified as either a liberal or conservative? By political definition, Jesus was a liberal (I hate to admit this). And most "conservatives"n our day would have defended

[TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: FW: Republican or Democrat Subject: Republican or Democrat A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread ttxpress
Title: FW: Republican or Democrat wwjd? On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:06:04 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Republican or Democrat ||

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread Hughes Jonathan
Friday, September 24, 2004 4:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Subject: Republican or Democrat A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they cameto a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person hisbusiness card and told

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
to do.  Enjoy yourself.  Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hughes Jonathan Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Hi Izzy, Nice joke. Jokes and stories are nice when one wants

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread ttxpress
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat wwjd? On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:06:04 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Title: FW: Republican or Democrat Jonathan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat who would crucify him

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat Jonathan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:14 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat who would crucify

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/24/2004 1:24:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An estimated 850 000 people are homeless in the United States on any given night, according to advocates for the homeless. These people are provided for -- at least here in Fresno. This number indicates

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/24/2004 2:59:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jonathan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-09-24 Thread Terry Clifton
Hughes Jonathan wrote: FW: Republican or Democrat Hi Izzy, Nice joke. Jokes and stories are nice when one wants to avoid facts. The facts: More people are below the poverty line since Bush took office than before. More poverty, more homeless. This is what conservative