Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-29 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Thank you for sharing your perspective, John. I have a question about #2. Do you believe the Bible contains all God wants us to know? I believe that the biblical record, especially the NT scriptures, records the Divine Exchange between God and

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread Knpraise
DAVEH:  Thank you for sharing your perspective, John.     I have a question about #2.  Do you believe the Bible contains all God wants us to know? I believe that the biblical record, especially the NT scriptures, records the Divine Exchange between God and the First Church. If He told those

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread Knpraise
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/27/2004 5:35:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, Youll have to write your own dictionary, but if thats your definition, I can agree. I think youre a blessing, Izzy I am thinking

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/27/2004 5:49:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ill buy a copy. Perhaps even submit a blurb for the dust jacket J You are scaring me a little. I bought the entire 14 volume set of Barths Church Dogmatics last week. (Through Lance) I give myself a

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/27/2004 3:51:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where do we lookin Fiction or in Humor? J Izzy The Classics

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
Correction: (Im not awake)Freud vs Lewis. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0033469

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/28/2004 2:52:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Correction: (Im not awake)Freud vs Lewis. I am not a Freudist. My counseling is pastoral in nature and biblical in substance. It has its limitations. But so does the therapy in the health care industry. I

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/28/2004 2:52:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Correction: (Im not awake)Freud vs Lewis. I am not a Freudist. My counseling is pastoral in nature and biblical

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/26/2004 8:18:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, no! Then I must be one of them fundamentalist liberals, too!!! (Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!!!) Oh, wait, I think perhaps we might differ on a point or two, if you can explain to me what you mean

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, Youll have to write your own dictionary, but if thats your definition, I can agree. I think youre a blessing, Izzy --How do you define fundamentalist liberal? I asked if that isnt an oxymoron but got no response. Thanks, Fundamentalist -- requiring book, chapter and

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/27/2004 5:35:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, Youll have to write your own dictionary, but if thats your definition, I can agree. I think youre a blessing, Izzy I am thinking of writing a systematic theology. Imagine, me on the same shelf

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Where do we lookin Fiction or in Humor? J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/27/2004 5:35:38

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/27/2004 5:35:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, Youll have to write your own dictionary, but if thats your definition, I can agree. I think youre a blessing, Izzy I am

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-26 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/25/2004 9:54:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/24/2004 11:48:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ummm, catnitp he is! Yes, catnip. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 ShieldsFamily wrote: ShieldsFamily

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Smithson wrote: I do not believe in original sin, the efficacy of litergical activity, denomiantionalism (also called sectarism), faith only, salvation by works, Trinity as compared to a triune Godhead, holiness perfectionism, the rule of Law as opposed to faith, love and the indwelling

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: John..would you mind elaborating a bit more on how vs 12-16 help this Mongolian who dies without hearing the gospel, please? DaveH, when you read that

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
Judy Taylor wrote: You'd be as wellsticking with the LDS as to embrace this confusion DaveH. DAVEH: I'm not sure what confusion to which you are referring, JudyT. If you are speaking of John's reply to me, it sure sounds better than much of what I've heard previously from

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/23/2004 9:26:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I have been reading Kruger and am not, so far, impressed. But I have decided to withhold judgement until I am finished. However I have a couple of questions for you. (So I can make Lances day so

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 'Bishop'John:This new and elevated status becomes you. Don't abuse the newfound power with the ladies. People are looking to you (Bishop John) so weigh your words carefully. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/24/2004 11:48:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: John..would you mind elaborating a bit more on how vs 12-16 help this Mongolian

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/25/2004 12:16:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: You'd be as well sticking with the LDS as to embrace this confusion DaveH. DAVEH: I'm not sure what confusion to which you are referring, JudyT. If you are speaking of John's reply to

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Well, come to think of itthats possible DaveH! Funny you would think of it. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy replies in red below: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/23/2004 9:26:33 AM Pacific

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
I am not a Pretestant. Protestantism is especially the high church (Preby, Espisco, Methodi, and the like -- the robed and liturgical church. ) As far as I know, I am the only one who believes this way ;-) John, Ive always assumed that if you arent Catholic you are stuck with the moniker

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Ahh shucks, John.A little Mormon Class might be good for you, even though most folks would consider it to be low class. 8-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/25/2004 12:16:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote:

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Knpraise
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/23/2004 9:26:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I have been reading Kruger and am not, so far, impressed. But I have decided to withhold judgement until I am finished. However I

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: Well, come to think of itthats possible DaveH! Funny you would think of it. J Izzy DAVEH: I've learned to read your mind, Izzy... 8-) ShieldsFamily wrote: Satan loves to divide and conquer. Izzy DAVEH: Are you alluding to me,

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 ShieldsFamily wrote: Well, come to think of itthats possible DaveH! Funny you

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ok, John; now I will be green/bold. Izzy I have been reading Kruger and am not, so far, impressed. But I have decided to withhold judgement until I am finished. However I have a couple of questions for you. (So I can make Lances day so that he can ridicule my ignorance.) (1) What do

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/24/2004 11:48:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: John..would you

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: ShieldsFamily wrote: Well, come to think of itthats possible DaveH! Funny you would think of it. J Izzy DAVEH: I've learned to read your mind, Izzy... 8-) Then you are way ahead of my husband, DaveH! J Izzy DAVEH:

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: John..would you mind elaborating a bit more on how vs 12-16 help this Mongolian who dies without hearing the gospel, please? DaveH, when you read that passage (Ro 2:12-16), doesn't v v15-16

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message dated 8/22/2004 9:30:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: John..would you mind elaborating a bit more on how vs 12-16 help this Mongolian who dies without hearing the gospel, please?DaveH, when you read

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 In a message

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread Judy Taylor
You'd be as wellsticking with the LDS as to embrace this confusion DaveH. Actually we don't have to have all the answers. The secret things belong to the Lord but what has been revealed is for us and for our children. So unless God has put outer Mongolia on your heart then the Mongolians

RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Satan loves to divide and conquer. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 'Bishop'John:This new and elevated status

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16

2004-08-23 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:Are you quoting the 'church lady'?? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 23, 2004 13:55 Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16 Satan loves to divide and conquer. Izzy From