Thanks for the courtesy of a responseCharles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, Blaine this is a banned thread...please move on.From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator comment **Date:
Dave Hansen said that he was on TT in order to understand the
beliefs/practices of protestants. I've been on TT for a 'while'. Dave's been on
for a 'while'.
DAVE:WOULD YOU CONSIDER OFFERING FOR US A SUMMARY OF THE
'BELIEFS/PRACTICES' OF THOSE YOU'VE BEEN READING?
BLAINE:IT WOULD BE
Kevin, Blain-while I am not the Moderator I would like to remind you guys that according to the Holy Spirit we are suppose to be subject to authority-Here Perry is that authority.
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 10:53:49 PM
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the conclusion of this debate. The light is now giving to ALL men and Gods laws are written in the hearts of ALL men therefore they will have no excuse for rejection of Christ nor breaking the Law-That is knowledge of God but to have
Amen.
Terry
Dean Moore wrote:
Kevin, Blain-while I am not
the Moderator I would like to remind you guys that according to the
Holy Spirit we are suppose to be subject to authority-Here Perry is
that authority.
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From:
Kevin Deegan
Hi Dean:
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the conclusion of
this debate.
The light is now giving to ALL men and Gods laws are written in the hearts
of ALL men
therefore they will have no excuse for rejection of Christ nor breaking the
Law-
I don't think I
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From: Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 9:30:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge another man's servant? To his own master he stands or
Since ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God
These should put to rest whether or not unregenerates
have God's Law written on their hearts (in them)
and whetherit is possible for them to do
"by nature" the things that are written in God's Law as per
Rom 2:14,15
Paul writes tothe
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From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 9:19:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
Hi Dean:
cd: Hi Sis:-)
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the
Fresh Baked
Bread*Yes, he humbled you by letting you go
hungry and then feeding youwith manna, a food previously unknown to you and
your ancestors. Hedid it to teach you that people need more than bread for
their life;real life comes by feeding on every word of the LORD.
Wonderful! Thanks for this.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 17, 2005 12:57
Subject: [TruthTalk] FYI "Fresh Baked
Bread" (by Ken Mathews)
Fresh Baked
Bread*Yes, he humbled you by letting
Good question. I would be interested to see your answers, as well.
jd
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Dave Hansen said that he was on TT in order to understand the beliefs/practices of protestants. I've been on TT for a 'while'. Dave's
I like it too ... Agreement!!! ... It must be
Christmas :-) judyt
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:05:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wonderful! Thanks for this.
Fresh Baked Bread*Yes, he
humbled you by letting you go hungry and then feeding youwith manna,
Dean Moore wrote:
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From:
Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/16/2005 9:30:38 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge
another man's
Well, Dean, we are in full agreement on this one.
jd
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Kevin, Blain-while I am not the Moderator I would like to remind you guys that according to the Holy Spirit we are suppose to be subject to authority-Here
Dean, the words of Romans 14 eliminates all holy days. To escape this conclusion, one must add some sort of contextual consideration.Such is perfectedly permissible ... the larger context of a passage is always an important consideration. But, your conclusions regarding the observance of the
cd: Thank you Judy.
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From: Judy Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 1:00:22 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] FYI "Fresh Baked Bread" (by Ken Mathews)
Fresh Baked Bread*Yes, he humbled you by letting you go hungry and then feeding
here you prove you
are given to radically manipulatingAuthority in more ways than one; here
you clearlyenforceyour own dualisticdouble standard
mouthingtruthgiven to biblical saintsas platitudes
fromreligious republicanism which equatesthe reign ofChrist to
enforcing therule of elitist
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From: Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 1:19:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Dean Moore wrote:
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From: Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 9:30:38 PM
Dean Moore wrote:
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From:
Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/17/2005 1:19:38 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Dean Moore wrote:
Dualistic nothing and manipulating nothing Gary; I
quoted scripture as written in the KJV Bible
If you have a dispute about it - it is not with
me. If you can not receive it - this is your problem not
mine.. Not everyone is
able to receive sound doctrine and Ephesians 4:17-20 as is - is
you manipulate it
too, as clearly proven
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I quote..scripture as written in the KJV
Bible
Where and how? Evidence please?
Your ongoing consistent accusations are a bit old Gary;
you need to give a foundation for these
accusations. So show me how this scripture is
manipulated and evidence that this is clearly proven.
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:38:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, DaveH kicked himself off.
The Moderator told him that it was his last
warning - that's all... because they kept ignoring him and went on with a
thread
he told them to take offline. Who told you
he was kicked off?? judyt
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:10:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IFO have thought of DaveH as one of the more discrimitating contributors to
TT.Should he be invited back with an accompanying apology and full
complicity?
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December
Blainerb: A true angel of light is
just that--an angel of light.Not all angels of light are Satan
masquerading as such. Most are real. Moroni was real, but when Satan
appeared on the banks of the Susquehanna River masquerading as an angel of
light, he was detected by Michael, the archangel
Blainerb: Yeah, Kevin, I
repeat Dave's question--will Jesus be wearing a chain around his neck with a
cross dangling on it when he comes? I always understood he would be
dressed in red, symbol of the blood he spilt in the Garden of
Gethsemene.
And, if he is not wearing his cross,
what
cd: You do realize that this is the Bible I am quoting that you
are disagreeing with?
Jd: the comments below are or should be of some value. It is safe to say, however, that Terry Cliffton is not disagreeing with scripture - only your understanding of scripture. I personally believe that Paul
Your view that Mattt 7:11 is talking about the reception of the baptism of the Holy spirit is the most recent case in point.
jd
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Where and how? Evidence please?
Your ongoing consistent accusations are a bit old
He is certainly not nearly as disruptive as at least two others on this forum. I jwill tnot refer kto them by dname but they probably know who they are?
jd
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IFO have thought of DaveH as one of the more
In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:46 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So a Satanist is on vacation in Utah
he decides to take a tour of the temple.
What do you think his thoughts would be when he sees his symbol for his
god on your buildings?
Blainerb:
Blainerb: To "be perfect," it seems one would first have to become
perfect--which may take more time for some than others.I do OK in
following the admonitions of Jesus Christ, and I believe I do better each
day--but I am after all a son of Adam and Eve, from whom I inherited
imperfections.
We The People. Of The United States
This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a
long, long time. The
following has been attributed to State
Representative Mitchell Aye from
GA. This guy should run for President one day...
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 1:41:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Dean, the words of Romans 14 eliminates all holy days. To escape this conclusion, one must add some sort of contextual
Oh, yeah, now I remember writing that. I should have just said I was
holding my breath, huh? :)
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:54:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can you print the entire context, please?
Blainerb
From: [EMAIL
In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
discerning the difference . . .
cd: And the sad part is you actually believe a man who said there were 6
ft quaker like people living on the moon-as a prophet of God-very sad
indeed.
A good reason, but there had to be a more profound reason, huh?
In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:46 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about to fulfill prophecy? Is that a good reason?
Blainer wrote
I am not sure why dying
Christ's physical ministry was to the Jew, only. He lived under the law and was the fulfillment of that law. In Him is the end of the law.
As to Paul, it is Paul who writes against holy days. Why did he continue to keep them (and I believe he kept ALL of them) : he became all things to all men
Then what do youthink Gethsemane was all about? He shed blood
then, as well as on the cross, and was in such an agony as to almost
die. Dying was not the only sacrifice he made. He
suffered for sin in Gethsemane,he died on Calvary, in order to overcome
death, and made it possible for us
BLOOD is the key word, I think--which he shed
in large quantitiesin Gethsemane--apparently more than he actually shed on
Calvary. When he returns he will be wearing red--right? This is a
symbol of his blood drenching his entire body, which it did not do on the
cross. In fact, other than
think with us about 'blood
shed', Bro--the connotation of 'blood shed' makes it the key, not merely
'blood'--eh?
'blood shed', as you've
already realized,accurately accounts for the NTcrucifixion violence,
the literary emphasis of the Gospel accounts of 'the
Cross'
English
Have no idea or frame of reference as to what you are
talking about
Best drift back off into Dylan land. Sorry to
have disturbed you, if briefly
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:20:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
prop up your
bi-focals, M'am--it's all there--recently, too
and,
Read what I said again JD and stop putting words in my
mouth
I was not interpreting Matt 7:11 to mean this; I merely
said that ppl in churches that believe in the spiritual
gifts use this verse to encourage people to seek the
baptism in the Holy Spirit. This is not my view, it is
theirs...
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 4:52:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
He is certainly not nearly as disruptive as at least two others on this forum. I jwill tnot refer kto them by dname but they
Terry
cd: You do realize that this is the Bible I am quoting that you are disagreeing with?
I realize that the commandments were for the children of Israel. I was never under the law and am not under the law now. I have no obligation to keep the Sabbath. I am free from the law.
Terry
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 5:04:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] SO THEN it is safe to assume that NO MORMON RESPONSE TO THE "...
Blainerb: To "be perfect," it seems one would first have to become perfect--which may take more time
If Christ had not been nailed to the cross, His death would have meant
nothing. Prophecy said He had to be lifted up.
Terry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then what do youthink Gethsemane was all about? He shed blood
then, as well as on the cross, and was in such an agony as
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:22:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dylan land..where 'the whip that's keeping you in line
doesn't make him jump,Say he's hard-of-hearin', say that he's a chump,
he's out of step with reality
as you try
to test his nerve because he doesn't
Dean Moore wrote:
As for the Commandments being only for the Jews
you are wrong-dead wrong. The ceremonial law (ie. the Holy Feast
days),the Priestly law ,and the dietary law are non- binding to
Christians but this does not include the commandments.Terry you need to
learn
BLOOD is the key word, I think--which he shed in large quantitiesin Gethsemane--apparently more than he actually shed on Calvary
Sweat AS IF drops of blood.Isn't this thewording of the biblical text? I don't know that there was any blood in Gethsemaneexcept by thehand ofPeter. But, if there was
You are not being honest, here. This is the specific exchange:
You are reaching, here. What is the difference to Judy between good works and "normal christianity." Is the giving of good gifts something we do (ala Matt 7:11). jd
Matt 7:11 is a scripture that is used to encourage people to seek
Have you dealt with the puzzle correctly? I want to say "yes" except that I do not understand "c c". Perhaps you missed the point.
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moved to hard copy and saved to my journal.
Excellent stuff.
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:22:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dylan land..where 'the whip that's keeping you in line doesn't make him jump,Say
Dean, I would love to see you try to establish this from scripture:
As for the Commandments being only for the Jews you are wrong-dead wrong. The ceremonial law (ie. the Holy Feast days),the Priestly law ,and the dietary law are non- binding to Christians but this does not include the
I see it as a statement rather than an
argument. In churches I have been in Matt 7:11 is used this
way.
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:42:54 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are not being honest, here. This is the specific
exchange:
You are reaching, here.
What is the difference
Really JD??
So is your journal full of gibberish or is this
the exception?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:50:16 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
moved to hard copy and saved to my journal.
Excellent stuff.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:22:31
Blaine, why do you cintinue to comment on a thread that has been banned? No
more posts on this topic, please.
Perry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator comment **
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:12:50
Blaine, I honestly believe you are baiting Christians on TT, or else you
truly have not read the Bible.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] sweat
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:36:58 EST
BLOOD is the key word, I
CPL,what's
your perspective on (just) this question?
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:48:32 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:..you are baiting Christians on TT..elseyoutruly have
not read the [KJV?].||
Take a pill, Judy. Near as I can figure, you either don't like Dylan or you can't sing. My journal is acompilation of those things spoken or written that effected me, emotionally. They are statements that struck me as powerful. I have found that when I need a "pick me up," I can sit down and read
I wrote a post outlining several differences between Mormonism and Christianity - today. Did that post? it didn't come to me and comcast does not save what was written.
Could someone please send it back to me. Thanks
jd
CPL, Are [Bible]
readers whobelieve that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS
for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a scripture that is used to
..do Bible readers
'camp' around theological error in your neck of the woods?
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CPL, Are [Bible]
readers whobelieve that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS
for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets'
..while they (we
know they:) ain't Protestants, are they
Christians?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:11:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..do Bible
readers 'camp' around theological error in your neck of the
woods?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..if so, (we know
they ain't classic Protestants, but :)are they
Christians?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:11:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..do Bible
readers 'camp' around theological error in your neck of the
woods?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:16:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..while they (we
know they:) ain't Protestants, are they
Christians?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:11:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..do Bible
readers 'camp' around theological error in your neck of the
..mercy me (the
same question again,Bro--but did you ever wonder
how much
error actually qualifies Bible readers as trulyChristian?
:)
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..while they
..jt says they go
to church
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CPL, Are
[Bible] readers whobelieve that JC taught that encouraging the
baptism of the HS for the already converted'sums up the Law and
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