Re: [TruthTalk] Once saved, always saved?

2002-12-22 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/22/2002 7:43:17 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nevertheless, he believed it was wrong to teach Gentiles to become Torah observant. Furthermore, he believed that GENTILES who felt compelled to become circumcised and become JEWS were actually departing

Re: [TruthTalk] Hitler and Marlin

2002-12-20 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/20/2002 8:33:50 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being a Judaizer means Christ has no effect on a person. Gal. 5:4. Right again Dr Glenn! Webster says it is to adopt the customs, views, or beliefs of a Jew so that lets out Christ! Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] I am still waiting

2002-12-19 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:31:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most "Christians" follow their own ideas. I'm sorry but I think you are making a blanket statement. You may have had experiences with Christians that cause you to come to this conclusion but I find

Re: [TruthTalk] about Christmas

2002-12-19 Thread CHamm56114
Interesting information The Christmas Tree The Christmas Tree originated in Germany in the 16th century. It was common for the Germanic people to decorate fir trees, both inside and out, with roses, apples, and colored paper. It is believed that Martin Luther, the Protestant reformer, was the

[TruthTalk] The Christmas message

2002-12-19 Thread CHamm56114
Thought this was a great quote - Laura "The Christmas message is that there is hope for a ruined humanity - hope of pardon, hope of peace with God, hope of glory - because at the Father's will Jesus Christ became poor, and was born in a stable so that thirty years later He might hang on a

Re: [TruthTalk] leading people to Christ

2002-12-19 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/19/2002 11:08:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Jesus didn't sell poinsettas then they have to be a sin. LOL Marlin, Does your nursery sell poinsettas? I am interested because I told the story of them in school Tuesday and then today read a

Re: [TruthTalk] Hitler and DaveH (let's see if he answers this one)

2002-12-19 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/19/2002 11:10:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Pharisees then added in order to protect this commandment from the Saducees, "Thou shalt not sell poinsettias between the 4th Thursday in November and December 31 unless the person selling the

Re: [TruthTalk] I am still waiting

2002-12-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:01:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most "Christians" follow their own ideas. 2 questions 1. What do you mean by the above? 2. Why are you playing games? Can you just not answer the question? There have been so many posts that I can't

Re: [TruthTalk] leading people to faith in Christ

2002-12-16 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/15/2002 11:48:59 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JOB 14:4 Who can bring a clean [thing] out of an unclean? not one. If you are relating this passage to the celebration of Christmas and if you REALLY believe that Christmas is evil, then I sincerely hope

Re: [TruthTalk] Garner Ted's Armstrongs cult church and Old Testament law kee...

2002-12-15 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/15/2002 4:40:52 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a thought experiment. Between protestantism and LDS, which is the most assured way to receive salvation? Protantism. It is the only LOGICAL way to go. If you are a protestant and LDS are right,

Re: [TruthTalk] Garner Ted's Armstrongs cult church and Old Testament law kee...

2002-12-15 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/15/2002 6:57:53 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TRUE Christians will use the occasion for leading people to faith in Christ. Christians will use the occasion to feed, cloth, and give a toy to orphans. I thank the Lord for Christmas. It is one of the

Re: [TruthTalk] WHEN CHRISTMAS BECOMES ILLEGAL

2002-12-14 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/14/2002 8:10:23 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to practice the Catholic holiday, Christmas, you are not prohibited from doing so in this country Since when is Christmas a Catholic holiday? Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-14 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/14/2002 8:19:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the following scripture mean anything to you in regard to supporting orphans in India at Christmas? MAT 6:2 {Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-12 Thread CHamm56114
This is the whole problem We base our beliefs on the Word of God - you base your beliefs on the vision of a Sinful man! Laura DAVEH: I am surprised that you don't still understand my perspective either, Glenn. It seems there are a few TTers who think that LDS theology is BASED on specific

Re: [TruthTalk] What do you believe, Dave

2002-12-12 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/12/2002 2:09:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe that is the problem - a prophet has to pass the test to be considered valid. Far too much of JS prophecys don't pass that test! Laura Joseph Smith is not the Lord. DAVEH: I never said he was. He was

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2002-12-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/11/2002 1:27:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, your answer indicates that you do not believe in the Trinity. You believe in Sabellianism. Didn't mean to give off that impression. I definately believe in the Trinity. Yes, I believe in 3 in 1 but

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2002-12-10 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/10/2002 3:08:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:59:06 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure Mormons believe in Polytheism? Blainer) LDS believe and teach the First Article of Faith: " We believe in God, the Eternal

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2002-12-10 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/11/2002 12:08:05 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.irr.org/mit/changod.html Fairly self explanatory. Definately quite a difference between Joseph Smith's version and the Word of God. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-09 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/9/2002 8:57:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Fortunately, Laura and I have been able to out-think them all.) Izzy AMEN Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] The Blood of Christ

2002-12-08 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/8/2002 8:36:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, It does not matter. Since we are assured that the precious blood of our Lord and Savior has saved us, then the nature of His blood is irrelevant. Perry I agree with you - just was interested in

Re: [TruthTalk] Prasie the Lord for Scrooge

2002-12-07 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/7/2002 6:00:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The church I am currently attending uses Christmas to win hundreds of people to Christ every year. They begin practicing in August for the musical "Scrooge". As you know, it is not a religious drama. My

Re: [TruthTalk] Julie Scott

2002-12-07 Thread CHamm56114
PREJulie Scott may be Marlin's wife! She posted under his email address -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 7:6

2002-12-07 Thread CHamm56114
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. I like this version where it uses bound instead of held. NASB Laura

[TruthTalk] Blood of Christ

2002-12-07 Thread CHamm56114
PREI heard some people talking today about a group of preachers who are about to split because of the issue of the blood of Christ. They are arguing about whether the blood shed on the cross was divine blood or human blood. I am interested in what you all think. Laura -- Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-06 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/6/2002 9:07:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So now I'm assuming you think the rooms of heaven are not different levels of happiness, but rather separations that allow privacy or seclusion??? If not, then why the rooms? What is their purpose? --

Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-06 Thread CHamm56114
PREWelcome to the group, PerryLaura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and

Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards

2002-12-06 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/6/2002 3:52:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura is looking for a rich man to marry. If you can help us out, it would be greatly appreciated. LOL Here's the TRUTH Glenn thinks I need a man. We all know that he has his own opinions! Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Here is how Laura is going to spend her Sabbath. OH MY.

2002-12-06 Thread CHamm56114
PREWhat Glenn hasn't told you is that the boss is out of the office for a few days and he is bored. Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-05 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 12/5/2002 12:19:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No I don't think it referrs to religions. Laura DAVEH: So Laura, what do the Protestants think it means? I don't question what Jesus said. He said he was going to prepare a mansion for us/me and I

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-12-04 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/26/2002 9:40:38 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: How do Protestants view Jesus' comment that in heaven there are many mansions? Do they think that refers to different religions? and Jesus is the only way to get there. Laura No I don't think it

[TruthTalk] Off topic maybe but cute

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
Important Recall Notice The Maker of all human beings is recalling all units manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to the serious defect in the primary and central component of the heart. This is due to a malfunction in the original prototype units code named Adam and Eve,

Re: [TruthTalk] If Christmas is a sin, then Thanksgiving is a sin.

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 9:13:24 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IT IS A SIN TO BE THANKFUL ON THE 4TH THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER!! What happened to "In everything give thanks?" Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:43:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Almost all Baptist believe in eternal security. By that I mean their pastors believe in eternal security. There is one group of Baptists known as the Free Will Baptists. Laura is one of them. They do not

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus didn't cut turkey

2002-11-25 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:55:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus didn't cut turkey he broke bread. Cutting turkey is adding to the Bible and is therefore a sin. :-) You don't cut turkey You carve it! LOL Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 7:34:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, Whenever you are confused about whose voice to listen to, keep in mind to pay attention to the message-bearer. I'm not confused Who is walking in love? Who shows genuine humility? Certainly not

Re: [TruthTalk] Hello

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 7:44:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not gotten upset with Marlin. Having pastored for upteen years I can spot people like him in a second. I think it is a spiritual gift of discernment which has improved with the years. Even if I

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 9:10:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I started obeying, quietly and discreetly, on my own. Then I began to wonder if there were any other Christians who were led the same way, and I found a Messianic fellowship full of sweet, loving Jews and

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 8:38:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, What did the Israelites do? Heaven forbid that the Lord would ask us to inconvenience ourselves! J Actually, I would go to the zoo with my family. When I have to choose between being with family and

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 7:12:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have never been one to believe “Once saved, always saved.” We agree for once! LAura

Re: [TruthTalk] Message-bearers

2002-11-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/24/2002 11:08:14 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the Lord has a plan for you, and if you wish to not have to work 5 days a week, I am sure He can provide a way for you. Our families and churches are sinning if they do not provide for their widows.

Re: [TruthTalk]Coffman's Commentary of the New Testament

2002-11-20 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/19/2002 10:37:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, we do not have a Xmass tree. The Adventists here know that I do not partake in this dishonest celebration Can you explain why it is dishonest? Laura

Re: [TruthTalk]Coffman's Commentary of the New Testament

2002-11-19 Thread CHamm56114
I heard tonight that 7th Day Adventists celebrate Christmas but have no tree. Marlin, Do you have a Christmas tree? Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?

2002-11-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/18/2002 8:21:49 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura wrote: I choose to hold Sunday as my Sabbath. But which of the four views do you identify with? Are you Sunday-Sabbath or a Lord's Day adherent?

Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?

2002-11-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/18/2002 8:21:49 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura wrote: I choose to hold Sunday as my Sabbath. But which of the four views do you identify with? Are you Sunday-Sabbath or a Lord's Day adherent? I think I just sent a blank message Sorry about

Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?

2002-11-17 Thread CHamm56114
What Is the Christian Sabbath? Here is an interesting link

Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?

2002-11-17 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/17/2002 9:41:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, Laura, which of the four views mentioned do you hold? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17,

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-16 Thread CHamm56114
OK Marlin Let me know if I am correct. If in my heart, I have no problem with worshipping on Sunday then it is OK. But in your case, you feel it is wrong to worship on Sunday so if you don't worship on Sat then you are wrong. BTW How were your services today? Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-16 Thread CHamm56114
This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. If they let the World's Fair close on Sunday for religious reasons then they had to close it on Saturday also. If people (and the majority do) worked on Monday through Friday, then when could they attend. Also by allowing it to remain open, how

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-16 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/16/2002 4:32:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Laura, We have no disagreement in that we may worship the Lord on the first day, the second day, and so on. I worship God daily. This is not keeping the Sabbath. OK So I am using Sabbath and

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-16 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/16/2002 9:47:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Laura, Forget about me. I am nothing. Would it bother you if God has a problem with it? Not if I was sure it was God and not some man's opinion. But you have not answered my question. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-16 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/16/2002 7:44:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So again I say, you should not criticize and insult Believers who differ with you on this Did I insult anyone? Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?

2002-11-15 Thread CHamm56114
Yes I read the article. I found it to be quite slanted. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] salvation?

2002-11-13 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/13/2002 7:53:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not believe the cross is a dividing wall between the OT and NT. They are both the Bible of one and the same God. I didn't say it was a dividing wall. I like to think of it as a bridge that we can

Re: [TruthTalk] salvation?

2002-11-13 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/13/2002 8:05:32 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, If it is a bridge, then there is no change from obeying God’s commandments in the OT and NT. If we stop obeying, then it is a wall. Izzy I am not going to argue this point. A wall divides, agreed.

Re: [TruthTalk] MADELENN 2 YEARS OLD.LNK

2002-11-12 Thread CHamm56114
OK I have to tell you all that I have seen the pics of Madelenn and also have seen her in person. Yup She looks like her Granddaddy I can't vouch for the personality though! Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Talent

2002-11-12 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/12/2002 7:30:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don’t know anything at all about Laura’s talents. L Laura doesn't have any LOL

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
Marlin, If you are against Christmas that is fine with me but I still want to know if you benefit financially from the sale of items from your business during the Christmas season. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/11/2002 9:37:13 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura wrote: I don't know anyone who is a Christian who can get by without worshipping on a regular basis with other believers and still maintain their walk with God. No denomination is perfect, no church is

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/11/2002 12:47:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, Laura. How about this. You go to a Messianic assembly next Saturday and meet with them regularly. Their music may not be your favorite, and their format of worship might not be what you want, and their

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/11/2002 2:56:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that you were not finding fault with Saturday worship. I'm just wondering how willing you are to follow your own advise! I'd go to a Messianic service - They have awesome music and serve the same

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
Then he should worship somewhere on Sunday or start a group on Saturday. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/11/2002 3:27:49 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, Thanks for giving him that. And if he is led to worship on the Sabbath, isn't it obvious to you that he is not going to worship on Sunday instead? Izzy Are you serious? So if you don't have a

Re: [TruthTalk] Xmas

2002-11-11 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/11/2002 5:20:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jumping to conclusions is not wise. noone was jumpint to conclusions. Thanks for answering the questions. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] The elections

2002-11-10 Thread CHamm56114
Izzy - I agree with what you say below and am thankful that more "godly" men are in authority now but we still have a responsibility to respect government officials. Sometimes that is hard isn't it? Laura What about the Bible teaching that God has ordained the government powers? Izzy says: This

Re: [TruthTalk] The elections

2002-11-10 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/10/2002 8:21:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, What do you mean by respect? What scripture are you referring to? If you mean obeying the laws I agree. If you mean looking up to someone who is desecrating the Oval Office with his adulterous

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-11-01 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/1/2002 7:28:27 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is the difference between Mormons and Christians. Without the cross there would be no resurrection. Laura DAVEH: Hmm..would you say that without Judas there would be no resurrection? Is it

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-11-01 Thread CHamm56114
PREEveryone who wears a cross is not saved! Everyone who wears a heart is not in love! Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-30 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/30/2002 12:44:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is the difference between Mormons and Christians. Without the cross there would be no resurrection. Laura DAVEH: Hmm..would you say that without Judas there would be no resurrection? Is it

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News Bible

2002-10-29 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/29/2002 2:39:04 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: One of these days I'll stumble onto a copy. Until then Laura, would you be so kind as to quote how the MESSAGE Bible relates 1Cor 15:29. Thanx This is from Eugene Peterson's the Message. He

Re: [TruthTalk] Faith vs. Works

2002-10-29 Thread CHamm56114
You are right. I have never cast out a demon but I have seen it done and know it to be real. Laura It seems to me that perhaps you do not have too much experience with casting out devils. Throwing Scriptures and the name of Jesus at them might not be very effective. Remember the sons of Sceva?

Re: ****** SPAM ***** Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-29 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/29/2002 12:12:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Though Jesus was 'God" prior to being exalted, he became exalted after he was resurrected and returned to his Father in Heaven. I am so confused If Jesus was an angel then how could he be God???

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News Bible

2002-10-29 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/29/2002 8:46:12 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you think people offer themselves to be baptized for those already in the grave?" I have no earthly idea I don't get it at all. To me it is a waste Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Faith vs. Works

2002-10-28 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/27/2002 3:59:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glenn wrote: Sounds like Satan has the power over you. I don't believe he does over me. Glenn, Doesn’t satan have power over us when we sin? Izzy Are you saying Satan is the reason

Re: [TruthTalk] Inerrancy

2002-10-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/24/2002 1:02:22 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Is that a typo, Laura?Did you mean IS??? VBG a BIG dog!!! Laura Nope no typo Seriously Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/24/2002 7:30:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, All of the cults who reject Christ’s atoning Blood also reject the cross (like Jehovah’s Witness and LDS). The cross is an affront to satan, and to those who are deceived by satan. It is the

Re: [TruthTalk] Good News Bible

2002-10-24 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/24/2002 9:11:39 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: At the same time, I picked up one called LETTERS TO YOUNG CHURCHES by JB Phillips. It is similar in nature. Phillips is interesting too but I also like the Message. Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-23 Thread CHamm56114
Agreed And it reminds us that Christ is who he said he was! Laura Laura, The cross is an offense to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-23 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/23/2002 10:23:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer) There is a lot of music being produced both commercially and privately by Mormons. I seldom listen to it, because I hear it in church every sunday. OK I have listened to the Mormon Tab Choir and

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-22 Thread CHamm56114
When I took a class on cults we were taught to start with what the "group" taught about Jesus. If they didn't believe that Jesus was God the Son, born of the virgin Mary, and that he was crucified,dead and buried, rose again and will come again, then we should be suspicious. Laura The major

Re: [TruthTalk] Inerrancy

2002-10-22 Thread CHamm56114
Thought this article fits in with the recent discussion. Laura Text Criticism and Inerrancy How can I reconcile my belief in the inerrancy of Scripture with comments in Bible translations that state that a particular verse is not 'in better manuscripts'? By J.I. Packer | posted 10/22/2002 The

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-22 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:47:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have no restrictions on what we read. It is purely a matter of individual choice. We are counseled to use wisdom in our choices, however. We are not the ones who are brainwashed!!! That is a joke,

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-22 Thread CHamm56114
PREBlaine, Do you believe Jesus is God the Son? Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Sin Christian Perfection

2002-10-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/17/2002 8:23:33 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have obviously never heard me preach. You are imagining what you think I must be preaching. Don't you understand that I have worked with sinners of all kinds, from the homosexual with aids, to

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/17/2002 6:10:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura, remember there are not 130 divisions in Mormonism. Nope. Christianity is not divided and Mormonism is not divided. Nope. Blainer) That's the female in you talking. (:) I am upset that Joe boy

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/17/2002 7:51:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer) The Big Picture seems to be what is missing here. Maybe this will help. We have learned from JS--whom we believe to have had many experiences with angels--that all angels who minister to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-18 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/18/2002 12:22:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all, I find it difficult to carry on a mutually respectful conversation with you when you refer to a man I greatly respect as "Joe Boy." I didn't mean to be disrespectful and maybe I did

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-16 Thread CHamm56114
PREGood to hear from you Bro James! Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-15 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/15/2002 12:19:32 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam and Eve were given the same test. They were commanded to multiply and replenish the earth, yet were also commanded not to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There was simply no way

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-15 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/15/2002 12:19:32 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the other hand, his wife and others were not as full of faith as he was, so he knew they would have a difficult time accepting his going forward with keeping this new commandment. So if one partner is

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread CHamm56114
PREI was taught that imputed righteousness means that we receive the righteousness of Christ because we can't possible be completely righteous on our own. Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread CHamm56114
I agree Laura Laura wrote: I was taught that imputed righteousness means that we receive the righteousness of Christ because we can't possible be completely righteous on our own. Right, but that imputed righteousness is not like some placard that you hold up and trick God into thinking you

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-15 Thread CHamm56114
INothing we can do makes us righteous. We are righteous because we are justified by faith in Christ Jesus. Works don't justify BUT the justified man works. I read that the other day and it made sense to me. Laura Glenn wrote: No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect. That is your opinion, but the

Re: [TruthTalk] Historical significance

2002-10-14 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/14/2002 2:15:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, why doesn't it mention Israel as a people or a nation? The Bible mentions it 71 times and Christians and Jews alike Israel wasn't established as a nation (the way we know it) until the 1940's. The

Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test

2002-10-14 Thread CHamm56114
PRESo Glenn, You are saying that faith alone is enough but that works are an evicence of this faith - Right?? Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do

[TruthTalk] Humor: HOW TO GET INTO HEAVEN

2002-10-13 Thread CHamm56114
A friend of mine asked her SS class this today. Laura How to get to Heaven? "If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale and gave all my money to the church, would that get me into Heaven?" I asked the children in my Sunday School class. "NO!" the children all answered. "If I

[TruthTalk] Mormon inconsistences

2002-10-12 Thread CHamm56114
Blaine Can you explain these inconsistencies? If God was inspiring the translation process of the Book of Mormon, why were 4,000 changes necessary? Why do the stories and the characters in the Book of Mormon repeat with only minor variations in content and different names given to the

[TruthTalk] Joseph's womanizing

2002-10-12 Thread CHamm56114
Sounds like something God would really be pleased with! That problem was Joseph's pursuit of other women. Ever since Joseph had founded the Mormon church, his status as a prophet had brought him the adoration of his followers, including many attractive women. Seducing Mormon women was easy for

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-12 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/12/2002 12:52:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You never mention some little known facts about him. For instance, there were few if any men who could whip him in a fair fight. It took a mob to get the best of him. I don't find fighting to be enough

Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture

2002-10-12 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/12/2002 1:00:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The BoM is such a compensation. It brings truth and light that was lost to the world through the careless acts of unrighteous men. Are you saying that Joseph Smith was a righteous man and that men like

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out Questions related to the Book of Mormon and other i...

2002-10-12 Thread CHamm56114
Book of Mormon Questions and other items related to Mormonism and Joseph Smith Is this where you found this site? It is even a Mormon site so Blaine can't say we never "go there" Laura

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