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6/18, Terry wrote:
..[On the news] They were talking
about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John
Kerry to take
communion because of his stand on
abortion.
Is this Bishop
Slade Henson wrote:
Hello
all.
I
was wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this
evening/morning. I give a hearty [and hopeful]"thank you" to those who
participate.
--
slade
Within Jewish circles,
the portion of Torah read overthis
G:What is a 'value system'?Once defined, does this
'system' find favor with God?I'm given to understand that words matter to
you.
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Lance, I am still waiting to
hear what, specifically,
America is supposed
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In a message dated 6/17/2004 7:49:09 AM Pacific
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writes:
You might want to rethink this. The only way for everyone
to simplysay, "Amen," is if everyone were clones of o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(e.g.) doestheVatican's
perception ofAmerca's invasion of Iraqoriginate in liberalism?
whoeverthinks it
does,could youallow the Vatican (perspective on) morality
to influenceyour value system?
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of slavery that was done by the South here, please LET US KNOW. Thank you. Izzy
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6/18, Terry wrote:
..[On the news] They were
talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow
John Kerry to take communion because of his stand on
abortion.
Is this Bishop
amoral?
--
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Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6/18, Terry wrote:
..[On the news]
They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he
would not allow John Kerry to take
communion because of his stand on abortion.
Is this Bishop amoral?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what's his name?
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=
I don't have a clue. I can't even remember my own name most of the
time.
Larry, jerry, Harry?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6/18, Terry wrote:
..[On the news] They were talking
about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John
Kerry to take communion because of
Hello
all.
I was
wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this evening/morning.
I give a hearty [and hopeful]"thank you" to those who
participate.
--
slade
Within Jewish circles, the portion of
Torah read overthis Shabbat/Sabbath
is Numbers 16:1-18:32. This portion
In a message dated 6/18/2004 2:59:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is this Bishop amoral?
Only God is amoral.
John
Lance wrote:
'any student of prophecy in Scripture..'would what??agree
with your 'reading' on the matter? In my opinion, many
'students of p' have lead many down many 'garden paths'
Any student of history/culture would acknowledge this.
No, I am not talking about agreeing with my
consideration: India under
Britain Africa (read the slave trade) under America.
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lance wrote:
'any student of prophecy in Scripture..'would what??agree
Lance wrote:
WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
your Izzie's 'reading' of it on all matters.
How do you know? Did God tell you this?
Lance wrote:
You, David, are sufficiently informed
to know that.
I understand that we each grasp truth from a different perspective, and
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Lance wrote:
WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
your Izzie's 'reading' of it on all matters.
How do you know? Did God tell you this?
Lance wrote
17, 2004 10:48
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Lance wrote:
WHAT, in my opinion, GOD DOES NOT DO is to convey
your Izzie's 'reading' of it on all matters.
How do you know? Did God tell you this?
Lance wrote:
You, David, are sufficiently informed
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]DavidM:
I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you
don'tfeign ignorance of something when you're not. I so want not to be
reminded ofClinton saying "It all depends what is is" but, I am. The words
evidentialist, rationalist,
biblicist
Lance wrote:
I so want to take you seriously.
I cannot take you seriously, Lance, because you never even try to answer
some simple questions. Watch out that you do not assume the role of
resident mocker on this list.
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
--
Let your
DavidM:Not 'never' David. Sadly, I did mean most of what I said concerning
yourself.
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Lance wrote:
I so want to take
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]I cannot take you
seriously, Lance, because you never even try to answersome simple
questions. Watch out that you do not assume the role ofresident mocker
on this list.
jt:Too late - the "resident mocker" role has
already been taken by one who consigns
Judyt:Hate? Guess which is the operative 'mood' in
many of YOUR posts?
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Judyt: Thanks.
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From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]DavidM:
I so want to take you seriously.
Lance Muir wrote:
DavidM:I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you don't
feign ignorance of something when you're not.I so want not to be reminded of
Clinton saying It all depends what is is but, I am. The words
evidentialist, rationalist, biblicist fundamentalist come to
Terry:A hint of mockery at poor old Lance
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Lance Muir wrote:
DavidM:I so want to take you seriously. I so want
June 17, 2004 15:07
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Lance Muir wrote:
DavidM:I so want to take you seriously. I so want to believe that you
don't
feign ignorance of something when you're not.I so wan
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, do you think our trip into Iraq might parallel this idea, perhaps as
a judgment on Iraq?
It's possible, Perry. I know that Iraq was a very unhappy and tortured place
under Hussein. He is a bad man.
Bill
--
Let your speech be always
Lance, I am still waiting to hear what, specifically, America is supposed to repent of
doing to the world. The
gobbledygook below says absolutely nothing. (America
is supposed to repent of India
under Britain? America
is to repent of that? and
Africa under America?
What is that? Do you
In a message dated 6/17/2004 7:49:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You might want to rethink this. The only way for everyone to simply
say, "Amen," is if everyone were clones of one another and perceived
truth in exactly the same way. The fact is that many do not abide in
(e.g.)
doestheVatican's perception ofAmerca's invasion of
Iraqoriginate in liberalism?
whoeverthinks it
does,could youallow the Vatican (perspective on) morality
to influenceyour value system?
G ~P
235
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"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered
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Izzy
opines
.but not against his will. J
How, if "Bush did not decide,"
could you ever know, Izzy?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. TaylorSent: Monday, June 14,
Bill
Taylor
offers the following emphasis on Davids post:
George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God
did.God simply used Bush as his pawn.
I hope you understand my use of hyperbole
here. I was saying it this way to stress that God had a plan that he was
accomplishing through
'hook' to invade Iraq.
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"George Bus
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DavidM:'any student of prophecy in Scripture..'would what??agree with your
'reading' on the matter? In my opinion, many 'students of p' have lead many
down many 'garden
In a message dated 6/16/2004 6:38:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hope, John, that you have stayed in tuned enough to notice the quotation marks around my comment. I'm still tryin' to decide if my vote matters. Shoot, I'm still tryin' to decide if I can decide if my vote
From:
David Miller
Bill
Taylor
offers the following emphasis on Davids post:
"George Bush did not decide
to invade Iraq. God
did.God simply used Bush as his pawn."
I hope you understand my use of hyperbole
here. I was saying it this way to stress that God
, 2004 8:08 AM
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In Habakkuk 1 we are told that God raised the Chaldeans (today known as
Iraq) against Judah. Are we to believe that the Chaldeans knew they were
doing God's will? I suspect not. God may have just removed his hand
into Iraq might parallel this idea, perhaps as
a judgement on Iraq?
Perry
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I wonder, Perry, Do you think
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I wonder, Perry, Do you think that this is how God gets godly leaders to
do his will -- i.e., he removes his hand of restraint, that they will do
what comes
David Miller wrote:
In other words, God is orchestrating the political
boundaries that exist between countries, who
is in power and who is out of power.
Lance wrote:
There's no 'orchestration' that I can see.
How then do you read the book of Daniel? Do you think the book of
Daniel is the
David Miller wrote:
George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God did.
God simply used Bush as his pawn.
Bill wrote:
how might you reconcile the above statement with free will
-- Izzy's given that we have it and that God will not violate
it in anyone?
I did not have any problem with
invariably make a more convincing
case for that which is nonetheless false. Case in point.
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David Miller wrote:
George Bush did
Lance wrote:
... to what shall we attribute this response?
Well, inconsistency.
What do you think is inconsistent in my response?
My response seems very consistent to me, but then, you already knew
that, didn't you? :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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David Miller wrote:
In other words, God is orchestrating the political
boundaries that exist between countries, who
is in power and who is out of power.
Lance wrote:
There's
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Lance wrote:
... to what shall we attribute this response?
Well, inconsistency.
What do you think is inconsistent
And your box Lance? TFTorrance and Polanyi with
Calvinistic overtones?
From what you write to TT it appears obvious
thatyour wisdom comes from
movies - since most of your quotes come from
them. If anyone uses a quote
from scripture here you
bring up the box theory and how noone really
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George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq. God
did.God simply used Bush as his pawn.
Hi David,
This question is as much
.but not against his will. J
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George Bush did not decide to invade Iraq.
God
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Hi
David,
This question is as much for
Izzy as it is to you. A while back Izzy made some very definite statements
concerning the importance of free will and the moral imperative on God's
part that he n
Did God ever make you do anything that you did not decide? Iz
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Izzy opines
In a message dated 6/15/2004 6:14:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
.but not against his will. J
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Lance wrote:
I've read and, do read the book of Daniel. I do not see
a connection between it's meaning and present day events.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and
twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help
me; and I remained there
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Lance wrote:
I've read and, do read the book of Daniel. I do not see
a connection between it's meaning and present day events.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and
twenty days: but, lo, Michael
ot a
puppeteer."
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Bush blundered in his preemptive moveLance
wrote: I've read and, do read the book of Daniel. I do not
see a c
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: ShieldsFamily
Sent: 06/08/2004 10:16 PM
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Chris
did live in Arkansas until recently. I wont tell you why he left, but he
, 2004 18:58
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Lance wrote:
Your President made a decision on behalf of your
nation to invade another country. I'd say that
calls for commendation or blame. I choose the latter.
I commend Bush for following God on this one.
Lance
Lance wrote:
Your President made a decision on behalf of your
nation to invade another country. I'd say that
calls for commendation or blame. I choose the latter.
I commend Bush for following God on this one.
Lance wrote:
His choice to enter, sort of by invitation,
Afghanistan was an
Izzy:
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The
most profound endorsement of President Bushs character Ive ever readChris
word
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]From:
Judy Taylor
JT: I want to ask Chris why he would think that
this is the Holy Spirit speaking to him vs some other spirit?
CB: Well, the short answer is in John 10:27.
jt: "His sheep hear His voice?" So you believe
you are His sheep and George W.
Would you really want to endorse anyone that Chris approved of?
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Izzy
Chris, I wouldn't trust "vaticanassassins.org" or
anyone else involved in spreading thehalf truth/lies and conspiracy
theories below even though I wassickenedto see George W. Bush presenting an American Freedom
Award to the head of an apostate organization that holds so many millions of
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly
mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy
and character assassination.
Heresy?!?!?!?
jt: Henry Lee Lucas was not a child molester, nor was
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy
and characterassassination.
Heresy?!?!?!?
jt:Yes - you are reporting something that
allegedly happened that you were not present to
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: Judy Taylor
Hmmm ... Protecting one of your own?
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel
in lies and half truths?
I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that into
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hmmm
... Protecting one of your own?
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel
in lies and half truths?
I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that into "lies and half
truths". Please note she did not say, "no".
jt: The lies and half
blundered in his preemptive move
From: Chris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm ...
George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it.
jt: Reported by who? The above is
serious heresy and character
assassination.
Heresy?!?!?!?
jt:Yes - you
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:17:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? Your Hebrew words
don't change a thing. It's another spirit Chris and I would not continue listening because it lies.
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
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From: Lance Muir
Sent: 06/07/2004 10:15 AM
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his preemptive move
This site has the caption: TruthTalk. Bush and his
aides have placed the world
I want to ask Chris why he would think that this is the
Holy Spirit speaking to him vs some other spirit? How do you know, do you try
the spirits to see if they are of God and if so, how so?
To Lance, why accuse Bush and his aides for the
condition of the world. It was already in peril when
. Terrorists are bad
people. Squish 'em and put 'em through a blender.
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Taylor
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Sent: June 07, 2004 13:03
Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in
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I want to ask Chris why he would think
The most profound endorsement of President Bushs character Ive
ever readChris word from the Lord against him. Izzy
While in prayer the day before the election of 2000
The Ruach ha Kadosh (The Holy Spirit) spoke to me of the presidential election,
The man who wins is
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