Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
what you say with integrity. Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:47:47 EDT In a message dated 6/16/2005 1:49:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: When some TTers accuse us (Mormon TTers) of not being Christian, do ponder the same question, Perry? Charles Perry Locke wrote: Blaine, Do you really believe that you have the power to pronounce that someone is a Christian, or is not a Christian? -- ~~~ Dave Hansen

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
and the rest of us. I am anxious to hear Blaine's reasons for saying that, and see if they hold up under Kevin and the groups scrutiny. Perry From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: I sure don't want to speak in Blaine's behalf, but when I read his comments it just seemed to me he was tossing back that which has been tossed at him numerous times. Perhaps he was just trying (blowing smoke as you put it) to see what kind of response would be returned...I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:55:14 -0700 DAVEH: I sure don't want to speak in Blaine's behalf, but when I read his comments it just seemed to me he was tossing back that which has

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
So how do you determine which Spirit is True which spirit is false? By your feelings?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: I agree with your comment, Kevin--but the question is, who are the false Christs and false spirits? Kevin, everything you say to berate is a double-edged sword. And

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Judy Taylor
By the burning bosom from what I've observed. jt On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So how do you determine which Spirit is True which spirit is false? By your feelings?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: I agree with

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread knpraise
The Titian Truth (Titus 3:9-11) is an easy one to figure out IMO. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience So how do you determine which

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
I state the reason why. Did you forget already? Do I need to list the reasons why LDS are NOT Christians AGAIN? Blaine just makes allegations without so much as to what are the specific Beliefs, Actions, Areas to which he refers. Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: When some TTers accuse

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Does one take tests in this manner? What is the difference between the LDS Burning in the Bosom and the Occult burning Bosom here? http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/fire/fire1193.html Joe Smith King Follett Discourse Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true God; and you

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-18 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/16/2005 1:49:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are false spirits and false christ's out there too. Blainerb: I agree with your comment, Kevin--but the question is, who are the false Christs and false spirits? Kevin, everything you say to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-18 Thread knpraise
Blainerb: I agree with your comment, Kevin--but the question is, who are the false Christs and false spirits? Kevin, everything you say to berate is a double-edged sword. And it always ends up cutting back in your direction. You are not even a Christian. You are a Kevinite, who preaches

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine: For the sake of avoiding getting into a heated argument, I apologize for anything that you saw as being a deliberate attempt to "besmirch" you on TT, Brother Perry. However, I stillhave no explanation for Raymond and I having the same experience when we tried to unsubscribe from

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:12:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaine, In the email below, did you intend to post those three pictures, plus Ray's new email address and your personal correspondence with him? or was that just a mistake? Just checking it out

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine: So! You are the one! I assumed that witness came from Perry. Poor ol' Perry, catching H--- for something he didn't even do! Thanks for clarifying it, however--for some reason, this becomes easier to handle knowing what actually happened. In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:28:33 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
like what might be termed Christian Persecution. privately. Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:45:36 EDT Blaine: For the sake of avoiding

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't get me wrong -- Blaine was wrong IMO in the way this was handled. Should have been private. I could have handled this privately, andit mayhave been better to do so. However, I would

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a part of their teachings back then that Temple marriages played a role in the new world you would receive; the god of this earth was not the main god. ? JD, Sorry you were turned

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
It was a part of their teachings back then that Temple marriages played a role in the new world you would receive Still the teachings of the Church.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't get me wrong -- Blaine

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
Can you imagine ministersfeeling so threatened by such a young lad thatthey felt they had to attack him from the pulpit? So can you tell us why LDS feel so THREATENED by "Anti's"?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/15/2005 9:50:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/16/2005 11:56:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a part of their teachings back then that Temple marriages played a role in the new world you would receive Still the teachings of the Church. Blaine: True. But about the "god of this

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/16/2005 11:57:30 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you imagine ministersfeeling so threatened by such a young lad thatthey felt they had to attack him from the pulpit? So can you tell us why LDS feel so THREATENED by "Anti's"?

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
Different Spirits Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God Difference between God a god But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
BB says They leave out the good stuff. But the good that the church does is NOT the ISSUE! The church does good, BUT it also does the MOST EVIL thing possible in all the UNIVERSE! It damns peoples ETERNAL SOULS to HELL TRUTH is the issue. Let the chips fall where they may. Gal 4;6 Am I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
They actually seem to reflect their own feelings of being threatened You are grasping at straws here Blaine. What "facts" make you think Antis feel threatened? Believe meI do NOT feel threatened by whatever. Even though I have been threatened by "Church security" and by individual mormons. So you

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Blainerb473
Blainer:You have hit on the right issue, alright. There is a teaching in the LDS church that Satan for all practical purposes is the god of this world, ie., Lord of the spiritual wickedness that is "of the world," and not of God. In other words, Satan has a lot of power to work through the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
There are false spirits and false christ's out there too.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainer:You have hit on the right issue, alright. There is a teaching in the LDS church that Satan for all practical purposes is the god of this world, ie., Lord of the spiritual wickedness that is "of the world,"

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread knpraise
ssion@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Can you imagine ministersfeeling so threatened by such a young lad thatthey felt they had to attack him from the pulpit? So can you tell us why LDS fe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread knpraise
Asman is, God once was .. was the reference.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:09:21 EDTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience In a message dated 6/16/2005 11:56:00 AM Mountain

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Kevin, are using pervert for JS in the same sense you used pervert for JD? From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:33:45 -0700 (PDT) BB says

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
NO JS was a sexual pervert, he was a fornicator, an adulterer and a sexual deviant. He liked very young girls (known - 14 year olds SICK - possibly younger), he liked mothers daughters and he liked sisters, he was a pervert who practiced secret polygamy and polyandry Some of his "wives" remained

RE: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
! So, your attempt to besmirch my reputation on TT is BASELESS and FAILED because of it! Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:56 EDT Following

RE: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:56 EDT Following is a very recent note from Raymond. He has apparently had the same problem unsubscribing as I had when I tried to unsubscribe temporarily some time

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:28:04 -0400 I will add one tid-bit of information. When that list was inadvertently posted to TT, I responded with a rather involved witness knowing that when I hit the send button -- it would post

Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience

2005-06-15 Thread knpraise
t: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:13 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: Not enough time nor patience John, Personally, I am finished with this topic with Blaine. He attempted to besmirch me publicly, I responded publicly. It is over except for Blaine's apology to me. (I am not holding my breath ;-)PerryFr