Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread Lance Muir
, 2005 18:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split John wrote: Sorry, Christine. Papa is worried about you and us liberals. LOL. I'm not worried about Christine one bit. I'm very proud of her, but I will protect her from traps, bad questions

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread David Miller
John wrote: So I was right! Papa is worried and muct rush to the rescue. No, John, you were not right. Worry is a sin. Protecting those under my authority is not a sin. Surely you understand the difference. By the way, Christine, being the humble woman of God that she is, greatly

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread knpraise
ul 2005 06:57:50 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split John wrote: So I was right! Papa is worried and muct rush to the rescue. No, John, you were not right. Worry is a sin. Protecting those under my authority is not a sin. Surely you

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: A David but who will protect her from you (your errant epistemology - your errant theologizing - your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a little late for that, isn't it? Do you realize how terrible such comments sound to a conservative? Liberals always attack the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread Lance Muir
As to your response hereunder, I concur. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 07, 2005 09:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Lance wrote: A David but who

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread David Miller
John wrote: LOL Davidyour argument worry is a sin, therefore, it couldn't apply to me thingy contrasted to your insistence that you are not a perfectionist (sinless) salvantionist is rather humorrous. I do not believe that perfection brings salvation, but rather that a Godly

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread knpraise
-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:02:24 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split John wrote: LOL Davidyour argument "worry is a sin, ther

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread Christine Miller
Amen! --- David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote: A David but who will protect her from you (your errant epistemology - your errant theologizing - your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a little late for that, isn't it? Do you realize how terrible such

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread knpraise
A daughter's loyalty is a good thing. Jd-Original Message-From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Amen! --- David Miller [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Let me ask you this: if I continue in an addiction, or if I continue as a selfish person - not seeing my own failings, am I saved or not? Probably not, but the Lord ultimately is the judge. Justification comes before the change, so it is possible for a repentent person to

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-07 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Lance wrote: A David but who will protect her from you (your errant epistemology - your errant theologizing - your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a little late for that, isn't it? Do you realize how terrible such comments sound to a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Lance Muir
Might you venture an attempt at outlining the distinction between duality and dualism? - Original Message - From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 05, 2005 15:50 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Lance Muir
16:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Hello, Judy, Thank you. Yes, I enjoyed my vacation very much. :-) I was fascinated to see dualism being discussed on TT: I'm teaching on it this Wednesday night to the youth group at church

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread knpraise
EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 05, 2005 16:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Hello, Judy, Thank you. Yes, I enjoyed my vacation very much. :-) I was fascinated to see dualism being discussed on TT: I'm teach

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm interested in Christines outline but I'm not sure that it is for the same reasons as you and Lance. What she has shared already is actively walking after the Spirit which permeates every part of our daily lives" which is life to me. OTOH your mentor TFT puts fortha whole other view

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Lance Muir
- splitting apart that which ought not be split I'm interested in Christines outline but I'm not sure that it is for the same reasons as you and Lance. What she has shared already is actively walking after the Spirit which permeates every part of our daily lives" which is

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:32:01 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jt refers to 'Einstein (as) the unbeliever'. He was not an unbeliever. Nobody is an 'unbeliever'. If Jesus remains a stumbling stone and/or a rock of offense then he is an unbeliever who is not grafted in

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:32:01 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jt refers to 'Einstein (as) the unbeliever'. He was not an unbeliever. Nobody is an 'unbeliever'.

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Might you venture an attempt at outlining the distinction between duality and dualism? Why? Isn't that kind of like asking someone to outline the distinction between liberality and liberalism? If you think a point needs to be made, make it. Peace be with you. David Miller.

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread knpraise
It is a good question. Christine is fully capable of a qualified answer.You disagree? JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:45:46 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread David Miller
John wrote: It is a good question. Christine is fully capable of a qualified answer. You disagree? Yes. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread knpraise
I kinda thought you might. Sorry, Christine. Papa is worried about youand us liberals. JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:08:37 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread knpraise
So I was right! Papais worried and muct rush to the rescue. JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:39:37 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split John wrote: Sorry

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread knpraise
Yse, I agere !!! JD-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:42:13 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I was right! Papais worried

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Im cracking up From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:42 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Too funny! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Yse, I agere

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-06 Thread Debbie Sawczak
Ihave to come back to this, Judy. Your denial of the relevance of the belowis itself a symptom of (another) dualism. Reality is only one ballpark.The lensthrough which we see tends to affect our vision of everything, the way we think about everything. We can be alerted to the lens through

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread Charles Perry Locke
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org CC: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:42:26 -0400 I should add that a person who is born of the Spirit has a new nature along with new desires. I do not believe

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi Perry; I'd say it was a time of temptation, death is and has always been an enemy and his flesh sinless as it was would put up a fight. Still he determined to finish the course. I agree with you that this was not ajoyous time for him. Still it is written "then said I, Lo, I come (in the

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread Christine Miller
Lance wrote: Should you and your grandchild go out today for an ice cream cone, would your enjoyment of this be spiritual/carnal? I think what Judy is talking about is a sort of faith that permeates into all aspects of our life. In Luke 3 John the Baptist talks about this: Luk 3:7 Then said

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Amen! Bless you Christine - You pop up again just when we need you most :) I was wondering where you had gone - hope you enjoyed your holiday. jt On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance wrote: Should you and your grandchild go out today

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread Christine Miller
Hello, Judy, Thank you. Yes, I enjoyed my vacation very much. :-) I was fascinated to see dualism being discussed on TT: I'm teaching on it this Wednesday night to the youth group at church. Blessings --- Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen! Bless you Christine - You pop up again

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread knpraise
)Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Lance wrote: Should you and your grandchild go out today for an ice cream cone, would your enjoyment of this be spiritual/carnal? I think what Judy is talking about is a sort of faith that permeates into all aspects

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread ttxpress
there's a certain magical quality in the air--are youwritingthis from the Disneyland Hotel? On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ||.. would your enjoyment of[ice cream cones]be spiritual/carnal? [It's] a sort of faith that permeates into all

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split If there were no connection between the conceptual and the lived then, you would both be fine but, there is. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Too funny! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:46 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
, 2005 10:15 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split Judy, how does the fact that Jesus asked if the cup could be removed, but then said thy will be done? Was that a moment of weakness or resistance, followed

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split

2005-07-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
How about sharing more of your lesson with us, Christine? iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine Miller Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:11 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart