Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
cd wrote:2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. Blainerb: The heavens do not compel or even influence, they symbolize--they are the handwriting of God, showing us his glory and his wisdom. Some ancient people actually worshipped planets, stars, constellations, as if they were gods--but the truly wise, such as the wise men who followed the star to find the Messiah and worship him, will find the heavens all testify of the truths of Christ--as do all things. Your wisdom, cd, is from what you perceive as being popular and widely accepted. The truth is seldom that. Blainerb In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:37:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: David my advice- for what its worth- is to leave this astrology garbage alone -as God said to do. 2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. a 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
In a message dated 2/15/2006 6:23:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: I am surprised and disappointed that you would be any part of this sinDavid. cd, If what you say is correct, the wise men of the east who used astrological symbolism to locate the birth place of Christ were sinners. Maybe you need to review what the Bible really says--between the lines, at least. Blainerb
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/17/2006 12:19:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller cd wrote:2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. Blainerb: The heavens do not compel or even influence, they symbolize--they are the handwriting of God, showing us his glory and his wisdom. Some ancient people actually worshipped planets, stars, constellations, as if they were gods--but the truly wise, such as the wise men who followed the star to find the Messiah and worship him, will find the heavens all testify of the truths of Christ--as do all things. Your wisdom, cd, is from what you perceive as being popular and widely accepted. The truth is seldom that. Blainerb cd: Blaine you are arguing with a dictionary Definition of Astrology in the above. Think about it. The wise men knew the sign for the birth of Christ-that is a long way from predicting the future as laid out in the stars. What you are doing is the same as wichcraft-This type of star reading came from Babylon. In a message dated 2/15/2006 4:37:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: David my advice- for what its worth- is to leave this astrology garbage alone -as God said to do. 2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. a 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/17/2006 12:34:29 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/15/2006 6:23:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: I am surprised and disappointed that you would be any part of this sinDavid. cd, If what you say is correct, the wise men of the east who used astrological symbolism to locate the birth place of Christ were sinners. Maybe you need to review what the Bible really says--between the lines, at least. Blainerb cd: I already covered the Christ/wise men issue.But as concerning the Biblical stance on astrology-why wouldI need to read between the lines when thishas clear words in the below passage of Isaiah. You are in trouble stargazer,better leave it alone or else move to a warm climate so you can get used to the heat. Why consult the stars for the future and not consult God who is the only one who knows the future (ie the end from the beginning)-that is same as playing a whore for another god Blaine? Isa 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Isa 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:55:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny. I just don't see David as ever having been young. :-) jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys are just upset you didn't get ahold of me when I was young and ignorant. Maybe if you had encountered me when I was 8, you could have played me like playdough. Surely you both understand that if I appear incorrect and immoveable to you, then you likely appear incorrect and immoveable to me. It works both ways. It is the nature of one who studies and forms opinions. The godly will consider such comments as a compliment concerning integrity, so thank you for the compliment. :-) David Miller p.s. Blaine... my astrological sign is pices. I guess that astrology isn't helping you be too predictive after all. :-) Thank you David, I have wondered about that. Pisces is my opposite sign, and, being the sign of transition from Winter to Spring, is next to Aries,the sign that ushers in Springtime (1st degree Aries is also the first day of Spring). I believe all things are written in the stars--the trick is in reading them accurately.:) I try, and sometimes get pretty close to people by doing so. But humans are so complex!! Astrology helps, but is not, of course, infallible. But thanks for being open--lots of people will not divulge their birth info to me, probably think by doing so I might form unjustified opinions of them. :) One thing, though, without precise birth info--date, time of day, and place of birth--you can't tell too much beyond generalities. The beauty of precise astrological analysis is that no two personalities can ever be the same--not even identical twins--which is a reality check for astrology few people understand. Blainer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born under one of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius. Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
cd: David my advice- for what its worth- is to leave this astrology garbage alone -as God said to do. 2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. a 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 4:57:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:55:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny. I just don't see David as ever having been young. :-) jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys are just upset you didn't get ahold of me when I was young and ignorant. Maybe if you had encountered me when I was 8, you could have played me like playdough. Surely you both understand that if I appear incorrect and immoveable to you, then you likely appear incorrect and immoveable to me. It works both ways. It is the nature of one who studies and forms opinions. The godly will consider such comments as a compliment concerning integrity, so thank you for the compliment. :-) David Miller p.s. Blaine... my astrological sign is pices. I guess that astrology isn't helping you be too predictive after all. :-) Thank you David, I have wondered about that. Pisces is my opposite sign, and, being the sign of transition from Winter to Spring, is next to Aries,the sign that ushers in Springtime (1st degree Aries is also the first day of Spring). I believe all things are written in the stars--the trick is in reading them accurately.:) I try, and sometimes get pretty close to people by doing so. But humans are so complex!! Astrology helps, but is not, of course, infallible. But thanks for being open--lots of people will not divulge their birth info to me, probably think by doing so I might form unjustified opinions of them. :) One thing, though, without precise birth info--date, time of day, and place of birth--you can't tell too much beyond generalities. The beauty of precise astrological analysis is that no two personalities can ever be the same--not even identical twins--which is a reality check for astrology few people understand. Blainer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born under one of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius. Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
Blaine, considering that I am an identical twin myself, I do understand how what you just said would be a reality check for astrology. :-) David Miller Born March 3, 1960 4:50 am Cleveland, Ohio. In a snow blizzard that dumped 24 inches of snow. David Miller p.s. Blaine... my astrological sign is pices. I guess that astrology isn't helping you be too predictive after all. :-) Thank you David, I have wondered about that. Pisces is my opposite sign, and, being the sign of transition from Winter to Spring, is next to Aries, the sign that ushers in Springtime (1st degree Aries is also the first day of Spring).I believe all things are written in the stars--the trick is in reading them accurately. :)I try, and sometimes get pretty close to people by doing so. But humans are so complex!! Astrology helps, but is not, of course, infallible. But thanks for being open--lots of people will not divulge their birth info to me, probably think by doing so I might form unjustified opinions of them. :) One thing, though, without precise birth info--date, time of day, and place of birth--you can't tell too much beyond generalities. The beauty of precise astrological analysis is that no two personalities can ever be the same--not even identical twins--which is a reality check for astrology few people understand. Blainer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born under one of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius. Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
cd: I am surprised and disappointed that you would be any part of this sin David. [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/15/2006 6:45:59 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller Blaine, considering that I am an identical twin myself, I do understand how what you just said would be a reality check for astrology. :-) David Miller Born March 3, 1960 4:50 am Cleveland, Ohio. In a snow blizzard that dumped 24 inches of snow. David Miller p.s. Blaine... my astrological sign is pices. I guess that astrology isn't helping you be too predictive after all. :-) Thank you David, I have wondered about that. Pisces is my opposite sign, and, being the sign of transition from Winter to Spring, is next to Aries, the sign that ushers in Springtime (1st degree Aries is also the first day of Spring).I believe all things are written in the stars--the trick is in reading them accurately. :)I try, and sometimes get pretty close to people by doing so. But humans are so complex!! Astrology helps, but is not, of course, infallible. But thanks for being open--lots of people will not divulge their birth info to me, probably think by doing so I might form unjustified opinions of them. :) One thing, though, without precise birth info--date, time of day, and place of birth--you can't tell too much beyond generalities. The beauty of precise astrological analysis is that no two personalities can ever be the same--not even identical twins--which is a reality check for astrology few people understand. Blainer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born under one of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius. Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born underone of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius.Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
Someone else who notices! Thanks Blainerb!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 14:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born underone of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius.Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb
Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller
You guys are just upset you didn't get ahold of me when I was young and ignorant. Maybe if you had encountered me when I was 8, you could have played me like playdough. Surely you both understand that if I appear incorrect and immoveable to you, then you likely appear incorrect and immoveable to me. It works both ways. It is the nature of one who studies and forms opinions. The godly will consider such comments as a compliment concerning integrity, so thank you for the compliment. :-) David Miller p.s. Blaine... my astrological sign is pices. I guess that astrology isn't helping you be too predictive after all. :-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've read you over time. Lance. Yes, David is pretty fixed--he was probably born under one of the four fixed signs--Leo, Taurus, Scorpio, or Aquarius. Or, he's one of those highly independent Aries characters, who never admit to being wrong!! If I knew for sure, I could read him better. Blainerb -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
