Engine is a very good
thing. And we're really close there given cmlenz's genshi work and
Ian's work on Paste/Pylons.
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Update 2: Just had a look at it, this was actually not so difficult.
So I have now replaced RuleDispatch completely with peak.rules. Shall I
check this in for TG 1.1?
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It's very likely that we'll be able to get TG2 working on the Google
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and get a nice new shiny html directory with an html version of the
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IMHO I'd prefer to reveal the flexibility to users that willing to
customize url dispatch.
I don't want to hide the flexibility from them either, but I do wan to
make environment.py and middleware.py as understandable as possible.
I think a comment with a link to the doc on how to update
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I just added the password encryption method (same has tg1) in the
tgrepozewho plugin and updated the demo app to make it super easy to
test...
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has a url function that works pretty much the way that
WebHelpers url.static works, and I'm hoping that they move url.static
to the __call__ since that would make the TG url function redundant.
If not we'll probably just alias h.url.static as url in tg2 and be
done with it. ;)
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for
both cases. Hopefully we're getting to the point that validation is
reasonably well tested. ;)
We still need to do a non-toscawidgets formencode schema validation
test or two though before I'll feel comfortable with the level of
testing we've got on validation.
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, and others at
the Python sprint , I think it's very likely that we'll change our
minds on this, and I think we would likely be happy to see a patch
that includes helpers into the template when the new version of
WebHelpers is out.)
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Devin Torres [EMAIL
/controllers.py',
line 23 in _configured_engines g.tg_configured_engines = set()
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'tg_configured_engines'
Does someone else ever had this error?
btw: this error is also produced with starting toolbox2
TIA Ivo Looser
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Damn, forgot the URL :)
http://tinyurl.com/yvcnm6
In that thread, I notice that Chris P seems to have fixed this one ;)
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page_editor=PageController()
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the pre user modification version of the template off
somewhere -- and providing another tool which does 3 way merge. Even
then we'll need some way to handle adding new model information, since
we probably don't want to modify the models.py file directly
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I have specifically asked the student applicants for twTools related
projects to discuss the selection of JS libraries, since we have several
proposals which are planning implement a map and datagrid ToscaWidget,
and it would be a waste of time and effort, IMHO, if they all picked a
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like it's worth paying attention too.
OK, my grammar is shot.
too to
Going to bed now. Talk to you all tomorrow.
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starting a project using the current TG2 trunk. How do set
response headers from a controller and/or access the WebOb (?)
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avalilable (with different names of
course) with different rendering options.
Alternatively we could also add the buffet interface into TG2 and use
that, but I tend to think that the Pylons decision to drop buffet for
the new 5 line render functions makes sense.
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
while updating the TurboGearsTeam and DocTeam pages [1], I was thinking
that the TurboGears project organization needs a little update. This is
especially
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Jonathan LaCour
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Ian Bicking wrote:
You can't get unicode even via **params. Encoded strings work
okay, though.
Duh... I didn't even think about this. That being said, I still
think that this is a largely irrelevant issue,
or Pylons where decode_params_names is being set.
I'll search around a bit more and see if I can figure out what might
be happening...
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OK, I know this one now. Talked to Kevin last night
We applied in 2006 when we were a very young project, and we were not
accepted, though TurboGears community members did sponsor work that
year using hte PSF as a mentoring organization.
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If it has a basic @require decorator, and a way to check for
permissions in a database that should be enough.
My current plan is only to use identity to require that a user is
logged in somewhere, and even that can be dropped if it doesn't work
or is too complicated to set up.
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if they are
interested?
We can also provide backup mentors for disappearing mentors... Not
sure what we should do about missing students ;)
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
percious schrieb:
Deadline is March 12th, Yikes!
Still a week to go. Come
Sounds like a new name is in order...
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Felix Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Ramm wrote:
Feel free to take a look and use it for inspiration on anything you
want in the Authority project.
http://code.google.com/p/wsgiauth/
Thanks
know I could be convinced to change
my mind. But, I don't think it's likely unless the AuthKit project
starts becoming more open, and more active.
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Devin Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't believe we're having this discussion on this mailing list
as
possible.
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, here's the question of the day.
Alberto and others want to have routes integration in TG2, which I
think is a worthwhile goal.
An earlier version of TG2 had routes integration by default
BTW, Mark, did you have a chance to put your auth code up someplace?
Not yet, I had more trouble with the Routes stuff than expected, and
then I found a few places which needed to be cleaned up on wsgiauth
before I could post it. I do expect to have it up somewhere this
afternoon, I'll let you
Feel free to take a look and use it for inspiration on anything you
want in the Authority project.
http://code.google.com/p/wsgiauth/
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The code right now is pretty much on my desktop PC...getting it up on an SVN
repos is one of the tasks I hope to accomplish this weekend. Not currently
part of TG svn. I think it probably shouldn't be, but if others have
opinions, let's hear em.
Authority it self is going to need to have
What do you all think -- especially those of you who own projects in
the /projects directory?
I had on my mind that it already was like that.
That was my best guess of what people thought/assumed, but I couln't
find anywhere that we publicly talked about any of this. And it seems
that
*coding-style-nazi over and out*
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What I would really like to do is merge ModelDesigner into DBMechanic
so that you can do on-the-fly database changes (this is going to
require reflection and sqlalchemy.migrate to work). This was the plan
for DBMechanic v0.4. Now, who do I have to convince to join my team
(ie, who is
.
I'll add more information to the Wiki as more details are determined.
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Mark, I saw your question in the commit message to r4087
(http://trac.turbogears.org/changeset/4087).
I have another nice demo app from GHOP tasks 284/285
(http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open
another week before we have our first non-feature
complete non-api-stable release that we can push out to the
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/1.0/IntroductionToWidgets
/docs/1.1/IntroductionToWidgets*
/docs/2.0/IntroductionToWidgets*
seems like the most obvious way to go about it...
On Feb 3, 2008 5:20 PM, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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And I think the source text file for the wili20 demo should go
somebody doing a set of extensions to the tg_flash stuff
in turbogears 1, does anybody remember where that was and weather it's
worth including in tg2?
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, everything comes back as an
HTTPException, but that's been good enough to get everything workin so
far, particularly because you can poke at the Response object's
properties and handle different response codes differently...
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On Jan 25, 2008 9:40 PM, percious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I am pretty sure I got it all working. The call to error_handler
was missing the args sent into the function for some reason, so I
passed them through. This seems to work fine.
Before I commit these changes, would someone mind
I think there was a notion to make validate into a real
decorator with no particular hooks in the TurboGears controller's
__call__ method. That would make it easy enough to replace the TG
validator with custom validators from tosca, or wherever.
Count me as a huge -1 on this idea.
. But in the meantime I'm adding tickets for
improving the current validation system.
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' environment.py and model.__init__.py if you guys agree with
it.
-- Luciano
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I guess we need to pull over the init_model() method, or show people
how to write their own. I origonally was leaning towards write your
own but this is really
. Where should I send it?
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Could you post some code for us?
We're more than happy to help, but I think we need a bit more information.
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On Jan 22, 2008 2:30 PM, Luciano G. Panaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I am trying tg2 and I've come across an issue when trying to reflect a
table for my model
for a while) had time to look much
into doing something interesting in that area. But as I said
earlier, I'll definitely support those who do.
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On Jan 22, 2008 6:31 PM, Luciano G. Panaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe some ideas could be taken from here:
http://inside.glnetworks.de/2008
I now view the attempt of moving to twill as too aggressive a distraction
-- there's enough already changing that we shouldn't add more needlessly.
So, I'm ready to switch back to doing something fixture-based, except for
one question: now that TG2 is using webob, does it follow that it
that was in
there before, feel free to add it back. ;)
And if there's something that it should be doing better, (like taking
form as a keyword param as mentioned in another thread), I'm open to
making those changes too.
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On Jan 23, 2008 10:49 PM, percious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering why
/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11174779
(see Error Handling)
Is TG2 planning on replacing the ErrorDocuments middleware with
WebError?
And how does this affect the plan to switch over to using WebOb?
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I guess we need to pull over the init_model() method, or show people
how to write their own. I origonally was leaning towards write your
own but this is really something we should be providing.
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On Jan 23, 2008 7:58 AM, Luciano G. Panaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for your
On Jan 23, 2008 11:36 PM, Kevin Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are those 2.4 issues the ones related to WebOb exceptions, or are there
others as well?
Same ones. Pylons trunk is failing lots of tests at the moment if
you are on 2.4, and I haven't been able to find a clean way to fix the
error
11:41 PM, percious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this might be a change to the pylons code base.
I am just having a hard time creating validators where the forms are
dynamic... Wonder what I would need that for?
-chris
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Hmm, I need
integration,
but I have to admit to not quite knowing what those changes might be
up-front. I think most of the things suggested below, can be done
without changing the core at all.
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Hi Daniel,
Daniel Fetchinson wrote
, and should hopefully make the core more
stable and easier to understand.
If there is some agreement that this makes sense, I'll go ahead and
create the package when I get my laptop back from the shop (or I break
down and setup a dev environment on this borrowed machine.
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There's been talk about a tg-dev package, which would contain tools
for developing turbogears projects. The thought behind this is
I think it's a good idea.
One possibility as well, is to the make the core not dependent on any
particular ORM, template language, auth* system, etc. But
) adds a single link to the
concatinated-minified file.
But actually haven't used the code at all, that's just the impression
I got from looking at an example someone showed me.
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the tests in this case aren't so much about making sure that TG works
as about preventing us from creating regressions in the template.
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I have updated the DownloadInstall page with the new information.
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TG2 Fans,
Under the Troubleshooting section at:
http://docs.turbogears.org/2.0/RoughDocs/DownloadInstall
there are two problems listed
' is the default stat.
The quickstart css only define 'status_ok' style at this time.
And you could customize the status since it's just a plain text.
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If it does seem like a pain point or you have any other ideas about how
to deal with this, I'm open to doing something about this. I'm not sure
what, but something.
BTW, you can also get the response object with exception.response; on
Python 2.5 .exception and .response both just return
and solve this right than hack something
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For the moment Pylons, and therefore TG2 are not compatable with
Pythin 2.5.
I guess you mean 'not compatible with python 2.4'.
Yes, that's what I should have said. I'm going to sleep now before I
make any more stupid mistakes ;)
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.
Then in March, there will the be PyCon 2008, and we will of course be
having a sprint there too ;)
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On Jan 14, 2008 11:21 AM, percious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like we made some great strides this weekend. When is the next
one?
-chris
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will basically have the month of Febuary to improve the docs, find and
fix bugs, and hopefully be very-well positioned PyCon. Ideally we'll
be able to do a alpha release before PyCon, and then another at the
end of March when all the PyCon sprint activity has been merged in and
tested.
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The current version of the TG2 trunk is not Python 2.4 friendly due to
the fact that Python 2.4 can't use new style classes as exceptions.
And since we finally made everything work with webob (Hooray!!!) I
discoverd this evening that webob's exceptions are all newstyle
classes. :( But feel
Thanks,
I should have pointed people at the download and install page.
And I intended to write a code orientation doc too, but I just ran out
of time last night... :(
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On Jan 12, 2008 4:22 AM, Max Ischenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm here! ;)
The sprint page somehow doesn't
I think one advantage of using types directly is that I'm pretty sure it
will just work with Elixir. Whereas I don't think Elixir has a way of
passing the info tag through.
Another is that we can enforce validation rules at the model level.
But I think we should also fix Elixir to pass along
It works just fine with Elixir - using it in a production app at the moment.
Paul
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stuff for DBSprockets...
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I should have pointed people at the download and install page.
And I intended to write a code orientation doc too, but I just ran out
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. You might have a loo
at it as an example of how things work.
Chris
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Anything else?
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* BTW: How are sprint tickets identified? Is there a special ticket
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that that make sense for us, I'd love to hear about it.
Fell free to update that ticket with suggestions.
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Hello,
On Jan 5, 2008 4:47 AM, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm planning to try to put a bunch of tasks
suggested
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(as you were in TG1). I ended up
copying the current validator and modifying it for my purposes. I
thought having a function which you could pass into the validator was
a reasonable way of handling the miriad of ways a form may be created.
-chris
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the turbogears-trunk mailing list.
There will also be lots of work on Pylons stuff and on other TG2
related projects, and all that stuff is being documented and organized
on the wiki:
http://docs.turbogears.org/SprintOrganization
so, feel free to upate that page with what you are working on.
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. ;)
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On Jan 8, 2008 1:02 AM, Kevin H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This page [1] has an example of using the new Quixote-inspired lookup
features included in TG2. According to the example, the controller
returned by the lookup method is a Controller instance (presumably
from pylons.controllers.core).
to recap (and doublecheck my understanding) here's what I currently am
getting:
1) app-specific config stuff that should be editable by someone deploying
the app should probably go in the [app:main] section of the paste config
2) app-specific config stuff that should NOT be edited by
when needed.
That is a really good thought. And we could probably build some
smarts into the ext.js toscawidget to helm make the transition between
the two even smoother.
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On Jan 7, 2008 3:39 PM, Kevin Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ticket #1651 created.
This brings up my earlier question again (sort of). If there were a config
option similar to tg.include_widgets, where should it live?
I'm afraid I really don't understand the TG2/Pylons config system yet.
out that would be a
great way to participate in the TG2 sprint this weekend. Mike Orr is
going to be participating this weekend, so I expect that this will be
very productive time to get involved.
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library with appropriately wrapped widgets would cater for (2).
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guess by separating the use cases to (1) mostly non-visual ajax
stuff (2) really rich client UI, it is fair to say that mochikit is
great for (1) but not so for (2). The introduction of a blessed JS
library with appropriately wrapped widgets would cater for (2).
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I would actually push for us being JS framework agnostic in
TurboGears 2.0, not including any framework at all, and encouraging
people to use whichever framework they like.
Well, what do we do when we want to provide a large set of
toscawidgets that work well together?
There's already a
On Jan 6, 2008 9:34 PM, Daniel Fetchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In summary, I favor:
* The core of TurboGears having no JavaScript library dependency.
* A TurboGears-extras egg that may bless a single JavaScript library.
- DBMechanic can live here.
- ToscaWidgets can live
on in there so that people can
assign tickets to themselves durring the sprint, and mark their
progress in trac as they go.
As soon as that's in sort-of-ok shape I'll try to look at your
validator stuff, and see if ben will put it into pylons ;)
--Mark Ramm
On Jan 5, 2008 12:32 PM, Alberto Valverde
Make that:
class a(object):
pass
class b(BaseController):
a = a()
and it will work ;)
Yes it works, but then I found 'tg.redirect' function not work
properly with object :p
A proper redirect('list') function in a subcontroller should be
redirected to
a,list(sub
Looks like these were edited on windows at some point.
The ^M characters won't hurt anything in python, but we should
probably run dos2unix on these files ;)
--Mark Ramm
On Jan 5, 2008 10:20 AM, dakila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Just trying out trunk so I did a checkout and installed
can create a couple of generic accounts and
pass out usernames/passwords durring the sprint. Alternatively we
could wait for the sprint days and create logins for people on a
per-user basis.
What do you all think?
--
Mark Ramm-Christensen
email: mark at compoundthinking dot com
blog
It seems like the commit mailing list may have died again... Is
anybody else getting messages from the commit list since december 2?
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Mark Ramm-Christensen
email: mark at compoundthinking dot com
blog: www.compoundthinking.com/blog
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