[jira] Resolved: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-23 Thread Luciano Resende (JIRA)
://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg21946.html Done under revision #568830 Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Edwards
Jean-Sebastien, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: snip Looks like option (B) is the most preferred option with: - one -1 - five +1 - one more spec compliant Do we need more technical discussion? or a new [VOTE] thread to close this issue? Thanks for a great summary. I'm happy with the

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-22 Thread Luciano Resende
Done under revision #568830 On 8/22/07, Mike Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Sebastien, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: snip Looks like option (B) is the most preferred option with: - one -1 - five +1 - one more spec compliant Do we need more technical discussion? or a new

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-21 Thread Luciano Resende
Great summary Sebastien (you were faster then me), looks like option B is the consensus, and I'd like to give it a try so we could still get it to the release branch on the next couple days. Please let me know if anyone has any objections. On 8/21/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread ant elder
On 8/20/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luciano Resende wrote: Sebastien wrote : IMO application developers shouldn't have to suffer from the complexity of XML... How about supporting composites without namespace declarations at all? I'm trying to

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread Venkata Krishnan
+1 for option [B] alone. Given the fact that we are going to rely more on tooling to define composites this shouldn't be a problem. - Venkat On 8/20/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luciano Resende wrote: Sebastien wrote : IMO application developers shouldn't have to

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Ant, just to understand a little better - do you propose we must get our extensions endorsed by the Specs ? - Venkat On 8/20/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luciano Resende wrote: Sebastien wrote : IMO

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread ant elder
Ok sure eventually why not. But I don't think we should wait till that happens before doing [a]. ...ant On 8/20/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ant, just to understand a little better - do you propose we must get our extensions endorsed by the Specs ? - Venkat On

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread Mike Edwards
Folks, In some ways, I'm glad I was on vacation while much of this debate raged!! ;-) Comments below. Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [A] What we have right now, standard SCA extensions and tuscany extensions sharing the standard SCA namespace (B) What IMO is a more correct use of XML

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-20 Thread Simon Nash
-1 for A. This violates the spec. +1 for B. Spec compliant, supports validation, and ensures future proof SCDLs that won't break if Tuscany extension elements are later adopted by the spec group but with subtle differences. -1 for C alone. -0.9 for C if done in addition to B. C doesn't handle

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote: Taking that line of thought and you hit the long thread associated with: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200701.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is what I

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread ant elder
The last comments have been in favour of keeping things as-is so how about just doing nothing and letting this thread die. ...ant On 8/19/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote: On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote:

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread Luciano Resende
Sebastien wrote : IMO application developers shouldn't have to suffer from the complexity of XML... How about supporting composites without namespace declarations at all? I'm trying to understand all the proposals here, what would be the side effects of going with your proposal ? This seems like

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Luciano Resende wrote: Sebastien wrote : IMO application developers shouldn't have to suffer from the complexity of XML... How about supporting composites without namespace declarations at all? I'm trying to understand all the proposals here, what would be the side effects

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread Raymond Feng
:07 PM Subject: Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions Luciano Resende wrote: Sebastien wrote : IMO application developers shouldn't have to suffer from the complexity of XML... How about supporting composites without namespace

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-19 Thread Luciano Resende
namespace declarations. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread Simon Nash
like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread Simon Nash
. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread ant elder
=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] ant elder closed TUSCANY-1053. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: Taking that line of thought and you hit the long thread associated with: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200701.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is what I was hoping to quietly ignore by just keeping everything in the one SCA namespace. ...ant On

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread ant elder
On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote: Taking that line of thought and you hit the long thread associated with: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200701.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is what I was hoping to quietly ignore by

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-03 Thread ant elder
/browse/TUSCANY-1053?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] ant elder closed TUSCANY-1053. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Edwards
a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Improvement

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-02 Thread Luciano Resende
. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL

[jira] Reopened: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-02 Thread Luciano Resende (JIRA)
comments : ...this resolution violates the SCA spec. You are not supposed to go adding stuff to the SCA namespace that is not approved by the SCA spec process. In particular, no additions to the sca.xsd or sca-core.xsd are allowed. Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-02 Thread ant elder
=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel] ant elder closed TUSCANY-1053. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: [jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-08-01 Thread Simon Nash
. -- Resolution: Fixed Closing as it looks like we've standardized on using the SCA namespace Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira

[jira] Closed: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-07-31 Thread ant elder (JIRA)
a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Improvement

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-03-03 Thread Jim Marino (JIRA)
Version/s: (was: Java-SCA-M3) Wish list There hasn't yet been agreement on how best to achieve this. Pushing out for now until there is consensus on a solution. Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-29 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Comments inline. Jeremy Boynes wrote: There are two concrete issues. Firstly, with the XSD for the namespace spread over so many files, how does a user set up a tool to validate an XML document? They can add schemaLocation elements as hints but that is more complex than the separate

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-26 Thread Jeremy Boynes
There are two concrete issues. Firstly, with the XSD for the namespace spread over so many files, how does a user set up a tool to validate an XML document? They can add schemaLocation elements as hints but that is more complex than the separate namespaces. We can produce a single document

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-25 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: The C++ runtime allows bindings and component implementation types to share a common Tuscany namespace and updates to them do not require an update of the Kernel. We simply load the SCDL XSD files out of each

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread ant elder
On 1/24/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: -1 on the single namespace as it couples together all the extensions - we would need to create a new version of the namespace every time any extension changed

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread Rick
Hello, Not XML schema guru but in the assembly spec don't extension fall in XML schemas given under any namespace=##other ... and the ##other imply a namespace other than the sca one ? ant elder wrote: On 1/24/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM,

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Rick wrote: Hello, Not XML schema guru but in the assembly spec don't extension fall in XML schemas given under any namespace=##other ... and the ##other imply a namespace other than the sca one ? Yes, that's what I was referring to. Also implementation

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread Jim Marino
On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:54 AM, ant elder wrote: On 1/24/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: -1 on the single namespace as it couples together all the extensions - we would need to create a new version of

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jim Marino wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:54 AM, ant elder wrote: On 1/24/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: -1 on the single namespace as it couples together all the extensions - we would need to

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-24 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: The C++ runtime allows bindings and component implementation types to share a common Tuscany namespace and updates to them do not require an update of the Kernel. We simply load the SCDL XSD files out of each runtime extension

[jira] Assigned: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-23 Thread ant elder (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] ant elder reassigned TUSCANY-1053: -- Assignee: ant elder Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-23 Thread Jeremy Boynes
? page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] ant elder reassigned TUSCANY-1053: -- Assignee: ant elder Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-23 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
/browse/TUSCANY-1053?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] ant elder reassigned TUSCANY-1053: -- Assignee: ant elder Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

Re: Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-23 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: -1 on the single namespace as it couples together all the extensions - we would need to create a new version of the namespace every time any extension changed its XML I prefer a single Tuscany namespace. This

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino (JIRA)
the programming model, samples, and many test cases. Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-1053) Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions

2007-01-14 Thread ant elder (JIRA)
Use a Tuscany namespace for all non-spec'd Tuscany extensions - Key: TUSCANY-1053 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1053 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Improvement