Re: [Tutor] Python Editors .. which do you reccomend for a amateur?

2007-08-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 04:23 PM 8/4/2007, johnf wrote: I got to put my pitch in for wing. The latest is very good indeed. Yea it cost money but I feel well worth the money. John, Could you tell us what it is about Wing that you like so much? I assume you mean Wing IDE Professional? Have you tried the new version

[Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread jay
Hello, I've been using the python logging module a lot lately, and I've come across an instance where I need some new levels. Specifically, python does not include ALERT and NOTICE in the default set of logging levels. I am wondering how trivial it would be to extend the logging module to

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread Kent Johnson
jay wrote: Hello, I've been using the python logging module a lot lately, and I've come across an instance where I need some new levels. Specifically, python does not include ALERT and NOTICE in the default set of logging levels. I am wondering how trivial it would be to extend the

Re: [Tutor] variable * raw_input

2007-08-09 Thread Eric Brunson
Dewight Kramer wrote: Hello, So i am new to Python, and really to programming. I picked up book and so far I like it. right now I am trying to figure out a problem that I cant. It is a tipping program and I have assigned certain words to be a certain % and then I ask the user to

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread jay
Kent, Thanks for the suggestion. If will look more into your suggestions, and also shoot a post over to comp.lang.python. Jay On 8/9/07, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jay wrote: Hello, I've been using the python logging module a lot lately, and I've come across an instance

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007, Kent Johnson wrote: Bookpool is having a sale on all books from Addison-Wesley and Prentice Hall. In my opinion these are two of the best publishers for top-notch computer titles. I've found bookpool.com to generally have better prices on technical books than Amazon or

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Sean Azelton
Thanks Kent. Can anyone tell me why the below book is listed as S expensive? With the sale Kent mentioned, it looks like a great deal - but unfortunately I don't really know anything about the authors. Object-Oriented Programming in Python Michael H Goldwasser, David Letscher Prentice

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Hansen
-Original Message- From: Bill Campbell Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:54 AM To: tutor@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley I've found bookpool.com to generally have better prices on technical books than Amazon or Powells. They're generally the

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread wormwood_3
Thanks for the heads up! I have been looking to get Core Python Programming for a while now. ___ - Original Message From: Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tutor@python.org Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 6:31:46 PM Subject: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Dick Moores
I always first check BestBookDeal.com. http://www.bestbookdeal.com/ Dick Moores ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Sean Azelton
Oh - I didn't mean Bookpool was too expensive - they are almost half the price of Amazon on this book. for clarification - I was wondering why the Object-Oriented Programming in Python book lists for $102.00 US when most books list for half that price. Sean On 8/9/07, Sean Azelton [EMAIL

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread taserian
I think it's intended to be a collegiate-level textbook, and not a find-a-copy-at-your-local-bookstore type of book. Textbooks are considerably more expensive. Tony R. On 8/9/07, Sean Azelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh - I didn't mean Bookpool was too expensive - they are almost half the

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread jay
I have a working solution for this, based largely on what Kent posted. Thought I would post it for others in case your either curious, or need to do this in the future. There are probably other ways to do this. To add a new level NOTICE for logging to syslog # Change the default levels to

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread wesley chun
On 8/9/07, taserian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's intended to be a collegiate-level textbook, and not a find-a-copy-at-your-local-bookstore type of book. Textbooks are considerably more expensive. On 8/9/07, Sean Azelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh - I didn't mean Bookpool was too

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread Kent Johnson
jay wrote: I have a working solution for this, based largely on what Kent posted. Thought I would post it for others in case your either curious, or need to do this in the future. There are probably other ways to do this. To add a new level NOTICE for logging to syslog # Change

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, On 8/9/07, Sean Azelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me why the below book is listed as S expensive? It might be a textbook? Textbooks are always expensive. With the sale Kent mentioned, it looks like a great deal - but unfortunately I don't really know anything

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread Kent Johnson
jay wrote: I have a working solution for this, based largely on what Kent posted. Thought I would post it for others in case your either curious, or need to do this in the future. There are probably other ways to do this. It works quite nicely, though its a lot of repeated code if you

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Sean Azelton
Yes - collegiate text book does make sense. I certainly do remember how expensive mine were! For my part I think I'll stick with your book Wesley, and Mark Lutz's book (since I already have that one). Thanks! Sean On 8/9/07, wesley chun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/9/07, taserian [EMAIL

Re: [Tutor] Extending logging module

2007-08-09 Thread jay
Nice! I will have to test this On 8/9/07, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jay wrote: I have a working solution for this, based largely on what Kent posted. Thought I would post it for others in case your either curious, or need to do this in the future. There are probably other

[Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Dick Moores
(I posted this to the python-list 24 hours ago, and didn't get a single response. How about you guys?) The only debugging I've done so far is to put in print statements where I want to see what's happening. But it's often through a glass darkly. However, I just discovered that my excellent (IMO)

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread wesley chun
On 8/9/07, Sean Azelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - collegiate text book does make sense. I certainly do remember how expensive mine were! For my part I think I'll stick with your book Wesley, and Mark Lutz's book (since I already have that one). that's great! :-) of course, i should

Re: [Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Dick Moores wrote: (I posted this to the python-list 24 hours ago, and didn't get a single response. How about you guys?) You mean this list? Cause if you mean this list, then you didn't post it correctly. The only debugging I've done so far is to put in print statements where I want to

Re: [Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Tiger12506
Dick Moores wrote: (I posted this to the python-list 24 hours ago, and didn't get a single response. How about you guys?) You mean this list? Cause if you mean this list, then you didn't post it correctly. I don't believe he did. There are seperate python-lists, comp.lang.python, one

Re: [Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Kent Johnson
Dick Moores wrote: However, I just discovered that my excellent (IMO) Python editor, Ulipad, comes with WinPdb, and I'm thinking it's about time I learned how to use a debugger. But first, could I get some reviews here of WinPdb before I invest a lot of time in learning it? I've used

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Alan Gauld
Sean Azelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Object-Oriented Programming in Python Michael H Goldwasser, David Letscher Prentice Hall List Price: $102.00 cough! How much? Our Price: $55.95 Still expensive but within the realms of reality. Estimated Publication Date November 2007, 700

Re: [Tutor] httplib exceptions

2007-08-09 Thread Bob Larsen
Both Systems are Linux, In fact both are REd Hat Based, The Web Server is Fedora (I'm Not sure which version that particular server is running) and my workstation is running CentOS 5. I am sure that both are running an ext3 file system. Of Course there isn't a file there is just the web

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Randy Pearson
Does this book fully integrate 2.4/2.5 language and module additions? The first Python book I read presented core elements from a list-tuple-dictionary perspective. Now that there are Sets, and an array module, I'm interested in a presentation that incorporates those. The help topics are fine,

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Alan Gauld
bhaaluu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote It might be a textbook? Textbooks are always expensive. You can tell I went to a Scottish university: most of my textbooks were under $20, some under $10... And anything over that was bought at the student's union thrift-stall, second hand! :-) Alan G.

Re: [Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 03:00 PM 8/9/2007, you wrote: Dick Moores wrote: (I posted this to the python-list 24 hours ago, and didn't get a single response. How about you guys?) You mean this list? Cause if you mean this list, then you didn't post it correctly. I don't believe he did. There are seperate

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread wesley chun
Does this book fully integrate 2.4/2.5 language and module additions? yes, and even some minor stuff that's guaranteed to be in 2.6, i.e., as and with become keywords, the continued extinction of string exceptions, the continuing migration towards absolute and relative importing, etc. here is

Re: [Tutor] WinPdb?

2007-08-09 Thread Alan Gauld
Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote The only debugging I've done so far is to put in print statements where I want to see what's happening. Thats OK for basic stuff but for complex things you can wind up with an awful lot of printing going on! However, I just discovered that my excellent

Re: [Tutor] need futher explaining

2007-08-09 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
bhaaluu wrote: Greetings, I'm also a beginner to Python, but I think I can answer your question. One of the best ways to learn about how anything in Python works is to use the Python interactive interpreter, so, away we go (follow along, please): names = ['anne', 'beth', 'george',

Re: [Tutor] Bookpool sale on Addison Wesley

2007-08-09 Thread Randy Pearson
Yes, helps very much in conveying your philosophy and approach. I have a decent OO background from a few other languages, and this your approach sounds very appealing. Consider the book ordered s! -- Randy -Original Message- hope this helps! -- wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -