Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread John Edwards
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote:
 About a year and a half before @midnight premiered, I went to a pilot
 taping of a potential Comedy Central midnight show that was Paul F.
 Tompkins hosting comedians in a roundtable discussion about the day's
 pop-culture news -- it was excellent, and I definitely wouldn't mind
 seeing CC going back to that (assuming PFT is available).

How would that be different from what Politically Incorrect used to
be, or Chelsea Handler's soon-to-be former show?

John

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[TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread Jon Delfin
http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread PGage
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/


Again, I am not sure how good the kind of sense displayed here really is.
If Les had not been thinking hard about who would replace Dave when his
contract was up next year he would have been an idiot. If Dave had resigned
for 2 or 3 more years after his current contract expired it would have been
very unusual. We have seen zero evidence that CBS in any way pressured or
even wanted Dave to not extend.

I think it is much more likely that when Dave signed his last extension he
told Les something like let's see how I am feeling when this one is over,
but let's face it, this will probably be my last contract. And Les
probably told Dave something like: We want you behind that desk as long as
you want to be there, but given that you will probably retire in 2015, I
will start thinking about and planning for your replacement. Give me a
head's up when you are sure and I will get ready for a smooth transition.
I also think it is likely that when Dave called Les and told him this was
it, Les probably said We are thinking of going with Colbert, what do you
think? and Dave said Good thinking, he's going to do great!!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread Jon Delfin
Perhaps, before I sent More on Colbert, I should have shared this:
http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/movin/


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:24 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/


 Again, I am not sure how good the kind of sense displayed here really is.
 If Les had not been thinking hard about who would replace Dave when his
 contract was up next year he would have been an idiot. If Dave had resigned
 for 2 or 3 more years after his current contract expired it would have been
 very unusual. We have seen zero evidence that CBS in any way pressured or
 even wanted Dave to not extend.

 I think it is much more likely that when Dave signed his last extension he
 told Les something like let's see how I am feeling when this one is over,
 but let's face it, this will probably be my last contract. And Les
 probably told Dave something like: We want you behind that desk as long as
 you want to be there, but given that you will probably retire in 2015, I
 will start thinking about and planning for your replacement. Give me a
 head's up when you are sure and I will get ready for a smooth transition.
 I also think it is likely that when Dave called Les and told him this was
 it, Les probably said We are thinking of going with Colbert, what do you
 think? and Dave said Good thinking, he's going to do great!!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread David Bruggeman
I'll simply add to this that Colbert is also off next week.  





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Subject: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier
 


http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread David Lynch
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/


 Again, I am not sure how good the kind of sense displayed here really is.
 If Les had not been thinking hard about who would replace Dave when his
 contract was up next year he would have been an idiot. If Dave had resigned
 for 2 or 3 more years after his current contract expired it would have been
 very unusual. We have seen zero evidence that CBS in any way pressured or
 even wanted Dave to not extend.


My suspicion of how this all went down: Dave had already said that this
contract would be his last and the phone call was just to confirm that he
hadn't changed his mind on it. Colbert and Moonves had already agreed that
he was going to take over, and the week's delay on the announcement was
because the timing caught them off guard and they still had to get the i's
dotted and t's crossed.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread M-D November
Or Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, for that matter - which, if memory 
serves, was the last regularly scheduled program in the 11:30 timeslot 
prior to Colbert.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:31:24 AM UTC-4, John Edwards wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Jim Ellwanger 
 trai...@ellwanger.tvjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  About a year and a half before @midnight premiered, I went to a pilot 
  taping of a potential Comedy Central midnight show that was Paul F. 
  Tompkins hosting comedians in a roundtable discussion about the day's 
  pop-culture news -- it was excellent, and I definitely wouldn't mind 
  seeing CC going back to that (assuming PFT is available). 

 How would that be different from what Politically Incorrect used to 
 be, or Chelsea Handler's soon-to-be former show? 

 John 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread M-D November
Take this with a grain of salt, but earlier on the Today show it came out 
in the discussion of the Letterman/Colbert transition that Colbert had 
timed the expiration of his CC contract to coincide with the end of Dave's 
CBS agreement.  Not sure how much truth there is there, but if true, then 
Colbert has been thinking about this for a while.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 12:15:12 PM UTC-4, djl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jon Delfin jond...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/


 Again, I am not sure how good the kind of sense displayed here really is. 
 If Les had not been thinking hard about who would replace Dave when his 
 contract was up next year he would have been an idiot. If Dave had resigned 
 for 2 or 3 more years after his current contract expired it would have been 
 very unusual. We have seen zero evidence that CBS in any way pressured or 
 even wanted Dave to not extend.


 My suspicion of how this all went down: Dave had already said that this 
 contract would be his last and the phone call was just to confirm that he 
 hadn't changed his mind on it. Colbert and Moonves had already agreed that 
 he was going to take over, and the week's delay on the announcement was 
 because the timing caught them off guard and they still had to get the i's 
 dotted and t's crossed.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread David Bruggeman
I see Chelsea's program as closer to this Paul F. Tompkins show than to either 
Politically Incorrect or Tough Crowd.  That is, the first two programs comment 
about what's on TV, the movies or in music; the latter two comment about items 
in the news and/or politics.

Maybe that's splitting hairs, but that second group would seem closer to TDS, 
and the first group closer to @midnight.


David




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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...
 


Or Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, for that matter - which, if memory serves, 
was the last regularly scheduled program in the 11:30 timeslot prior to Colbert.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:31:24 AM UTC-4, John Edwards wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Jim Ellwanger trai...@ellwanger.tv wrote: 

 About a year and a half before @midnight premiered, I went to a pilot 
 taping of a potential Comedy Central midnight show that was Paul F. 
 Tompkins hosting comedians in a roundtable discussion about the day's 
 pop-culture news -- it was excellent, and I definitely wouldn't mind 
 seeing CC going back to that (assuming PFT is available). 

How would that be different from what Politically Incorrect used to 
be, or Chelsea Handler's soon-to-be former show? 

John 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread Darren Glass
I just want a Judge John Hodgman tv show.  Period.

d


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I see Chelsea's program as closer to this Paul F. Tompkins show than to
 either Politically Incorrect or Tough Crowd.  That is, the first two
 programs comment about what's on TV, the movies or in music; the latter two
 comment about items in the news and/or politics.

 Maybe that's splitting hairs, but that second group would seem closer to
 TDS, and the first group closer to @midnight.

 David

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 *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

 Or Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, for that matter - which, if memory
 serves, was the last regularly scheduled program in the 11:30 timeslot
 prior to Colbert.

 On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:31:24 AM UTC-4, John Edwards wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Jim Ellwanger trai...@ellwanger.tv
 wrote:

  About a year and a half before @midnight premiered, I went to a pilot
  taping of a potential Comedy Central midnight show that was Paul F.
  Tompkins hosting comedians in a roundtable discussion about the day's
  pop-culture news -- it was excellent, and I definitely wouldn't mind
  seeing CC going back to that (assuming PFT is available).

 How would that be different from what Politically Incorrect used to
 be, or Chelsea Handler's soon-to-be former show?

 John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Letterman retiring in 2015, supposedly

2014-04-11 Thread Bob Jersey

Tom Wolper wrote:

 Here's another Aaron Barnhart radio interview (10 minutes):


Wasn't there when I looked...  B 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread Jim Ellwanger
Darren Glass wrote:
 I just want a Judge John Hodgman tv show.  Period.

Only if it also features Bailiff Jesse Shut Your Piehole Thorn.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] good sense from Mark Evanier

2014-04-11 Thread Joe Hass
The only thing I'd change: Les's people had reached out to Steven's people
at some point after Dave and Les had that conversation and said, Would you
find out if Stephen's interested in this. And Stephen's people said, Yes,
Stephen interested in this. And then after Dave's phone call, Les called
Stephen and said You still want it? and Stephen said Yep!


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.newsfromme.com/2014/04/10/colbert/


 Again, I am not sure how good the kind of sense displayed here really is.
 If Les had not been thinking hard about who would replace Dave when his
 contract was up next year he would have been an idiot. If Dave had resigned
 for 2 or 3 more years after his current contract expired it would have been
 very unusual. We have seen zero evidence that CBS in any way pressured or
 even wanted Dave to not extend.

 I think it is much more likely that when Dave signed his last extension he
 told Les something like let's see how I am feeling when this one is over,
 but let's face it, this will probably be my last contract. And Les
 probably told Dave something like: We want you behind that desk as long as
 you want to be there, but given that you will probably retire in 2015, I
 will start thinking about and planning for your replacement. Give me a
 head's up when you are sure and I will get ready for a smooth transition.
 I also think it is likely that when Dave called Les and told him this was
 it, Les probably said We are thinking of going with Colbert, what do you
 think? and Dave said Good thinking, he's going to do great!!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread Greg Diener


On Friday, April 11, 2014 3:00:35 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:

 Or Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, for that matter - which, if memory 
 serves, was the last regularly scheduled program in the 11:30 timeslot 
 prior to Colbert.



I seem to remember Adam Carolla having a show in the Post-Daily Show 
Timeslot prior to Colbert. I remember it being some weird call-in show but 
I struggle to remember what the point of the show was. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread David Bruggeman
Crank Yankers?  Kimmel and Carolla were involved in that, but the calls were 
pranks and everyone was puppets.

David




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On Friday, April 11, 2014 3:00:35 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:
Or Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, for that matter - which, if memory serves, 
was the last regularly scheduled program in the 11:30 timeslot prior to Colbert.




I seem to remember Adam Carolla having a show in the Post-Daily Show Timeslot 
prior to Colbert. I remember it being some weird call-in show but I struggle to 
remember what the point of the show was. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread Ben Scripps
 I seem to remember Adam Carolla having a show in the Post-Daily Show
 Timeslot prior to Colbert. I remember it being some weird call-in show but
 I struggle to remember what the point of the show was.

Too Late with Adam Carolla, a call-in talk show notable for an episode
in which a ridiculously inebriated Steve-O (of Jackass fame) tackled
Carolla and smashed a glass coffee table.  The Wikipedia says it started
at 11:30 in August 2005, but was pushed back to midnight when it failed to
find an audience, and was finally cancelled in November.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's Colbert - or so says this Repor...

2014-04-11 Thread M-D November
I genuinely have no memory of Carrolla's show. So I'll revise my previous 
statement to say that Tough Crowd was the last reasonably-successful show at 
11:30 pre-Colbert.

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