Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I've watched through Tuesday's episode.  I think the more recent episodes are 
less chaotic and better paced than the first couple.  But it is still rough, 
and can drag.

I attended the taping of the 4th episode of the original @midnight, and for a 
first week of a show, I thought it was tightly run.  Hardwick came into the 
show with hosting experience (for whatever you might think of Singled Out as a 
show, it likely improved Hardwick's hosting skills, and had an element of chaos 
to manage).  Hardwick was also not the first host for @midnight, it had been 
developed with a different title and with EP Thomas Lennon ("Reno 911" and 
other things) hosting.

There appears to be few people behind the scenes of after midnight with 
experience from @midnight.  Between that and the strikes hampering production, 
it wouldn't surprise me if there weren't many (or any) test shows or other 
efforts to refine this show before broadcast.
Best,David

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:52:34 AM PST, M-D November 
 wrote:  
 
 I've watched the first two episodes, and honestly, as a fan of the original 
@midnight, I thought they were pretty solid.  I do miss Chris Hardwick's 
command of the game (Tomlinson will get there in time, but it's also possible 
she's not forced to run the show like it's on speed because they have 60 
minutes instead of 30), and I don't know if Tomlinson having control of the 
scoring is a great idea, but these are things that get figured out.  I do wish 
they'd picked a stronger lineup of panelists for the first few shows.
On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:38:39 PM UTC-5 Dave Sikula wrote:

 I've watched three shows: the premiere and the episodes with Tompkins and 
Vayntrub. I've tuned in late for a couple of others and couldn't stand it or 
stay withit (the Doug Benson one was particularly disturbing, since I think his 
constant weed intake may have affected his mental facilities; he seemed almost 
Randy Quaid levels of addled).
Directing this show must be a breeze: show the screen, show the panelist, show 
Tomlinson shouting at camera. Rinse and repeat.
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:16:51 AM PST, Diner  
wrote:  
 
 I've watched three episodes so far: episode 1 (because it was the premiere), 
episode 2 (for Paul F. Tompkins), and episode 4 (for Milana Vayntrub).

And it was a real ordeal. I got tired of the hyped-up energy about 15 minutes 
into the premiere, and I'm not sure how I made it through 3 episodes. Tompkins 
and Vayntrub, as much as I like them, didn't do themselves or the show any 
favors.

Tomlinson wasn't horrible, and I'm sure she'll get better. But she mostly made 
me think "What would Hollywood Squares have been like if Peter Marshall did a 
big fake laugh for every single joke?" She's likable, but she's working really, 
really hard to be likable, and the effort is obvious.

There were two moments on episode 4 that stood out for me. One was a joke 
Tomlinson made along the lines of "We're only here because CBS wants young 
eyeballs." Which is true, of course, and reminded me that maybe the reason I'm 
not crazy about this show is that this show isn't made for me.

The other was the best moment on the episode: when comic Kelsey Cook told a 
story about how she and Tomlinson once attended a male strip show together and 
Tomlinson got freaked out. And she was clearly uncomfortable hearing the story 
again. It was the best part of the show, but it had nothing to do with the game 
- it was basically a talk show story that would have worked equally well on any 
of the other late night network shows. It was the one moment when Tomlinson's 
true personality broke through. I hope there are more moments like this.

As Dave said, if I watch again, it'll be because of the guests. And as Tom 
said, I'll check back in a few months to see how it evolves.


On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75% when 
DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe CBS is 
doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that much though, 
which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in three months, and 
that she would become a hotter property down the road and be cheap at $3 
Million.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s “what 
could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

The ratings are… unremarkable 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their 
acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[M-D November]

I've watched the first two episodes, and honestly, as a fan of the original 
@midnight, I thought they were pretty solid.  I do miss Chris Hardwick's 
command of the game (Tomlinson will get there in time, but it's also 
possible she's not forced to run the show like it's on speed because they 
have 60 minutes instead of 30), and I don't know if Tomlinson having 
control of the scoring is a great idea, but these are things that get 
figured out.  I do wish they'd picked a stronger lineup of panelists for 
the first few shows.

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:38:39 PM UTC-5 Dave Sikula wrote:

> I've watched three shows: the premiere and the episodes with Tompkins and 
> Vayntrub. I've tuned in late for a couple of others and couldn't stand it 
> or stay withit (the Doug Benson one was particularly disturbing, since I 
> think his constant weed intake may have affected his mental facilities; he 
> seemed almost Randy Quaid levels of addled).
>
> Directing this show must be a breeze: show the screen, show the panelist, 
> show Tomlinson shouting at camera. Rinse and repeat.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:16:51 AM PST, Diner  
> wrote: 
>
>
> I've watched three episodes so far: episode 1 (because it was the 
> premiere), episode 2 (for Paul F. Tompkins), and episode 4 (for Milana 
> Vayntrub).
>
> And it was a real ordeal. I got tired of the hyped-up energy about 15 
> minutes into the premiere, and I'm not sure how I made it through 3 
> episodes. Tompkins and Vayntrub, as much as I like them, didn't do 
> themselves or the show any favors.
>
> Tomlinson wasn't horrible, and I'm sure she'll get better. But she mostly 
> made me think "What would Hollywood Squares have been like if Peter 
> Marshall did a big fake laugh for every single joke?" She's likable, but 
> she's working really, really hard to be likable, and the effort is obvious.
>
> There were two moments on episode 4 that stood out for me. One was a joke 
> Tomlinson made along the lines of "We're only here because CBS wants young 
> eyeballs." Which is true, of course, and reminded me that maybe the reason 
> I'm not crazy about this show is that this show isn't made for me.
>
> The other was the best moment on the episode: when comic Kelsey Cook told 
> a story about how she and Tomlinson once attended a male strip show 
> together and Tomlinson got freaked out. And she was clearly uncomfortable 
> hearing the story again. It was the best part of the show, but it had 
> nothing to do with the game - it was basically a talk show story that would 
> have worked equally well on any of the other late night network shows. It 
> was the one moment when Tomlinson's true personality broke through. I hope 
> there are more moments like this.
>
> As Dave said, if I watch again, it'll be because of the guests. And as Tom 
> said, I'll check back in a few months to see how it evolves.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>
> Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75% 
> when DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe 
> CBS is doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that 
> much though, which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in 
> three months, and that she would become a hotter property down the road and 
> be cheap at $3 Million.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s 
> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> The ratings are… unremarkable 
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their 
> acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it, 
> bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a 
> writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with 
> After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or 
> not it’s actually funny.
>
>
> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I 
> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather 
> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm 
> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few 
> hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into 
> things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets 
> it.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Eventually, at least in the US, ION (the current iteration of PAX, 
remember?) will bitch about that...B

Adam Bowie, to Tom Wolper, Jan 25th:

The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s 
“what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”


They could probably just schedule reruns of "NCIS: Anywhere-on-the-planet", 
and they'd probably improve the audience. But I guess that doesn't reach 
*new* audiences. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Dave Sikula]

 I've watched three shows: the premiere and the episodes with Tompkins and 
Vayntrub. I've tuned in late for a couple of others and couldn't stand it or 
stay withit (the Doug Benson one was particularly disturbing, since I think his 
constant weed intake may have affected his mental facilities; he seemed almost 
Randy Quaid levels of addled).
Directing this show must be a breeze: show the screen, show the panelist, show 
Tomlinson shouting at camera. Rinse and repeat.
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:16:51 AM PST, Diner 
 wrote:  
 
 I've watched three episodes so far: episode 1 (because it was the premiere), 
episode 2 (for Paul F. Tompkins), and episode 4 (for Milana Vayntrub).

And it was a real ordeal. I got tired of the hyped-up energy about 15 minutes 
into the premiere, and I'm not sure how I made it through 3 episodes. Tompkins 
and Vayntrub, as much as I like them, didn't do themselves or the show any 
favors.

Tomlinson wasn't horrible, and I'm sure she'll get better. But she mostly made 
me think "What would Hollywood Squares have been like if Peter Marshall did a 
big fake laugh for every single joke?" She's likable, but she's working really, 
really hard to be likable, and the effort is obvious.

There were two moments on episode 4 that stood out for me. One was a joke 
Tomlinson made along the lines of "We're only here because CBS wants young 
eyeballs." Which is true, of course, and reminded me that maybe the reason I'm 
not crazy about this show is that this show isn't made for me.

The other was the best moment on the episode: when comic Kelsey Cook told a 
story about how she and Tomlinson once attended a male strip show together and 
Tomlinson got freaked out. And she was clearly uncomfortable hearing the story 
again. It was the best part of the show, but it had nothing to do with the game 
- it was basically a talk show story that would have worked equally well on any 
of the other late night network shows. It was the one moment when Tomlinson's 
true personality broke through. I hope there are more moments like this.

As Dave said, if I watch again, it'll be because of the guests. And as Tom 
said, I'll check back in a few months to see how it evolves.


On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75% when 
DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe CBS is 
doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that much though, 
which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in three months, and 
that she would become a hotter property down the road and be cheap at $3 
Million.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s “what 
could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

The ratings are… unremarkable 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their 
acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it, 
bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a writer 
under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with After 
Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or not it’s 
actually funny.


I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I don't 
think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather than don't 
work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm just not sure 
you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few hours before 
broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into things that don't 
work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Dave Sikula]

 The answer is, of course, that it costs (relative) peanuts to produce, gives 
the network another hour of ad revenue (even if those ads are for snake oil), 
and does well enough in the ratings.
Quality (or lack thereof) is irrelevant; in that regard, it's not much 
different from the prime-time lineup, with its cookie-cutter procedurals.
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 07:23:51 AM PST, Adam Bowie 
 wrote:  
 
 On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s “what 
could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”

They could probably just schedule reruns of "NCIS: Anywhere-on-the-planet", and 
they'd probably improve the audience. But I guess that doesn't reach *new* 
audiences. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Diner]

I've watched three episodes so far: episode 1 (because it was the 
premiere), episode 2 (for Paul F. Tompkins), and episode 4 (for Milana 
Vayntrub).

And it was a real ordeal. I got tired of the hyped-up energy about 15 
minutes into the premiere, and I'm not sure how I made it through 3 
episodes. Tompkins and Vayntrub, as much as I like them, didn't do 
themselves or the show any favors.

Tomlinson wasn't horrible, and I'm sure she'll get better. But she mostly 
made me think "What would Hollywood Squares have been like if Peter 
Marshall did a big fake laugh for every single joke?" She's likable, but 
she's working really, really hard to be likable, and the effort is obvious.

There were two moments on episode 4 that stood out for me. One was a joke 
Tomlinson made along the lines of "We're only here because CBS wants young 
eyeballs." Which is true, of course, and reminded me that maybe the reason 
I'm not crazy about this show is that this show isn't made for me.

The other was the best moment on the episode: when comic Kelsey Cook told a 
story about how she and Tomlinson once attended a male strip show together 
and Tomlinson got freaked out. And she was clearly uncomfortable hearing 
the story again. It was the best part of the show, but it had nothing to do 
with the game - it was basically a talk show story that would have worked 
equally well on any of the other late night network shows. It was the one 
moment when Tomlinson's true personality broke through. I hope there are 
more moments like this.

As Dave said, if I watch again, it'll be because of the guests. And as Tom 
said, I'll check back in a few months to see how it evolves.


On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75% 
> when DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe 
> CBS is doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that 
> much though, which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in 
> three months, and that she would become a hotter property down the road and 
> be cheap at $3 Million.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s 
>> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> The ratings are… unremarkable 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  
>>> wrote:
>>>

 On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is 
> their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a 
> master 
> of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully 
> throws 
> a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem 
> with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points 
> whether or not it’s actually funny.
>
>
 I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I 
 don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather 
 than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And 
 I'm 
 just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few 
 hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into 
 things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience 
 gets 
 it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Tom Wolper]

Her panels are made up of club comics and podcasters. CBS could be hoping
that one or several of her panel members breaks big and keeps coming back
to do the show.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:51 PM PGage  wrote:

> Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75%
> when DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe
> CBS is doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that
> much though, which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in
> three months, and that she would become a hotter property down the road and
> be cheap at $3 Million.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
>> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The ratings are… unremarkable
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>>

 On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is
> their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master
> of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully 
> throws
> a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem
> with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points
> whether or not it’s actually funny.
>
>
 I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
 don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
 than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
 just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
 hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
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 it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[PGage]

Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75%
when DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe
CBS is doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that
much though, which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in
three months, and that she would become a hotter property down the road and
be cheap at $3 Million.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> The ratings are… unremarkable
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is
 their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master
 of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws
 a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem
 with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points
 whether or not it’s actually funny.


>>> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
>>> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
>>> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
>>> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
>>> hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
>>> things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets
>>> it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Doug Eastick]

i have yet to watch an episode on my TiVo, however I have watched 1-2 clips
on youtube.



On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> The ratings are… unremarkable
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is
 their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master
 of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws
 a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem
 with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points
 whether or not it’s actually funny.


>>> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
>>> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
>>> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
>>> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
>>> hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
>>> things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets
>>> it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Mark Jeffries]

Or they could give it back to the affiliates, which would mean either
infomercials or late news repeats (only 1:35 after the first run) or reruns
of "Comics Unleashed with Byron Allen."

Mark Jeffries
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:23 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
>> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>>
>
> They could probably just schedule reruns of "NCIS:
> Anywhere-on-the-planet", and they'd probably improve the audience. But I
> guess that doesn't reach *new* audiences.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Adam Bowie]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>

They could probably just schedule reruns of "NCIS: Anywhere-on-the-planet",
and they'd probably improve the audience. But I guess that doesn't reach
*new* audiences.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Kevin M.]

They could bring back “Crimetime After Prinetime”!

I’ve told the story before of when “Later with…” stopped production at NBC.
Initially they played reruns of the series. Then, as an experiment, they
put in decades-old reruns of SCTV, only to discover they did as good and
often better than new episodes of Later.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
> “what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> The ratings are… unremarkable
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is
 their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master
 of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws
 a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem
 with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points
 whether or not it’s actually funny.


>>> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
>>> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
>>> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
>>> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
>>> hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
>>> things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets
>>> it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Tom Wolper]

The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s
“what could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> The ratings are… unremarkable
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is
>>> their acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master
>>> of it, bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws
>>> a writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem
>>> with After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points
>>> whether or not it’s actually funny.
>>>
>>>
>> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
>> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
>> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
>> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
>> hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
>> things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets
>> it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Kevin M.]

The ratings are… unremarkable

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/


Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:

>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
>> acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
>> bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a
>> writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with
>> After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or
>> not it’s actually funny.
>>
>>
> I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
> don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
> than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
> just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Adam Bowie]

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
> acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
> bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a
> writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with
> After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or
> not it’s actually funny.
>
>
I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
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it.

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[Tom Wolper]

The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a
writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with
After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or
not it’s actually funny.

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 12:15 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I watched the second episode (mainly because of Tompkins) and got to
> notice three things. One is that it didn't get much better; it really runs
> out of gas after about thirty minutes. Two is that I just don't find
> Tomlinson funny or host material. The third -- and most irritating -- is
> that everyone (especially the host) spends the episode shouting. It becomes
> very unpleasant.
>
> Like I said, I might tune in again, but it'll be strictly depending on the
> guests.
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['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

I watched the second episode (mainly because of Tompkins) and got to notice 
three things. One is that it didn't get much better; it really runs out of 
gas after about thirty minutes. Two is that I just don't find Tomlinson 
funny or host material. The third -- and most irritating -- is that 
everyone (especially the host) spends the episode shouting. It becomes very 
unpleasant.

Like I said, I might tune in again, but it'll be strictly depending on the 
guests.

--Dave Sikula

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Dave Sikula]

 I don't have a full sense of it yet because I ended up dozing through most of 
it, but the thing that mainly struck me was that, if Tomlinson is indeed a 
"comedy superstar," it just shows me how debased both the word "superstar" has 
become and how my general distaste for standup is justified. My goodness; could 
there be more of a non-entity at the lectern here? Hardwick, whom I generally 
like (sorry, Kevin!) at least had energy and personality beyond "the prize is 
my father's approval" (how many times did she use that joke? At least three 
that I heard in my semi-conscious state). 
A show like this needs someone with a potential edge. Tomlinson has all the 
edge of a bowling ball. I'm not surprised that Colbert's people have sanded off 
any possible snags. Despite his distaste for TFG, Colbert feels like a guy who 
wants to make nice with everyone.

 As bland as it is right now, I'd take it over any of the British game shows. I 
find those to be too smug, smarmy, self-congratulatory, and "aren't we clever?" 
for my tastes. (The recent furor over importing Jeopardy was ludicrous to me. 
Imagine being threatened by Jeopardy or saying "it's too hard to understand the 
rules.")

Any future viewings of @M will be strictly dependent on the panelists.
And 60 minutes is way too long. If they have to fill an hour, do two 30s.
--Dave Sikula

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 08:39:43 AM PST, Adam Bowie 
 wrote:  
 
 I've watched a few minutes of this, but I'm not sure I can stomach the entire 
thing. What I would point out about the various British comedy panel shows - 
and we have a lot of them - is that there are a few things in making them good:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[John Edwards]

I liked Tomlinson as a host, and I think she’ll find a rhythm as the show
goes on.

I think it could be a great half-hour show. Unfortunately it’s an hour.

It is better than 10-year-old Byron Allen repeats, so it has that going for
it, which is nice.

John

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> First episode free on YouTube
>
> https://youtu.be/3RI5tgjjwTA?si=Q9xIZx77zPaZU8c4
>
> She’s a better host than the alleged sexual predator who was “cleared” of
> wrongdoing by his own lawyer.
>
> The show is just not geared to me. If you watch any British panel TV show,
> or listen to any British panel radio show, it’s agonizing to endure the
> American equivalent. In the UK the panelists are just there amusing
> themselves, and if the audience happens to laugh, fine. In the US,
> panelists just so desperately want to be loved, like every answer to a
> question should be followed up with a wink to the audience and the words
> “am I right?!” screamed at full volume.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> I got a lot of reading done during the show.
>> Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get me to watch ep #2.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
>>> three panelists.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:
>>>
 She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how
 good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to
 make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be
 herself to attract a good core audience.

 -- David

 On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:

 
 If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
 jokes, so the work will be that much harder.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
 TVorNotTV  wrote:


 They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
 pages.

 I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
 edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
 really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
 and that takes a lot of work.

 Best,
 David

 On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
 jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:


 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
 they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
 but surely they must have made some test shows?

 Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current
 TiVo owners are in this thread?

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

 I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
 I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.

 I have set a TiVo Season Pass.


 /Doug
 eas...@mcd.on.ca

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
 tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert
 last week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough
 that she won't distract from the guests.

 I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"),
 but the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a
 one-off for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll
 be awful (though still better than Byron Allen).

 --Dave Sikula

 On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

 The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts
 on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We
 assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will
 keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:


 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653


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[PGage]

I only mildly enjoyed the original. I didn’t find it as instantly hateable
as most here, but did find it mildly repulsive. As Tom says, some fraction
of the badness is they are still working it out. Tomlinson, who I find
pretty likable outside of this, comes across as stiff and her voice is
grating. I think there is a chance she finds her register and stride and
reaches the mildly enjoyable level. As all have said, there is no chance of
that if they keep it as long as this. Also, I think Tomlinson needs to
develop a little more of an edge with the panelists so she can tease them a
little for clunker jokes. Last thought: give her a screen in her eye line
so she is not constantly looking over her shoulder and away from the
camera/viewer.

If the show gets better someone please post an advisory here. I doubt I
will go out of my way to watch it again without some encouragement.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 11:46 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> As always with new shows it’s going to take time for them to find their
> rhythm and their sweet spots. That said, I don’t know how much better it
> can be. It would certainly be better as a half hour show and they have to
> find panel members who thrive in that format. The show looked to me like a
> social media version of America’s Funniest Videos. That show can go on
> forever because it’s so cheap to make but its writers get burned out by all
> the repetition.
>
> I’ll check in on it again in 3 months to see if they’ve found their
> footing.
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:51 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Colbert has put segments on Youtube, tho I don't think he started till
>> the show had been around a few years... B
>>
>> Adam Bowie, to Kevin M et al, in partJan 17th:
>>
>> I'm not totally sure why this exists in this spot in the schedule.
>> There's no obvious virality to it, and you've got to hope that it's being
>> made for YouTube views as much as linear viewing. Having things in the news
>> to bounce off is good, although obviously limits repeatability, but I think
>> doing multiple editions per week is going to wear quickly.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Based on the first episode, it certainly doesn't need to be an hour.  I'm 
guessing CBS has to fill the hour or give back the other 30 minutes to the 
affiliates

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 07:46:09 AM PST, Kevin M. 
 wrote:  
 
 First episode free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/3RI5tgjjwTA?si=Q9xIZx77zPaZU8c4
She’s a better host than the alleged sexual predator who was “cleared” of 
wrongdoing by his own lawyer. 
The show is just not geared to me. If you watch any British panel TV show, or 
listen to any British panel radio show, it’s agonizing to endure the American 
equivalent. In the UK the panelists are just there amusing themselves, and if 
the audience happens to laugh, fine. In the US, panelists just so desperately 
want to be loved, like every answer to a question should be followed up with a 
wink to the audience and the words “am I right?!” screamed at full volume. 

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:

I got a lot of reading done during the show.Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get 
me to watch ep #2.
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:

I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all three 
panelists.
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:

She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how good the 
writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to make her bland 
to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be herself to attract a 
good core audience. 

-- David

On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:



 If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no jokes, 
so the work will be that much harder.
--Dave Sikula

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via 
TVorNotTV  wrote:  
 
  They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.
I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, 
so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an 
hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a 
lot of work.
Best,David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner 
 wrote:  
 
 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely 
they must have made some test shows?
Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything 
after 1130pm.
I have set a TiVo Season Pass.

/Doug 
eas...@mcd.on.ca
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, 
and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't 
distract from the guests. 
I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the 
examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. 
The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though 
still better than Byron Allen).
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 
16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either 
the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating 
"Comics Unleashed" at that time:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653






  






  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Tom Wolper]

As always with new shows it’s going to take time for them to find their
rhythm and their sweet spots. That said, I don’t know how much better it
can be. It would certainly be better as a half hour show and they have to
find panel members who thrive in that format. The show looked to me like a
social media version of America’s Funniest Videos. That show can go on
forever because it’s so cheap to make but its writers get burned out by all
the repetition.

I’ll check in on it again in 3 months to see if they’ve found their footing.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:51 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Colbert has put segments on Youtube, tho I don't think he started till the
> show had been around a few years... B
>
> Adam Bowie, to Kevin M et al, in partJan 17th:
>
> I'm not totally sure why this exists in this spot in the schedule. There's
> no obvious virality to it, and you've got to hope that it's being made for
> YouTube views as much as linear viewing. Having things in the news to
> bounce off is good, although obviously limits repeatability, but I think
> doing multiple editions per week is going to wear quickly.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Colbert has put segments on Youtube, tho I don't think he started till the 
show had been around a few years... B

Adam Bowie, to Kevin M et al, in partJan 17th:

I'm not totally sure why this exists in this spot in the schedule. There's 
no obvious virality to it, and you've got to hope that it's being made for 
YouTube views as much as linear viewing. Having things in the news to 
bounce off is good, although obviously limits repeatability, but I think 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Adam Bowie]

I've watched a few minutes of this, but I'm not sure I can stomach the
entire thing. What I would point out about the various British comedy panel
shows - and we have a lot of them - is that there are a few things in
making them good:

- They're mostly 30 mins, and not 60 mins. They record for much longer, and
then get ruthlessly edited down to a tight 30 minute show. An episode of
Have I Got News For You or QI might record for getting on for two hours.
And unlike sitcom recordings, they're not repeating scenes with new
dialogue lines. Yes - shorn of ads on YouTube, it's 39 minutes, but I'd
still be looking for a 26 minute version of this with just the best
material.

- These shows usually only record one a week. That's because they' re not
super-easy to do.

- The ideal structure doesn't rely too much on obvious point-scoring
meaning that you can edit around unfunny bits without viewers questioning
how one team's score jumped from x to y for no reason. When I watched some
previous episodes of After Midnight before, I couldn't work out why there
was such an importance placed on point-scoring. It's not Jeopardy. Nobody
really cares! If it's a straight gameshow then of course you want to see a
contestant win some money/kudos/whatever. And with sports you have an
affiliation with one team over another. But honestly, nobody really cares
about the points in a panel show. The only exception to this is if there's
a running joke about one side always losing.

I'm not totally sure why this exists in this spot in the schedule. There's
no obvious virality to it, and you've got to hope that it's being made for
YouTube views as much as linear viewing. Having things in the news to
bounce off is good, although obviously limits repeatability, but I think
doing multiple editions per week is going to wear quickly.


Adam

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 3:46 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> First episode free on YouTube
>
> https://youtu.be/3RI5tgjjwTA?si=Q9xIZx77zPaZU8c4
>
> She’s a better host than the alleged sexual predator who was “cleared” of
> wrongdoing by his own lawyer.
>
> The show is just not geared to me. If you watch any British panel TV show,
> or listen to any British panel radio show, it’s agonizing to endure the
> American equivalent. In the UK the panelists are just there amusing
> themselves, and if the audience happens to laugh, fine. In the US,
> panelists just so desperately want to be loved, like every answer to a
> question should be followed up with a wink to the audience and the words
> “am I right?!” screamed at full volume.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> I got a lot of reading done during the show.
>> Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get me to watch ep #2.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
>>> three panelists.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:
>>>
 She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how
 good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to
 make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be
 herself to attract a good core audience.

 -- David

 On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:

 
 If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
 jokes, so the work will be that much harder.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
 TVorNotTV  wrote:


 They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
 pages.

 I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
 edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
 really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
 and that takes a lot of work.

 Best,
 David

 On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
 jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:


 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
 they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
 but surely they must have made some test shows?

 Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current
 TiVo owners are in this thread?

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

 I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
 I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.

 I have set a TiVo Season Pass.


 /Doug
 eas...@mcd.on.ca

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
 tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert
 last week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough
 that she won't distract from the 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Kevin M.]

First episode free on YouTube

https://youtu.be/3RI5tgjjwTA?si=Q9xIZx77zPaZU8c4

She’s a better host than the alleged sexual predator who was “cleared” of
wrongdoing by his own lawyer.

The show is just not geared to me. If you watch any British panel TV show,
or listen to any British panel radio show, it’s agonizing to endure the
American equivalent. In the UK the panelists are just there amusing
themselves, and if the audience happens to laugh, fine. In the US,
panelists just so desperately want to be loved, like every answer to a
question should be followed up with a wink to the audience and the words
“am I right?!” screamed at full volume.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:57 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:

> I got a lot of reading done during the show.
> Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get me to watch ep #2.
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
>> three panelists.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:
>>
>>> She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how
>>> good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to
>>> make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be
>>> herself to attract a good core audience.
>>>
>>> -- David
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
>>> jokes, so the work will be that much harder.
>>>
>>> --Dave Sikula
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
>>> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
>>> pages.
>>>
>>> I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
>>> edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
>>> really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
>>> and that takes a lot of work.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
>>> jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
>>> they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
>>> but surely they must have made some test shows?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current
>>> TiVo owners are in this thread?
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>>
>>> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
>>> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>>>
>>> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>>>
>>>
>>> /Doug
>>> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last
>>> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that
>>> she won't distract from the guests.
>>>
>>> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but
>>> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off
>>> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful
>>> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>>>
>>> --Dave Sikula
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>>>
>>> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts
>>> on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We
>>> assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will
>>> keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Jon Delfin]

I got a lot of reading done during the show.
Not even Paul F. Tompkins will get me to watch ep #2.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:04 AM Steve Timko  wrote:

> I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
> three panelists.
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:
>
>> She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how good
>> the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to make her
>> bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be herself to
>> attract a good core audience.
>>
>> -- David
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
>> jokes, so the work will be that much harder.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
>> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>>
>>
>> They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
>> pages.
>>
>> I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
>> edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
>> really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
>> and that takes a lot of work.
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
>> jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
>> they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
>> but surely they must have made some test shows?
>>
>> Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current
>> TiVo owners are in this thread?
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>
>> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
>> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>>
>> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>>
>>
>> /Doug
>> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last
>> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that
>> she won't distract from the guests.
>>
>> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but
>> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off
>> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful
>> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>>
>> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts
>> on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We
>> assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will
>> keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Steve Timko]

I couldn't watch it..The forced laughter was horrible. And I liked all
three panelists.

On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 1:31 PM David Risner  wrote:

> She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how good
> the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to make her
> bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be herself to
> attract a good core audience.
>
> -- David
>
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
>
> 
> If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no
> jokes, so the work will be that much harder.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via
> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>
>
> They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook
> pages.
>
> I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick
> edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can
> really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume,
> and that takes a lot of work.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner <
> jmetz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know
> they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before,
> but surely they must have made some test shows?
>
> Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo
> owners are in this thread?
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>
> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>
> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>
>
> /Doug
> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last
> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that
> she won't distract from the guests.
>
> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but
> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off
> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful
> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on
> Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume
> either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep
> repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[David Risner]

She’s one of my favorite comics. I think that it’ll come down to how good the writers are and how much the studio/producers/directors try to make her bland to try to attract the widest audience vs letting her be herself to attract a good core audience. -- DavidOn Jan 13, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Dave Sikula  wrote:
If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no jokes, so the work will be that much harder.--Dave Sikula





On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV  wrote:




They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a lot of work.Best,David





On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner  wrote:



I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely they must have made some test shows?Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo owners are in this thread?On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.I have set a TiVo Season Pass./Doug eas...@mcd.on.caOn Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  wrote:Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't distract from the guests. I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though still better than Byron Allen).--Dave SikulaOn Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653





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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Dave Sikula]

 If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no jokes, 
so the work will be that much harder.
--Dave Sikula

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via 
TVorNotTV  wrote:  
 
  They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.
I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, 
so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an 
hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a 
lot of work.
Best,David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner 
 wrote:  
 
 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely 
they must have made some test shows?
Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything 
after 1130pm.
I have set a TiVo Season Pass.

/Doug 
eas...@mcd.on.ca
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, 
and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't 
distract from the guests. 
I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the 
examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. 
The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though 
still better than Byron Allen).
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 
16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either 
the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating 
"Comics Unleashed" at that time:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653






  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.
I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, 
so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an 
hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a 
lot of work.
Best,David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner 
 wrote:  
 
 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely 
they must have made some test shows?
Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything 
after 1130pm.
I have set a TiVo Season Pass.

/Doug 
eas...@mcd.on.ca
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, 
and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't 
distract from the guests. 
I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the 
examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. 
The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though 
still better than Byron Allen).
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 
16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either 
the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating 
"Comics Unleashed" at that time:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653






  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Jeff Metzner]

I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but 
surely they must have made some test shows?

Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>
> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>
>
> /Doug 
> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last 
>> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that 
>> she won't distract from the guests. 
>>
>> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but 
>> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off 
>> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful 
>> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>>
>>> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts 
>>> on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We 
>>> assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will 
>>> keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Doug Eastick]

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.

I have set a TiVo Season Pass.


/Doug
east...@mcd.on.ca

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last
> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that
> she won't distract from the guests.
>
> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but
> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off
> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful
> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
>> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts
>> on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We
>> assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will
>> keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last 
week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that 
she won't distract from the guests. 

I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but 
the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off 
for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful 
(though still better than Byron Allen).

--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on 
> Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume 
> either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep 
> repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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