Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Steve Timko]

Good New Yorker essay. It takes a while to get going.
Link
<https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/23/how-one-joke-on-roseanne-explains-the-show?mbid=social_twitter>

The ratings have leveled but it's still winning the night.
Link
<http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-final-ratings-april-17-2018/>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:

> "Roseanne" continues to loose viewers, but still wins the night handily.
> Link
> <http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-final-ratings-april-10-2018/>
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Doug Fields  wrote:
>
>>
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>> behalf of Tom Wolper 
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 6, 2018 2:55 PM
>> *To:* TV or not TV
>> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big
>>
>> Okay, now I know this could never happen but let's say Roseanne throws a
>> fit halfway through the season and fires half her writers and the scripts
>> go to shit. Will viewers still keep watching because her character said
>> nice things about Trump?
>>
>> --
>>
>> You mean, in the same manner that people still watch Will & Grace,
>> despite the quality of their scripts, just because their characters say
>> *mean* things about Trump?
>>
>> Yes...I think you could safely make that assumption in Roseanne's case.
>> 😊
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Steve Timko]

"Roseanne" continues to loose viewers, but still wins the night handily.
Link
<http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-final-ratings-april-10-2018/>

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Doug Fields  wrote:

>
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> *To:* TV or not TV
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big
>
> Okay, now I know this could never happen but let's say Roseanne throws a
> fit halfway through the season and fires half her writers and the scripts
> go to shit. Will viewers still keep watching because her character said
> nice things about Trump?
>
> --
>
> You mean, in the same manner that people still watch Will & Grace, despite
> the quality of their scripts, just because their characters say *mean*
> things about Trump?
>
> Yes...I think you could safely make that assumption in Roseanne's case.
> 😊
>
> Doug Fields
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Doug Fields]

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Tom 
Wolper 
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

Okay, now I know this could never happen but let's say Roseanne throws a fit 
halfway through the season and fires half her writers and the scripts go to 
shit. Will viewers still keep watching because her character said nice things 
about Trump?

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You mean, in the same manner that people still watch Will & Grace, despite the 
quality of their scripts, just because their characters say *mean* things about 
Trump?

Yes...I think you could safely make that assumption in Roseanne's case.  😊

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Tom Wolper]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> Barr would be the show’s weak link. While the rest of the cast (except
> DJ?) has worked steadily, Barr has spent most of her time smoking weed on
> her macadamia nut farm in Hawaii.
>
> That’s not a criticism... if anything, I’m envious.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:47 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> I finally watched the first episode. I liked it, but not enough that I
>> watched the second. There were some good jokes. Surprisingly, or maybe not,
>> the weak link in the cast is Roseanne Barr.. Okay, I don't expect her to
>> keep up with John Goodman or Laurie Metcalf. But she wasn't keeping up with
>> Sara Gilbert or some of the kids.
>> I mainly watched to see how they handled Sarah Chalke. It was probably
>> smart casting the original Becky to play the role again, because quite
>> frankly she looks worse for the wear. Chalke still has the Hollywood
>> actress glow.
>> It could be a situation where ratings erode so that by the last episode
>> they have an ordinary number of viewers. But even with a 25 percent drop in
>> the demo they are the 800-pound gorilla of Tuesday night and are showing up
>> in the weekly tally.
>>
>
Okay, now I know this could never happen but let's say Roseanne throws a
fit halfway through the season and fires half her writers and the scripts
go to shit. Will viewers still keep watching because her character said
nice things about Trump?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Kevin M.]

Barr would be the show’s weak link. While the rest of the cast (except DJ?)
has worked steadily, Barr has spent most of her time smoking weed on her
macadamia nut farm in Hawaii.

That’s not a criticism... if anything, I’m envious.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:47 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> I finally watched the first episode. I liked it, but not enough that I
> watched the second. There were some good jokes. Surprisingly, or maybe not,
> the weak link in the cast is Roseanne Barr.. Okay, I don't expect her to
> keep up with John Goodman or Laurie Metcalf. But she wasn't keeping up with
> Sara Gilbert or some of the kids.
> I mainly watched to see how they handled Sarah Chalke. It was probably
> smart casting the original Becky to play the role again, because quite
> frankly she looks worse for the wear. Chalke still has the Hollywood
> actress glow.
> It could be a situation where ratings erode so that by the last episode
> they have an ordinary number of viewers. But even with a 25 percent drop in
> the demo they are the 800-pound gorilla of Tuesday night and are showing up
> in the weekly tally.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:23 AM, PGage  wrote:
>
>> Sorry - I am of a generation where “TV Show” still automatically means on
>> broadcast or cable TV. In the context of what was presented in the linked
>> article on this thread, I am specifically referencing broadcast network TV.
>>
>> You are actually underlining my point - the shows you mention are, I
>> believe, streaming on Netflix and Amazon.
>>
>> The success of Roseanne on ABC offers some hope that broadcast networks
>> will see value in airing sitcoms built around stand up acts (just hopefully
>> new ones, not reboots).
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM Jim Ellwanger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > I would be happier though if we again saw successful hit comics being
>>> given chances to turn their acts intoTV shows.
>>>
>>> How quickly we forget Maria Bamford's "Lady Dynamite" and Tig Notaro's
>>> "One Mississippi."  (Just to name the first two recent examples that came
>>> to mind of comics turning their acts into TV shows.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Steve Timko]

I finally watched the first episode. I liked it, but not enough that I
watched the second. There were some good jokes. Surprisingly, or maybe not,
the weak link in the cast is Roseanne Barr.. Okay, I don't expect her to
keep up with John Goodman or Laurie Metcalf. But she wasn't keeping up with
Sara Gilbert or some of the kids.
I mainly watched to see how they handled Sarah Chalke. It was probably
smart casting the original Becky to play the role again, because quite
frankly she looks worse for the wear. Chalke still has the Hollywood
actress glow.
It could be a situation where ratings erode so that by the last episode
they have an ordinary number of viewers. But even with a 25 percent drop in
the demo they are the 800-pound gorilla of Tuesday night and are showing up
in the weekly tally.


On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:23 AM, PGage  wrote:

> Sorry - I am of a generation where “TV Show” still automatically means on
> broadcast or cable TV. In the context of what was presented in the linked
> article on this thread, I am specifically referencing broadcast network TV.
>
> You are actually underlining my point - the shows you mention are, I
> believe, streaming on Netflix and Amazon.
>
> The success of Roseanne on ABC offers some hope that broadcast networks
> will see value in airing sitcoms built around stand up acts (just hopefully
> new ones, not reboots).
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>> > I would be happier though if we again saw successful hit comics being
>> given chances to turn their acts intoTV shows.
>>
>> How quickly we forget Maria Bamford's "Lady Dynamite" and Tig Notaro's
>> "One Mississippi."  (Just to name the first two recent examples that came
>> to mind of comics turning their acts into TV shows.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[PGage]

Sorry - I am of a generation where “TV Show” still automatically means on
broadcast or cable TV. In the context of what was presented in the linked
article on this thread, I am specifically referencing broadcast network TV.

You are actually underlining my point - the shows you mention are, I
believe, streaming on Netflix and Amazon.

The success of Roseanne on ABC offers some hope that broadcast networks
will see value in airing sitcoms built around stand up acts (just hopefully
new ones, not reboots).

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> > I would be happier though if we again saw successful hit comics being
> given chances to turn their acts intoTV shows.
>
> How quickly we forget Maria Bamford's "Lady Dynamite" and Tig Notaro's
> "One Mississippi."  (Just to name the first two recent examples that came
> to mind of comics turning their acts into TV shows.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

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On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:51 AM PGage  wrote:

> It is a 25% drop in the demo, which is what matters. But regardless, the
> show is a hit, which is good news for those who want to keep seeing sitcoms
> on network TV.
>
> There is Twitter talk of bringing back The Office (mistake). I would be
> happier though if we again saw successful hit comics being given chances to
> turn their acts intoTV shows.
>

I would be happy if the entire entertainment industry (film, TV, and music)
took one entire year off from reboots, franchises, and covers. Give the
public one year of new ideas, new talent, and let the chips fall where they
may.



> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 8:34 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> The NY Times says it's a 16% drop - based on same-day numbers.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/business/media/roseanne-ratings-abc.html
>>
>> (As a ratings nerd, the difference is because you shouldn't compare
>> same-day week 2 numbers with same-day +3 numbers which is how Wk 1 got to
>> 25m.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A 40% drop in one week. Yes, the ratings are good, but that drop is
>>> yoooge.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:56 PM Steve Timko 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "Roseanne" ratings drop, but still huge. Or Yoooge.
 Link
 

 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
 tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Steve Timko, Wed. (3/28):
>>
>> 'Roseanne' reboot opens big with about 18 million viewers
>>
>> [Aypee piece]
>>
>
> Renewal *dang* quickly.
>
> Variety
> 
> (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Jim Ellwanger]

> I would be happier though if we again saw successful hit comics
being given chances to turn their acts intoTV shows.

How quickly we forget Maria Bamford's "Lady Dynamite" and Tig Notaro's
"One Mississippi."  (Just to name the first two recent examples that
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[PGage]

It is a 25% drop in the demo, which is what matters. But regardless, the
show is a hit, which is good news for those who want to keep seeing sitcoms
on network TV.

There is Twitter talk of bringing back The Office (mistake). I would be
happier though if we again saw successful hit comics being given chances to
turn their acts intoTV shows.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 8:34 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> The NY Times says it's a 16% drop - based on same-day numbers.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/business/media/roseanne-ratings-abc.html
>
> (As a ratings nerd, the difference is because you shouldn't compare
> same-day week 2 numbers with same-day +3 numbers which is how Wk 1 got to
> 25m.)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> A 40% drop in one week. Yes, the ratings are good, but that drop is
>> yoooge.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:56 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> "Roseanne" ratings drop, but still huge. Or Yoooge.
>>> Link
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>


 Steve Timko, Wed. (3/28):
>
> 'Roseanne' reboot opens big with about 18 million viewers
>
> [Aypee piece]
>

 Renewal *dang* quickly.

 Variety
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Adam Bowie]

The NY Times says it's a 16% drop - based on same-day numbers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/business/media/roseanne-ratings-abc.html

(As a ratings nerd, the difference is because you shouldn't compare
same-day week 2 numbers with same-day +3 numbers which is how Wk 1 got to
25m.)



On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> A 40% drop in one week. Yes, the ratings are good, but that drop is
> yoooge.
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:56 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> "Roseanne" ratings drop, but still huge. Or Yoooge.
>> Link
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Timko, Wed. (3/28):

 'Roseanne' reboot opens big with about 18 million viewers

 [Aypee piece]

>>>
>>> Renewal *dang* quickly.
>>>
>>> Variety
>>> 
>>> (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Kevin M.]

A 40% drop in one week. Yes, the ratings are good, but that drop is yoooge.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:56 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> "Roseanne" ratings drop, but still huge. Or Yoooge.
> Link
> 
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Steve Timko, Wed. (3/28):
>>>
>>> 'Roseanne' reboot opens big with about 18 million viewers
>>>
>>> [Aypee piece]
>>>
>>
>> Renewal *dang* quickly.
>>
>> Variety
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Roseanne" ratings called big

[Steve Timko]

"Roseanne" ratings drop, but still huge. Or Yoooge.
Link


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>> 'Roseanne' reboot opens big with about 18 million viewers
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>> [Aypee piece]
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