Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Ninjamonk
Have you guys considered maybe tweaking the basic auth system to something like what friendfeed has. Each user could be given a third party system generated key to use instead of a password and then basic auth could still be used and not tired to the system password. If the user felt their

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread jstrellner
I was just thinking this, and then I read your post. It would be good to see a trusted apps section somewhere on your site, and those application could use Basic Auth. If they don't want to go through the process of being a trusted app, then they can use OAuth. Just something to think about.

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Stuart
2009/2/5 jstrellner jstrell...@urltrends.com: I was just thinking this, and then I read your post. It would be good to see a trusted apps section somewhere on your site, and those application could use Basic Auth. If they don't want to go through the process of being a trusted app, then

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Gustavo Melo
Guys, We all know that base-auth is a gold for our app and when we think about another way like OAuth we get mad BUT If the Toke had infinit life time (probabily will do), so the big poblem transform in a little problem with 3 steps: 1-Your Webapp redirect the user to Twitter Web Site

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I was just thinking this, and then I read your post. It would be good to see a trusted apps section somewhere on your site, and those application could use Basic Auth. If they don't want to go through the process of being a trusted app, then they can use OAuth. Something like that would

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Cameron Kaiser
We all know that base-auth is a gold for our app and when we think about another way like OAuth we get mad BUT If the Toke had infinit life time (probabily will do), so the big poblem transform in a little problem with 3 steps: 1-Your Webapp redirect the user to Twitter Web Site

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Payne
I'll keep that in mind as an option, but it's not particularly user-friendly. Basic Auth lets users use the password they know; OAuth keeps users from having to worry about passwords at all. This setup requires users to keep track of some other strange value. Developers understand it, so it's

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Gustavo Melo
So, what happen if this third party expose to others app this generated key? They will acess your account too? If this key can be just used for one app (maybe lock for one IP) the user will need generated always a new key for one app? (Go to twitter page, log in, acess New Keys, generate a new

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Gustavo Melo
Hi Matt, Thx for answer... OAuth isn't hard ;) A couple of days i have learned some about it and put this on my TestApp to see how works. I'm glad to see that You guys worrie about the final user. Let's bring it on... We had just to generate our api_key and secret, and sort all parameters of

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread jstrellner
I am not suggesting that they endorse the application, but that they have a process that is available to desktop apps that lets them keep using Basic Auth. Once twitter has OK'd the app, then that app can display a badge of some sort letting its users know that they have an agreement directly

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread Stuart
2009/2/5 jstrellner jstrell...@urltrends.com: I am not suggesting that they endorse the application, but that they have a process that is available to desktop apps that lets them keep using Basic Auth. Once twitter has OK'd the app, then that app can display a badge of some sort letting its

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread jstrellner
Stuart , In my first reply to this subject, I indicated that it could be a paid model for them, and I still think it could. Either way, I see them needing to use a key of some sort for desktop applications. Twitter would still need to be involved though, if you want to prevent sharing of said

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread James Deville
Flickr doesn't seem to have a problem with the OAuth formula, so why are people thinking twitter will? In addition, part of the concern I would have with Basic Auth is the plaintext password. Sure, it's Base64 encoded, but that's not encryption, that's just saving bandwidth. If twitter wanted to

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread funkatron
On Feb 5, 10:38 pm, James Deville james.devi...@gmail.com wrote: Flickr doesn't seem to have a problem with the OAuth formula, so why are people thinking twitter will? I'm not sure people have said Twitter would have a problem. I've personally expressed some problems specific to applications

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-05 Thread James Deville
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:52 PM, funkatron funkat...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 5, 10:38 pm, James Deville james.devi...@gmail.com wrote: Flickr doesn't seem to have a problem with the OAuth formula, so why are people thinking twitter will? I'm not sure people have said Twitter would have a

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-04 Thread Stuart
2009/2/4 Gustavo Melo pipoc...@gmail.com: We need to understand how OAuth will affect ours app's... Twitter authentication with username and password will totaly stop work? How many days we will have to change our app's? And for me the most important question is, OAuth before copmleted

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-04 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Sorry for chiming in on this late by I have been working with @mrtall on the OAuth code. Your first question about allowing OAuth and Basic Auth to co-exist is one we've covered a few times in this group but it's sort of buried in the documentation [1]. We plan to keep Basic

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-04 Thread funkatron
Agreed. I do believe that the use of HTTP Basic Auth was key to the quick growth of the 3rd-party app community of Twitter, as the auth scheme is so well-understood and supported. This may or may not be as important at this point business-wise, as I suspect the Twitter userbase is large enough to

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-04 Thread Alex Payne
Thanks for the feedback, guys. We'll consider extending Basic Auth's life, or maybe granting a stay of execution to known-good apps. At the very least, we'll try not to pull the rug out from under anyone. funkatron wrote: Agreed. I do believe that the use of HTTP Basic Auth was key to the

Re: How API will works after OAuth?

2009-02-04 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Thanks for the feedback, guys. We'll consider extending Basic Auth's life, or maybe granting a stay of execution to known-good apps. At the very least, we'll try not to pull the rug out from under anyone. I appreciate the consideration. :) -- personal: