[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Neil Ellis


Wow now I get spammed by people arguing about spam - and I'm now  
adding to that spam - oh the irony!


;-)

Seriously though I've received more unwanted emails arguing about  
product announcements then I get product announcements - not sure  
where the harm in a one off product announcement was anyway.


Peace, as they say, Neil.

On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:35, Joel Strellner wrote:



I think its fine as long as it is done only once for the app and the
user interacts here more than just for purpose of telling people about
the new app.

On Jul 14, 10:19 am, Chad Etzel  wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Badera  
wrote:
When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock  
this
garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I  
don't need

it coming into my inbox via the dev list.


I thought one of the purposes of the list was to promote/announce  
your

new apps when they go live so that other devs are aware of new stuff
coming out.

Whether you like the app or not is up to you...

-Chad




[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Strellner

I think its fine as long as it is done only once for the app and the
user interacts here more than just for purpose of telling people about
the new app.

On Jul 14, 10:19 am, Chad Etzel  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
> > When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock this
> > garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I don't need
> > it coming into my inbox via the dev list.
>
> I thought one of the purposes of the list was to promote/announce your
> new apps when they go live so that other devs are aware of new stuff
> coming out.
>
> Whether you like the app or not is up to you...
>
> -Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Clint Shryock  wrote:

> The thread I recall about not announcing your apps here was more of a
> "don't announce your app here if you want to keep it private / low key".  If
> I recall correctly the specific developer(s) was unhappy that someone had
> blogged about a particular app that wasn't full and ready but had been
> mentioned here.
> I think new app announcements are fine, especially in this case, it was
> done in a non-spammy manner.
>
>
>> Most reasonably professional lists have a policy of no self promotion...
>
> please cite 3 examples.
>
> +Clint
>

Not that I think there'd be much difficulty in doing so, I a) have better
things to do and b) have no time or energy to get into a pointless pissing
match. Go show me 300 that don't. Who cares? It's common enough, whether
it's 50% or 85%.


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Clint Shryock
The thread I recall about not announcing your apps here was more of a "don't
announce your app here if you want to keep it private / low key".  If I
recall correctly the specific developer(s) was unhappy that someone had
blogged about a particular app that wasn't full and ready but had been
mentioned here.
I think new app announcements are fine, especially in this case, it was done
in a non-spammy manner.


> Most reasonably professional lists have a policy of no self promotion...

please cite 3 examples.

+Clint


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure it's been stated in the past that this is not the place
> to
> > advertise your apps. Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly.
>
> I don't remember that at all... if you can find it in the archives
> then I'll shut up about it.
>
> I personally like seeing new app announcements here b/c it means one
> less place I have to monitor, and I like seeing what new/innovative
> things are being built. It's also a good way to hear about potential
> competition or see that someone has done an idea that you might have
> had, but now don't have to waste your time building it.
>
> I think this is a very appropriate place for those emails. Devs work
> hard to build stuff; we should be able to tell other devs about our
> work when it's ready :)
>
> You can create a filter to auto-delete "new app" emails if you hate
> them that much.
>
> Anyone else feel strongly one way or the other?
>
> -Chad
>


Most reasonably professional lists have a policy of no self promotion unless
you're tactfully answering someone else's question. Let's have a simple,
separate app announcement list if you really need to be emailed about that,
but let's keep the dev list on-topic and on-task. Some of us are here for
the tech, not for the shiny stuff.


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Etzel

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's been stated in the past that this is not the place to
> advertise your apps. Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly.

I don't remember that at all... if you can find it in the archives
then I'll shut up about it.

I personally like seeing new app announcements here b/c it means one
less place I have to monitor, and I like seeing what new/innovative
things are being built. It's also a good way to hear about potential
competition or see that someone has done an idea that you might have
had, but now don't have to waste your time building it.

I think this is a very appropriate place for those emails. Devs work
hard to build stuff; we should be able to tell other devs about our
work when it's ready :)

You can create a filter to auto-delete "new app" emails if you hate
them that much.

Anyone else feel strongly one way or the other?

-Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
> > When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock this
> > garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I don't
> need
> > it coming into my inbox via the dev list.
>
> I thought one of the purposes of the list was to promote/announce your
> new apps when they go live so that other devs are aware of new stuff
> coming out.
>
> Whether you like the app or not is up to you...
>
> -Chad
>

I'm pretty sure it's been stated in the past that this is not the place to
advertise your apps. Maybe I'm recalling incorrectly.

This is a tech list, not an advertisement list. It's noisy enough as it is.
If people want to announce their apps, they should do it elsewhere.


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Vinayak Joshi

Chad +1

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Chad Etzel wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
>> When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock this
>> garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I don't need
>> it coming into my inbox via the dev list.
>
> I thought one of the purposes of the list was to promote/announce your
> new apps when they go live so that other devs are aware of new stuff
> coming out.
>
> Whether you like the app or not is up to you...
>
> -Chad
>


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Etzel

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Badera wrote:
> When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock this
> garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I don't need
> it coming into my inbox via the dev list.

I thought one of the purposes of the list was to promote/announce your
new apps when they go live so that other devs are aware of new stuff
coming out.

Whether you like the app or not is up to you...

-Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: New app: twivert.com

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Vignesh  wrote:

>
> I have just finished creating a new app URL: http://www.twivert.com
> It is a ad network for twitter.com.
> I have used the twitter API for python
> I have used blueprint css for style , jquery for javascript. If anyone
> is interested please visit the site and post your comments...
>


When did this dev list become a self-promotion list? Can we knock this
garbage off already? I get enough spam ON Twitter these days, I don't need
it coming into my inbox via the dev list.

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