Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Hello, I wonder where can I find the windows vista x64 hotfix for RAD Studio 2007 crash / blue screen prevention? I googled but there does not seem to be an index for hot fixes at microsoft.com! :( Best Regards, SZ On 11/14/07, Hoby Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are probably correct, at least to some degree. However, I have found > that there are a number of Vista bugs that are exacerbated by different > applications, though the apps aren't actually the root of them. > > Specifically, there appears to a number of bugs in the Vista core dlls > that > are used by 3rd party apps, such as virus software, where the flaw is not > the fault of the 3rd party app, but it doesn't occur until you have the > 3rd > party app. Very frustrating. For example, I have the CA Security Suite > and > had to download a Microsoft Vista hot fix due to a flaw in Vista that > caused > a number of apps (such as IE) to perform very poorly or come to a stop, > due > to the CA firewall encountering some packet filter bug. Oddly, my wife's > laptop that has Vista Home and Student had no problem with it, while my > laptop with Vista Business did. Ugghhh!! Also, there are known issues > with > one of the CodeGear studios if you have a logitech web cam driver > installed. > Go figure?!?!? > > Don't get me wrong, I have really liked Vista (to my surprise). And the > UAC > popups don't bother me at all, as they are just like some Linux desktops > for > acquiring root privileges for various admin funcs, and Linux seems to be > more secure as a result (and other things of course). I guess end users > might be annoyed by them, but they are probably exactly what I want for > constraining admin functions. > > Evidently, one of the goals of Vista was to next gen some older > technologies, such as the TCP/IP stack. I have come across some > complaints > that the new auto-adjusting TCP/IP window functionality has had issues > with > some routers and some software. That is obviously to be expected when > releasing next generation features. > > Anyway, the point is that, as I understand it, Vista contains a large > number > of OS enhancements that can be severely affected by unsupported software, > particularly in the debugger arena. While I get that the OS shouldn't > allow > the lock up to occur, Vista may not be sufficiently aware of these > scenarios > yet. It appears that Service Pack 1 that will be out next year should fix > a > large number of them, such as VERY POOR PERFORMANCE when copying files > over > a network from or to non-Vista machines. It appears from what I have seen > that a large number of admins have moved back to XP often, due to these > types of issues. > > Ooops... Sorry for the long OT post... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Time Bandit > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:44 PM > To: ICS support mailing > Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi > > On Nov 13, 2007 3:23 PM, Hoby Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, installing is no problem. However, running is a problem. It > > installs with no problem. It runs really unstable, crashes constantly > and > > sometimes even locks Vista up. Yikes! > > If it locks up Vista, the problem is not in the program but in the OS > in my opinion. > > No application should be capable of locking a properly implemented OS. > > But, my opinion is probably based on experience with OS other than > Microsoft's one. > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
You are probably correct, at least to some degree. However, I have found that there are a number of Vista bugs that are exacerbated by different applications, though the apps aren't actually the root of them. Specifically, there appears to a number of bugs in the Vista core dlls that are used by 3rd party apps, such as virus software, where the flaw is not the fault of the 3rd party app, but it doesn't occur until you have the 3rd party app. Very frustrating. For example, I have the CA Security Suite and had to download a Microsoft Vista hot fix due to a flaw in Vista that caused a number of apps (such as IE) to perform very poorly or come to a stop, due to the CA firewall encountering some packet filter bug. Oddly, my wife's laptop that has Vista Home and Student had no problem with it, while my laptop with Vista Business did. Ugghhh!! Also, there are known issues with one of the CodeGear studios if you have a logitech web cam driver installed. Go figure?!?!? Don't get me wrong, I have really liked Vista (to my surprise). And the UAC popups don't bother me at all, as they are just like some Linux desktops for acquiring root privileges for various admin funcs, and Linux seems to be more secure as a result (and other things of course). I guess end users might be annoyed by them, but they are probably exactly what I want for constraining admin functions. Evidently, one of the goals of Vista was to next gen some older technologies, such as the TCP/IP stack. I have come across some complaints that the new auto-adjusting TCP/IP window functionality has had issues with some routers and some software. That is obviously to be expected when releasing next generation features. Anyway, the point is that, as I understand it, Vista contains a large number of OS enhancements that can be severely affected by unsupported software, particularly in the debugger arena. While I get that the OS shouldn't allow the lock up to occur, Vista may not be sufficiently aware of these scenarios yet. It appears that Service Pack 1 that will be out next year should fix a large number of them, such as VERY POOR PERFORMANCE when copying files over a network from or to non-Vista machines. It appears from what I have seen that a large number of admins have moved back to XP often, due to these types of issues. Ooops... Sorry for the long OT post... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Time Bandit Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:44 PM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi On Nov 13, 2007 3:23 PM, Hoby Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, installing is no problem. However, running is a problem. It > installs with no problem. It runs really unstable, crashes constantly and > sometimes even locks Vista up. Yikes! If it locks up Vista, the problem is not in the program but in the OS in my opinion. No application should be capable of locking a properly implemented OS. But, my opinion is probably based on experience with OS other than Microsoft's one. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
On Nov 13, 2007 3:23 PM, Hoby Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, installing is no problem. However, running is a problem. It > installs with no problem. It runs really unstable, crashes constantly and > sometimes even locks Vista up. Yikes! If it locks up Vista, the problem is not in the program but in the OS in my opinion. No application should be capable of locking a properly implemented OS. But, my opinion is probably based on experience with OS other than Microsoft's one. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Actually, installing is no problem. However, running is a problem. It installs with no problem. It runs really unstable, crashes constantly and sometimes even locks Vista up. Yikes! I have heard of people using D7 with no problem. But even Borland says that 2006 is not certified to work with Vista, which means don't do it, I imagine. BTW, the procedures you mention don't help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arno Garrels Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:43 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi Dod wrote: > Hello Hoby, > > I use the "good old" Delphi 2007 on Vista ...fine... And I installed both "good old" Delphi 7 as well as Delphi 2007 on Vista. Though my day to day box still remains W2K so I haven't used one of those installs for working on real products yet. Should be no problem to install 2006 on Vista as well. Either turn off UAC or run the BDS-Process as Admin, also turn off hardware DEP. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Thanks, but no it doesn't. I also added rights to standard user account for appropriate subdirectories (bin, ObjResp). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dod Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:09 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi Hello Hoby, Try to run BDS EXE "as admin", do it help ? HS> Great document! Thanks! Great timing for me, too. I have been working the HS> last several days on trying to come up to speed on some Vista development HS> issues and that was a great help. HS> BTW, since you brought it up... ;) Can I ask a related question? If it is HS> OT, then perhaps you can direct me to a better place to ask it? HS> I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) HS> and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. I have tried all HS> the approaches I have found on line, but it is just really unstable and HS> often locks up Vista when I close BDS!!! It really surprises me that BDS can HS> lock up Vista?!?!? HS> Am I correct in assuming that my ONLY solution is to move to Delphi 2007 or HS> RAD studio 2007? If anyone knows sometime more than me about trying to run HS> 2006 STABLY on Vista, I would love to know it. All the web references help HS> a bit, but not much. Since I just discovered that CodeGear's stance is that HS> 2006 is not certified for Vista, I assume that means my ONLY choice is to HS> move to a CodeGear 2007 product of some type. HS> Oh well, ANOTHER product I have to buy THANKS to Microsoft. :( Ya know, HS> this development habit is really getting expensive... ;) HS> -Original Message- HS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On HS> Behalf Of Francois PIETTE HS> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:40 AM HS> To: twsocket@elists.org HS> Subject: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi HS> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: HS> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp HS> t HS> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html HS> -- HS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] HS> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare HS> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) HS> http://www.overbyte.be HS> -- HS> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list HS> please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket HS> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Dod wrote: > Hello Hoby, > > I use the "good old" Delphi 2007 on Vista ...fine... And I installed both "good old" Delphi 7 as well as Delphi 2007 on Vista. Though my day to day box still remains W2K so I haven't used one of those installs for working on real products yet. Should be no problem to install 2006 on Vista as well. Either turn off UAC or run the BDS-Process as Admin, also turn off hardware DEP. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Hello Hoby, Sorry don't have the URL : UltraVnc Vista support.htm -> not delphi related but nice because they had to deal with some big problems and they explain how they fixed them. Creating Windows Vista Ready Applications with Delphi.htm What's in the Oven Leveraging Vista's UAC with Delphi Part 2.htm What's in the Oven Leveraging Vista's UAC with Delphi Part 3.htm HS> Can you supply references to the white papers you mentioned? HS> -Original Message- HS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On HS> Behalf Of Dod HS> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:29 AM HS> To: ICS support mailing HS> Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi HS> Hello Francois, HS> I also found two or three white papers about it (and yours also), it HS> is very important to read them if people want to make their HS> application Vista compliant (and compatible). HS> It took me 3 months last year to understand thoses "new" features that HS> broke my applications. HS> regards. FP>> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: FP>> HS> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp HS> t FP>> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html FP>> -- FP>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FP>> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare FP>> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) FP>> http://www.overbyte.be HS> -- HS> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list HS> please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket HS> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Wow... I hadn't thought of that... Interesting suggestion... Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:59 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi From: "Hoby Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) > and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. Why not run it in a virtual machine? Load up a VM with XP, install BDS 2006 and there ya go... Woody (TMW) -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Hello Hoby, Try to run BDS EXE "as admin", do it help ? HS> Great document! Thanks! Great timing for me, too. I have been working the HS> last several days on trying to come up to speed on some Vista development HS> issues and that was a great help. HS> BTW, since you brought it up... ;) Can I ask a related question? If it is HS> OT, then perhaps you can direct me to a better place to ask it? HS> I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) HS> and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. I have tried all HS> the approaches I have found on line, but it is just really unstable and HS> often locks up Vista when I close BDS!!! It really surprises me that BDS can HS> lock up Vista?!?!? HS> Am I correct in assuming that my ONLY solution is to move to Delphi 2007 or HS> RAD studio 2007? If anyone knows sometime more than me about trying to run HS> 2006 STABLY on Vista, I would love to know it. All the web references help HS> a bit, but not much. Since I just discovered that CodeGear's stance is that HS> 2006 is not certified for Vista, I assume that means my ONLY choice is to HS> move to a CodeGear 2007 product of some type. HS> Oh well, ANOTHER product I have to buy THANKS to Microsoft. :( Ya know, HS> this development habit is really getting expensive... ;) HS> -Original Message- HS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On HS> Behalf Of Francois PIETTE HS> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:40 AM HS> To: twsocket@elists.org HS> Subject: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi HS> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: HS> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp HS> t HS> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html HS> -- HS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] HS> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare HS> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) HS> http://www.overbyte.be HS> -- HS> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list HS> please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket HS> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Hello Hoby, I use the "good old" Delphi 2007 on Vista ...fine... HS> Great document! Thanks! Great timing for me, too. I have been working the HS> last several days on trying to come up to speed on some Vista development HS> issues and that was a great help. HS> BTW, since you brought it up... ;) Can I ask a related question? If it is HS> OT, then perhaps you can direct me to a better place to ask it? HS> I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) HS> and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. I have tried all HS> the approaches I have found on line, but it is just really unstable and HS> often locks up Vista when I close BDS!!! It really surprises me that BDS can HS> lock up Vista?!?!? HS> Am I correct in assuming that my ONLY solution is to move to Delphi 2007 or HS> RAD studio 2007? If anyone knows sometime more than me about trying to run HS> 2006 STABLY on Vista, I would love to know it. All the web references help HS> a bit, but not much. Since I just discovered that CodeGear's stance is that HS> 2006 is not certified for Vista, I assume that means my ONLY choice is to HS> move to a CodeGear 2007 product of some type. HS> Oh well, ANOTHER product I have to buy THANKS to Microsoft. :( Ya know, HS> this development habit is really getting expensive... ;) HS> -Original Message- HS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On HS> Behalf Of Francois PIETTE HS> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:40 AM HS> To: twsocket@elists.org HS> Subject: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi HS> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: HS> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp HS> t HS> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html HS> -- HS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] HS> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare HS> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) HS> http://www.overbyte.be HS> -- HS> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list HS> please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket HS> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
From: "Hoby Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) > and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. Why not run it in a virtual machine? Load up a VM with XP, install BDS 2006 and there ya go... Woody (TMW) -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Can you supply references to the white papers you mentioned? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dod Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:29 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi Hello Francois, I also found two or three white papers about it (and yours also), it is very important to read them if people want to make their application Vista compliant (and compatible). It took me 3 months last year to understand thoses "new" features that broke my applications. regards. FP> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: FP> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp t FP> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html FP> -- FP> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FP> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare FP> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) FP> http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Great document! Thanks! Great timing for me, too. I have been working the last several days on trying to come up to speed on some Vista development issues and that was a great help. BTW, since you brought it up... ;) Can I ask a related question? If it is OT, then perhaps you can direct me to a better place to ask it? I have just got a new Vista Laptop (since you can't get anything else now) and am having the worst time trying to run BDS 2006 on it. I have tried all the approaches I have found on line, but it is just really unstable and often locks up Vista when I close BDS!!! It really surprises me that BDS can lock up Vista?!?!? Am I correct in assuming that my ONLY solution is to move to Delphi 2007 or RAD studio 2007? If anyone knows sometime more than me about trying to run 2006 STABLY on Vista, I would love to know it. All the web references help a bit, but not much. Since I just discovered that CodeGear's stance is that 2006 is not certified for Vista, I assume that means my ONLY choice is to move to a CodeGear 2007 product of some type. Oh well, ANOTHER product I have to buy THANKS to Microsoft. :( Ya know, this development habit is really getting expensive... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francois PIETTE Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:40 AM To: twsocket@elists.org Subject: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.pp t Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Hello Francois, I also found two or three white papers about it (and yours also), it is very important to read them if people want to make their application Vista compliant (and compatible). It took me 3 months last year to understand thoses "new" features that broke my applications. regards. FP> Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: FP> http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.ppt FP> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html FP> -- FP> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FP> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare FP> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) FP> http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
[twsocket] [OT] Writing Vista applications using Delphi
Altough out of topic, I found this document very interesting: http://bdntv.borland.com/pix/fhaglund/VistaUACandDelphi/VistaUACandDelphi.ppt Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
