Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-11 Thread Francois Piette
> Thanks for all your help, guys.  Yes that makes a lot of sense.  I didn't
> realise CWD only changed directory RELATIVE to the current directory.

Not exactly. CWD change directorie according to what you pass as argument.
If you pass an absolute directory, so does it change.
If you pass a relative directory, it change accordingly !

As I said in one of my previous messages, when you lon onto a FTP server,
you are not in the "root directory", you are in the "home directory" which
may or may not be the same as the root directory. Use PWD to know where you
are logged in.


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From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Thanks for all your help, guys.  Yes that makes a lot of sense.  I didn't
> realise CWD only changed directory RELATIVE to the current directory.
>
> I've tried adding a '/' to the start of the path, but that didn't work.
> I've also tried a '\', but that didn't work either.  Whats the easiest way
> of changing to the root (or rather, the HOME) directory? I did previously
> write a loop where it would CDUP as long as there were a certain number of
> '\'s left in the current directory but I scrapped that...
>
> And thanks again for all your help, this is more support than I've ever
> gotten for ANY product I've used
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-11 Thread DZ-Jay

On Oct 11, 2006, at 03:15, rick cusimano wrote:

> Thanks for all your help, guys.  Yes that makes a lot of sense.  I 
> didn't
> realise CWD only changed directory RELATIVE to the current directory.
>
> I've tried adding a '/' to the start of the path, but that didn't work.
> I've also tried a '\', but that didn't work either.

That's because your paths were already relative to another directory.

>   Whats the easiest way
> of changing to the root (or rather, the HOME) directory? I did 
> previously
> write a loop where it would CDUP as long as there were a certain 
> number of
> '\'s left in the current directory but I scrapped that...

Without viewing your code, I don't know how you are constructing your 
paths, but ideally you always want to know where you are in the 
hierarchy at any time.  If you do, then you don't really need to go 
back to the root after every file operation.  In any case, you should 
be able to go back to the root by issuing CWD('/').

 From what I understand, you want to download all the files in the 
server, and you are building a list of files to give to a second 
process that will download them.  Is this second process traversing the 
directories to download the files, or just using GET with the full path 
of each file without changing directories?

If it is just GETting the files from where it is, then you must ensure 
that each filepath you store is either absolute from the root, or 
relative to the home directory (which could be different, as Francois 
pointed out).

dZ.

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-11 Thread rick cusimano
Thanks for all your help, guys.  Yes that makes a lot of sense.  I didn't 
realise CWD only changed directory RELATIVE to the current directory.

I've tried adding a '/' to the start of the path, but that didn't work.  
I've also tried a '\', but that didn't work either.  Whats the easiest way 
of changing to the root (or rather, the HOME) directory? I did previously 
write a loop where it would CDUP as long as there were a certain number of 
'\'s left in the current directory but I scrapped that...

And thanks again for all your help, this is more support than I've ever 
gotten for ANY product I've used

Rick


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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Francois PIETTE
Warning: The root directory is not necessary the directory where you are 
when you log into the ftp server which is the "home directory". Home 
directory and root directory may be the same, but not always.

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>
>> So you should first change the working directory
>> to the "root" path and then try the second CWD
>> command with the "a\b\c\d" HostDirName ...
>
> No, that would require an extre round-trip.  As
> others have pointed out, you should use "absolute"
> paths by starting all your paths with a '/' (or '\'
> in the case of Windows).  If a path does not start
> with the directory separator, the server will
> interpret it as a path relative to the current directory.
>
> Since you seem to be dropping the connection whenever
> your CWD fails (unnecessary, really), the next time
> that you re-connect it'll start again in the top
> directory, and so that's why re-trying the same
> directory after failing worked.
>
> -dZ.
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> So you should first change the working directory
> to the "root" path and then try the second CWD 
> command with the "a\b\c\d" HostDirName ...

No, that would require an extre round-trip.  As
others have pointed out, you should use "absolute"
paths by starting all your paths with a '/' (or '\'
in the case of Windows).  If a path does not start
with the directory separator, the server will
interpret it as a path relative to the current directory.

Since you seem to be dropping the connection whenever
your CWD fails (unnecessary, really), the next time
that you re-connect it'll start again in the top
directory, and so that's why re-trying the same
directory after failing worked.

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Marcelo Grossi
Hi,

Isn't CWD command supposed to work from the directory you are in?

Example:

> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // No Failure

I think this doesn't fail because the directory "1" is placed inside the 
current working directory. Wich does not happen in the second CWD:

> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path specified.

Where the directory "a" is not inside the directory "3" wich is the current 
working directory (after the successfull first CWD). So you should first 
change the working directory to the "root" path and then try the second CWD 
command with the "a\b\c\d" HostDirName ...

I'm shooting in the dark here, for I don't use FTPs much and never used the 
ICS FTP Client, but it's worth a try ...

Regards,

Marcelo Grossi

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From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...


> Hello,
>
> Thanks for pointing out that I can retrieve the last response from the
> server, I didn't realise Cwd results came just as a response and not as an
> event.
>
> Ok so this is what happens:
>
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
>
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path specified.
>
>
> But when I reverse the order of the directories:
>
>
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
>
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 1\2\3\ : The system cannot find the path specified.
>
>
> The path obviously exists.  This error only seems to occur with 
> directories
> 3 or more levels deep, and  happens regardless of which server I test it 
> on.
>
> Like I said previously the following code seems to fix this problem some 
> of
> the time:
>
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>Connect;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>Cwd;
>  end;
>
> Can anyone suggest anything else I could try?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Gunnar
Hi,

Current dir is "\"
 
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // No Failure

of course

> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path specified.

Haha, no surprise. The server is now looking for \1\2\3\a\b\c\d, and that 
porbably doesn't exist.
Set hostdirname to \a\b\c\d and it will probably work.

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Francois PIETTE
You are using relative paths and so the oerder is very important.
If you cwd to 'a\b\c\d\' and then to '1\2\3\' it is the same as doing a cwd 
to 'a\b\c\d\1\2\3\' at the first place.
If you first cwd to '1\2\3\' and then to 'a\b\c\d\', then is is the same to 
do at once a cwd to '1\2\3\a\b\c\d\'.
All those path a relative to the current directory, including the one you 
have when starting the connection (use pwd to know the current directory).


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- Original Message - 
From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...


> Hello,
>
> Thanks for pointing out that I can retrieve the last response from the
> server, I didn't realise Cwd results came just as a response and not as an
> event.
>
> Ok so this is what happens:
>
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
>
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path specified.
>
>
> But when I reverse the order of the directories:
>
>
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
>
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 1\2\3\ : The system cannot find the path specified.
>
>
> The path obviously exists.  This error only seems to occur with 
> directories
> 3 or more levels deep, and  happens regardless of which server I test it 
> on.
>
> Like I said previously the following code seems to fix this problem some 
> of
> the time:
>
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>Connect;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>Cwd;
>  end;
>
> Can anyone suggest anything else I could try?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Gies,Brad

Send code examples. 

My guess is that you are in directoy 1\2\3 and then attempting to CWD to
a\b\c\d without returning to the parent directory first, so that you are
really trying to change to directory 1\2\3\a\b\c\d without realizing it.



Sincerely,

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> Behalf Of rick cusimano
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: twsocket@elists.org
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for pointing out that I can retrieve the last response from the
> server, I didn't realise Cwd results came just as a response and not
as an
> event.
> 
> Ok so this is what happens:
> 
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
> 
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path
specified.
> 
> 
> But when I reverse the order of the directories:
> 
> 
> HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
> Cwd; // No Failure
> 
> HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
> Cwd; // ERROR: 550 1\2\3\ : The system cannot find the path specified.
> 
> 
> The path obviously exists.  This error only seems to occur with
> directories
> 3 or more levels deep, and  happens regardless of which server I test
it
> on.
> 
> Like I said previously the following code seems to fix this problem
some
> of
> the time:
> 
> if not(Cwd) then
>   begin
> Quit;
> Connect;
> HostDirName := SubDir;
> Cwd;
>   end;
> 
> Can anyone suggest anything else I could try?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread rick cusimano
Hello,

Thanks for pointing out that I can retrieve the last response from the 
server, I didn't realise Cwd results came just as a response and not as an 
event.

Ok so this is what happens:

HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
Cwd; // No Failure

HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
Cwd; // ERROR: 550 a\b\c\d\ : The system cannot find the path specified.


But when I reverse the order of the directories:


HostDirName = 'a\b\c\d\';
Cwd; // No Failure

HostDirName = '1\2\3\';
Cwd; // ERROR: 550 1\2\3\ : The system cannot find the path specified.


The path obviously exists.  This error only seems to occur with directories 
3 or more levels deep, and  happens regardless of which server I test it on.

Like I said previously the following code seems to fix this problem some of 
the time:

if not(Cwd) then
  begin
Quit;
Connect;
HostDirName := SubDir;
Cwd;
  end;

Can anyone suggest anything else I could try?

Cheers

Rick


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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-10 Thread Francois Piette
> I was asked to check what error is bought up but unfortunately the
FTPClient
> component doesn't generate an error via the OnError event (though it does
> for other things so I know I'm checking it right).

It is likely an error at the application level, that is sent by the FTP
server. PLEASE record all messages exchanged between your client and the
server, just like the FtpTst demo does. This will surely show the problem.
Without it, I surely can't help more.

> Could anyone suggest a resolution or a better way to debug what's going
on?

Trace all messages

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- Original Message - 
From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...


> As requested I've done some more testing with this, however I'm not
getting
> any closer.
>
> Just to reiterate, I'm trying to do a recursive download from an FTP
Server
> to basically do a full backup.  It works fine most of the time, but
> occasionally the Cwd command fails to change directory causing files to be
> downloaded in the wrong place.
>
> I was asked to check what error is bought up but unfortunately the
FTPClient
> component doesn't generate an error via the OnError event (though it does
> for other things so I know I'm checking it right).
>
> There is no permissions problem - using the same username/password I can
> download everything via other FTP programs.  The only error I get is that
> Cwd = false.
>
> I managed to trace the problem down to a simple test which fails every
time
> - there seems to be a bug when changing between directories that are 3 or
4
> layers deep i.e.
>
> Changing from '1/2/3/' to 'a/b/c/d' causes Cwd to fail.  This happens
> regardless of which server I try it on and in which order I try to
download
> the directories.
>
> Like I said in a previous email, with the following alteration the program
> works much better, but still fails on some directories:
>
> if not(Cwd) then
>   begin
> Quit;
> Connect;
> HostDirName := SubDir;
> Cwd;
>   end;
>
> Could anyone suggest a resolution or a better way to debug what's going
on?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-09 Thread Arno Garrels
rick cusimano wrote:

> Could anyone suggest a resolution or a better way to debug what's
> going on? 

If you do not provide the error number as well as the error text,
how should anybody know what's going on?
When CWD failes log FtpClient1.LastResponse as well as 
FtpClient1.ErrorMessage.  

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-09 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Just to reiterate, I'm trying to do a recursive download from an 
> FTP Server to basically do a full backup.  It works fine most of 
> the time, but occasionally the Cwd command fails to change 
> directory causing files to be downloaded in the wrong place.

Try using my File Transfer Components that include all the directory 
recursion as standard.  You don't have to install the components to test 
them, there is an EXE demo that will do it.  

http://www.magsys.co.uk/delphi/magxfer.asp

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-09 Thread rick cusimano
As requested I've done some more testing with this, however I'm not getting 
any closer.

Just to reiterate, I'm trying to do a recursive download from an FTP Server 
to basically do a full backup.  It works fine most of the time, but 
occasionally the Cwd command fails to change directory causing files to be 
downloaded in the wrong place.

I was asked to check what error is bought up but unfortunately the FTPClient 
component doesn't generate an error via the OnError event (though it does 
for other things so I know I'm checking it right).

There is no permissions problem - using the same username/password I can 
download everything via other FTP programs.  The only error I get is that 
Cwd = false.

I managed to trace the problem down to a simple test which fails every time 
- there seems to be a bug when changing between directories that are 3 or 4 
layers deep i.e.

Changing from '1/2/3/' to 'a/b/c/d' causes Cwd to fail.  This happens 
regardless of which server I try it on and in which order I try to download 
the directories.

Like I said in a previous email, with the following alteration the program 
works much better, but still fails on some directories:

if not(Cwd) then
  begin
Quit;
Connect;
HostDirName := SubDir;
Cwd;
  end;

Could anyone suggest a resolution or a better way to debug what's going on?

Cheers

Rick


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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread Francois PIETTE
> Just to clarify, these are directories that I KNOW exist - I'm doing a
> recursive download from an FTP site.  How would you recommend I recover 
> from
> a failed CWD command?

I can't recommand anything before knowing the exact error.

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread Gunnar
> Just to clarify, these are directories that I KNOW exist - I'm doing a
> recursive download from an FTP site.  How would you recommend I recover from
> a failed CWD command?

That doesn't mean that you are allowed to access these directories. If CWD 
fails, there's a reason for that, usually on 
server side Then from client side there is nothing you can do to "recover", you 
can just skip the directory - and 
complain at the server's admin ...

-gunnar 

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread rick cusimano
I'm not sure, but the code I posted up seems to work?

I had an issue where, basically, a CWD command would fail when changing 
between directories that are 3 or 4 layers deep.  For some reason the code I 
posted works most of the time (don't ask me why), but like I said it still 
occasionally fails.

Just to clarify, these are directories that I KNOW exist - I'm doing a 
recursive download from an FTP site.  How would you recommend I recover from 
a failed CWD command?

Cheers

Rick

Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 13:03:20 +0200
From: "Gunnar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...
To: "ICS support mailing" 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Rick,

if CWD fails, why do you expect it could work if you just try it again?

-gunnar
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

Hi,

I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some 
servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to whoever 
pointed that out btw)

I've been trying to change the code to test for this and I thought I had it 
cracked, but its still not quite right.

This is the code which seems to work best so far, but it still occasionally 
fails:

if not(Cwd) then
begin
   Quit;
   Connect;
   HostDirName := SubDir;
   Cwd;
end;

This is part of a function which retrieves a file listing, which is then 
passed onto another function which attempts to download each file.  I also 
tried the following code, which I thought made more sense:

if not(Cwd) then
begin
   Quit;
   HostDirName := SubDir;
   if not(Connect) then exit;
end;

With the intention being that if after 2 attempts you still can't get a file 
listing, just skip it.  Unfortunately this seemed to make it go completely 
mental so it must be doing something odd.

Any suggestions please?

Cheers

Rick


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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread Francois PIETTE
> I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some
> servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to whoever
> pointed that out btw)

What is the error returned by the server or the component ?
Knowing the error would help solving the problem.

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- Original Message - 
From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...


> Hi,
>
> I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some
> servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to whoever
> pointed that out btw)
>
> I've been trying to change the code to test for this and I thought I had 
> it
> cracked, but its still not quite right.
>
> This is the code which seems to work best so far, but it still 
> occasionally
> fails:
>
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>Connect;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>Cwd;
>  end;
>
> This is part of a function which retrieves a file listing, which is then
> passed onto another function which attempts to download each file.  I also
> tried the following code, which I thought made more sense:
>
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>if not(Connect) then exit;
>  end;
>
> With the intention being that if after 2 attempts you still can't get a 
> file
> listing, just skip it.  Unfortunately this seemed to make it go completely
> mental so it must be doing something odd.
>
> Any suggestions please?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread DZ-Jay

On Oct 8, 2006, at 06:42, rick cusimano wrote:

> I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some
> servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to 
> whoever
> pointed that out btw)

Perhaps its a permission issue? If so, you won't be able to change to 
that directory regardless of how many times you try.

dZ.

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Re: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread Gunnar
Rick,

if CWD fails, why do you expect it could work if you just try it again?

-gunnar
- Original Message - 
From: "rick cusimano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: [twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...


> Hi,
> 
> I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some 
> servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to whoever 
> pointed that out btw)
> 
> I've been trying to change the code to test for this and I thought I had it 
> cracked, but its still not quite right.
> 
> This is the code which seems to work best so far, but it still occasionally 
> fails:
> 
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>Connect;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>Cwd;
>  end;
> 
> This is part of a function which retrieves a file listing, which is then 
> passed onto another function which attempts to download each file.  I also 
> tried the following code, which I thought made more sense:
> 
> if not(Cwd) then
>  begin
>Quit;
>HostDirName := SubDir;
>if not(Connect) then exit;
>  end;
> 
> With the intention being that if after 2 attempts you still can't get a file 
> listing, just skip it.  Unfortunately this seemed to make it go completely 
> mental so it must be doing something odd.
> 
> Any suggestions please?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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[twsocket] How to handle a failed CWD with FTPClient...

2006-10-08 Thread rick cusimano
Hi,

I've been having some issues with FTPClient where sometimes, on some 
servers, it would fail to change the working directory (thanks to whoever 
pointed that out btw)

I've been trying to change the code to test for this and I thought I had it 
cracked, but its still not quite right.

This is the code which seems to work best so far, but it still occasionally 
fails:

if not(Cwd) then
  begin
Quit;
Connect;
HostDirName := SubDir;
Cwd;
  end;

This is part of a function which retrieves a file listing, which is then 
passed onto another function which attempts to download each file.  I also 
tried the following code, which I thought made more sense:

if not(Cwd) then
  begin
Quit;
HostDirName := SubDir;
if not(Connect) then exit;
  end;

With the intention being that if after 2 attempts you still can't get a file 
listing, just skip it.  Unfortunately this seemed to make it go completely 
mental so it must be doing something odd.

Any suggestions please?

Cheers

Rick


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