Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread David Wolverton
NOTE that WorkGroup and Enterprise have DeviceLicensing BAKED IN -- but that you can AUTHORIZE these (at least on UniData) with ZERO Device Licenses, and it will do so, with a tiny message at the bottom of the screen that you are 'authorizing below your limits' -- we had sites that never had Device

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>>A session is a open telnet / uniobjects session. >>OPEN is the key word (as in active open in use) :-) >>It's just like you have now, but a single MAC / IP address is allowed >>multiple sessions up to X to combine into 1 license. >>I think Enterprise edition already has the 10 device. >>It w

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread Shawn Hayes
Thank you Dawn, exactly what I was looking for! Too bad InterSystems feels they cannot use it - I didn't know that.  NoSQL, YesNoSQL, NotOnlySQL, or whatever name 'they' come up with that best represents the idea that is still forming has been fun.  I will keep my eye on this Thanks Again..

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Harbeson
A session is a open telnet / uniobjects session. OPEN is the key word (as in active open in use) :-) It's just like you have now, but a single MAC / IP address is allowed multiple sessions up to X to combine into 1 license. I think Enterprise edition already has the 10 device. It would be nice

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>>Based on the IP -- so 6 connections (Sessions) from a single IP that is >>3-device licensed will indeed use 4 'licenses' (seats) - 1 for the first 3, >>then one for each over 3. >>DW I understand. Thanks. And thanks to all. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation __

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread David Wolverton
Based on the IP -- so 6 connections (Sessions) from a single IP that is 3-device licensed will indeed use 4 'licenses' (seats) - 1 for the first 3, then one for each over 3. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On B

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 10/22/2010 6:16:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dw...@tincat-group.com writes: > I decided the best of these was YesNoSQL, so on a whim I just acquired > yesnosql.com. If anyone wants yesnosql.org or .net, act fast because they > are still available -- hey, we could start a sub-w

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>>But that device license limit is PER SESSION... >>So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One >>for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every >>other user is just using one seat. >>SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users ne

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread David Wolverton
But that device license limit is PER SESSION... So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every other user is just using one seat. SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users needed 2 or 3

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>>No - device licenses are across ALL seats -- hence the reason our server >>customer chose fewer than 10! So for example, if you have a few users that use several sessions then it would be more cost effective to buy for example 3 seats. Most users would only use 1, but the power users would us

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread David Wolverton
No - device licenses are across ALL seats -- hence the reason our server customer chose fewer than 10! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:36

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>>I think that is correct -- you have to 'buy' device licensing additionally >>if you have 'Server' licenses. In that case, you can 'pick' how many device >>seats you want to add on per IP address - 10 is not the only answer - we >>have sites with 3 or 5 since it was an 'add on' cost against the

Re: [U2] Licensing

2010-10-22 Thread David Wolverton
I think that is correct -- you have to 'buy' device licensing additionally if you have 'Server' licenses. In that case, you can 'pick' how many device seats you want to add on per IP address - 10 is not the only answer - we have sites with 3 or 5 since it was an 'add on' cost against the Server li

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I missed the "not" in "is not at all fleshed out" On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: > Hi Shawn -- > You can see Curt Monash's response to my comment on this page > > http://www.dbms2.com/2010/08/18/nosql-hvsp-adoption/ > >

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Hi Shawn -- You can see Curt Monash's response to my comment on this page http://www.dbms2.com/2010/08/18/nosql-hvsp-adoption/ His rationale is at all fleshed out, as you can see. As for the definition, this is really a "marketing term" more

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread Steve Romanow
On 10/21/2010 3:05 PM, Symeon Breen wrote: I think this has been a big driving force in the nosql movement - massive databases with high avail and high transactions are very common these days, To do these types of systems in oracle or sql server would require rooms of servers and complex archite

Re: [U2] NoSQL

2010-10-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 10/21/2010 12:46:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes: > One reason for this is that many MV > developers have never actually created a full/complex database, > only small extensions to existing enviroments, themselves often > created by people who didn