RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread David Jordan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Craig: Your right. I think you can get a webshare site license for $15,000 - $20,000

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Andy Pflueger
. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Craig

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Craig Bennett
the licenses appropriately. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Craig

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-26 Thread Bill H.
, 2005 8:11 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} [snipped] RedBack does more than provide a pooling mechanism it also handles scheduling, performance monitoring, status and other facilities one would require

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread Aherne, John
, then MySQL, Ingres, or Postgre are all reliable open source db's. JohnA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Key Ally Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series]

2005-04-25 Thread Craig Bennett
Leroy, I'm not trying to be obtuse here (and I don't mean to make you suffer, but I really think there is a contradiction between the technology and your licensing requirements). How do you decide when I have an application talking via MQ and when I am multiplexing a user-interactive

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread Craig Bennett
Bill, If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at $1,500 per webshare retail! my understanding is that each webshare can service 20-25 users and once you buy a certain number of webshares (my memory says 11, but I could be wrong) you are treated as having an unlimited number of

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-25 Thread David Jordan
Of Craig Bennett Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified} Bill, If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at $1,500 per webshare retail! my understanding is that each

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-23 Thread Key Ally
SQL Server fans, To be fair, UniVerse and UniData aren't just Datastores, they are environments. SQL Server is a starting point. So, if you want to buy SQL server, and buy or freeware a programing language, and buy or freeware a scripting language, and buy or freeware an editor, etc... then

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Cliff Bennett
Millions (plural) of DB requests per day will require serious infrastructure regardless of middleware platform. Plus there's always the last-day-of-quarter discount with IBM. 8-) With SQL Server, you also need one or two CAL's (Client Access Licenses) per named user (not concurrent). Plus I

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series]

2005-04-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/22/2005 7:29:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if you use MQ like a connection pool, that is not desirable performance-wise, and is a breach of your license agreement. But if you use it for applications to communicate (which is the purpose of

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series]

2005-04-22 Thread Richard Taylor
LeRoy, Perhaps I don't fully understand your example, but I don't see the distinction here. If I have a webpage that sends a request to the U2 database (via any method mentioned in this thread) and waits for it's response then goes on with it's own life each web site vistor would only be using

RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Bill H.
Cliff: With SQL Server, you also need one or two CAL's (Client Access Licenses) per named user (not concurrent). Plus I believe the more full-featured server versions are more expensive on the server side. A quick look on Google and you'll find an SQL Server Enterprise for $2,000 -

Re: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

2005-04-22 Thread Dave S
What is the definition of a webshare ? Cliff Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Millions (plural) of DB requests per day will require serious infrastructure regardless of middleware platform. Plus there's always the last-day-of-quarter discount with IBM. 8-) With SQL Server, you also need one or

[Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series]

2005-04-21 Thread Craig Bennett
Since the process can only wait for messages one queue at a time, it is assumed that if multiple message queues are used, multiple phantom processes may be required, thus consuming additional licenses. But multiple mq processes can listen to the same queue, so you can run 10 phantoms listening to