Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-26 Thread Dave Laansma
- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Laansma Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:59 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question Unless you know the keys to the records you're selecting, even the EXECUTE "SEL

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/10/11 00:23, Steve Romanow wrote: > I reread my post and meant no disrespect Wols. I shouldnt post replies > without considering twice. No worries Steve. I shoot from the hip sometimes too - it can be embarrassing :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mai

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Romanow
I reread my post and meant no disrespect Wols. I shouldnt post replies without considering twice. On Oct 25, 2011 7:00 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote: > On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote: > > I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using > > indexed fields, SELECT is definitely n

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Romanow
Consider a sparse file. I have seen where a execute select is faster so I counter your AlwaysFaster claim. Like the previous poster said, it will always be fastest to start, but not always first to complete. On Oct 25, 2011 7:00 PM, "Wols Lists" wrote: > On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote:

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote: > I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using > indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. > SELECT *is* faster. Because it does far less work! EXECUTE SELECT needs to read the entire file to create a select list. SELECT

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wjhonson
: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question RetrieVe will use an index if it can, regardless of the order of the election criteria (& if not select list is already active). etrieVe will now do intersections of index reults if 2 indexed election criteria are specified. 'm not sure when or how good it

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wjhonson
ng it, in any manner like the way the records are layed on the disk. That causes thrashing. -Original Message- From: Steve Romanow To: U2 Users List Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question But you are potentially reducing your input set for the 2nd crite

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles Stevenson
benefit of the index is washed out. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question True on UV, too. Compare

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Romanow
But you are potentially reducing your input set for the 2nd criteria by a large margin correct? I've never considered alt key + non-indexed usage to create disk thrash. When you select on an alternate key index, you are reading the file, but (in Udt at least) an X_myfile binary file. So you are

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles Stevenson
nson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question True on UV, too. Compare output of these using EXPLAIN keyword: LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = "soemthing" EXPLAIN LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = "soemthing" EXPLAIN NO.INDEX

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wjhonson
Yes yes and no. If you execute a SSELECT on an indexed field, and don't specify NO.INDEX and do NOT refer at all to any other fields in the file, then index does NOT read the record to see if it even actually exists. It just retrieves the list of keys from the index. If you specific a SSELEC

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Romanow
the benefit of the index is washed > out. > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles > Stevenson > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:39 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2]

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Woodward, Bob
Add a second selection criteria and the benefit of the index is washed out. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles Stevenson
True on UV, too. Compare output of these using EXPLAIN keyword: LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = "soemthing" EXPLAIN LIST FILE WITH indexed_field = "soemthing" EXPLAIN NO.INDEX Or forget EXPLAIN, but do it with a large file and notice the speed differnce. On 10/25/2011 4:29 PM, charles_shaf..

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Woodward, Bob
ll find it's pretty darn close with only a slight difference. BobW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:14 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: R

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>> I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using >> indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. Are you saying that when there is an index, the system does not need to read the record at all? It just gets the SELECT list from the index? Is this only true in Uni

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Romanow
I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:14 PM, wrote: >>> Unless you know the keys to the records you're selecting, even the >>> EXECUTE "SELECT ..." is going to have to read each record,

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>> Unless you know the keys to the records you're selecting, even the >> EXECUTE "SELECT ..." is going to have to read each record, how else >> would it know which records to throw out? SELECT is definitely faster than EXECUTE "SELECT..." and I try and use it first. Charles Shaffer Senior Analys

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Dave Laansma
n-bower.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question >> Dave >> The next-to-last one may depend on Unidata vs. Universe. I >> understand that Unidata only 'fetches' the key in the READNEXT while >> I

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>> Dave >> The next-to-last one may depend on Unidata vs. Universe. I understand >> that Unidata only 'fetches' the key in the READNEXT while I believe >> Universe grabs both the key and record, due to the construct of the >> database. I believe that is the case in Unidata. A SELECT returns a li

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Dave Laansma
se grabs both the key and record, due to the construct of the database. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re:

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wjhonson
And... when you prematurely quit from an execution level which *had* been processing a select list your select list is not thrown away. Which is annoying. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wols Lists
>> Can anyone help explain this behavior or offer a workaround that saves me >> from handling it with line counters and printing my own >> headings?Cheers,Kebbon >> ___ Perry's approach is the correct one. If you

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-24 Thread Bill Haskett
Kebbon: I've converted our application from D3 to UniData. There were a number of issues with the Heading statement and, if I remember correctly, wouldn't allow me to do what you're trying. Fortunately, we already had a "scrolling" program to pass output into so this didn't cause problems.

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-24 Thread Perry Taylor
s out. Perry -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kebbon Irwin Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:29 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question The subroutine does an execute &#

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-24 Thread Kebbon Irwin
encing the behavior? > From: syme...@gmail.com > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:20:10 +0100 > Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic Question > > Is this unibasic doing an execute and the 'report' done using a List command > ? > > > >

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-24 Thread Symeon Breen
Is this unibasic doing an execute and the 'report' done using a List command ? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kebbon Irwin Sent: 24 October 2011 16:13 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2]

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-08-01 Thread John Thompson
[mailto: > u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson [DATACOM] > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:02 PM > To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' > Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT > > The problem may be in the use of program variables in the executed code.

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-08-01 Thread Bill Brutzman
QL+" prompt went away. Thanks very much indeed for the help. I appreciate it. Regards, --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson [DATACOM] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:02 PM To: &#

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-31 Thread Keith Johnson [DATACOM]
The problem may be in the use of program variables in the executed code. Using Universe, if I have code: VERB = 'SELECT VOC LIKE A...' EXECUTE VERB CRT @SELECTED CLEARSELECT I get the result 237 record(s) selected to SELECT list #0. 237 If I change the filename to something that doesn't exit,

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread BobW
ion of the code. BobW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT Thanks to Larry and Wol for writing. Both ways work to get r

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/11 23:53, Bill Brutzman wrote: > Thanks to Larry and Wol for writing. > > Both ways work to get rid of the red warnings but both ways I still get the > pesky SQL+ prompt at the end. That sounds weird. I was wondering why the EXECUTE made the SQL+ prompt appear, but there's no way a BASI

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Symeon Breen
LIST.2 is a variable inside your databasic code. EXECUTE runs some TCL code and is not privy to your databsic variables. I presume you want to concatenate LIST.2 to the end of the execute command and not include it in the string -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2u

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Bill Brutzman
f Of Wols Lists Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 6:37 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT On 29/07/11 23:14, Bill Brutzman wrote: > In an inherited legacy app, I have a few commands like > > LIST.1 = 1 > LIST.2 = 2 > LIST.3 = 3 >

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/11 23:14, Bill Brutzman wrote: > In an inherited legacy app, I have a few commands like > > LIST.1 = 1 > LIST.2 = 2 > LIST.3 = 3 > LIST.4 = 4 > > SELECT F.ICC to LIST.2 > SELECT F.ICC to LIST.3 > SELECT F.ICC to LIST.4 > > And then

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Larry Hiscock
#1 - Why would you want to change a Basic SELECT to EXECUTE a SELECT? #2 - If you still want to do this, change this: Execute " SELECT F.ICC to LIST.2" To this: Execute " SELECT F.ICC to ":LIST.2 Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From:

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
ward Brown Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 4:49 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Try changing IF MV.COUNT<1,A> EQ 1 THEN OUT.LINE<1,B> = REC ELSE OUT.LINE<1,B> = REC To IF MV.COUNT<1,B> EQ 1 THEN OUT.LINE&

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
Ltd, Pune, ( : +91-20-22909212 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 4:49 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Edward Brown
sers-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: 16 October 2009 12:17 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Now Date is converted, but multivalue ( C , R ) still missing. ,Jones, Bob,123 E. 23rdst.,Arvada,CO,80276,303776885

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
Thanks & Regards, Dattatraya Walgude -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Dattatraya, (Possible) correction added. You really need to take the time to understand the example code we're giving you. There will still be problems in the c

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Edward Brown
d St.,Arvada,CO,80276,3037768854,V4341,9611,D,7,R,6 Jones, Bob,123 E. 23rd St.,Arvada,CO,80276,3037768854,V4341,9611,D,7,R,6 Thanks & Regards, Dattatraya Walgude -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
essage- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Yes, and I've just spotted the first

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Symeon Breen
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: 16 October 2009 05:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Many Thanks George Now output is giving following way Jones, Bob,123 E. 23rd St.,Arvada,CO

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Edward Brown
WRITESEQ OUT.LINE ... NEXT A * -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: 16 October 2009 08:06 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Dattatraya - in un

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-16 Thread Edward Brown
Hope this helps - I've not compiled it so it might need a bit of tweaking to get it working. Ed -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: 16 October 2009 05:20 To: U2 Users List Sub

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Results
Dattatraya, oconv(9611,'d2/') will get you your date. Dattatraya Walgude wrote: But I want following way ( D,C,R are multivalue ) , date output also showing 9611 which is (04/24/94) is it possible? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listser

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
inal Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:54 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Try first starting with:

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-15 Thread broadriver
age - From: "Susan Lynch" To: "U2 Users List" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program Brenda, I did check it out, and it is interesting, but I still wonder if 3 years later, when the business

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Charles_Shaffer
Hi. I am getting in on this discussion late. Although the programming on the fly approach is unavoidable to some degree, I am a firm believer in defining specs as much as possible up front. Yogi Berra says: "Be careful if you don't know where you're going. You might not know it when you get

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread George Gallen
un...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:59 AM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table > > Sorry Symeon and all for asking such silly question. > > I manage @ID column in out

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Dattatraya, Are you interested in getting training in UniData and SBClient? If so there are people (not me) on this list who have online training courses. If you are interested please let us know and I'm

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Jeff Powell
: ',':ID Thanks& Regards, Dattatraya Walgude DBA Team -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:12 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Uni

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-15 Thread Results
All, Clif Oliver has said that he'd love a good article on Agile and how it applies to MV for an upcoming Spectrum issue. I think the title he had floated past us was "MV: Agile for 30 Years" - Chuck ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserve

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-15 Thread Symeon Breen
lawed. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: 14 October 2009 23:05 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program Agile and Scrum (basically agile 30 days sprint cycles) doesn'

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-15 Thread Symeon Breen
-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: 15 October 2009 06:59 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Sorry Symeon and all for asking such silly question. I manage @ID column in

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
D Thanks & Regards, Dattatraya Walgude DBA Team -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:12 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sam

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread phil walker
I could not put it more eloquently Ross. > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris > Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 1:00 p.m. > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibas

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Ross Ferris
alker >Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 6:56 AM >To: U2 Users List >Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > >I agree, agile and scrum are the way to go > >However, this is not just a term for no specifications and an open ended >project. > >This methodol

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
t; To: "U2 Users List" Sent: 10/14/2009 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program Agile and Scrum (basically agile 30 days sprint cycles) doesn't mean the system does not get documented. It just means a more iterative process with decisions being made later in the cy

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Robert Porter
can hit the ground running rather than reading all the code again. I look forward to hearing back from you in a few years on how well this works in the real world! Susan Lynch - Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Price" To: "U2 Users List" Sent: 10/14/2009 3:28 PM

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
g rather than reading all the code again. I look forward to hearing back from you in a few years on how well this works in the real world! Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: "Brenda Price" To: "U2 Users List" Sent: 10/14/2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Uniba

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program - Scrum/Agile methodology

2009-10-14 Thread phil walker
; To: 'U2 Users List' > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > > My experience in this is as a software vendor - it can be very > dangerous to > engage with a customer in an agile development - As a vendor we supply > our > packaged product with a certain amount

Re: [U2] Unibasic Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Two keys to making agile safe are [1] OSGI config management and [2] software test. Of course, customers want everything done yesterday. --Bill -Original Message- From: Symeon Breen Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:27 PM My experience in this is as a software vendor - it can be very

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Symeon Breen
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of phil walker Sent: 14 October 2009 20:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program I agree, agile and scrum are the way to go However, this is not just a term for no specifications and an open ended project

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
nd he became a devout convert to multi-value systems...) Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: "Jeff Powell" To: Sent: 10/14/2009 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table On the other hand some of us end up spending senseless days re

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread phil walker
Thursday, 15 October 2009 8:31 a.m. > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > > Well, when our company gets this fully implemented. You can count over > 250 Highlander's Immortals on the list! > > Seriously, check out "agile" and "scru

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Jeff Powell
On the other hand some of us end up spending senseless days re-engineering a product every time management changes it's mind what the product should do. It's a good thing I get paid for doing what the boss says rather than getting paid by completed projects. My boss actually brags about our

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Brenda Price
> -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:26 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > > Ah, it must be l

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: "Brutzman, Bill" To: "U2 Users List" Sent: 10/14/2009 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program John's world is similar to my world here. When I realized that I would be the only person reading the specs, I

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Brenda Price
utzman, Bill > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:21 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > > > John's world is similar to my world here. When I realized that I would > be the only person reading the specs, I stopped writing to myself. At

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Brutzman, Bill
John's world is similar to my world here. When I realized that I would be the only person reading the specs, I stopped writing to myself. At the risk of no longer being a professional dinosaur, I learned that some people call it "agile". Check out... Eckhart Tolle's book "The Power of Now". -

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread jpb-u2ug
line shouldn't be in the position to start with. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:35 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibas

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
I'm with Susan on this. My job as a consultant is to help clients define what they want so that anyone can code it. My job as a programmer is to implement the spec that was defined. These are two separate skills. Without specs the programmer codes what he/she thinks is required, leaving the cli

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <02fb01ca4c38$ab3ad6c0$01b084...@com>, Symeon Breen writes Actually for many it is mass produced. Specification is being done to the absolute minutia, for example in the Unified Rational process, when generating use cases these get transmitted down to the architectural specifications

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Israel, John R.
Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:35 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table John, I agree that listening to the super users is critical. However, writing a detailed spec will give those super users the ability to

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
- From: "Israel, John R." To: "U2 Users List" Sent: 10/14/2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table You cannot buy knowledge of a business. Experience with a technology: yes. Knowledge of how a specific company works: no

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Israel, John R.
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:00 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table As a programmer who has

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Susan Lynch
usan Lynch - Original Message - From: "jpb-u2ug" To: "'U2 Users List'" Sent: 10/14/2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Alleluia! Brother! Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@l

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program

2009-10-14 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Should those thousand "low quality coders" quit their jobs and line up at the local soup kitchen? If it is true that the world needs more computer programs... it follows that the world needs more programmers, not less. -Original Message- From: Symeon Breen Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread jpb-u2ug
Alleluia! Brother! Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:00 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program -

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-14 Thread Symeon Breen
: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of jpb-u2ug Sent: 13 October 2009 22:54 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table If you are going to go that far with the minutia then why not ju

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread jpb-u2ug
To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Actually for many it is mass produced. Specification is being done to the absolute minutia, for example in the Unified Rational process, when generating use cases these get transmitted d

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread David Jordan
With a number of the modern languages, there is a lot of code that is mind numbing boring and tedious. What is a couple of lines in unibasic is hundreds of lines in .Net, Java, etc. What is being outsourced is all the tedious unclever stuff such as defining variables and validations and other

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread Symeon Breen
g Sent: 13 October 2009 18:00 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table I don't see where you are coming from here. Every program I ever produce is for a specific purpose. We don't create one program and then have an assembly line

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program

2009-10-13 Thread George Gallen
with a couple goto's spinkled in for good measure?? ;) > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:45 PM > To: U2 Users List > Sub

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program

2009-10-13 Thread Brutzman, Bill
ubject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - I don't think anyone was questioning ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread jpb-u2ug
t: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:43 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Indian development firms are pretty much the same as any other - if you get a small highly focused team of experts they will achieve a lot. The problem is when yo

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread jpb-u2ug
do without first of having him trained on it. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Rubeor Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:26 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic:

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread Symeon Breen
development. Perhaps -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Larry Hiscock Sent: 12 October 2009 22:09 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Tab

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-13 Thread Charlie Rubeor
stserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of bney...@hcmg.net Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:47 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Doesn't matter which. We are the next group that will be asked to work for reduced pay or our work will go

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Larry Hiscock
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of bney...@hcmg.net Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:47 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Doesn't matter

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread BNeylon
e respond to U2 Users List To "'U2 Users List'" cc Subject Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table > And you are from outsource product develop company in India that has been > tasked to work on this U2 system. http://www.rsystems.com/

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Charlie Rubeor
> And you are from outsource product develop company in India that has been > tasked to work on this U2 system. http://www.rsystems.com/ It is a question that needs to be asked. Was this firm contracted for support or for development? ___ U2-Users ma

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Doug
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Thanks for your support. We get output of multivalve columns. Only

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Eastwood
ber 12, 2009 6:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Thanks for your support. We get output of multivalve columns. Only things is we can not get out of DATE column is date format. So please g

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Edward Brown
ya Walgude Sent: 12 October 2009 14:24 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Thanks for your support. We get output of multivalve columns. Only things is we can not get out of DATE column is date format. So please give your suggestions. Jones

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:13 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table The code is just an exam

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Symeon Breen
riginal Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: 12 October 2009 12:58 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table Output is not readable:- "1433

Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample program - to extract data from Table

2009-10-12 Thread Dattatraya Walgude
ýý9757","13942ýSUSýFailed ValidationýýýWITH SIXTYD.ABOVE.AMT.OVRD GE 10.00 ý Thanks & Regards, Dattatraya Walgude -----Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya Walgude Sent: Monday,

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