Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
It's my understanding that George hit the issue squarely on the head with this comment: Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Rocket doesn't want people creating their own connection pooling logic that would allow a single license to service what might otherwise be an unreasonable number of clients. They are, after all, in the business of selling seats. That being said, the issue is one of concurrency. With telnet, people are squatting on ports all day. With a web-based application a connection might last a fraction of a second and be done. This allows the web-based application to utilize each single license more effectively as one license could realistically service thousands of different clients over the course of a day. The down side to this connect-do-disconnect model, of course, is the overhead of establishing each connection. With connection pooling they offer an alternative to making a new connection each time, and have established the rules and price for whatever they think makes sense. -K On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:33 AM, George Land george.l...@aptsolutions.co.ukwrote: I think that there is quite a bit of confusion on different terms. Firstly there is no problem in developing and hosting web based applications using U2, many of the successful U2 applications today are web based. But since U2 is licensed per user what you can't do is simply have a small license that connection pools - in other words runs a few processes that listen for work from a large user base and services them. Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Whilst this pricing model is different to Oracle and Microsoft it is also often less expensive, it all depends on the configuration of the system being implemented. But that's different from SaaS, connection pooling is about a technical architecture whilst SaaS is really a pricing model. You can adopt a SaaS pricing model on an in house application just as you can adopt a conventional user licensing model on an application that is hosted/in the cloud. If you are implementing a true SaaS pricing model, so the customers pay per transaction or per some other metric, and you want to pay for your U2 licenses on the same metric then you need to talk to Rocket or your distributor if you are outside the US. It is almost impossible to have an 'off the shelf' pricing model for this environment because the metrics you use and the software you need to back it up will vary, particularly if the demand is going to be seasonal. But talk about it with whoever you buy from. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 03/06/2012 07:22, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net wrote: I should clarify my question. What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS (or BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it? I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made a SaaS implementation potentially impractical. BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is a violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of their licenses (these raise the price significantly). This is little known, and to date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that apparently might be about to change. U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are going to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.) The special terms to look up seem to be Connection Pooling and Concurrent User. My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have potentially 2 million different users who may use my service through web-based connection pooling through the term of the license, (even if not concurrently), I must have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support this. I copy the block of text at the bottom of this message from a copy of the license agreement that I have (possibly out of date - that's part of the question). Their definition of Concurrent seems a bit odd... (BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the internet. I would be inclined to have the U2 server hiding behind a good solid commercial grade web server.) Connection Pooling (CP): Licensee is not authorized to enable or engage in Connection Pooling unless Licensee is able to count and acquire required Concurrent Session or Concurrent User entitlements covering all unique individuals or single, unique instances of a software application that might process transactions using the Program. CP session entitlements [ which would cover use by any and all unique individuals or unique single instances of software programs over a single logical open, persistent connection ] are optionally available for purchase for
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
They do have an ASP license -- it's an annual license fee instead of the 'permanent' fee. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:04 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud Just so I'm clear... what exactly would be different about such a license? Seems to me the typical licensing terms would work just fine, as long as you have enough seats to handle the traffic. I would, however, be concerned about opening up the telnet port on a cloud architecture. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.netwrote: Does Rocket license Universe or Unidata for use in the cloud? Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.nethttp://www.fwic.net/ LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/company/fusionware-integration-corp.?trk=fc_ba dge Twitter http://www.twitter.com/fusionwareint FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/New-Westminster-BC/FusionWare-Integra tion-Corp/115116258510923 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
Actually ASP is being 'retired', there is now a fixed term license which means that you don't have the same up front fee but pay more as an annual fee. And if true SaaS is what you need, paying based on the number of transactions processed or whatever, then you need to talk about it. I'm not saying that it will be agreed to, but if it's a sensible proposal that brings in decent revenue there is every chance it may be agreed. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 04/06/2012 14:41, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: They do have an ASP license -- it's an annual license fee instead of the 'permanent' fee. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:04 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud Just so I'm clear... what exactly would be different about such a license? Seems to me the typical licensing terms would work just fine, as long as you have enough seats to handle the traffic. I would, however, be concerned about opening up the telnet port on a cloud architecture. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.netwrote: Does Rocket license Universe or Unidata for use in the cloud? Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.nethttp://www.fwic.net/ LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/company/fusionware-integration-corp.?trk=fc_ba dge Twitter http://www.twitter.com/fusionwareint FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/New-Westminster-BC/FusionWare-Integra tion-Corp/115116258510923 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
As usual this group is a wealth of information. I think the talk to Rocket is the most useful thing. Our OLE DB driver uses Microsofts OLE DB Resource Pooling (built into Windows) to pool. Our other products provide built-in pooling. We've always told our U2 customers that they need to get connection pooling licenses. The wording of the license agreements suggests that whoever wrote it did not understand how most applications use connection pooling. I was curious if this had been cleared up. Unfortunately, if anything goes wrong, unless you have something written to refer to, the actual wording of the license will be used by the courts. Thank you, Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.net LinkedIn Twitter FaceBook -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: June-04-12 1:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud I think that there is quite a bit of confusion on different terms. Firstly there is no problem in developing and hosting web based applications using U2, many of the successful U2 applications today are web based. But since U2 is licensed per user what you can't do is simply have a small license that connection pools - in other words runs a few processes that listen for work from a large user base and services them. Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Whilst this pricing model is different to Oracle and Microsoft it is also often less expensive, it all depends on the configuration of the system being implemented. But that's different from SaaS, connection pooling is about a technical architecture whilst SaaS is really a pricing model. You can adopt a SaaS pricing model on an in house application just as you can adopt a conventional user licensing model on an application that is hosted/in the cloud. If you are implementing a true SaaS pricing model, so the customers pay per transaction or per some other metric, and you want to pay for your U2 licenses on the same metric then you need to talk to Rocket or your distributor if you are outside the US. It is almost impossible to have an 'off the shelf' pricing model for this environment because the metrics you use and the software you need to back it up will vary, particularly if the demand is going to be seasonal. But talk about it with whoever you buy from. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 03/06/2012 07:22, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net wrote: I should clarify my question. What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS (or BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it? I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made a SaaS implementation potentially impractical. BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is a violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of their licenses (these raise the price significantly). This is little known, and to date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that apparently might be about to change. U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are going to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.) The special terms to look up seem to be Connection Pooling and Concurrent User. My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have potentially 2 million different users who may use my service through web-based connection pooling through the term of the license, (even if not concurrently), I must have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support this. I copy the block of text at the bottom of this message from a copy of the license agreement that I have (possibly out of date - that's part of the question). Their definition of Concurrent seems a bit odd... (BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the internet. I would be inclined to have the U2 server hiding behind a good solid commercial grade web server.) Connection Pooling (CP): Licensee is not authorized to enable or engage in Connection Pooling unless Licensee is able to count and acquire required Concurrent Session or Concurrent User entitlements covering all unique individuals or single, unique instances of a software application that might process transactions using the Program. CP session entitlements [ which would cover use by any and all unique individuals or unique single instances of software programs over a single logical open, persistent connection ] are optionally available for purchase for use with the Workgroup Edition, but are limited to a maximum of two (2) CP sessions. Enterprise Edition
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
Surely Robert you know that courts understand that wording can be ambiguous. If you really think some court is going to tell you you need 2 million licenses I think you're trying to make a case out of tissue -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:35 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud As usual this group is a wealth of information. I think the talk to Rocket is the most useful thing. Our OLE DB driver uses Microsofts OLE DB Resource Pooling (built into Windows) to pool. Our other products provide built-in pooling. We've always told our U2 customers that they need to get connection pooling licenses. The wording of the license agreements suggests that whoever wrote it did not understand how most applications use connection pooling. I was curious if this had been cleared up. Unfortunately, if anything goes wrong, unless you have something written to refer to, the actual wording of the license will be used by the courts. Thank you, Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.net LinkedIn Twitter FaceBook -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: June-04-12 1:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud I think that there is quite a bit of confusion on different terms. Firstly there is no problem in developing and hosting web based applications using U2, many of the successful U2 applications today are web based. But since U2 is licensed per user what you can't do is simply have a small license that connection pools - in other words runs a few processes that listen for work from a large user base and services them. Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Whilst this pricing model is different to Oracle and Microsoft it is also often less expensive, it all depends on the configuration of the system being implemented. But that's different from SaaS, connection pooling is about a technical architecture whilst SaaS is really a pricing model. You can adopt a SaaS pricing model on an in house application just as you can adopt a conventional user licensing model on an application that is hosted/in the cloud. If you are implementing a true SaaS pricing model, so the customers pay per transaction or per some other metric, and you want to pay for your U2 licenses on the same metric then you need to talk to Rocket or your distributor if you are outside the US. It is almost impossible to have an 'off the shelf' pricing model for this environment because the metrics you use and the software you need to back it up will vary, particularly if the demand is going to be seasonal. But talk about it with whoever you buy from. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 03/06/2012 07:22, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net wrote: I should clarify my question. What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS (or BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it? I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made a SaaS implementation potentially impractical. BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is a violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of their licenses (these raise the price significantly). This is little known, and to date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that apparently might be about to change. U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are going to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.) The special terms to look up seem to be Connection Pooling and Concurrent User. My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have potentially 2 million different users who may use my service through web-based connection pooling through the term of the license, (even if not concurrently), I must have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support this. I copy the block of text at the bottom of this message from a copy of the license agreement that I have (possibly out of date - that's part of the question). Their definition of Concurrent seems a bit odd... (BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the internet. I would be inclined to have the U2 server hiding behind a good solid commercial grade web server.) Connection Pooling (CP): Licensee is not authorized to enable or engage in Connection Pooling unless Licensee is able to count and acquire required Concurrent Session or Concurrent User entitlements covering all unique individuals or
[U2] [UV] Using Global sign certificates in UV
Hello, The URL of a webservice I need to use has a port number in it ei: Acceptance = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; The libraries U2 libraries I'm using are somehow interpreting: Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 as the complete hostname (which it doesn't find in the host file. 05/29/2012 16:07:02 [ 26930 26925 ] new host 221010:Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 allocated (proxy:no) 05/29/2012 16:07:02 [ 26930 26925 ] host Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 not found in hostList 05/29/2012 16:07:09 [ 26930 26925 ] Unknown socket error : 1000 The code below is from the pick wiki article. Any ideas on now to get CreateSecureRequest() to interpret the host + port correctly ? Thanks. *** ### Code *** *For getting onto webservices we use this sort of code: * Read an xml request to send to the webservice * OPEN , WORK.OUT TO WORK.OUT ELSE STOP 201, WORK.OUT READ XML.REQUEST FROM WORK.OUT, TURTLE.XML ELSE STOP XML.REQUEST = CONVERT(@AM,,XML.REQUEST) PROMPT '' ;* 212.65.63.70 Acceptance = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; ** Acceptance = https://212.65.63.70:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; Production = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; X.LOG.FILE = /trace_pc/work.out/CERT.LOG X.LOG.ACTION = 'ON' X.LOG.LEVEL = '10' WRITE ON WORK.OUT, CERT.LOG ;* Overwrite existing log file X.RTN.CODE = protocolLogging(X.LOG.FILE, X.LOG.ACTION,X.LOG.LEVEL) URL = Acceptance ;* Setting URL to the acceptance site L.ERR = sec_context='' L.ERR =createSecurityContext(sec_context,'') usedAs=2 ;* 2 = Issuer Certificate CA format = 2 ; algorithm = 1 ; * Uncomment to next 4 lines to create a new certificate * they only last for 365 days * action = 1 * req = '/PROD/certificates' CACert = '/trace_pc/work.out/CERT/REPTILE_SERVERS_CA.CRT' ; extensions = '' ; CertOut = '/trace_pc/work.out/CERT/ACTUAL' * ret = createCertificate(action,req,priveKey,explore,CACert,365,extensions,CertOut) ret = addCertificate(CertOut, usedAs, format, algorithm,sec_context) CRT The Return code is :ret depth=1 ; * 0 = self signed, 1 = Signed by a CA serverOrClient=2 ; * 1 = Server, 2 = client L.ERR+=setAuthenticationDepth(sec_context, depth, serverOrClient) CRT L.ERR After setAuthenticationDepth : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() ret = addAuthenticationRule(sec_context,serverOrClient,VerificationStrength,Generous) L.ERR+=setHTTPDefault(HEADERS,) CRT L.ERR after addAuthenticationRule : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() L.ERR+=setHTTPDefault(VERSION,1.1) CRT L.ERR after setHTTPDefault : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() request_handle='' L.ERR+=createSecureRequest(URL, POST, request_handle,sec_context) ;* Using the url CRT L.ERR after createSecureRequest : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() XML = XML.REQUEST MAX.RETRIES = 10 SERVER.IP.ADDRESS = Leonardo.Rafael.be TIMEOUT = 9 L.ERR+=addRequestParameter(request_handle, xmlStream, XML, ) CRT L.ERR after addRequestParameter : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() L.STATUS = 0 ; L.OUTPUT = ; L.TIMEOUT = ; L.POST.DATA = ; L.HEADER = L.ERR+=submitRequest(request_handle, TIMEOUT, L.POST.DATA, L.HEADER, L.OUTPUT, L.STATUS) CRT L.ERR : :L.ERR CRT L.HEADER:L.HEADER CRT CRT L.OUTPUT:L.OUTPUT CRT L.POST.DATA:L.POST.DATA SOCKET.PORT = 9101 BLOCKING.MODE = 1 ;* 1 = Blocking Mode, 2 = Non-Blocking Mode X.LOG.ACTION = 'OFF' X.RTN.CODE = protocolLogging(X.LOG.FILE, X.LOG.ACTION,X.LOG.LEVEL) ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
If you are connection pooling without connection pooling licenses then the most a court will do is rule that you need to buy those connection pool licenses, they aren't going to tell you that you need 2 million licenses. On 04/06/2012 15:58, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Surely Robert you know that courts understand that wording can be ambiguous. If you really think some court is going to tell you you need 2 million licenses I think you're trying to make a case out of tissue -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:35 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud As usual this group is a wealth of information. I think the talk to Rocket is the most useful thing. Our OLE DB driver uses Microsofts OLE DB Resource Pooling (built into Windows) to pool. Our other products provide built-in pooling. We've always told our U2 customers that they need to get connection pooling licenses. The wording of the license agreements suggests that whoever wrote it did not understand how most applications use connection pooling. I was curious if this had been cleared up. Unfortunately, if anything goes wrong, unless you have something written to refer to, the actual wording of the license will be used by the courts. Thank you, Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.net LinkedIn Twitter FaceBook -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: June-04-12 1:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud I think that there is quite a bit of confusion on different terms. Firstly there is no problem in developing and hosting web based applications using U2, many of the successful U2 applications today are web based. But since U2 is licensed per user what you can't do is simply have a small license that connection pools - in other words runs a few processes that listen for work from a large user base and services them. Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Whilst this pricing model is different to Oracle and Microsoft it is also often less expensive, it all depends on the configuration of the system being implemented. But that's different from SaaS, connection pooling is about a technical architecture whilst SaaS is really a pricing model. You can adopt a SaaS pricing model on an in house application just as you can adopt a conventional user licensing model on an application that is hosted/in the cloud. If you are implementing a true SaaS pricing model, so the customers pay per transaction or per some other metric, and you want to pay for your U2 licenses on the same metric then you need to talk to Rocket or your distributor if you are outside the US. It is almost impossible to have an 'off the shelf' pricing model for this environment because the metrics you use and the software you need to back it up will vary, particularly if the demand is going to be seasonal. But talk about it with whoever you buy from. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 03/06/2012 07:22, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net wrote: I should clarify my question. What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS (or BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it? I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made a SaaS implementation potentially impractical. BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is a violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of their licenses (these raise the price significantly). This is little known, and to date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that apparently might be about to change. U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are going to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.) The special terms to look up seem to be Connection Pooling and Concurrent User. My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have potentially 2 million different users who may use my service through web-based connection pooling through the term of the license, (even if not concurrently), I must have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support this. I copy the block of text at the bottom of this message from a copy of the license agreement that I have (possibly out of date - that's part of the question). Their definition of Concurrent seems a bit odd... (BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the
[U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
Hi Everyone, Can any one explain, were we can get the nformation about the Unidata Programming Logic. Thank you, Satya. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
At TCL type HELP BASIC -Original Message- From: satya satya satyapal...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:30 am Subject: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques Hi Everyone, Can any one explain, were we can get the nformation about the nidata Programming Logic. Thank you, atya. __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
Yes. And I have to say, that contrary to some of my peers, the majority of the income does not arise from the sale of seats, which are relatively cheap. It arises from the sale of consulting services, which can run a seat per hour, if you get my drift. And the sale of training, seminars, analysis, sell-ups and so on. They want more clients, and I'm sure they will do what it takes to not piss them off. However, as you probably know, the number of Rocket employees who monitor this list is woefully small. One or two. The ones you need, don't. So make the phone call, get the ball rolling. -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:37 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud I understand all of this, but an ISV does not want a potential lawsuit, they ant a license agreement (or options) that are clear, and the current one is ot. The wording suggests something quite unusual, and not at all what the ndustry expects, and is frankly ambiguous. There are some very rich MV apps ut there that could provide world-class SaaS offerings. An ISV looking at ptions may not want to tip their hand even to a company like Rocket. If the icense agreement leaves them unclear about the options, then they may move on n their search. Note that not all MV vendors have a track record of being reasonable... This is based on actual inquiries from customers of ours. We like to be able to ntelligently advise our customers, so I'm asking in order to remove the ncertainty. Inquiring minds want to know... :) So My understanding is this: It is the opinion of the community that Rocket ould cooperate with an ISV, but it would require talking to them, and getting heir buy-in. Thank you, Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of George Land ent: June-04-12 9:19 AM o: U2 Users List ubject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud If you are connection pooling without connection pooling licenses then the most court will do is rule that you need to buy those connection pool licenses, hey aren't going to tell you that you need 2 million licenses. n 04/06/2012 15:58, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Surely Robert you know that courts understand that wording can be ambiguous. If you really think some court is going to tell you you need 2 million licenses I think you're trying to make a case out of tissue -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:35 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud As usual this group is a wealth of information. I think the talk to Rocket is the most useful thing. Our OLE DB driver uses Microsofts OLE DB Resource Pooling (built into Windows) to pool. Our other products provide built-in pooling. We've always told our U2 customers that they need to get connection pooling licenses. The wording of the license agreements suggests that whoever wrote it did not understand how most applications use connection pooling. I was curious if this had been cleared up. Unfortunately, if anything goes wrong, unless you have something written to refer to, the actual wording of the license will be used by the courts. Thank you, Robert Houben IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture Chief Technology Officer FusionWare Integration Corp. p: 604-777-4254 x158 f: 604-608-5544 http://www.fwic.net LinkedIn Twitter FaceBook -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: June-04-12 1:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud I think that there is quite a bit of confusion on different terms. Firstly there is no problem in developing and hosting web based applications using U2, many of the successful U2 applications today are web based. But since U2 is licensed per user what you can't do is simply have a small license that connection pools - in other words runs a few processes that listen for work from a large user base and services them. Instead if you connection pool using Rocket's or your own technology then you need to buy connection pooling licenses. Whilst this pricing model is different to Oracle and Microsoft it is also often less expensive, it all depends on the configuration of the system being implemented. But that's different from SaaS, connection pooling is about a technical architecture whilst SaaS is really a pricing model. You can adopt a SaaS pricing model on an in house application just as you can adopt a conventional user licensing model on an application that is hosted/in he cloud. If you are implementing a true SaaS pricing model, so the customers
Re: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
www.rocketsoftware.com/rocket-resources/tech-resources/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of satya satya Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:30 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques Hi Everyone, Can any one explain, were we can get the nformation about the Unidata Programming Logic. Thank you, Satya. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
satya, You should be able to find documentation on the Rocket site. If you are interested in techniques read the document called Developing Unibasic Applications. There is also a UniBasic Commands Reference for a list of commands and how they work. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation From: satya satya satyapal...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org, Date: 06/04/2012 11:30 AM Subject:[U2] Regarding: programming Techinques Sent by:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Hi Everyone, Can any one explain, were we can get the nformation about the Unidata Programming Logic. Thank you, Satya. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.astaro.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
And they'd never give you $2,860,000 for not realizing coffee is hot and spilling it on your lap... Yes, I know it was re-done for an undisclosed amount. My point is that relying on the court system to be reasonable when it has repeatedly been absurd in their judgement (or lack thereof) is short-sighted. Rob George Land george.l...@aptsolutions.co.uk 6/4/2012 11:19 AM If you are connection pooling without connection pooling licenses then the most a court will do is rule that you need to buy those connection pool licenses, they aren't going to tell you that you need 2 million licenses. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud
That was a jury award. It's common knowledge that juries can be swayed to grant millions of dollars to bloated greedy record labels, or people who got cancer after smoking three packs a day for 20 years. -Original Message- From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:21 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud And they'd never give you $2,860,000 for not realizing coffee is hot and pilling it on your lap... Yes, I know it was re-done for an undisclosed amount. y point is that relying on the court system to be reasonable when it has epeatedly been absurd in their judgement (or lack thereof) is short-sighted. ob George Land george.l...@aptsolutions.co.uk 6/4/2012 11:19 AM f you are connection pooling without connection pooling licenses then the ost a court will do is rule that you need to buy those connection pool icenses, they aren't going to tell you that you need 2 million licenses. ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino)
As John stated we use dimensioned arrays but we also equate each attribute which reserves a spot for the piece of data making it tremendously faster updating. Nicholas M Gettino, Director of Professional Services Support, EnRoute Emergency Systems an Infor Company, Concourse Center 1, 3501 East Frontage Rd, Suite 350, Tampa, FL 33607 -(813) 207-6998 direct, (813) 334-3507 cell, FAX (678) 393-5389 nick.gett...@enroute911.com or nick.gett...@infor.com -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 2. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Israel, John R.) 3. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 4. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Davis) 5. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 6. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wols Lists) 7. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 8. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 9. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 10. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 11. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 12. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:29:55 -0400 From: Dave Laansma dlaan...@hubbardsupply.com To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed Message-ID: 071256f97fa0fa498115009ae88175b202cad...@hubmail2.hubbardsupply.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a file that is taking a very long time to update, seemingly longer and longer each month. Here is briefly how the attributes are organized, a relatively simple example: Attribute 1 is multivalued with our G/L Period, i.e. 12-01 vm 12-02 vm 12-03 etc. Attributes 2 through 30 are dependent on attribute 1 and contain a variety of dollar amounts that are accumulated for the respective period in attribute 1. At the end of each month, a new G/L Period is inserted into the multivalued position of attribute 1 as well as each of the respective multivalued positions in attributes 2 through 30. Nothing complicated. My question is this and is aimed largely at the technicians at Rocket ... If, at the beginning of the year, I were to insert each of the 12-periods into their respective multivalues in attribute 1 and insert respective null multivalues into attributes 2 through 30, thus performing all of the 'inserts' at once, will the processing each month run faster as numbers are simply accumulated into attributes 2 through 30 and no inserting of new multivalues will have to be performed? A couple nuggets of information: This is only an example. In the actual file, these records contain many other attributes and the records overall are relatively large, averaging lengths of about 3,000 according to FILE.STAT These are not my files so reorganizing them is not an option. The heart of this question is, as a (numeric) number is accumulated in an attribute, multivalue or subvalue, what causes the record to 'stretch' in length, thus presumably impacting performance? I would like to think that numeric information is stored in a more 'compact' method than strings, thus using less space within the database ... but what I 'like' and what 'is' are often quite different. Thanks! Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com http://www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
The difference between logic and syntax is huge. Common reference manuals are intended to provide details for people who already understand the environment. In addition to the guide on techniques referenced below, look for code at http://PickWiki.com. There you'll find a lot of functional code in-context, which might be far more helpful than tiny snippets in a reference manual. As well as getting a formal education in programming, I originally learned how to code by picking apart programs that I used. Knowing how they worked allowed me to look at code and then work out exactly what the lines of code did toward creating the experience that I already understood. When I first started in the 1970's, I was playing games on a TTY device like StarTrek, and at the time I picked apart the code which was written in Fortran and BASIC. Over the years I found that learning code through games was not only educational but fun too - hacking the code to make the games better (or to cheat) provided the developer experience of analyze, code, test, debug, repeat. Of course there weren't many games written in COBOL, RPG, BAL, or a slew of other languages I learned, but there was always some huge set of examples to follow which demonstrated how to use the language - and lots of examples of bad coding style as well. With the internet, the best education one can get on mainstream languages is available from code published as freeware, and in forums where people post fully working code with questions and answers. I just wish we had more exchanges like this in our industry but we don't because there are so few newcomers. Don't hesitate to post newbie questions here, or at the MVDBMS forum - we all like to help newcomers. http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms/about If you're going to learn Pick BASIC, look in your own system for examples. That's how I learned Pick BASIC (and Proc, RPL, Access, etc) - I spent my evenings reading code that made my company work. Ask other developers who have worked on your application about where some small code items are which aren't going to be too big or overwhelming. And ask them if there is any source code for games on the system. ;) HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog Visit http://PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno From: Charles_Shaffer satya, You should be able to find documentation on the Rocket site. If you are interested in techniques read the document called Developing Unibasic Applications. There is also a UniBasic Commands Reference for a list of commands and how they work. From: satya Can any one explain, were we can get the nformation about the Unidata Programming Logic. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino)
If someone has already suggested this then forgive me as I haven't been following this discussion in great detail. Since you are handling the records in a dimensioned array you can RAISE() each element, process each element as attributes where field caching will come into play, then LOWER() them prior to writing them to disk. You should be amazed at how much faster this can be. Assuming all elements of the array are multivalued (if not you'll have to hard code which elements are multivalued) ... MATREADU DX FROM . DX.ELEMENTS = INMAT() FOR AMC = 1 TO DX.ELEMENTS DX(AMC) = RAISE(DX(AMC)) NEXT AMC ... Process them as attribute-delimited arrays FOR AMC = 1 TO DX.ELEMENTS DX(AMC) = LOWER(DX(AMC)) NEXT AMC Perry Taylor Zirmed, Inc. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino) Equating doesn't reserve a spot, so I assume you mean dimensioning reserves a spot All equating does is, at compile time, it replaces one variable name with another. It has no effect at run time. -Original Message- From: Nick Gettino nick.gett...@enroute911.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 1:07 pm Subject: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino) s John stated we use dimensioned arrays but we also equate each attribute which eserves a spot for the piece of data making it tremendously faster updating. Nicholas M Gettino, Director of Professional Services Support, EnRoute mergency Systems an Infor Company, Concourse Center 1, 3501 East Frontage Rd, uite 350, Tampa, FL 33607 -(813) 207-6998 direct, (813) 334-3507 cell, FAX 678) 393-5389 nick.gett...@enroute911.com or nick.gett...@infor.com -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:00 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users r, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific han Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... oday's Topics: 1. Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 2. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Israel, John R.) 3. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 4. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Davis) 5. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 6. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wols Lists) 7. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 8. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 9. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 10. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 11. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 12. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) - Message: 1 ate: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:29:55 -0400 rom: Dave Laansma dlaan...@hubbardsupply.com o: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: [U2] Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed essage-ID: 071256f97fa0fa498115009ae88175b202cad...@hubmail2.hubbardsupply.com ontent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I have a file that is taking a very long time to update, seemingly onger and longer each month. Here is briefly how the attributes are rganized, a relatively simple example: Attribute 1 is multivalued with our G/L Period, i.e. 12-01 vm 12-02 vm 2-03 etc. Attributes 2 through 30 are dependent on attribute 1 and contain a ariety of dollar amounts that are accumulated for the respective period n attribute 1. At the end of each month, a new G/L Period is inserted into the ultivalued position of attribute 1 as well as each of the respective ultivalued positions in attributes 2 through 30. Nothing complicated. My question is this and is aimed largely at the technicians at Rocket .. If, at the beginning of the year, I were to insert each of the 2-periods into their respective multivalues in attribute 1 and insert espective null multivalues into attributes 2 through 30, thus erforming all of the 'inserts' at once, will the processing each month un faster as numbers are simply accumulated into attributes 2 through 0 and no inserting of new multivalues will have to be performed? A couple
Re: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino)
Note: This is only true for UniVerse which implements an internal hint mechanism. This will not provide the desired effect in UniData. Also note, correctly using LOOP/REMOVE will outperform the RAISE/LOWER method as it doesn't do the 2 extra laps of string scanning and modified delimiters. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino) If someone has already suggested this then forgive me as I haven't been following this discussion in great detail. Since you are handling the records in a dimensioned array you can RAISE() each element, process each element as attributes where field caching will come into play, then LOWER() them prior to writing them to disk. You should be amazed at how much faster this can be. Assuming all elements of the array are multivalued (if not you'll have to hard code which elements are multivalued) ... MATREADU DX FROM . DX.ELEMENTS = INMAT() FOR AMC = 1 TO DX.ELEMENTS DX(AMC) = RAISE(DX(AMC)) NEXT AMC ... Process them as attribute-delimited arrays FOR AMC = 1 TO DX.ELEMENTS DX(AMC) = LOWER(DX(AMC)) NEXT AMC Perry Taylor Zirmed, Inc. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino) Equating doesn't reserve a spot, so I assume you mean dimensioning reserves a spot All equating does is, at compile time, it replaces one variable name with another. It has no effect at run time. -Original Message- From: Nick Gettino nick.gett...@enroute911.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 1:07 pm Subject: [U2] 13. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Nick Gettino) s John stated we use dimensioned arrays but we also equate each attribute which eserves a spot for the piece of data making it tremendously faster updating. Nicholas M Gettino, Director of Professional Services Support, EnRoute mergency Systems an Infor Company, Concourse Center 1, 3501 East Frontage Rd, uite 350, Tampa, FL 33607 -(813) 207-6998 direct, (813) 334-3507 cell, FAX 678) 393-5389 nick.gett...@enroute911.com or nick.gett...@infor.com -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:00 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users r, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific han Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... oday's Topics: 1. Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 2. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Israel, John R.) 3. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 4. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Davis) 5. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 6. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wols Lists) 7. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 8. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 9. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) 10. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Dave Laansma) 11. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (Wjhonson) 12. Re: Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed (David L. Wasylenko) - Message: 1 ate: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:29:55 -0400 rom: Dave Laansma dlaan...@hubbardsupply.com o: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: [U2] Monthly Multivalue Inserts and Speed essage-ID: 071256f97fa0fa498115009ae88175b202cad...@hubmail2.hubbardsupply.com ontent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I have a file that is taking a very long time to update, seemingly onger and longer each month. Here is briefly how the attributes are rganized, a relatively simple example: Attribute 1 is multivalued with our G/L Period, i.e. 12-01 vm 12-02 vm 2-03 etc. Attributes 2 through 30 are dependent on attribute 1 and contain a ariety of dollar amounts that are accumulated for the respective period n attribute 1. At the end of each month, a new G/L Period is inserted into the ultivalued position of attribute 1 as
Re: [U2] [UV] Using Global sign certificates in UV
Is the actual host name (Leonardo.Rafael.be) in the hosts file on the server? Can you use ping Leonardo.Rafael.be to resolve the host name into the correct IP? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 1:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UV] Using Global sign certificates in UV Hello, The URL of a webservice I need to use has a port number in it ei: Acceptance = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; The libraries U2 libraries I'm using are somehow interpreting: Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 as the complete hostname (which it doesn't find in the host file. 05/29/2012 16:07:02 [ 26930 26925 ] new host 221010:Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 allocated (proxy:no) 05/29/2012 16:07:02 [ 26930 26925 ] host Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101 not found in hostList 05/29/2012 16:07:09 [ 26930 26925 ] Unknown socket error : 1000 The code below is from the pick wiki article. Any ideas on now to get CreateSecureRequest() to interpret the host + port correctly ? Thanks. *** ### Code *** *For getting onto webservices we use this sort of code: * Read an xml request to send to the webservice * OPEN , WORK.OUT TO WORK.OUT ELSE STOP 201, WORK.OUT READ XML.REQUEST FROM WORK.OUT, TURTLE.XML ELSE STOP XML.REQUEST = CONVERT(@AM,,XML.REQUEST) PROMPT '' ;* 212.65.63.70 Acceptance = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; ** Acceptance = https://212.65.63.70:9101/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; Production = https://Leonardo.Rafael.be/CustomerOrder/OrderManagementService/01/; X.LOG.FILE = /trace_pc/work.out/CERT.LOG X.LOG.ACTION = 'ON' X.LOG.LEVEL = '10' WRITE ON WORK.OUT, CERT.LOG ;* Overwrite existing log file X.RTN.CODE = protocolLogging(X.LOG.FILE, X.LOG.ACTION,X.LOG.LEVEL) URL = Acceptance ;* Setting URL to the acceptance site L.ERR = sec_context='' L.ERR =createSecurityContext(sec_context,'') usedAs=2 ;* 2 = Issuer Certificate CA format = 2 ; algorithm = 1 ; * Uncomment to next 4 lines to create a new certificate * they only last for 365 days * action = 1 *req = '/PROD/certificates' CACert = '/trace_pc/work.out/CERT/REPTILE_SERVERS_CA.CRT' ; extensions = '' ; CertOut = '/trace_pc/work.out/CERT/ACTUAL' *ret = createCertificate(action,req,priveKey,explore,CACert,365,extensions,CertOut) ret = addCertificate(CertOut, usedAs, format, algorithm,sec_context) CRT The Return code is :ret depth=1; * 0 = self signed, 1 = Signed by a CA serverOrClient=2 ; * 1 = Server, 2 = client L.ERR+=setAuthenticationDepth(sec_context, depth, serverOrClient) CRT L.ERR After setAuthenticationDepth : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() ret = addAuthenticationRule(sec_context,serverOrClient,VerificationStrength,Generous) L.ERR+=setHTTPDefault(HEADERS,) CRT L.ERR after addAuthenticationRule : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() L.ERR+=setHTTPDefault(VERSION,1.1) CRT L.ERR after setHTTPDefault : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() request_handle='' L.ERR+=createSecureRequest(URL, POST, request_handle,sec_context) ;* Using the url CRT L.ERR after createSecureRequest : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() XML = XML.REQUEST MAX.RETRIES = 10 SERVER.IP.ADDRESS = Leonardo.Rafael.be TIMEOUT= 9 L.ERR+=addRequestParameter(request_handle, xmlStream, XML, ) CRT L.ERR after addRequestParameter : :L.ERR CRT Hit a key to continue :;XX = KEYIN() L.STATUS = 0 ; L.OUTPUT = ; L.TIMEOUT = ; L.POST.DATA = ; L.HEADER = L.ERR+=submitRequest(request_handle, TIMEOUT, L.POST.DATA, L.HEADER, L.OUTPUT, L.STATUS) CRT L.ERR : :L.ERR CRT L.HEADER:L.HEADER CRT CRT L.OUTPUT:L.OUTPUT CRT L.POST.DATA:L.POST.DATA SOCKET.PORT= 9101 BLOCKING.MODE = 1 ;* 1 = Blocking Mode, 2 = Non-Blocking Mode X.LOG.ACTION = 'OFF' X.RTN.CODE = protocolLogging(X.LOG.FILE, X.LOG.ACTION,X.LOG.LEVEL) ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1ESfTWqvLE/44bpo49N2SMmIDPHsjpPyk/7.157 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved
Re: [U2] Regarding: programming Techinques
Satya Google Jonathan E Sisk for a good book on the architecture, (and it's built in BASIC programming SQL language) if that's what you're looking for. There are many variations (Unidata / Universe / D3 Revelation / etc) but the basic database architecture is the same. Pickwiki has source code as well as great articles. T24All has code and processes specific to jBase/Globus, but since jBase is Pick based, similar to Universe) it can help. On 5 June 2012 06:08, Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com wrote: The difference between logic and syntax is huge. Common reference manuals are intended to provide details for people who already understand the environment. In addition to the guide on techniques referenced below, look for code at http://PickWiki.com. There you'll find a lot of functional code in-context, which might be far more ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
