[U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
 I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
 lives).
 
 Can I map a VOC pointer?

Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a
network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises
a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
 Other thoughts?

Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs
from Windows to nix.

Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory
and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's
happened to it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory
where you can use nix commands to copy.
 
 Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
 John
 
Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
We use Samba to move 1000's of interface transaction files across from Windows 
servers to a HP-UX UniVerse server daily. The Windows server creates the file, 
and UV on the HP-UX box picks them up. The directories and files are create on 
the HP-UX server through a Samba share. Haven't tried it the other way where 
the directories/files actually live on Windows. HTH

 
 
 
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
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Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Frailey

winftp, windows ftp explorer or any other windows ftp package
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I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
lives).


Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy from 
Windows to Unix.

What would the syntax be to copy?


Thanks


JRI


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Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
 I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
 lives).
 
 Can I map a VOC pointer?

Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a network path 
in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises a network path 
it'll probably refuse to access it.

And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
 Other thoughts?

Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs from 
Windows to nix.

Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory and use 
smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's happened to it) to 
make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can use nix commands 
to copy.
 
 Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
 John
 
Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Frailey

make sure if you use some sort of ftp that your set the transfer to binary
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Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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Marc

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John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp.

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData 
lives).


Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
Samba should be fine for this then... 
Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
Map it on the Windows server.
Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on the 
Windows server.
If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that is 
either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick off.
 
Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the HP 
box.
Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know it's 
available for processing.
We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of 
interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.
 
Rob

 
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before,
this could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on
the web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R. 
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


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 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a network
 path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD recognises a network
 path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the pdfs
 from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory and
 use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can use
 nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
It appears HP, may have their own version of samba too- if you wanted to
utilize HP support.
https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do%3Fhpweb_printable%3Dtrue%26productNumber%3DB8725AA




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org wrote:

 Samba should be fine for this then...
 Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
 Map it on the Windows server.
 Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on
 the Windows server.
 If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that is
 either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick off.

 Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
 We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the
 HP box.
 Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know it's
 available for processing.
 We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of
 interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.

 Rob


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 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst
 Laboratory Information Services
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

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Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


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 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Robert Porter
It's part of the HP-UX... look for CIFS server.
 


 John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com 3/4/2013 3:06 PM  ( 
 mailto:jthompson...@gmail.com )
...
Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on
the web, it might make your life easier.

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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
You also might be better off using winscp on the windows server.
You could write a program/script to SCP the files over to the HP-UX
server every night.
WinSCP has some nice windows command line options.

Chances are you already have ssh, or ftp installed in HP-UX.

http://winscp.net/eng/index.php


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:11 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote:

 It appears HP, may have their own version of samba too- if you wanted to
 utilize HP support.

 https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do%3Fhpweb_printable%3Dtrue%26productNumber%3DB8725AA




 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.orgwrote:

 Samba should be fine for this then...
 Create a directory type file in UD and setup Samba to share this.
 Map it on the Windows server.
 Define some process @ whatever time you like to copy/write the files on
 the Windows server.
 If they need to be processed somehow on the UD side, create a task that
 is either time dependent, cyclical or signaled by Windows server to kick
 off.

 Easy Peasy and it's been rock solid for us.
 We write a transaction file on the Windows server to a Samba share on the
 HP box.
 Then write a 0 byte file telling that UV watches for, letting it know
 it's available for processing.
 We do 1000's of transactions (probably 10's of 1000's) across hundreds of
 interface directories with only 2 phantoms in very near real time.

 Rob


 Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java
 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst
 Laboratory Information Services
 Ochsner Health System


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
ftp can be used without user intervention
thats how we do it, in several nightly runs for various processes

 

 

 

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Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


JRI

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John,

If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp. 

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData lives).

Can I map a VOC pointer?

Other thoughts?

Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


John
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread John Thompson
If you already have samba on HP-UX, then, and you want to pursue the samba
route.

You can mount a windows share on the HP-UX machine.

I know how to do this in Linux and could post a decent how-to, BUT, I have
never done it in HP-UX.

Found a random blog entry here:
http://www.blog.rogersit.net/hp-ux-cifs-mount-windows-share/2012/03/27/


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 ftp can be used without user intervention
 thats how we do it, in several nightly runs for various processes







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 Nightly background run every night.  It has to work w/o user intervention.


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 John,

 If this is one-time manual transfer I would suggest you use ftp.

 Marc Rutherford
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 661) 362 1754


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 Subject: [U2] VOC Pointer

 I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where UniData
 lives).

 Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Other thoughts?

 Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.


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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
Hang on Kee Mo Sa Be.
I thought you wanted to map a VOC pointer ?
That implies you want to run this from *inside* U2... not from Unix, but rather 
from BASIC ?

 

 

 

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From: Rutherford, Marc marc.rutherf...@advancedbionics.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it 
from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  THAT 
is 
the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be great from 
Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from Unix 
(unless 
I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com 
wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and 
no real timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:24 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Israel, John R.
From a basic pgm, yes, but I can run UNIX commands as needed.

I might be off course here.

See E-mail from a minute ago for a full picture.

JRI


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:32 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

Hang on Kee Mo Sa Be.
I thought you wanted to map a VOC pointer ?
That implies you want to run this from *inside* U2... not from Unix, but rather 
from BASIC ?

 

 

 

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From: Rutherford, Marc marc.rutherf...@advancedbionics.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com 
wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
 Wol
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
You can create a script, which runs in Unidata/Unix, that simply ftp's into a 
directory and copies *everything* sitting there.
And this can be done automatically without user intervention.


 

 

 

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From: Israel, John R. johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer


Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I 
would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when 
the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference 
boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and no real 
timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:24 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it 
from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  THAT 
is 
the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be great from 
Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from Unix 
(unless 
I am completely missing the point).


JRI

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com 
wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the 

Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: Israel, John R. 
 I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where
 UniData lives). Can I map a VOC pointer? Other thoughts?
 Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.

I'm not as familiar with internals in UV/UD as with other platforms so
this may not apply - and I'm eager to understand exactly how these
systems Do work in this regard...

If you create a Voc pointer and use Copy, I believe the DBMS would
pull data through the virtual machine, drawing it into the DBMS from
the source, applying EOL/AM conversions, then writing it back out to
the target with similar character translation. That can be hugely
painful.

On other platforms that have a virtual machine environment (blob),
overflow frames, etc, that would also mean pulling lots of frames from
overflow and then just releasing them. Again, a major performance
issue at the time of operation, and a source of rapid overflow
fragmentation if done too often.

I agree with the suggestions by others to use FTP, etc, and for the
reason stated here I would strongly discourage using DBMS verbs for
OS-level file transfers.

Now, can someone familiar with UV and UD internals confirm or correct
that?

Thanks.
T

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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Rutherford, Marc
If I better understand your process I suggest:

Create a Unidata directory file:   CREATE-FILE DIR filename

Share that resulting Unix directory as per suggestions with samba.

Map a windows drive to said directory.

---  Have the pdf-create process write the pdf files directly to the share 
drive.

Presto: the pdf are in the Unix directory.  They are visible as record IDs by 
listing the Unidata DIR filename.   

Since they are already in a Unix directory go ahead and do you tar magic...

If you want to read them directly into UNIBASIC I would open the DIR file with 
a OPENSEQ for best performance.

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

Let me give a full picture.

I have a program on our Unix box running UniData.  This program processes a 
BUNCH of nightly stuff including the launching of our PDF invoices which are 
built on a Windows server (I have no control of that).  When the job finishes, 
one of the things I need to do is verify that the PDFs were in fact created and 
then send them out to a 3rd party source to be printed, stuffed and mailed.  I 
thought it would be easier to copy the PDFs back to a temp folder on the Unix 
box, tar them and send them to the 3rd party processing company.

I understand that I could have a job on the Windows box do this part, but then 
I would need some mechanism to fire off the script on the WIndows box.  Then, 
when the Windows script is done, it would need some way to fire off/release the 
continuation of the tasks on the Unix box.  Timing is important here.

It may seem clumsy to pull the PDFs back on the Unix box, but I was trying to 
keep all the control in one place and not try to chain things between 
difference boxes and hope I got my timings right.  Fewer points of failure and 
no real timing issues.

STOP LAUGHING AT ME!


JRI


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So --- you want to a Unix process to drive a script (Remote Procedure Call) 
which would run on Windows;  the RPC would gather the required files from 
elsewhere in the Windows world a copy them to the share folder?

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows 

[U2] WRITESEQ and input buffer

2013-03-04 Thread Cook, Amy
We seem to be running up against a size limitation using WRITESEQ since
increasing shared memory parameters on Friday. (SHM_GPAGESZ,
SHM_LMINENTS, SHM_LCINENTS)

I'm looking at ADMINNT.pdf, trying to determine if EXPBLKSIZE relates
specifically to the input buffer that WRITESEQ uses.

Suggestions? 
TIA,
Amy
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/13 21:11, Israel, John R. wrote:
 I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do 
 it all the time.
 
 The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
 it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
 THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
 great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command 
 from Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).

mount -t cifs //windows/share /mnt/windowsdrive -o user=username -o
pass=password

This will enable you to copy from the unix box. You'll need to hunt up
what you need to install to get the -t cifs option but it should come
with samba - man mount.cifs.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] WRITESEQ and input buffer

2013-03-04 Thread Wjhonson
Can you describe the issue you're seeing more specifically?


 

 

 

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Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 2:10 pm
Subject: [U2] WRITESEQ and input buffer


We seem to be running up against a size limitation using WRITESEQ since
increasing shared memory parameters on Friday. (SHM_GPAGESZ,
SHM_LMINENTS, SHM_LCINENTS)

I'm looking at ADMINNT.pdf, trying to determine if EXPBLKSIZE relates
specifically to the input buffer that WRITESEQ uses.

Suggestions? 
TIA,
Amy
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Re: [U2] WRITESEQ and input buffer

2013-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/13 22:08, Cook, Amy wrote:
 We seem to be running up against a size limitation using WRITESEQ since
 increasing shared memory parameters on Friday. (SHM_GPAGESZ,
 SHM_LMINENTS, SHM_LCINENTS)
 
 I'm looking at ADMINNT.pdf, trying to determine if EXPBLKSIZE relates
 specifically to the input buffer that WRITESEQ uses.
 
Please please please DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT hit reply to someone else's
mail and change the subject. Start a new email.

The reason for this is that any decent email client will track what
message replies to what, and your new message will get hidden inside a
totally unrelated thread. (a) that can be very annoying (I hate it), and
(b) it makes your messages a nightmare to track down if someone wants to
find them later. Which could hurt you if they've suddenly thought of an
answer for you ...

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Cheney
How about using scp with public/private key authentication running from a unix 
cron to scp from the windows host to a dir on the unix host? Requires ssh 
installed on both hosts.

I've also installed Cygwin on a windows host in the past and used that for the 
ssh/scp component as you get a nice unix flavour when you ssh in remotely.

Alternatively as someone has already said try using smbmount to mount a windows 
share on a unix dir and use unix cp or mv. Requires samba installed on your 
HPUX host and that install must have the smbmount (or equivalent) utility.

You could also use ftp to fetch the files from the windows server. Requires ftp 
server installed on windows host.

All the above could be driven from within a UD/UV basic program.

HTH
Peter


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 7:12
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

I have done things from Window to UNIX with Samba before.  As you say, we do it 
all the time.

The issue I have is I need my Unix box to grab the data from Windows and copy 
it from Windows to Unix.  The copy needs to be run from Unix, not Windows.  
THAT is the problem I am having.  Mapping a network drive in Windows will be 
great from Windows, but will not solve the problem of issuing the command from 
Unix (unless I am completely missing the point).


JRI

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

If copying from the windows server to the HP-UX machine...
If you use the samba method... you would need:

1) Samba installed on HP-UX server running Unidata
2) Setup a share to share a directory on HP-UX
3) Map the network drive on the Windows Server
4) Just do a standard windows copy from one drive letter to the other

That being said, my steps above are grossly over-simplified
If you have never done a samba install on HP-UX and configuration before, this 
could take you several days/weeks.

If its a one time deal, then the previous posters idea of ftp, is so much 
easier.

Its been a number of years, since I put samba on HP-UX.
If you can find a package that utilizes swinstall (sam) somewhere out on the 
web, it might make your life easier.





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Israel, John R.  
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com wrote:

 We have used Samba other ways, but I have never actually tried to copy 
 from Windows to Unix.

 What would the syntax be to copy?


 Thanks


 JRI


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 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:45 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

 On 04/03/13 20:36, Israel, John R. wrote:
  I need to copy PDFs from a Windows server into a UNIX dir (where 
  UniData
 lives).
 
  Can I map a VOC pointer?

 Can the unix machine see a windows share? You MAY be able to put a 
 network path in field 2 of a voc entry, but by default, if UD 
 recognises a network path it'll probably refuse to access it.

 And is copying PDFs (binary files) using the UD command line a good idea?
 
  Other thoughts?

 Put samba on the HPUX box, share your HPUX directory, and copy the 
 pdfs from Windows to nix.

 Or if you need to do it from the nix end, share your Windows directory 
 and use smbmount (probably part of samba, I'm not quite sure what's 
 happened to
 it) to make the windows share look like a nix directory where you can 
 use nix commands to copy.
 
  Running HPUX, UniData 7.2.1.
 
  John
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] VOC Pointer [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2013-03-04 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Or, instead of SAMBA on the HP-UX system, you could have an NFS share on
the Windows box - Windows Server 2008 has Microsoft NFS Services for
Windows and there are several freeware / shareware / commercial NFS
clients for Windows.

Lots of ways to skin this particular cat

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Subject: Re: [U2] VOC Pointer

How about using scp with public/private key authentication running from
a unix cron to scp from the windows host to a dir on the unix host?
Requires ssh installed on both hosts.

I've also installed Cygwin on a windows host in the past and used that
for the ssh/scp component as you get a nice unix flavour when you ssh in
remotely.

Alternatively as someone has already said try using smbmount to mount a
windows share on a unix dir and use unix cp or mv. Requires samba
installed on your HPUX host and that install must have the smbmount (or
equivalent) utility.

You could also use ftp to fetch the files from the windows server.
Requires ftp server installed on windows host.

All the above could be driven from within a UD/UV basic program.

HTH
Peter

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