Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)

2013-04-25 Thread Allen Egerton

On 4/25/2013 5:36 PM, Randy Styka wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> It's been a long time since I posted here but our company, Computronics,
> has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems since 1993.  It is most
> often used for remote support, to see what is on someone's screen.  And,
> if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help them
> out or close out programs.  
> 
> But one of the other uses is for logging.  PEEK can be set up to fire off
> a background process when a user logs in.  That process is independent of
> the user, and can run under another id.  It can then write a log of either
> all keystrokes of the user (input only mode) or of input and the resulting
> output.  Since it runs under a different id, the logs can be placed where
> you want and they can't be modified or accessed by the user being "peeked"
> on.
> 
> If this is of interest, visit http://www.computronics.com and look for
> information on PEEK.  The manuals are there and a free trial is available.
> Note we are UNIX only (we don't do Windows ;-)
> 
> If you have questions, email me at ra...@computronics.com.  Thanks!  Randy
> 
> ++
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For what it may be worth; I'm happy to vouch for Randy and Computronics
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Daniel McGrath
What doug said. :)

Just ask for an "Eval License"

Cheers,
Dan

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
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You can get "demo" licenses from your VAR or the one you pay maintenance to.  
There are 30 day demo licenses available and I would know we are a Rocket VAR.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Kevin Le  wrote:

> I see that you are from Rocket,
>
> Are there any 30 day licenses?  My company would like to see a proof 
> in concept first.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Doug Averch
You can get "demo" licenses from your VAR or the one you pay maintenance
to.  There are 30 day demo licenses available and I would know we are a
Rocket VAR.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Kevin Le  wrote:

> I see that you are from Rocket,
>
> Are there any 30 day licenses?  My company would like to see a proof in
> concept first.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Wjhonson
If you have a COMO running, and you run some *other* process that itself starts 
a COMO, it will stomp on the first one :)


 

 

 

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On 24/04/13 22:54, Tom Whitmore wrote:
> Hi,
> Can you provide more information on what you are trying to capture? (edits, 
list commands, etc.)  I suspect that you may be able to put security on the 
commands you are concerned with and address the problem with less "pain".
> 
> The problem with using the command stack or a COMO is that they are easily 
modifiable.  You may want to consider using a Unix "Tee" to capture all output 
which isn't as easy to turn off.  Having said that, I'm not a "Unix" expert so 
I 
can't offer the command string you should use but I'm sure someone will provide 
it.

And if you're supposed to be logging power users, are they the sort of
user who will know about the COMO command? It's not stackable, so if
they have a genuine reason for wanting to use it (eg
programming/debugging), they're going to innocently mess up your logging.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin Le
I see that you are from Rocket,

Are there any 30 day licenses?  My company would like to see a proof in
concept first.

Thanks,


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Daniel McGrath  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, you should be able to replicate from AIX to another platform. Please
> keep in mind that CentOS isn't an officially supported platform.
>
> No, you cannot replicate from your current system to a PE edition of the
> database; you will need to by a second license.
>
> You should probably contact your support provider to help get your started
> in setting this up.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dan McGrath
> Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab
> Rocket Software
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Le
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:59 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX
>
> I was hoping there was a way to do it with Unidata built in replication.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Robert Frailey  >wrote:
>
> > http://www.backupcentral.com/**phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-**
> > external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-**tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-**
> > aix-to-linux-121397/ > rs-of-external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-aix-t
> > o-linux-121397/>
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Kevin Le" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX
> >
> >
> >  Anyone out there in the universe?  :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a
> >>> live replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am
> >>> running version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another
> >>> product?  Or is this feature built in to unidata similarly to to
> >>> something like mysql.  Can I replicate to a the PE?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Daniel McGrath
Hi Kevin,

Yes, you should be able to replicate from AIX to another platform. Please keep 
in mind that CentOS isn't an officially supported platform.

No, you cannot replicate from your current system to a PE edition of the 
database; you will need to by a second license.

You should probably contact your support provider to help get your started in 
setting this up.

Cheers,

Dan McGrath
Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab
Rocket Software


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Le
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:59 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

I was hoping there was a way to do it with Unidata built in replication.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

> http://www.backupcentral.com/**phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-**
> external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-**tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-**
> aix-to-linux-121397/ rs-of-external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-aix-t
> o-linux-121397/>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kevin Le" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX
>
>
>  Anyone out there in the universe?  :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a 
>>> live replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am 
>>> running version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another 
>>> product?  Or is this feature built in to unidata similarly to to 
>>> something like mysql.  Can I replicate to a the PE?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>  __**_
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin Le
I was hoping there was a way to do it with Unidata built in replication.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

> http://www.backupcentral.com/**phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-**
> external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-**tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-**
> aix-to-linux-121397/
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kevin Le" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX
>
>
>  Anyone out there in the universe?  :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a live
>>> replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am running
>>> version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another product?  Or is
>>> this
>>> feature built in to unidata similarly to to something like mysql.  Can I
>>> replicate to a the PE?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>  __**_
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[U2] Write failure FB8 error!

2013-04-25 Thread Aramaies Baghdasraian
Good afternoon,

I was wondering if anyone has seen "pc = FB8" WRITE FAILURE errors on universe.
I am running a module which updates the account numbers in G/L file.
The program does a readseq, removes, control characters, and attempts to write 
10 digit G/L numbers into G/L file.
It runs properly in development and test accounts, however in production 
platform it fails on different account numbers and give "write failure" error 
msg.
I have added display command to display the account numbers as program 
runs..and the final run crashed with the WRITE FAILURE pc FB8 error.

Any idea/comments will be appreciated!

Ara Baghdasraian

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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Frailey

http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-external-mailing-lists-3/ibm-tsm-13/moving-tsm-server-from-aix-to-linux-121397/
- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Le" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX



Anyone out there in the universe?  :)


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:


Hello,

I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a live
replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am running
version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another product?  Or is 
this

feature built in to unidata similarly to to something like mysql.  Can I
replicate to a the PE?

Thanks,


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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Frailey

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Unix/AIX/Q_24931430.html
- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Le" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX



Anyone out there in the universe?  :)


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:


Hello,

I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a live
replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am running
version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another product?  Or is 
this

feature built in to unidata similarly to to something like mysql.  Can I
replicate to a the PE?

Thanks,


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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Peter Cheney
I guess it depends on what legislation you must comply with for auditing 
purposes and what you can get away with. If you have to log everything then I'd 
agree that the unix tee command as others suggest would be best. The following 
works OK on our AIX dev box but there are a few strange terminal characters in 
the log file that might make parsing difficult and require some quality time 
with sed and/or awk. A log roll utility should also be employed to regularly 
compress and archive the resulting logs once they reach a certain size/age.

$ `cat /.uvhome`/bin/uv | tee -a /var/uvlogs/user1.log

If you just need to lock down and/or log the relevant UV verbs then remote VOC 
pointers will do the job. This might include a false TCL program invoked at 
login or when exiting from the menu (e.g. loop, input, log, execute, repeat) 
that just logs everything at TCL.

Doctoring the TCL verbs for logging/security would require to disable break and 
possibly make exceptions for any phantoms and other background/batch jobs 
though which may be more effort to implement thoroughly.

HTH
Peter

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

For PCI compliance, we are tasked to log/capture all TCL entries and responses. 
I am familiar with COMO, which is one possible solution. 

1) What other TCL logging methods are available in UniVerse besides COMO?

2) What AIX Unix tools are available to capture keyboard input and responses at 
TCL?



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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)

2013-04-25 Thread Randy Styka
Hi!

It's been a long time since I posted here but our company, Computronics,
has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems since 1993.  It is most
often used for remote support, to see what is on someone's screen.  And,
if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help them
out or close out programs.  

But one of the other uses is for logging.  PEEK can be set up to fire off
a background process when a user logs in.  That process is independent of
the user, and can run under another id.  It can then write a log of either
all keystrokes of the user (input only mode) or of input and the resulting
output.  Since it runs under a different id, the logs can be placed where
you want and they can't be modified or accessed by the user being "peeked"
on.

If this is of interest, visit http://www.computronics.com and look for
information on PEEK.  The manuals are there and a free trial is available.
Note we are UNIX only (we don't do Windows ;-)

If you have questions, email me at ra...@computronics.com.  Thanks!  Randy

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Re: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Frailey
This stems from past experience when someone just decided to resize and 
comes to me later asking for last nights backup, and the file got hosed.
I backup every night but spot backups take minutes as apposed to re-entering 
all the days data after restoring last nights backup.
When some one suggests something possibly scary, the first thing that comes 
to mind is a simple copy or backup.
I run guide on each of the four live databases on the weekend when my 
programmer feels it's getting sluggish or strange errors in data show up.
That tells me the files I should be looking at, hit lists. If it's scary, I 
make a copy of the account to a pilot and test the filesizing first. If it's 
good I hit the live account.


Thank You

Robert Frailey
Manager Information Systems
Utah Medical Products Inc.
Femcare-Nikomed Ltd.
rfrai...@utahmed.com
801-569-4016


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"make a backup first"   Comforting!

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make a backup first
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Before I go and resize a 144GB file has anyone had any experiences with
the INPLACE option of RESIZE in UniVerse?  Good, bad, ugly???

Thanks.
Perry

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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Phil Walker
Look at Centrify DirectControl and DirectAudit, we use them and they work 
pretty well.

www.centrify.com


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I can't speak for UV, but we've been required to log all sessions for specific 
powerful users. It becomes a little simpler if you do it for all users. Make 
sure you have some type of automated purge of whatever log files you create or 
you'll probably start filling up your file system. 

This is what we're doing under UD7.1. Nothing fancy.


We added this to our LOGIN:

PQ
HRUN DIR COMO.PROG
P


And here's what's in COMO.PROG

USERS = 'user1, user2, user3'
IF INDEX(USERS,@LOGNAME,1) > 0 THEN
  FN = @LOGNAME:'_':@USERNO:'_':DATE():'_':TIME()
  DATA FN
  EXECUTE 'COMO ON'
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Re: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

2013-04-25 Thread Perry Taylor
"make a backup first"   Comforting!

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make a backup first
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From: "Perry Taylor" 
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Subject: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE


> Before I go and resize a 144GB file has anyone had any experiences with 
> the INPLACE option of RESIZE in UniVerse?  Good, bad, ugly???
>
> Thanks.
> Perry
>
> Perry Taylor
> Senior MV Architect
> ZirMed
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Re: [U2] Unidata and Replication from AIX

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin Le
Anyone out there in the universe?  :)


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Le  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a unidata database running on an IBM AIX... I want to do a live
> replication, but to a CentOS server.  Is that possible?  I am running
> version 7.2... does it require me to purchase another product?  Or is this
> feature built in to unidata similarly to to something like mysql.  Can I
> replicate to a the PE?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Frailey
Could also be a huge drag on your processors and storage. Lots of 
read/writes and at the unidata level, the block size,modulo and hash type.
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From: "Susan Joslyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO



Hi.

I'm with Tom on this - capturing EVERYTHING that EVERYONE types is a lot 
of

data - much of it not interesting.  May be smarter to identify the verbs
that can actually cause 'change' and put them in a remote voc.  That way 
you

can put both preventive and detective controls on them as well.



PRC can do this for you, too.  (PRC is software configuration management /
software life cycle management/ IT Governance for U2).



This is crazy but .call me maybe!



Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

sjos...@sjplus.com

(954-796-9868)



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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:54:36 -0400

From: Tom Whitmore 

To: U2 Users List 

Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

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Hi,

Can you provide more information on what you are trying to capture? 
(edits,
list commands, etc.)  I suspect that you may be able to put security on 
the

commands you are concerned with and address the problem with less "pain".



The problem with using the command stack or a COMO is that they are easily
modifiable.  You may want to consider using a Unix "Tee" to capture all
output which isn't as easy to turn off.  Having said that, I'm not a 
"Unix"

expert so I can't offer the command string you should use but I'm sure
someone will provide it.



Tom Whitmore

RATEX Business Solutions



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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:35 PM

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

Subject: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO



For PCI compliance, we are tasked to log/capture all TCL entries and
responses. I am familiar with COMO, which is one possible solution.



1) What other TCL logging methods are available in UniVerse besides COMO?



2) What AIX Unix tools are available to capture keyboard input and 
responses

at TCL?







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Re: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

2013-04-25 Thread Tom Whitmore
Check with support.  IF it works, it is a very recent fix.   Personally, that 
size file I would rename then create a file with the correct size then copy all 
the data over and use the overwrite option.  (overwrite will reduce the IO 
because it doesn't have to check if the record exists).

Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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Subject: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

Before I go and resize a 144GB file has anyone had any experiences with the 
INPLACE option of RESIZE in UniVerse?  Good, bad, ugly???

Thanks.
Perry

Perry Taylor
Senior MV Architect
ZirMed
888 West Market Street, Suite 400
Louisville, KY 40202
www.zirmed.com



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Re: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Frailey

make a backup first
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From: "Perry Taylor" 

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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: [U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE


Before I go and resize a 144GB file has anyone had any experiences with 
the INPLACE option of RESIZE in UniVerse?  Good, bad, ugly???


Thanks.
Perry

Perry Taylor
Senior MV Architect
ZirMed
888 West Market Street, Suite 400
Louisville, KY 40202
www.zirmed.com



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[U2] [UV] RESIZE INPLACE

2013-04-25 Thread Perry Taylor
Before I go and resize a 144GB file has anyone had any experiences with the 
INPLACE option of RESIZE in UniVerse?  Good, bad, ugly???

Thanks.
Perry

Perry Taylor
Senior MV Architect
ZirMed
888 West Market Street, Suite 400
Louisville, KY 40202
www.zirmed.com



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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Woodward, Bob
Hi maybe!

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:17 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

Hi.

I'm with Tom on this - capturing EVERYTHING that EVERYONE types is a lot
of data - much of it not interesting.  May be smarter to identify the
verbs that can actually cause 'change' and put them in a remote voc.
That way you can put both preventive and detective controls on them as
well.

 

PRC can do this for you, too.  (PRC is software configuration management
/ software life cycle management/ IT Governance for U2).

 

This is crazy but .call me maybe!

 

Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

sjos...@sjplus.com

(954-796-9868)

 

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:54:36 -0400

From: Tom Whitmore 

To: U2 Users List 

Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

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Hi,

Can you provide more information on what you are trying to capture?
(edits, list commands, etc.)  I suspect that you may be able to put
security on the commands you are concerned with and address the problem
with less "pain".

 

The problem with using the command stack or a COMO is that they are
easily modifiable.  You may want to consider using a Unix "Tee" to
capture all output which isn't as easy to turn off.  Having said that,
I'm not a "Unix"
expert so I can't offer the command string you should use but I'm sure
someone will provide it.

 

Tom Whitmore

RATEX Business Solutions

 

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zachary

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:35 PM

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

Subject: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

 

For PCI compliance, we are tasked to log/capture all TCL entries and
responses. I am familiar with COMO, which is one possible solution. 

 

1) What other TCL logging methods are available in UniVerse besides
COMO?

 

2) What AIX Unix tools are available to capture keyboard input and
responses at TCL?

 

 

 

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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Susan Joslyn
Hi.

I'm with Tom on this - capturing EVERYTHING that EVERYONE types is a lot of
data - much of it not interesting.  May be smarter to identify the verbs
that can actually cause 'change' and put them in a remote voc.  That way you
can put both preventive and detective controls on them as well.

 

PRC can do this for you, too.  (PRC is software configuration management /
software life cycle management/ IT Governance for U2).

 

This is crazy but .call me maybe!

 

Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

sjos...@sjplus.com

(954-796-9868)

 

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:54:36 -0400

From: Tom Whitmore 

To: U2 Users List 

Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 

Hi,

Can you provide more information on what you are trying to capture? (edits,
list commands, etc.)  I suspect that you may be able to put security on the
commands you are concerned with and address the problem with less "pain".

 

The problem with using the command stack or a COMO is that they are easily
modifiable.  You may want to consider using a Unix "Tee" to capture all
output which isn't as easy to turn off.  Having said that, I'm not a "Unix"
expert so I can't offer the command string you should use but I'm sure
someone will provide it.

 

Tom Whitmore

RATEX Business Solutions

 

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zachary

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:35 PM

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

Subject: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

 

For PCI compliance, we are tasked to log/capture all TCL entries and
responses. I am familiar with COMO, which is one possible solution. 

 

1) What other TCL logging methods are available in UniVerse besides COMO?

 

2) What AIX Unix tools are available to capture keyboard input and responses
at TCL?

 

 

 

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Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging such as COMO

2013-04-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/04/13 22:54, Tom Whitmore wrote:
> Hi,
> Can you provide more information on what you are trying to capture? (edits, 
> list commands, etc.)  I suspect that you may be able to put security on the 
> commands you are concerned with and address the problem with less "pain".
> 
> The problem with using the command stack or a COMO is that they are easily 
> modifiable.  You may want to consider using a Unix "Tee" to capture all 
> output which isn't as easy to turn off.  Having said that, I'm not a "Unix" 
> expert so I can't offer the command string you should use but I'm sure 
> someone will provide it.

And if you're supposed to be logging power users, are they the sort of
user who will know about the COMO command? It's not stackable, so if
they have a genuine reason for wanting to use it (eg
programming/debugging), they're going to innocently mess up your logging.

Cheers,
Wol
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