Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
George, I think Dawn's emphasis was on survive, and that doesn't necessarily mean thrive. To my ears the Rocket business plan for legacy products sounds more like running a rest home for no longer wanted technology They keep it alive as long as there is a profit to be made from licence and

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread George Land
My understanding of the logic of this is that the U2 people are so excited about it because it will allow them to invest in product development in a meaningful way. To describe Rocket as a rest home for no longer wanted technology is very harsh, what they are is an OEM specialist. A big part of

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Leach
List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie My understanding of the logic of this is that the U2 people are so excited about it because it will allow them to invest in product development in a meaningful way. To describe Rocket as a rest home for no longer wanted technology is very harsh, what

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread Results
One point to consider... IBM owns tons of databases but they only publicly talk about 1: DB2. Rocket doesn't own any databases. If they want to be in that market, U2 is 100% of their stake. Nothing is certain, but that is encouraging. - Chuck Mecki Foerthmann wrote: George, I think

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread Lance Andersen
I think time will tell whether they will grow the business or do what was done with Primos when Peritus just provided support for Prime Computer customers for several years with old Prime Computer personnel. Out of curiosity, What is the annual revenue stream for U2? Is it more than

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-17 Thread Brutzman, Bill
To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie George, I think Dawn's emphasis was on survive, and that doesn't necessarily mean thrive. To my ears the Rocket business plan for legacy products sounds more like running a rest home for no longer wanted technology They keep it alive as long

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Ross Ferris
September 2009 7:56 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Hard to view this as a positive no matter what spin is put on it. Smacks of being a part of Mercedes and then belonging to Joe's garage... Marketing of U2 (if there is such a thing) just took a serious blow to the gut

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Lance J. Andersen
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Randall Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 7:56 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Hard to view this as a positive no matter what spin is put on it. Smacks of being a part of Mercedes

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Results
All, I've been speaking to an executive at Rocket and more calls are being scheduled. What I've heard so far is vague (legal reasons) but very upbeat. The next call should contain some genuine news. As I get it, you will get it and it will be posted on U2UG.org. - Charles Staying On The

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Charles Stevenson
Chuck, Impress upon Rocket the need for THEM to make a public statement. It's nice to hear news from you from Susie, and I look forward to reading whatever you post, but, come on, Rocket! the new owners need to say something. Chuck All, I've been speaking to an executive at Rocket and

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Results
Charles, Agreed and already asked for... I expect to have something from their President. As soon as we see it, U2UG.org will feature it. - Chuck Charles Stevenson wrote: Chuck, Impress upon Rocket the need for THEM to make a public statement. It's nice to hear news from you from

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread George Land
Personally I view it as a very good sign that they are taking a back seat and letting the U2 people get their message out to their customers. Sure a message from the new owners is needed soon but not doing it up front is a sign that they are interested letting the team get on with the business

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Scholl
, September 16, 2009 3:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Personally I view it as a very good sign that they are taking a back seat and letting the U2 people get their message out to their customers. Sure a message from the new owners is needed soon but not doing it up front

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Scholl
, September 16, 2009 3:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Personally I view it as a very good sign that they are taking a back seat and letting the U2 people get their message out to their customers. Sure a message from the new owners is needed soon but not doing it up front

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread George Gallen
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie GOOD NEWS, my ass. I view this as near catastrophic. Rocket Software, what a bullshit name. Just like

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
I hope you are right. But what if they are not even interested in selling new seats and are quite happy to collect licence and support fees without doing any new development? After all this is corporate America and acquisitions are not necessarily made to drive a product forward. IBM can show

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread George Land
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Personally I view it as a very good sign that they are taking a back seat and letting the U2 people get their message out to their customers. Sure a message from the new owners is needed soon

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread George Land
'It's being so cheerful that keeps me going' Maybe the world is going to end, but this is an initiative that is fully supported by Susie and her team, maybe even initiated by them. You don't buy a business to kill it. There are no assets to strip, all that matters is getting revenue from new

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
, who owns it, etc. Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:41:34 +0100 From: mec...@gmx.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie I hope you are right. But what if they are not even interested in selling new seats and are quite happy to collect licence and support

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-16 Thread doug chanco
2:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Chuck, Impress upon Rocket the need for THEM to make a public statement. It's nice to hear news from you from Susie, and I look forward to reading whatever you post, but, come on, Rocket! the new owners need to say something. Chuck

[U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-15 Thread Results
All, I just got off the phone with Susie Seigesmund. She has assured me that her entire team has been invited to stay together, Rocket didn't just buy the software or the customer list or the channel, they are buying into the people who supported us all along. More news as I have it.

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-15 Thread Baker Hughes
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Results Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie All, I just got off the phone with Susie Seigesmund. She

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-15 Thread Glenn Batson
: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Looking at their website, from the number of offices that Rocket has, it looks like they grant some autonomy to the Product/Groups they purchase. This could bode well for Susie and her group if they are given more latitude to do what they need to 'to build a better

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-15 Thread Kurt Neumann
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes [baker.hug...@mouser.com] Sent: 15 September 2009 11:11 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie Looking at their website, from the number

Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Randall
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Results Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie All, I just got off the phone with Susie Seigesmund. She has assured me that her entire team has been invited