With other words nothing I really need like manipulating a U2 database.
Does it make cups of tea too?
Well, I don't like cups of tea, so why should I change?
Steve Romanow wrote:
Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do
All,
Please keep it polite. This is a civilized list.
- Charles Barouch
resu...@keyally.com
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Mecki,
My apologies for being confrontational. This is a subject I care deeply about.
I have worked in mv shops exclusively since 1994 (not bragging) and my point
was primarily that the IT world has surpassed our tools by a large margin.
I have written my last complicated F-correlative and
Hi
I thought about adding code folding to mvDeveloper, but with Pick/Basic it
doesn't really work in the same way.
If you have a language that is function or member based, there is a very clear
boundary for each function, e.g.
private void doSomething{
code in here
}
which makes it easy to
Brian Leach wrote:
Hi
I thought about adding code folding to mvDeveloper, but with Pick/Basic it
doesn't really work in the same way.
If you have a language that is function or member based, there is a very clear
boundary for each function, e.g.
Could a mild folding (fold the ones there
Steve
I think you're possibly out of date in your view of the database - again, not
wanting to be confrontational but this is an important point that you raise.
I've also used MV for many years, but for the vast majority of that it has been
as part of a client/server or similar platform.
If
Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History
Steve
I think you're possibly out of date in your view of the database - again,
not wanting to be confrontational but this is an important point that you
raise.
I've also used MV for many years, but for the vast majority of that it has
been as part
Hi Brian,
How about adding a folding option that you can manually set the start
and end points and add your comments for the fold?
I use mvDeveloper for U2 development and textpad for other MV databases.
Kishor
Quoting Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk:
Hi
I thought about adding code
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steve Romanowslestak...@gmail.com wrote:
Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do with Pick
Basic?
Umm, real unit testing ala nosetest
I realize this is the U2 list, but I thought I
TY Dawn,
Very cool post. You laid it out there very nicely.
I hope to avoid the shiny new thing syndrome. I need to look up the book
reference you made.
WRT to the resurgence of mv-like data structures, no one will care that
we've been mv when mv wasn't cool.
Thanks guys for engaging me
Thanks guys for engaging me in this exercise. I'm usually
not this outspoken.
We *like* outspoken. It's better than leaving things unsaid grin.
Brian
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Brian Leach wrote:
Thanks guys for engaging me in this exercise. I'm usually
not this outspoken.
Look at the times of my posts. I should use Google's Beer Goggles. No
posts over 5 lines between 2am and 7am.
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1fdb619c0906290746n2d553c0ao867cb5d64327b...@mail.gmail.com, Dawn
Wolthuis dawnwolth...@gmail.com writes
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steve Romanowslestak...@gmail.com wrote:
Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database
Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
Just my two cents. cheers! --dawn
How come Dawn's two cents are always worth more than my two cents?
Don't answer that.
All, I've found lurking on this whole thread informative
thought-provoking. Thanks.
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of the
original comment, or something to that effect...
Allen
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Talking about never evolving pick basic. Can you imagine the posibilities if
we just abandoned pick basic and used something like python as the data
modeling language.
It would be unstoppable.
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It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do with Pick
Basic?
And do I really need to be able to do that to do my job improving and
maintaining commercial software in an SB+ Unidata environment any better?
Do I get paid more if I write code in
Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do with Pick
Basic?
Umm, real unit testing ala nosetest
real exception handling,
umm, real inline documentation (the topic of this thread)
Umm, access to thousands of trained
: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History
From: David A. Green
I've always commented my program at the beginning, but
some programs have many changes and when we have 300+
lines of comments it gets a little tedious to deal
with embedded in the source code.
I'm think
if you need
to see what changed.
Regards
Brian
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Another option is to have an accompanying wiki/vcs setup where a lot of
metadata about why and what can be stored outside of the code.
With version control, you fight the need to comment out old code and
leave it in. And the wiki can be as verbose as you want.
Ross - Your suggestion for folding on syntax is fine but it
doesn't go far enough. The mainstream development world
recognized what you're saying long ago, did it, and then improved
upon it again. We're sort of two generations behind in this
discussion.
Yes, Visual Studio folds C++, C#, and
I've always commented my program at the beginning, but some programs have
many changes and when we have 300+ lines of comments it gets a little
tedious to deal with embedded in the source code.
I'm think of placing them in an external file and then doing a $INSERT in
the source code in order
That might cause you problems if you use the u2 debugger.
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I've always commented my program at the beginning, but some programs have
many changes and when we have 300+ lines of comments it gets a little
tedious to deal with embedded in the source
Think about using xml for documentation in the source code, then some external
tools can be used for documentation.
*subRoutine to
* modAdded to
* mod Date .
* mod Author
Regards
David Jordan
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I've always commented my program at the beginning, but
some programs have many changes and when we have 300+
lines of comments it gets a little tedious to deal
with embedded in the source code.
I'm think of placing them in an external file and then
doing a $INSERT
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Subject: Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History
From: David A. Green
I've always commented my program at the beginning, but
some programs have many changes and when we have 300+
lines of comments it gets a little tedious to deal
with embedded
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