RE: UV on W2K3 - trying to add to path

2004-03-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
There IS some way of setting the environment. Don't ask me how :-(

Probably control panel and then somewhere deep in the bowels of
system management.

Cheers,
Wol 

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Hi Sara

I assume you mean when you do a dos command from universe over telnet.
If that is the case every time you do the dos cammand it launches
another DOS command execute, like launching another shell.  I am not
sure if there is a way of copying the variables from the base as you can
with unix.  I would run a bat that initialises those variables each time
you launch dos, or the other hand consider unix services for windows,
which gives unix people a more comfortable interface to windows.

Regards

David Jordan

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We are starting our evaluation of running UniVerse on W2K3.  To get a
feel of what it will be like and to scope the learning we need to do we
have set up a totally isolated W2K3 server (PDC) and have installed the
personal version of UniVerse while we wait for an NT version from IBM.
 
I added to the System Environment variables an extension to the PATH =
c:\IBM\UV\BIN
 
Problem - we do not get this in our telnet session.  It is fine in a cmd
session from the server but is missing from the telnet session.  Can
anyone explain how we add this on an NT platform.  Universe was
installed as Administrator and we have even tried using Administrator as
the user in the telnet session but that did not show the extra path.
Our personal user accounts are in the Admin group.
 
I can add this within my session as  PATH=%path%;c:\ibm\uv\bin and it
works. However this is lost next time.
 
I can see this is going to be an interesting learning curve for our DBAs
(Oracle and UniVerse) who have UNIX skills but little exposure to NT
apart from using a desktop. I will be on leave tomorrow (Friday) so I
will see if I can get the digest sent to me at home.
 
Thank you in anticipation
 
Sara Burns
 
Sara Burns (SEB) 
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Re: UniVerse 10 on Win2k3

2004-03-25 Thread Simon Lewington
John Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...

 1. Find out who put Windows shares on a database server and have a
 discussion with the person concerned.

Probably the same mindset as the person who decided SB+ file transfer would
use the %TEMP% directory - has anyone had the discussion with them ;-)



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RE: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread uniVerse mailing list
the AV got on their network because symantec corporate edition didn't detect it, 
despite their docs saying they can detect this family of virus's since December 2003 
(which is the third time in under a month i've had this happen on our network - 
although mcaffee doesn't detect this virus either and as of yesterday you have to 
request a specific patch from mcaffee support for this)

The problem in all our customer cases is that the database server is not firewalled 
from the rest of the network and I can't see a customer buying a firewall for *each* 
server that they need to run and only allowing the relevant ports to it.

Their entire network was *supposedly* firewalled with only certain ports going out, 
but I think the infection was caused by a user dialing into the internet on their 
laptop and then infecting the lan when plugging it in on monday morning

I liked simon's comment about the shares with SB and i'd also like to mention that the 
preferred method of communication on a windows server is via a network share and not 
sbz or ftp!

as to various versions of software, mcaffee kills the processing speed of pc's in a 
big way - (symantec is a little better).
the speed of updates is a big minus for symantec but i'd say that all a/v software is 
really slow to react at the moment with the amount of virus's.
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RE: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
We use sophos. www.sophos.com

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is
MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner
wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and
tell them they MUST install it.

Cheers,
Wol 

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At 10:35 25/03/04, you wrote:

snip

Can we have a straw poll on AV software? Just post a subject of
ANTIVIRUS -
(name) - (version) *GOOD* or *BAD* as necessary - let's hear it.

AVG vers 7.0 from Grisoft *VERY GOOD*

Even Grisoft's freebie vers 6 of AVG is also *GOOD*

http//:www.grisoft.com

Regards

JayJay



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SV: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Björn Eklund
Is anyone using AV software on Unix systems like Solaris?

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We use sophos. www.sophos.com

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is
MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner
wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and
tell them they MUST install it.

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RE: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread DAWES, Ray
Yes! We use sophos as below. We are pleased with it.

Ray

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Is anyone using AV software on Unix systems like Solaris?

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We use sophos. www.sophos.com

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is
MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner
wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and
tell them they MUST install it.

Cheers,
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RE: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Brian Leach
We used until very recently to run McAffee on Linux to scan all of our
emails.
It was slow and difficult to incorporate into our configs, but it was
effective.
Mind you, our mail server wasn't exactly the most powerful Linux box we were
running...

Now that is handled corporately, so I don’t know what we're running
centrally.
But each PC is set up with NAV or Symantec as a double check.

Brian

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We use sophos. www.sophos.com

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is MANDATORY
for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner wishes to
connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and tell them they
MUST install it.

Cheers,
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RE: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Brian Leach
Of course, as every article will tell you, the main thing is not what AV you
are running.
There are lots of good ones out there.
The main thing is to ensure that your definitions are kept up to date.
Otherwise they are all equally useless.

I did run one that used some form of heuristics to try to isolate potential
viruses for which it did not have a formal definition. It causes chaos,
identifying about one in 10 files as potentially infected. So I gave up on
that route and now just keep my auto-update running.

Brian

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Yes! We use sophos as below. We are pleased with it.

Ray

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Is anyone using AV software on Unix systems like Solaris?

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We use sophos. www.sophos.com

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is MANDATORY
for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner wishes to
connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and tell them they
MUST install it.

Cheers,
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Re: SV: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Donald Kibbey
No, no need to run the antivirus junk on a Unix machine.  In fact this whole thread is 
simply more evidence that you'll do better to run a database server on Unix.  I have 
the lucky job of being the DBA for a couple of UniVerse systems running under HP-UX 
and a half dozen Micro$oft SQL servers running on Windows 2000.  I spend far more time 
dinking with the Microsoft stuff for non database related fixes (patches, share 
security, PDC problems, etc).

That said, Micro$oft SQL server is a great database system, it's only drawback is that 
it must run on Windows.  Well, theres also the fact you have to tell it abouit all 
those data types and lengths...


Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett  Dunner LLP


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We use sophos. www.sophos.com 

Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.

Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is
MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner
wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and
tell them they MUST install it.

Cheers,
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Re: SV: ANTIVIRUS

2004-03-25 Thread Donald Kibbey
Yes, I've always wondered if theres not some jointly funded entity out there that does 
nothing but release viri into the wild.  I used to work for Zenith (many lifetimes 
ago) and the sales department there used Macs.  The Macs were always getting hit with 
viri of some sort and the standard fix at the time was to wipe the disk and reload the 
software.  On a Mac with a 20meg hard drive, this did not take too long.

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.although that might 
be because the AV vendor has allocated their best employees to that 
department.  ;-)




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RE: UNCLASSIFIED RE: Unidata Flashbasic

2004-03-25 Thread Dennis Bartlett
Just a reminder that to ask IBM for something, simply send
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Please ask..!!!

-Original Message-
 Pity that's a UniData-only feature.
 [snip]
 Maybe if enough UniVerse users request it, it will be
added.
 [snip]

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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Peter Olson
LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will be unable 
to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing that if 
null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and requiring another 
pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding this sort 
of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

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LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Peter Olson
i did a cut and paste with the code. by the way, it's still running! so
i think in some cases the trim would be a little quicker :)
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After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will
be unable to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing
that if null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and
requiring another pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding
this sort of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 25 March 2004 12:41
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Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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Behalf Of Jonathan Leckie
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: Optimization ?

2004-03-25 Thread Peter Olson
ok... now what's quicker / preferred...

   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'
   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )   
   REC = PETE   
   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )   
   FOR LOP = MAX TO 1 STEP -1   
  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN   
 REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP)  
  END   
   NEXT LOP 
 300:   
   CRT REC  


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Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:47 AM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?


After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will
be unable to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing
that if null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and
requiring another pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding
this sort of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Behalf Of Peter Olson
Sent: 25 March 2004 12:41
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jonathan Leckie
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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COMO

2004-03-25 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Hi,

All of a sudden we experience that COMO ON does strange things. It adds 
binary records before and after your actual como data.
Even if you just say:
COMO ON ABC
COMO OFF
ED COMO ABC
you get a record full of binary junk.

Nothing changed that we are aware of.

AIX 5.1 UV 10.0.7

I recompiled COMO_VERB, but I suspect it might be DIVERT.OUT which would 
call for a fresh install to replace (or?)

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RE: Optimization ?

2004-03-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
This is the preferred version. It's also a bit slower.

The point is, you can GUARANTEE that LOP will decrement on every pass, and the loop 
will terminate.

With the other version, you need all sorts of extra code and crap to make sure you 
don't do what your original version is doing - ie counting from 1 to 8, and getting 
stuck on 4.

If you kill the currently running infinite loop, then rerun it with a PRINT statement 
after the FOR, you will see that it successfully trims your string to 'THIS}IS}A 
TEST', but LOP is now 4, value 4 is the empty string, so LOP is decremented every 
pass, is stuck at 4, and will never reach the 8 needed to terminate the loop ...

The decrement is less efficient at string handling. It is also far easier to code 
without screwing up - there's only one way to do it (tm), while the increment method 
has many ways of getting it wrong, and only one (complicated) way of getting it right. 
After you THINK you've got it right, try feeding it the string '}' :-)

Cheers,
Wol 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Olson
Sent: 25 March 2004 12:57
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Optimization ?

ok... now what's quicker / preferred...

   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'
   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )   
   REC = PETE   
   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )   
   FOR LOP = MAX TO 1 STEP -1   
  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN   
 REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP)  
  END   
   NEXT LOP 
 300:   
   CRT REC  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:47 AM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?


After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will
be unable to get beyond 4.

Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing
that if null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and
requiring another pass, which will do the same, which will do the same ...

That's why I ALWAYS do a FOR I = MAX TO 1 STEP -1 style loop when coding
this sort of stuff ...

Bit slower, but far harder to mess up ...

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter Olson
Sent: 25 March 2004 12:41
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?

LOL...

I can't get this to get out of the loop!!!

the trim crt'ed pretty quick... neat!

: L23   
0001:   PETE = 'THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}'   
0002:   CRT TRIM( PETE , @VM )  
0003:   REC = PETE  
0004:   MAX = DCOUNT( REC 1  , @VM )  
0005:   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
0006:  IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN  
0007: REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)   
0008: IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300  
0009: LOP=LOP-1 
0010:  END  
0011:   NEXT LOP
0012: 300:  
0013:   CRT REC 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jonathan Leckie
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Optimisation ?


I have the following piece of code :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
  FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
  REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
  IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
  LOP=LOP-1
END
  NEXT LOP
END

I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

IF REC1 £ '' THEN
  REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
  GO 300
END

Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing, repeated and
initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2 incidentally.



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RE: UniData Telnet ID's

2004-03-25 Thread alfkec
Nope, never seen anything like this. I don't know offhand if there are any
restrictions (besides uniqueness) that are required of the user id. 

Can you logon to the console using that ID/password - taking UD out of the
equation.
Are there any special characters in your standards?

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Dear Group,
 
I am on a random basis, getting an unusual problem with user's 
UniData Telnet login ID's.  Just yesterday, I had a user who 
was unable to login into our system.   He did not change is 
password, nor was his login ID disabled or deleted.
 
When I try to reset his password, the same problem.  I 
disabled is old login ID and created a new one for him, but 
the same results.
Then I deleted is old login ID and create a new login ID, 
using the same login ID as the old one.  Again, same results.
 
Finally, I created a tempxxx, where xxx = the users name, and 
this worked.  But, when I tried to copy the temp login ID to 
create an ID according to our standards, the copied ID did not work.
 
My questions are the following:
 
*  Has anyone else experienced something like this?
*  What could cause this?
*  Finally, how to fix this.
 
We are using UniData 5.1, which is running on a Windows NT 4.0 
platform.  Just to let you know, even though my job title is 
systems administrator, I am more of a database analyst/programmer.
 
Any suggestions, advice, thoughts or comment will be greatly welcomed.
 
Sincerely,
 
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RedBack Examples

2004-03-25 Thread Baruch Salamander
The sample code that comes with the application, is minimal. Are there any
other sources for obtaining advanced sample code on RedBack? The type of
code should involve redirecting pages and handle advances queries with
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RedBack Examples

2004-03-25 Thread Baruch Salamander
The sample code that comes with the application, is minimal. Are there any
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code should involve redirecting pages and handle advanced queries with
multi-value attributes. Please let me know what other options are
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Re: [UD] RFS and SAN storage

2004-03-25 Thread Timothy Snyder





[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Miller) wrote on 03/24/2004 11:45:32 AM:

 With the MC Service guard they can TOC a system (Transfer of control) at
a
 drop of a hat and be back up and running on the 2nd machine very
 quickly.  The 2nd machine grabs the ip address of the primary and people
 just have to log in again and pick back up where they were.

I agree with Doug - this can be a very slick implementation if done
correctly.  I've worked with RFS installations on HP-UX with
MC/ServiceGuard, and on AIX with HACMP.  The clustering software nicely
handles the fail-over, with the assumption that UniData is running with RFS
to handle the cleanup.  However, it's critical to ensure that UniData is
set up correctly in the shared environment.  There are components that need
to be available on the shared disk, and other components that need to be
unique to each system.  If all of the pieces aren't in the right places,
the TOC could result in a failure when starting UniData, or an invalid RFS
recovery.  Tread softly and test thoroughly when implementing this sort of
solution.  Also make sure the clustered environment is set up by somebody
that understands it inside and out.  This can be very complex to implement.

Back to the original question, there's no fundamental problem with running
RFS over a SAN.  If at all humanly possible, you'll want to isolate the
before-image, after-image, file-level, and archive logs from the database
files.  This is important for performance, since you don't want heads and
controllers busy updating the database and log files at the same time.
Also, if there is an unrecoverable media failure (not too likely these
days, but it does happen!), you don't want it to take out the database
files the archive logs at the same time.  Otherwise you'll have to resort
to your backups with no way to recover to the point of the failure.

Tim Snyder
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Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...

2004-03-25 Thread George Gallen
http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?Edp
No=168286sku=N52-1043 
I was thinking about buying one...networking it to my laptop. For  500.00
already assembled can't go
too much wrong.

George


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Re: Uniobjects

2004-03-25 Thread Results
Steve,
   Look at NRG (Nucleus  Accuterm). The screens are fast, the security 
is all server based (even at the field level), and the tool allows you 
to use the same code base to service green screens during the 
transition. Nucleus also lets you develop for the web and use those web 
pages as green screens as well. http://www.binarystar.com

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Steve Mayo wrote:

Hi Everyone,

We are in the process of analyzing different approaches to porting our
software to a GUI environment. We are currently looking at Uniobjects for
Java, System Builder, jBase with ObjEx, OpenInsight and Obsydian (which I
have yet to get information on). If you have any other ideas or have gone
through this process, I would like to know a few things:
1) How is the response time with multiple windows up at the same time?

2) How did you deal with security? We need field level security.

3) The approach you used to convert the screens, etc.

We are using Unidata on AIX, have 40+ users and have in excess of 200
screens. 

Any help would be appreciated.

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UV, printer error GetJob 123

2004-03-25 Thread Richard A. Wilson
A client has recently installed uv 10.? on an xp-pro workstation and is 
receiving the following error when LIST  LPTR

The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
GetJob failed with error 123.
I've never seen their setup but it I believe they are using Novell for 
networking/print sharing

I had them duplicate the default printer with UVDEFAULT as the printer 
name and the error continues

thanks, Rich
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[OT] Access Denied Continued

2004-03-25 Thread Ray Buchner
Earlier this week I posted a message about getting an access denied message
when printing to a shared printer in a Universe application.  This is more
of a networking issue, but I thought I'd pick y'all's brains.

I'm running UV10 on an NT4 server.

The printer is a Zebra bar code printer connected via LPT1 on a WindowsXP
Pro machine.

The printer/machine in question is networked to the corporate domain via
3Com wireless bridge.

We are running Domain level authentication.

When a user first logs in to the machine with the printer attached and runs
the UV application the print job works beautifully.

Following a period of inactivity, the app starts returning the access denied
message.

It's almost as if the machine loses it authentication on the domain or the
UV server loses the connection to the user machine.

There's no hibernation or sleep settings set on the client or the server.

I can also connect to the share machine and printer via the network but
still get the access denied message.

Anyone have any clues as to why access is being stripped after inactivity?

TIA,
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Re: Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...

2004-03-25 Thread Karl L Pearson
Then how about this one:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=106562path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A106562

400 for a pc with Lycoris (linux) installed. It's a very nice little OS.
I've burned a CD and installed it a couple times.

Karl

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:48, George Gallen wrote:
 http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?Edp
 No=168286sku=N52-1043 
 I was thinking about buying one...networking it to my laptop. For  500.00
 already assembled can't go
 too much wrong.
 
 George
 
 
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RE: Uniobjects

2004-03-25 Thread Graham, David
No so at all - the majority of the WinFAST installations that are out there (not 
STORIS mind you but the other, non-MV ones) are primarily done in AutoGui mode.  
This is a mechanism that we chose not to use because we opted for the whole hog 
approach.  I recommend that anyone looking for a relatively simple, inexpensive and 
quick to market solution to the perennial it looks like DOS complaint. Look at 
WinFAST - it's versatile (you can get a GUI in a short period of time, thus preserving 
market share) and then, if you choose to, go to the event driven model.

As you know Debster, we made a reasoned business decision not to go with the AutoGui 
mechanism because we felt that A) we had enough time left in the character based 
application to do it right the first time and B) that the underlying business rules 
needed to be broken out of the input routines anyway.  Based on those two facts, the 
decision to re-write was made with full knowledge of the time and expense needed.

Prior to making that decision however, several proof of concept trials were made and 
the face of the product was very successfully changed to look as though it were 
developed in VB (or other graphically-oriented tool).

I stand by my statement having been intimately involved with the product from the 
beginning of our relationship with them.  Anyone who would like further information 
about this issue is free to contact me off-list for details.

Dave Graham
Storis Management Systems, Inc.
(954) 725-3655 Ext. 102
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:30 PM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Uniobjects 

Ahem -- 30 Days Dave?  Admittedly it's a nice product and very easy to use but 30 days 
is stretching it just a wee bit.  Not impossible but it would have to be a 
Chief/Cook/Bottlewasher operation, (you know how those confused powers that be that 
keep changing their minds (13 times on one screen alone comes to mind), along with 
end-users can slow things a tad) with a relatively simple system.

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 Steve,

 I recommend that you check out WinFAST (www.goWinFAST.com).  We have been using
 the product for 2+ years now and it's blindingly fast, as secure as your
 existing application and can be implemented in less than 30 days with minimal
 code changes (or you can go 'whole hog' and re-write your code into an event
 driven model).

 Dave Graham
 Storis Management Systems, Inc.
 (954) 725-3655 Ext. 102
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 From: Steve Mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:47 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Uniobjects

 Hi Everyone,

 We are in the process of analyzing different approaches to porting our
 software to a GUI environment. We are currently looking at Uniobjects for
 Java, System Builder, jBase with ObjEx, OpenInsight and Obsydian (which I
 have yet to get information on). If you have any other ideas or have gone
 through this process, I would like to know a few things:

 1) How is the response time with multiple windows up at the same time?

 2) How did you deal with security? We need field level security.

 3) The approach you used to convert the screens, etc.

 We are using Unidata on AIX, have 40+ users and have in excess of 200
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RE: Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...

2004-03-25 Thread George Gallen
But that ones not 5 x 6 x 2 !!! Granted it only has 10gb drive
but it's a standard drive that can be changed. The video output
supports VGA, composite and S-Video.

It should make a great compliment to my laptop. Also should fit
in the front pocket of the laptop bag. 

Might have to modify a laptop battery however, to power it portably
(oh well). 

Offhand, how much space (gb) does UVPE take on a RH system?

George

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From: Karl L Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...


Then how about this one:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=106562path=0%3A
3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A106562

400 for a pc with Lycoris (linux) installed. It's a very nice 
little OS.
I've burned a CD and installed it a couple times.

Karl

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:48, George Gallen wrote:
 
http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/item-De
tails.asp?Edp
 No=168286sku=N52-1043 
 I was thinking about buying one...networking it to my laptop. For  500.00
 already assembled can't go
 too much wrong.
 
 George
 
 
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 Accounting/Data Division
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Re: Uniobjects

2004-03-25 Thread Lee Bacall
Steve, (and others who may be curious about migrating to GUI)

As one with extensive experience in development of GUI and character based
applications with the Nucleus/NRG environment, I would like to offer a rapid
2 cents worth.
You wrote:
 We are in the process of analyzing different approaches to porting our
 software to a GUI environment. We are currently looking at Uniobjects for
 Java, System Builder, jBase with ObjEx, OpenInsight and Obsydian (which I
 have yet to get information on). If you have any other ideas or have gone
 through this process, I would like to know a few things:

 1) How is the response time with multiple windows up at the same time?
Response time to switch between windows is usually dependent on basic
factors:
a) Size of the object(s) (i.e. programs) that will be brought into focus.
b) Speed of the client machine, as fast desktops are cheap these days
(1,800 mhz AMD processor system for under $300.00), a client system with a
700 mhz or better processor with adequate memory ensures rapid transition
times between modules.
c) Large modules that load data from a host system can take a few seconds to
initially load especially when large amounts of data are to be displayed.
(Compare loading of a large Excel spreadsheet to a small one).
d) Multiple objects may exist on a active desktop, some in sleep mode, and
others in active mode where the active objects come to focus more quickly.
e) As the Nucleus environment is a smart-thin-client environment, the only
thing that is loaded from the host system is a template describing to the
client-manager what and where, along with the data to be displayed.

I can safely state that you can either work hard and write code to
incorporate objects, or let the Nucleus/NRG engine do the work for you with
a far faster deployment and greatly simplified maintenance.

 2) How did you deal with security? We need field level security.
Security in Nucleus/NRG can be controlled at the field level on a user by
user or group level. Security for any Menu, File, Command, Device etc., can
also be implemented on a user or group basis, much as exists in a unix
environment.  Security can be added at design time or tightened up later as
security requirements are codified (written) without incurring any design
stage issues. There will be no problem if you desire to implement security
as an afterthought, as it is inherent in the Nucleus engine managing the
object sets.

 3) The approach you used to convert the screens, etc.
Nucleus screen design is structured to layer on top of data definitions -
i.e. DATA DICTS. If your dictionaries are clean and easily read and
understood by humans - either A, S or I type, you can quickly prototype a
screen from the Nucleus shell prompt, as:
CUSTOMERFILE CUST.ID WINDOW(width,depth,column,row) @(col,row) COMPANY
ADDRESS etc.
and have a screen appear within seconds.  The design phase is rather
straightforward and familiar to anyone who has used BASIC, RETRIEVE/ENGLISH
and data dictionaries. Rules can be quickly added, existing subroutines can
be called as long as the COMMON blocks don't conflict.  Btree selections are
a no-brainer to implement along with intersected joins and automated
choicewindow selections.

Migrating from a hand-coded character based environment to a Rapid
Deployment environment adds many options to the design equation that were
impracticle with manual code.  Adding drill-downs, pop-up selections or
multiple pages to screens are incredibly simple to accomplish.
Collaborating with end-users is no-longer a frustrating process with
Nucleus.. You can often prototype the guts of an application in a few
minutes to demonstrate the look and feel and then add the bells and
whistles as the user-population and the programming group firm up the design
concepts.

There is an easy transition path to GUI in Nucleus without a steep learning
curve - a couple of days of instruction and you can be well on your way to
being very comfortable developing within the environment.

An integrated environment exists within Nucleus that doesn't require any
knowledge of objects or properties and allows you to do your development and
maintenance in ways that are intuitive to a pick programmer.  If you want
or need to integrate ActiveX objects, java script or C#, those controls can
be easily integrated.

Nucleus supports GUI, green-screen, character based color as well as WEB
support using the same rule-sets, greatly reducing support effort and
ensuring data consistency.

BTW, Nucleus supports most multi-dimensional environments and allows an
application created in say Universe or UniData (following simple rules), to
be ported without effort to another environment such as jBASE, D3,
UniVision, etc with only a re-compile.

There is a migration outline available on our website:
 http://www.binarystar.com/MigrationFromLegacyToNucleus.html

If you (or anyone else) would like to see how it works,
click here: http://www.binarystar.com/contact.html  

RE: Optimisation ?

2004-03-25 Thread Bill H.
Jonathan:

Despite the digression about your code, I think the TRIM() function should
work just fine.

On D3, however, no matter how many leading or trailing @VMs exist, a single
@VM remains at the beginning and/or end of the string.  This is true even
with Glenn's suggestion, TRIM(REC1, @VM, R).

This works fine on U2, but if you need to port to D3 you'd need to revert to
a modified version of the code you included below.

Hope this helps.

Bill

 -Original Message-
 Behalf Of Jonathan Leckie
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Optimisation ?


 I have the following piece of code :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   MAX=DCOUNT(REC1,VM)
   FOR LOP=1 TO MAX
 IF REC1,LOP = '' THEN
   REC=DELETE(REC,1,LOP,0)
   IF LOP = MAX THEN GO 300
   LOP=LOP-1
 END
   NEXT LOP
 END

 I wonder could this simply be replaced with :

 IF REC1 £ '' THEN
   REC1=TRIM(REC1,@VM)
   GO 300
 END

 Can anyone see any problems with using TRIM to remove trailing,
 repeated and
 initial value markers and therefore achieving the same effect without
 looping through each multi-value?  This is on Unidata 3.3.2
 incidentally.

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UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV on W2K3 - trying to add to path

2004-03-25 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
Sara,

[@PATH seems to have nothing to do with the DOS Path, by the way!]

You can change the DOS Path in the ENV of your Telnet session (see below),
but this doesn't seem to stick if you DOS out from your UniVerse session [
I end up with Path=C:\Program! - note abrupt truncation at first space,
path was Path=C:\Program Files\Support Tools\; ... before I DOS'ed !! :-
]
Oh dear, this seems like another manifestation of the problem of passing
spaces into the DOS environment.
Denver say this is fixed in 10.0.21 (which we haven't seen yet), so I guess
probably in 10.1.1 as well

Holding / setting / saving your DOS Path
*   You'd need a Basic Program, run in your LOGIN paragraph
*   The program would 
-   EXECUTE 'ENV' CAPTURING Env.Stuff, then 
-   parse out the Path=... line from Env.Stuff into, say,
Env.Path, then
-   Env.Path := ';c:\ibm\uv\bin', then
-   EXECUTE 'ENV SET PATH=':Env.Path: CAPTURING Env.Stuff
* This will change your DOS path
* I'd be inclined to save the Env.Path in COMMON somewhere so you can re-set
it later if you need to

Nasty

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Behalf Of Sara Burns
Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 17:59
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: UV on W2K3 - trying to add to path

We are starting our evaluation of running UniVerse on W2K3.  To get a feel
of what it will be like and to scope the learning we need to do we have set
up a totally isolated W2K3 server (PDC) and have installed the personal
version of UniVerse while we wait for an NT version from IBM.
 
I added to the System Environment variables an extension to the PATH =
c:\IBM\UV\BIN
 
Problem - we do not get this in our telnet session.  It is fine in a cmd
session from the server but is missing from the telnet session.  Can anyone
explain how we add this on an NT platform.  Universe was installed as
Administrator and we have even tried using Administrator as the user in the
telnet session but that did not show the extra path.  Our personal user
accounts are in the Admin group.
 
I can add this within my session as  PATH=%path%;c:\ibm\uv\bin and it works.
However this is lost next time.
 
I can see this is going to be an interesting learning curve for our DBAs
(Oracle and UniVerse) who have UNIX skills but little exposure to NT apart
from using a desktop. I will be on leave tomorrow (Friday) so I will see if
I can get the digest sent to me at home.
 
Thank you in anticipation
 
Sara Burns
 
Sara Burns (SEB)
Development Team Leader

Public Trust
Phone: +64 (04) 474-3841 (DDI) 

Mobile: 027 457 5974
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Re: Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Kate Stanton
You are probably right, Trevor, but we converted when we went to Universe
whenever that was, and all our reporting, etc is on PICK format.  Hard to
get changed format to the top of the list.

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From: Trevor Ockenden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Correlative


Kate

Use an I-type dictionary as follows:

0001: I
0002: F1:@TM:F10
0003:
0004: Whatever
0005: 30T
0006: S

If the contents of either F1 or F10 they will wrap appropriately.

I find I-types to be s much easier as a programmer.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
OSP

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From: Kate Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Correlative


 I have a file with field 1 containing description (30 chars), and field 10
 containing notes (30 characters, multi-value).

 For reports, I want to print a single column containing description with
 notes underneath.

 So if description is Name of item and notes line 1 is: First line of
 notes, line 2 is 2nd line of notes, I want a column of:

 Name of item
 1st line of notes
 2nd line of notes

 I have tried the following correlative:  F1;'
 ';1;30;[];10;:
 but it repeats the description before each line of notes:

 Name of item
 1st line of notes
 Name of item
 2nd line of notes

 If I just concatenate with F1;10;:  I am not surprised to get:

 Name of item1st line of notes
 2nd line of notes

 I can't for the life of me work out how to do it.  Can anyone help?
Please!

 TIA,  Kate


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 Walstan Systems Ltd
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 ph +64 9 360 5310  fax +64 9 376 0750
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RE: Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Jeff Schasny
A pick flavor account will still support I types

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From: Kate Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:31 PM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: Re: Correlative


You are probably right, Trevor, but we converted when we went to Universe
whenever that was, and all our reporting, etc is on PICK format.  Hard to
get changed format to the top of the list.

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From: Trevor Ockenden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Correlative


Kate

Use an I-type dictionary as follows:

0001: I
0002: F1:@TM:F10
0003:
0004: Whatever
0005: 30T
0006: S

If the contents of either F1 or F10 they will wrap appropriately.

I find I-types to be s much easier as a programmer.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
OSP

- Original Message - 
From: Kate Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Correlative


 I have a file with field 1 containing description (30 chars), and field 10
 containing notes (30 characters, multi-value).

 For reports, I want to print a single column containing description with
 notes underneath.

 So if description is Name of item and notes line 1 is: First line of
 notes, line 2 is 2nd line of notes, I want a column of:

 Name of item
 1st line of notes
 2nd line of notes

 I have tried the following correlative:  F1;'
 ';1;30;[];10;:
 but it repeats the description before each line of notes:

 Name of item
 1st line of notes
 Name of item
 2nd line of notes

 If I just concatenate with F1;10;:  I am not surprised to get:

 Name of item1st line of notes
 2nd line of notes

 I can't for the life of me work out how to do it.  Can anyone help?
Please!

 TIA,  Kate


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Re: @WL Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Kate Stanton
You are right, Neil, and that is what I had - I had mis-keyed my email
(different machines).

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: @WL Correlative


Kate,

The first thing is that in your F-correlative the ;1;20; before the [ ]
needs to be ;C1;C30; otherwise it is saying use attribute 1 and attribute 30
to extract from attribute 1.

The [ ] is an extract only and does not force the length of the preceding
text/attribute to be 30 characters long.

The solution by Results - F;1;(ML#30);2;: - is the correct method, it will
force attribute 1 to be 30 characters long and concatenate with attribute 2.
So attribute 1 multivalue 1 will concatenate with attribute 2 mv 1, att.1 mv
2 with att 2 mv 2 and so on.  The (ML#30) is ignored for blank values so att
1 mv 2 (and 3 etc) will be blank and not a row of 30 spaces.  As long as
attribute 1 is a single value you will end up with your desired result:

Name of item
1st line of notes
2nd line of notes

The other important thing for this dictionary item to work, is that the
length must be the same value as in the ML# command.

IHTH

Neil

Neil Charrington
C.A Software Systems
www.casoftware.co.uk
www.mv4gl.com


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Behalf Of Kate Stanton
Sent: 25 March 2004 02:54
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: @WL Correlative


I have a file with field 1 containing description (30 chars), and field 10
containing notes (30 characters, multi-value).

For reports, I want to print a single column containing description with
notes underneath.

So if description is Name of item and notes line 1 is: First line of
notes, line 2 is 2nd line of notes, I want a column of:

Name of item
1st line of notes
2nd line of notes

I have tried the following correlative:  F1;'
';1;30;[];10;:
but it repeats the description before each line of notes:

Name of item
1st line of notes
Name of item
2nd line of notes

If I just concatenate with F1;10;:  I am not surprised to get:

Name of item1st line of notes
2nd line of notes

I can't for the life of me work out how to do it.  Can anyone help?  Please!

TIA,  Kate


Kate Stanton
Walstan Systems Ltd
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Re: Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Kate Stanton
You beauty!  That does it.  Perfect.  Many, many thanks.

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Katie,

F1;(ML#30);10;:

The width of 30 will make the wrapping happen.


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Kate Stanton wrote:

I have a file with field 1 containing description (30 chars), and field 10
containing notes (30 characters, multi-value).

For reports, I want to print a single column containing description with
notes underneath.

So if description is Name of item and notes line 1 is: First line of
notes, line 2 is 2nd line of notes, I want a column of:

Name of item
1st line of notes
2nd line of notes

I have tried the following correlative:  F1;'
';1;30;[];10;:
but it repeats the description before each line of notes:

Name of item
1st line of notes
Name of item
2nd line of notes

If I just concatenate with F1;10;:  I am not surprised to get:

Name of item1st line of notes
2nd line of notes

I can't for the life of me work out how to do it.  Can anyone help?
Please!

TIA,  Kate


Kate Stanton
Walstan Systems Ltd
4 Kelmarna Ave, Herne Bay, Auckland, New Zealand
ph +64 9 360 5310  fax +64 9 376 0750
ah +64 9 378 9594
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Re: [OT] Access Denied Continued

2004-03-25 Thread Steven M Wagner
Dear Ray et al.

Could the network login time out?  So that the person may still be logged 
into UV, but have lost their login to the NT domain?

Steve

At 11:47 AM 3/25/04 -0500, you wrote:
Earlier this week I posted a message about getting an access denied message
when printing to a shared printer in a Universe application.  This is more
of a networking issue, but I thought I'd pick y'all's brains.
I'm running UV10 on an NT4 server.

The printer is a Zebra bar code printer connected via LPT1 on a WindowsXP
Pro machine.
The printer/machine in question is networked to the corporate domain via
3Com wireless bridge.
We are running Domain level authentication.

When a user first logs in to the machine with the printer attached and runs
the UV application the print job works beautifully.
Following a period of inactivity, the app starts returning the access denied
message.
It's almost as if the machine loses it authentication on the domain or the
UV server loses the connection to the user machine.
There's no hibernation or sleep settings set on the client or the server.

I can also connect to the share machine and printer via the network but
still get the access denied message.
Anyone have any clues as to why access is being stripped after inactivity?

TIA,
Ray
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RE: Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...

2004-03-25 Thread Karl L Pearson
My UV10pe install (UV only--no user accounts counted) on Redhat 8.0
takes ~275MB.

Karl

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 11:29, George Gallen wrote:
 But that ones not 5 x 6 x 2 !!! Granted it only has 10gb drive
 but it's a standard drive that can be changed. The video output
 supports VGA, composite and S-Video.
 
 It should make a great compliment to my laptop. Also should fit
 in the front pocket of the laptop bag. 
 
 Might have to modify a laptop battery however, to power it portably
 (oh well). 
 
 Offhand, how much space (gb) does UVPE take on a RH system?
 
 George
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Karl L Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:07 PM
 To: U2 Users Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Heres a cool computer to load UV PE on...
 
 
 Then how about this one:
 
 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=106562path=0%3A
 3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A106562
 
 400 for a pc with Lycoris (linux) installed. It's a very nice 
 little OS.
 I've burned a CD and installed it a couple times.
 
 Karl
 
 On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:48, George Gallen wrote:
  
 http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/searchtools/item-De
 tails.asp?Edp
  No=168286sku=N52-1043 
  I was thinking about buying one...networking it to my laptop. For  500.00
  already assembled can't go
  too much wrong.
  
  George
  
  
  George Gallen
  Senior Programmer/Analyst
  Accounting/Data Division
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ph:856.848.1000 Ext 220
  
  SLACK Incorporated - An innovative information, education and management
  company
  http://www.slackinc.com
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RE: ANTIVIRUS - Symantec (Norton) - various - good

2004-03-25 Thread John Jenkins
 Me too (Norton Symantec) - haven't used McAfee

Regards

JayJay

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Subject: Re: ANTIVIRUS

John,
I've been using Norton's successfully with UniVerse, UniData, UniVision,
Reality, Revelation, and jBASE. I have had speed problems with McAfee, but I
haven't kept McAfee up long enough to know if it would harm the database(s).

- Charles Multi-Multi-User Barouch

John Jenkins wrote:



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Re: Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Kate Stanton
But they would not print properly on our CHANGES.LDICT, etc, etc reports.

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From: Jeff Schasny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Correlative


A pick flavor account will still support I types

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RE: Optimization ?

2004-03-25 Thread anyMelissa Campton

   Could you please tell me where you got my email address from?

   Mel
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   Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:57:48 -0500
   
   
   Because we know if we wait long enough someone will do exactly
   that... :-)
   
   At 01:51 PM 03/25/2004, you wrote:
   Why even discuss this when it is so easy to look in the horse's
   mouth?
   Similar questions keep coming up. Do people not know how to test
   this
   stuff?
   
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Portland Oregon User Group is being reformed. First meeting in April.

2004-03-25 Thread Ralph Burton

Subject: Restarting ORPUG aka MVDBUG
 Universe, Unidata, Jbase,
MVbase, Pick, Revelation, D3 and ...

Hi All,

Cliff Rhoton is putting together a meeting 
to bring ORPUG/MVDBUG back to life.

If you are interested in participating please email
him.

A meeting is being scheduled for April 22, 2004
at 6pm at Gage Industries in Lake Oswego, Oregon USA.
Please forward this message to anyone you know who may
want to participate.

Best Wishes,
Ralph
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Contact: Clifford Rhoton IT Manager 
 Gage Industries Inc.
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 P. O. Box 1318
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 Voice:  (503) 639-2177 x181
 Cell:  (503) 804-5543
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RE: SB+ Information

2004-03-25 Thread Jan Shaw and Keith Johnson
Hi,

I've just started some consulting work at a site that has partly moved to
SB+.  I worked with System Builder some years ago and I was looking for
information about SB+.  I've got the documentation and Kevin King's book,
and I've had a look at Malcolm Bull's site, but the on-line group
(ISBUG.net) seems to be defunct.  Is there a user group still active on-line
or any other information?  I'm looking for the sort of information that
gives pointers and background, rather than straight documentation.

For example, how does one stick a bunch of changes together and then migrate
them from a test environment to a live one?  It's a small site, so they
can't afford a full-scale package like Susan's.  I would like to set
something up for them.


Thanks,  Keith Johnson 'tm'ing the post name space

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Re: SB+ Information

2004-03-25 Thread Susan Lynch
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From: Jan Shaw and Keith Johnson Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: SB+ Information


 ...I've had a look at Malcolm Bull's site, but the on-line group
 (ISBUG.net) seems to be defunct.  Is there a user group still active
on-line
 or any other information?  I'm looking for the sort of information that
 gives pointers and background, rather than straight documentation.

 For example, how does one stick a bunch of changes together and then
migrate
 them from a test environment to a live one?  It's a small site, so they
 can't afford a full-scale package like Susan's.  I would like to set
 something up for them.


 Thanks,  Keith Johnson 'tm'ing the post name space

Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sbsolutions

Susan Lynch


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RE: UV on W2K3 - trying to add to path

2004-03-25 Thread Ken Wallis
Sara Burns wrote:

 I have checked this at home where I have a Universe (9.5.1)
 version on NT4.
 I do not see the same behaviour.  The path that I have
 created for System is
 also shown in my DOS shell from UniVerse.  Is this a change
 with W2K3?  I am
 only trying to add the path to the UniVerse bin directory.
 virus or interference.

All I can suggest Sara is that in the environment settings for the user you
are logging in as to use UniVerse, the PATH variable is being explicitly set
to a specific value which doesn't include the current value %PATH%.

If you set a SYSTEM environment variable then I'd expect all other users
will inherit it unless they explicitly overwrite it.  Normally, I don't set
PATH for other users, I just let them just inherit the SYSTEM setting, or in
their login script I make sure that any setting for PATH begins with
%PATH%; so it can use whatever is there already.

HTH,

Ken


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RE: Optimization ?

2004-03-25 Thread Ken Wallis
Glenn wrote:

 I would think the TRIM would be the easiest and fastest way:

 PETE=THIS}IS }}}A TEST}}}
 CRT TRIM (PETE, @VM, R)

 which would remove all redundant @VM marks.  Someone
 suggested this earlier but I saw no comment to it.

I don't have a system to test this on, but what if the record were had
leading @VMs?  As far as I can tell from Jonathan's post, he doesn't care
about the position of the blank values, he just wants them removed.  Doesn't
the R mean only trim from the right?.

KEN=}}}THIS}IS }}}ALSO}A TEST}}}
IF TRIM(KEN, @VM, R) = TRIM(KEN, @VM) THEN
CRT Ken is worrying about nothing
END ELSE
CRT Ken has a valid point
END

Cheers,

Ken


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RE: Optimization ?

2004-03-25 Thread Stewart Leicester
I don't have a system to test this on, but what if the record were had
leading @VMs?  As far as I can tell from Jonathan's post, he doesn't care
about the position of the blank values, he just wants them removed.  Doesn't
the R mean only trim from the right?.
Ken
L = 'Leading'
T = 'Trailing'
B = 'Both' leading and trailing
R = 'Redundant' i.e. leading, trailing and any internal sequence of 2 
or more is reduced to 1

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Re: Correlative

2004-03-25 Thread Trevor Ockenden
Kate

As an aside to this thread...

Changing flavour isn't too difficult. Put the appropriate $OPTIONS PICK
statement in all existing programs then change flavour. It is true there are
differences with report outputs but they are not great and in many cases
they are for the better.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
OSP

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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Correlative


 But they would not print properly on our CHANGES.LDICT, etc, etc reports.

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 A pick flavor account will still support I types

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Writing a RPC Service

2004-03-25 Thread Michael McRae
A customer has asked how he could implement some stringent security on the
'unirpc' services.  In particular, he wants to only allow certain 'Requests'
(like the 'Subroutine' method, etc.) from any users out there writing
UniVerse Objects front-ends.
 
To me, this means he wants unirpc to fire off uvserver when requested by
UniObjects, but to have uvserver only forward on his allowed Methods (and no
other).  This would keep developers from writing code that could .Read,
.Write, .Delete, etc, and force them to obey his security standards.
 
1) The first option I can think is to 'intercept' the uvserver executable.
Has anyone any experience with writing their own Services for unirpc?
 
2) Next, how about distributing a cut-down version of the DLL (or is it
OCX?) that his users will bind into their app?
 
Hoping there's a chance...
 
Michael McRae
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How to sort a file by multivalue field?

2004-03-25 Thread Marco Manyevere
How can I SELECT  a file by a multivalue field and return a list of 
@ID:*:FIELD.VALUE in sorted order of FIELD.VALUE?
 
E.g:
 
record A = 800:@VM:600:@VM:700
record B = 400:@VM:900:@VM:1000:@VM:300
record C = 650:@VM:200
 
I want the output as follows:
 
C*200
B*300
B*400
A*600
C*650
A*700
A*800
B*900
B*1000
 
Thanks for any help.
Marco


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