RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-02 Thread Bill H.
Robert:

Thanks for the link.  I've been tired of Adobe's slowness for years.

> If you use the above don't forget to install Acrobat reader speedup from:
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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-02 Thread Anthony Youngman
Acrobat 6, certainly initially, had, well, "issues".

Something to do with compatibility, and not liking files created by
earlier versions.

Cheers,
Wol 

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> -Original Message-
> Behalf Of Robert Stearns
>
> found) unified search facility. The online manuals are great for those
> times you want an indepth discussion of a topic, or to first learn a
> subject, but are abysmal (IMNSHO) as a quick reference for a syntax
> question or a summary. While it has not been updated in a few
versions,

Get Adobe Reader 6. It is FREE. It has a very _good_ search facility
(Ctrl-F). As long as you have installed the manuals with the indexes you
can
search across all the manuals with a variety of options.

> the data is sufficient in day to day  programming. BTW the current PDF
> is set up for larger pages (8.5"x11" IIRC) so that ehe Kinko solution
is
> not a particlaraly good one, especially since the PDF contains page
> images (not text) for some down level version (9.? I believe). That is
> not particularly conducive to reformatting.

Poppycock

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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Stuart Boydell
> Did you try selecting the 'search5' plugin in the speed up utility menu, 
> maybe uv docs use that.
> 
>   - Robert
> 


yes but it still mangles something.

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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Robert Colquhoun
At 11:28 AM 2/04/2004, Stuart Boydell wrote:
oops - hit send too soon...

... except that on first inspection the Speed Up stops the (UV docs) indexes
from working. This may be an index version thing but I normally just move
the following plugins out of the plugins directory and Reader goes much
faster...
Did you try selecting the 'search5' plugin in the speed up utility menu, 
maybe uv docs use that.

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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Stuart Boydell
oops - hit send too soon...

... except that on first inspection the Speed Up stops the (UV docs) indexes
from working. This may be an index version thing but I normally just move
the following plugins out of the plugins directory and Reader goes much
faster...

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\plug_ins

Accessibility.api
AcroForm.api
AcroSign.prc
DigSig.api
eBook.api
MakeAccessible.api
PPKLite.api
printme.api
SaveAsRTF.api
SendMail.api
Soap.api
Updater.api
weblink.api
XFA.api

They can either be moved back into the plug-ins directory or just re-install
Reader to restore them.
Stuart


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> cOOL. Saves having to manually delete nasty unwanted plugins from the
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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Stuart Boydell
... except that on first inspection it stops the indexes from working.

I normally just move the following plugins out of the plugins directory and
Reader goes much faster...
Accessibility.api
AcroForm.api
AcroSign.prc
DigSig.api
eBook.api
MakeAccessible.api


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> cOOL. Saves having to manually delete nasty unwanted plugins from the
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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Stuart Boydell
cOOL. Saves having to manually delete nasty unwanted plugins from the
plugins folder ;-)

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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Robert Colquhoun
Hello,
At 09:24 AM 2/04/2004, Stuart Boydell wrote:
Get Adobe Reader 6. It is FREE. It has a very _good_ search facility
(Ctrl-F). As long as you have installed the manuals with the indexes you can
search across all the manuals with a variety of options.
If you use the above don't forget to install Acrobat reader speedup from:
http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/index.php
Quoting from the NTK review:

 More cheap hacks to counter-impress smug MacOS X owners.
 Yes, Panther's "Preview" app is a super-fast PDF viewer that's
 a lot snappier than Adobe "OMFG! A vector! How do I draw
 that??!!" Acrobat. Close the gap of shame (and stop yourself
 eating your own fist off waiting for Acrobat to start up) by
 running ADOBE READER SPEED-UP, a eensy-weensy Windows
 program that deletes a bunch of Adobe plugins that you don't
 care about. Voila: spend your spare time reading your doc
 rather than watching Adobe go "Loading dumb-ass marketing
 rubbish/lousy DRM feature" for a thousand hours.
 - Robert 

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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Stuart Boydell
> -Original Message-
> Behalf Of Robert Stearns
>
> found) unified search facility. The online manuals are great for those
> times you want an indepth discussion of a topic, or to first learn a
> subject, but are abysmal (IMNSHO) as a quick reference for a syntax
> question or a summary. While it has not been updated in a few versions,

Get Adobe Reader 6. It is FREE. It has a very _good_ search facility
(Ctrl-F). As long as you have installed the manuals with the indexes you can
search across all the manuals with a variety of options.

> the data is sufficient in day to day  programming. BTW the current PDF
> is set up for larger pages (8.5"x11" IIRC) so that ehe Kinko solution is
> not a particlaraly good one, especially since the PDF contains page
> images (not text) for some down level version (9.? I believe). That is
> not particularly conducive to reformatting.

Poppycock

Regards,
Stuart Boydell



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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Steven M Wagner
Mark that you've been doing this too long, you can remember the 
_loose-leaf_ 'Pick Pocket Guide'.

Still have one of the thick spiral bound ones with the 'Search for Truth' 
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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Gordon Glorfield
I use a copy of the VMark UniVerse Quick Reference.  It is a small (8" x
4.75") wire bound notebook.  It is a little dated now.  It was published as
the 7th edition for release 9.4.1 and is dated July 1997.  The VMark part
number is 70-9009-941.

Is this Quick Reference no longer available from IBM?

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Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
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Re: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Dianne Ackerman
I still use my good old Reality Pocket Guide by JES & Assoc published in 
the 1980's  as an ASCII reference and to decipher old PROC when I need 
to.  It's only 4" X 6".  A new Universe one would be wonderful and I 
would certainly buy one!!
-Dianne

Donald Kibbey wrote:

They are probably referring to the old MARK quick reference guide (part no. 70-8009-833) which does not seem to exist as a PDF.  Being in a law firm, I have access to dead tree processing equipment that is cable of turning the PDF into a nicely bound manual.  But, it would be nice, and I would certainly purchase the old style quick reference guide and basic manual that used to come in the smaller format, which is easier to find space for on my desk.  I have one of the old basic manuals in this format, but it is from version 7 of UniVerse and now does not have some of the things that are needed these days.







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Re: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Donald Kibbey
They are probably referring to the old MARK quick reference guide (part no. 
70-8009-833) which does not seem to exist as a PDF.  Being in a law firm, I have 
access to dead tree processing equipment that is cable of turning the PDF into a 
nicely bound manual.  But, it would be nice, and I would certainly purchase the old 
style quick reference guide and basic manual that used to come in the smaller format, 
which is easier to find space for on my desk.  I have one of the old basic manuals in 
this format, but it is from version 7 of UniVerse and now does not have some of the 
things that are needed these days.







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Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner LLP


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Re: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-04-01 Thread Robert Stearns
Which manual are you referring to (ignoring the heavy sarcasm implying I 
am a Luddite:-)? I would use an online version of a book with comparable 
(succinct) coverage! I don't want a shelf of dead trees but the quick 
reference has the following TOC:

TCL Commands
TCL Keywords
Sentence Stack Commands
RETRIEVE commands
RETRIEVE keywords
SQL Statements
Responses to REVISE Prompts
Editor Commands
PROVERB Commands
uniVerse Spooler Commands
BASIC Statements, Functions and Operators
RAID Commands
Conversion Codes
@ Variables
BASIC Subroutines
File Types
User Exits
ASCII Equivalents
all in an easy to use, small (7"x5"x.75") form . It is much easier to 
use than the online set of manuals which have no easy (that I have 
found) unified search facility. The online manuals are great for those 
times you want an indepth discussion of a topic, or to first learn a 
subject, but are abysmal (IMNSHO) as a quick reference for a syntax 
question or a summary. While it has not been updated in a few versions, 
the data is sufficient in day to day  programming. BTW the current PDF 
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not a particlaraly good one, especially since the PDF contains page 
images (not text) for some down level version (9.? I believe). That is 
not particularly conducive to reformatting.

Stuart Boydell wrote:

... If anyone knows of  a comparable book (its wire bound,
remember, so you can lay it down to use a keyboard/mouse) for version
10, PLEASE let me know.
   

To maintain the feel of the original you could take the pdf to your local
monastery and have the monks make a fair copy on palimpsest with
illuminations and gilt highlighting. But that may take awhile.
Alternatively; you could go to Kinko's (tm) and print it on their rainbow
coloured endangered trees of the rainforest series paper then have it bound
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RE: PDF Manual [Data typing in MV Basic]

2004-03-31 Thread Stuart Boydell
> ... If anyone knows of  a comparable book (its wire bound,
> remember, so you can lay it down to use a keyboard/mouse) for version
> 10, PLEASE let me know.

To maintain the feel of the original you could take the pdf to your local
monastery and have the monks make a fair copy on palimpsest with
illuminations and gilt highlighting. But that may take awhile.
Alternatively; you could go to Kinko's (tm) and print it on their rainbow
coloured endangered trees of the rainforest series paper then have it bound
there.













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