Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
So we do a full circle back to my original point (BTW, if you go back and read my original post, there was no vendor names mentioned). What to do. Get the MIMO Channel and put up a cheap radio, and have the spectrum available to you down the road for a hardware upgrade or go for

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Right... if you're able to get them to do 1024qam, they'll come close to a SAF at 256QAM, but the AF11 is far from the most efficient radio out there (the only thing that I know of that's less efficient, excluding ancient stuff, is probably the B11), but what they are is the cheapest

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
That was a fast change of position ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "J Portman" > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread J Portman
The numbers don't feel "right". My SIAEs do 436mbps per channel each way on 56HMZ and 1024QAM (tested). So either the UBNT SISO number is piss poor for 1024QAM (687.9/2 = 343.95mbps) or they are stating numbers for an 80MHZ channel (661mbps for SIAE 80MHZ at 1024 QAM). It appears UBNT does not

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Mike Hammett
They haven't achieved much more than 500 megabits real throughput in one direction. They end up with a lot of bits on the floor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "J Portman"

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/16/17 5:00 PM, J Portman wrote: > 1024QAM with MIMO. They claim 1.3 gig each direction on 56MHZ channel. That's the marketing aggregate number, divide by two for capacity in each direction. ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Adair Winter
That's what he said On Apr 16, 2017 6:47 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > You lost me here.. ... > > My understanding on today FDD is that the High side should not affect > another High side, and similarly low side should not affect another low > side.. > > > > Faisal

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
You lost me here.. ... My understanding on today FDD is that the High side should not affect another High side, and similarly low side should not affect another low side.. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk:

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Mimosa's sync on the B platform (B5 or B11) works the same way, and it is described in detail here https://www.mimosa.co/technology/white-papers/tdma Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Happy Easter to you Gabe and everyone else as well. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "gerincon" > To: "Ubiquiti

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 2:29 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > not trying to be anal even in your statement there is a 'as long as' > > There is no such 'as long as' requirement with the B11 sync. So the back to back requirement that say setting up a PMP450 synce'd cluster has so that a subscriber can't

Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 12:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Can we do that today with FDD ? or the other party is going to get their > panties in tbe bunch because their radio can hear your radio ? Yes. Their radio CAN NOT hear your radio, even if they were pointed facing into each other. It's impossible.