Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett 
*sigh* 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Tim Densmore" <tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:25:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon! 

I haven't been able to. I have another account that gets wispa list mail, and 
even after logging in to tell it to stop sending mail (since the mailman 
usnsubs and email header options are totally ignored) I still get tons of daily 
mail to that account. IIRC it refuses to let you unsub from a couple lists, but 
it has probably been a year since I messed with it. I had to blacklist wispa at 
my spam filter to keep from getting wisa mail - problem solved(ish). 



On 11/17/2016 6:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



I responded offlist, but: 

1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for mailing 
lists. 
2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of product. 
3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
choose. 




- 
Mike Hammett 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-18 Thread Tim Densmore 
I haven't been able to.  I have another account that gets wispa list
mail, and even after logging in to tell it to stop sending mail (since
the mailman usnsubs and email header options are totally ignored) I
still get tons of daily mail to that account.  IIRC it refuses to let
you unsub from a couple lists, but it has probably been a year since I
messed with it.  I had to blacklist wispa at my spam filter to keep from
getting wisa mail - problem solved(ish).


On 11/17/2016 6:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I responded offlist, but:
>
> 1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for
> mailing lists.
> 2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of
> product.
> 3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if
> you so choose.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett

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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
The trucks are full.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 17, 2016 4:27 PM, "Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users" <
ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

> The internets are attacking!
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Cliff deQuilettes <
> cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> *Sorry (717) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal email** .
>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .*
>> --
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:09:54 AM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>
>> Yes, October 24th area.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Tim Cailloux" <t...@southern-internet.com>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:08:12 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>
>> I'm not sure, but I think this is the same guy that sent out some emails
>> a month ago that didn't make any sense. WISPA looked into it at the time, I
>> think.
>>
>> tim
>>
>> --
>> Tim Cailloux
>> (404) 406-9911
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is this an auto responder?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes <
>> cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *Sorry (717) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal email** .
>>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .*
>>> --
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
>>> behalf of Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>
>>> And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I responded offlist, but:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for
>>>> mailing lists.
>>>> 2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of
>>>> product.
>>>> 3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you
>>>> so choose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://

Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Cliff deQuilettes 
Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Tim Cailloux <t...@southern-internet.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:08:12 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

I'm not sure, but I think this is the same guy that sent out some emails a 
month ago that didn't make any sense. WISPA looked into it at the time, I think.

tim

--
Tim Cailloux
(404) 406-9911

On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Is this an auto responder?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes 
<cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com<mailto:cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>> wrote:

Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
<ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I responded offlist, but:

1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for mailing 
lists.
2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of product.
3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
choose.



-
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

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From: "Cliff deQuilettes" 
<cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com<mailto:cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>>
To: "Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com<mailto:brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>>, 
"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!


Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't 
read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business people.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
<ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf 
of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yes, each hop halves the thro

Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Cliff deQuilettes 
Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:05:40 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Is this an auto responder?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes 
<cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com<mailto:cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>> wrote:

Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
<ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf 
of Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I responded offlist, but:

1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for mailing 
lists.
2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of product.
3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
choose.



-
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

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[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>

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From: "Cliff deQuilettes" 
<cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com<mailto:cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>>
To: "Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com<mailto:brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>>, 
"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!


Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't 
read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business people.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
<ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf 
of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yes, each hop halves the throughput:

Here's an example:

*   20MHz channels

*   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz

*   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  receiver


First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBy

Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Tim Cailloux 
I'm not sure, but I think this is the same guy that sent out some emails a 
month ago that didn't make any sense. WISPA looked into it at the time, I 
think. 

tim

-- 
Tim Cailloux
(404) 406-9911

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> 
> Is this an auto responder?
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes 
>> <cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> wrote:
>> Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
>> what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf 
>> of Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>  
>> And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I responded offlist, but:
>>> 
>>> 1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for 
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of 
>>> product.
>>> 3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
>>> choose.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Cliff deQuilettes" <cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>
>>> To: "Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>, "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>> 
>>> Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . 
>>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business 
>>> people.
>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf 
>>> of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
>>> To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>  
>>> Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
>>> maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs 
>>> on 5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop 
>>> fast. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing 
>>> priorities.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
>>> To: Don Spaulding
>>> Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes, each hop halves the throughput:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here's an example:
>>> 
>>> ·   20MHz channels
>>> ·   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz
>>> ·   UAP-AC-M
>>> Hardwired:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  
>>> receiver
>>>  
>>> 
>>> First hop:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  
>>> receiver
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Second hop:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  
>>> receiver
>>>

Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
I responded offlist, but: 

1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for mailing 
lists. 
2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of product. 
3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
choose. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 


- Original Message -

From: "Cliff deQuilettes" <cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> 
To: "Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>, "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
<ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon! 



Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't 
read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business people. 


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM 
To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon! 



Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation. In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast. 

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing 
priorities. 

Rory 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM 
To: Don Spaulding 
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon! 


Yes, each hop halves the throughput: 



Here's an example: 

· 20MHz channels 
· Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz 
· UAP-AC-M 
Hardwired: 
[ 5] 0.00-20.05 sec 272 MBytes 114 Mbits/sec sender 
[ 5] 0.00-20.05 sec 271 MBytes 113 Mbits/sec receiver 


First hop: 
[ 5] 0.00-20.22 sec 122 MBytes 50.7 Mbits/sec sender 
[ 5] 0.00-20.22 sec 122 MBytes 50.6 Mbits/sec receiver 


Second hop: 
[ 5] 0.00-20.24 sec 66.2 MBytes 27.4 Mbits/sec sender 
[ 5] 0.00-20.24 sec 66.2 MBytes 27.4 Mbits/sec receiver 



So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc. 



Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned. 



Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz. You can always 
disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, so: 



5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh. 

2.4GHz: station service. 



This will increase performance. 



Cheers, 

Brandon 



On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding < d...@bloono.com > wrote: 

Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs? 



I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
wireless hop halving the throughput of the system. 



I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to destroy 
the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 4-hop mesh. 





On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband < 
br...@whitewaterwideband.com > wrote: 



Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh goes? 
Do either of them mesh to either unit? 
Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M? 
Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the other 
3? 




On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote: 



For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
December. And smaller shipments towards the end of this month. 



You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at store.ubnt.com/beta (there 
are about 500 left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there. 



These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month. We release 
there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help those guys 
who always want the latest/greatest - get it first. 



Cheers, 

Brandon 



On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis < the...@wmwisp.net > wrote: 

When will they ship at those prices? 
I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would allow 
me to re bid at 25-35% less or so... 

Blair 
-- 




On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote: 





Hey Ubiquiti Users, 



Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi: 

* UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized 
* UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni 


We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor: 

#1: Wireless uplink. Supported. 
#2: Cost. $479 to $99 and $199 respectively. 
#3: Connectorized. UAP-AC-M. 



Check them out here: 

https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/ 



These have

Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Cliff deQuilettes 
Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't 
read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business people.


From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yes, each hop halves the throughput:

Here's an example:

·   20MHz channels

·   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz

·   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  receiver


First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  receiver


Second hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  receiver

So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.

Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.

Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can always 
disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, so:

5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
2.4GHz: station service.

This will increase performance.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding 
<d...@bloono.com<mailto:d...@bloono.com>> wrote:
Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?

I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.

I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to destroy 
the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 4-hop mesh.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
<br...@whitewaterwideband.com<mailto:br...@whitewaterwideband.com>> wrote:


Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh goes? 
Do either of them mesh to either unit?

Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?

Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the other 3?

On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.

You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta> (there are about 500 left) now 
and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.

These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We release 
there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help those guys 
who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis 
<the...@wmwisp.net<mailto:the...@wmwisp.net>> wrote:

When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would allow 
me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...



Blair

--

On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  *   UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  *   UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume in 
December.

And Beta users can actually buy them now at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta>

Cheers,
UBNT-Brandon


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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-17 Thread Cliff deQuilettes 
Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't 
read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business people.



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of 
Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31 PM
To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!


Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.



I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.



Rory



From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!



Yes, each hop halves the throughput:



Here's an example:

·   20MHz channels

·   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz

·   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  receiver



First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  receiver



Second hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  receiver



So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.



Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.



Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can always 
disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, so:



5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.

2.4GHz: station service.



This will increase performance.



Cheers,

Brandon



On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding 
<d...@bloono.com<mailto:d...@bloono.com>> wrote:

Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?



I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.



I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to destroy 
the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 4-hop mesh.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
<br...@whitewaterwideband.com<mailto:br...@whitewaterwideband.com>> wrote:


Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh goes? 
Do either of them mesh to either unit?

Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?

Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the other 3?



On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:

For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.



You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta> (there are about 500 left) now 
and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.



These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We release 
there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help those guys 
who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.



Cheers,

Brandon



On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis 
<the...@wmwisp.net<mailto:the...@wmwisp.net>> wrote:

When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would allow 
me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...



Blair

--



On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:

Hey Ubiquiti Users,



Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  *   UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  *   UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni

We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:

#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.



Check them out here:

https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/



These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume in 
December.



And Beta users can actually buy them now at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta>



Cheers,

UBNT-Brandon



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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-16 Thread Rory Conaway 
Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs on 
5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop fast.

I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing priorities.

Rory

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
To: Don Spaulding
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

Yes, each hop halves the throughput:

Here's an example:

·   20MHz channels

·   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz

·   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec  receiver


First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  receiver


Second hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  receiver

So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.

Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.

Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can always 
disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, so:

5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
2.4GHz: station service.

This will increase performance.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding 
<d...@bloono.com<mailto:d...@bloono.com>> wrote:
Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?

I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.

I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to destroy 
the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 4-hop mesh.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
<br...@whitewaterwideband.com<mailto:br...@whitewaterwideband.com>> wrote:


Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh goes? 
Do either of them mesh to either unit?

Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?

Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the other 3?

On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.

You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta> (there are about 500 left) now 
and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.

These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We release 
there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help those guys 
who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis 
<the...@wmwisp.net<mailto:the...@wmwisp.net>> wrote:

When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would allow 
me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...



Blair

--

On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  *   UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  *   UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume in 
December.

And Beta users can actually buy them now at 
store.ubnt.com/beta<http://store.ubnt.com/beta>

Cheers,
UBNT-Brandon


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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-16 Thread Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
Yes, each hop halves the throughput:

Here's an example:

   -

   20MHz channels
   -

   Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz
   -

   UAP-AC-M

Hardwired:

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec
 receiver

First hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec
 receiver

Second hop:

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec  sender

[  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec
 receiver

So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.

Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.

Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can
always disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only,
so:

5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
2.4GHz: station service.

This will increase performance.

Cheers,
Brandon

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding  wrote:

> Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?
>
> I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each
> wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.
>
> I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could
> easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to
> destroy the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a
> 4-hop mesh.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband <
> br...@whitewaterwideband.com> wrote:
>
> Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh
> goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?
>
> Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?
>
> Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the
> other 3?
>
> On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in
> December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.
>
> You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at store.ubnt.com/beta 
> (there
> are about 500 left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.
>
> These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We
> release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help
> those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.
>
> Cheers,
> Brandon
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
> When will they ship at those prices?
>
> I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would
> allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...
>
>
> Blair
>
> --
>
> On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>
> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>
>- UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>- UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>
> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>
> Check them out here:
> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>
> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
> volume in December.
>
> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>
> Cheers,
> UBNT-Brandon
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-16 Thread Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
Correct.  Can plug and play as you desire.  Can do all UAP-AC-M, or all
UAP-AC-M-PRO, or mix/match.

Can do single-hop uplink off of existing Gen2 devices (AC-LITE, AC-LR,
AC-PRO, AC-EDU, AC-IW) to AC-M and AC-M-PRO.

AC-M and AC-M-PRO are only ones that support multi-hop.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband <
br...@whitewaterwideband.com> wrote:

> Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh
> goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?
>
> Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?
>
> Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the
> other 3?
>
> On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in
> December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.
>
> You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at store.ubnt.com/beta 
> (there
> are about 500 left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.
>
> These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We
> release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help
> those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.
>
> Cheers,
> Brandon
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
>> When will they ship at those prices?
>>
>> I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would
>> allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...
>>
>>
>> Blair
>>
>> --
>>
>> On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>
>> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>>
>> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>>
>>- UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>>- UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>>
>> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
>> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
>> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
>> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>>
>> Check them out here:
>> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>>
>> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
>> volume in December.
>>
>> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>>
>> Cheers,
>> UBNT-Brandon
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-16 Thread Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as 
mesh goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?


Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?

Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the 
other 3?



On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these 
in December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.


You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at 
store.ubnt.com/beta  (there are about 500 
left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.


These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  
We release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also 
to help those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.


Cheers,
Brandon

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis > wrote:


When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices
would allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...


Blair

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On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:

Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  * UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  * UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent |
Integrated Omni

We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping
in volume in December.

And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta


Cheers,
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-15 Thread Blair Davis 

When will they ship at those prices?

I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would 
allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...



Blair

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On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:

Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  * UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  * UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni

We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in 
volume in December.


And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta 



Cheers,
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-15 Thread Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
No multi-lane.  However I'd be curious to see a bakeoff.  Multi-lane was
more useful when all the 2.4GHz channels weren't all destroyed (as it
filters off-channel noise, not on-channel).  ;-)

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> Do they have multi-lane RF like the outdoor+?
>
> On 11/15/2016 8:00 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> The backhaul is on 5GHz, yes.  We did that because in testing 2.4GHz
> backhaul had terrible performance in 99% of scenarios - just so much noise
> there.
>
> So you can also optionally serve stations on 5GHz as well, or only use it
> for backhaul.
>
> Cheers,
> Brandon
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:
>
>> I made a couple of units out of picom2/5 with a tik board to do mesh type
>> operation.
>>
>> On Tue, November 15, 2016 8:00 pm, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> > If it backhauls on 5ghz and Wifi is on 2.4ghz that is great! I have been
>> > waitint for something like this for a while in a building i cant run
>> > hardlines in.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> > Kurt Fankhauser
>> > Wavelinc Communications
>> > P.O. Box 126
>> > Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> > http://www.wavelinc.com
>> > tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
>> >
>> >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Does it mesh through either freq?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, November 15, 2016 3:56 pm, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>> >>> - UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
>> >>> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
>> >>> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
>> >>> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Check them out here:
>> >>> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
>> >>> volume in December.
>> >>>
>> >>> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-15 Thread Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
It allows multiple uplink. So in locations where you want more coverage
than bandwidth (and don't have hardlines), you can daisy-chain.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> What does the "mesh" do that current AC APs cant?
>
> On 11/15/2016 2:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>
> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>
>- UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>- UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>
> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>
> Check them out here:
> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>
> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
> volume in December.
>
> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>
> Cheers,
> UBNT-Brandon
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-15 Thread Keefe John 

What does the "mesh" do that current AC APs cant?


On 11/15/2016 2:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:

Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

  * UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
  * UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni

We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in 
volume in December.


And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta 



Cheers,
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[Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!

2016-11-15 Thread Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users 
Hey Ubiquiti Users,

Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:

   - UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
   - UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni

We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
#1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
#2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
#3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.

Check them out here:
https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/

These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume
in December.

And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta

Cheers,
UBNT-Brandon
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