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Josh Luthman
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On Nov 17, 2016 4:27 PM, "Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users" <
ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

> The internets are attacking!
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Cliff deQuilettes <
> cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> *Sorry (717) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal email** .
>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .*
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:09:54 AM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>
>> Yes, October 24th area.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Tim Cailloux" <t...@southern-internet.com>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:08:12 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>
>> I'm not sure, but I think this is the same guy that sent out some emails
>> a month ago that didn't make any sense. WISPA looked into it at the time, I
>> think.
>>
>> tim
>>
>> --
>> Tim Cailloux
>> (404) 406-9911
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is this an auto responder?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes <
>> cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *Sorry (717) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal email** .
>>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .*
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
>>> behalf of Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>
>>> And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I responded offlist, but:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for
>>>> mailing lists.
>>>> 2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of
>>>> product.
>>>> 3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you
>>>> so choose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Cliff deQuilettes" <cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>
>>>> *To: *"Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>, "Ubiquiti Users
>>>> Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>>
>>>> *Sorry Another (617) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal
>>>> email** . can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing
>>>> and business people.*
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
>>>> behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
>>>> *To:* Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can
>>>> maintain maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to
>>>> those APs on 5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds
>>>> will drop fast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing
>>>> priorities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
>>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
>>>> *To:* Don Spaulding
>>>> *Cc:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, each hop halves the throughput:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's an example:
>>>>
>>>> ·       20MHz channels
>>>>
>>>> ·       Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz
>>>>
>>>> ·       UAP-AC-M
>>>>
>>>> Hardwired:
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  sender
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  receiver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First hop:
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  sender
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  receiver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Second hop:
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  sender
>>>>
>>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec
>>>>                  receiver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for
>>>> service/etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can
>>>> always disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only,
>>>> so:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
>>>>
>>>> 2.4GHz: station service.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This will increase performance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding <d...@bloono.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by
>>>> each wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I
>>>> could easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to
>>>> destroy the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a
>>>> 4-hop mesh.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband <
>>>> br...@whitewaterwideband.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as
>>>> mesh goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?
>>>>
>>>> Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?
>>>>
>>>> Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the
>>>> other 3?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these
>>>> in December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at
>>>> store.ubnt.com/beta (there are about 500 left) now and the
>>>> UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We
>>>> release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help
>>>> those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When will they ship at those prices?
>>>>
>>>> I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would
>>>> allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blair
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>>>>
>>>>    - UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>>>>    - UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated
>>>>    Omni
>>>>
>>>> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
>>>>
>>>> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
>>>> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
>>>> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check them out here:
>>>>
>>>> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
>>>> volume in December.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> UBNT-Brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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