I'm not sure, but I think this is the same guy that sent out some emails a 
month ago that didn't make any sense. WISPA looked into it at the time, I 
think. 

tim

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> On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Is this an auto responder?
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Cliff deQuilettes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sorry (717) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . can't read 
>> what you sent ME :o( DELETING all 717 emails .
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf 
>> of Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:01:56 AM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>  
>> And there's really no reason to send 18 of the same email...
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I responded offlist, but:
>>> 
>>> 1) Don't use your regular e-mail addresses (personal or business) for 
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 2) These aren't advertisements, but (largely) technical discussions of 
>>> product.
>>> 3) You can login to your WISPA account and stop the list traffic if you so 
>>> choose.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Cliff deQuilettes" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Brandon Gilles" <[email protected]>, "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>> 
>>> Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . 
>>> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business 
>>> people.
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf 
>>> of Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
>>> To: Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>>  
>>> Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain 
>>> maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs 
>>> on 5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop 
>>> fast. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing 
>>> priorities.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
>>> To: Don Spaulding
>>> Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes, each hop halves the throughput:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here's an example:
>>> 
>>> ·       20MHz channels
>>> ·       Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz
>>> ·       UAP-AC-M
>>> Hardwired:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec                  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec                  
>>> receiver
>>>  
>>> 
>>> First hop:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec                  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec                  
>>> receiver
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Second hop:
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec                  sender
>>> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec                  
>>> receiver
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for service/etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can 
>>> always disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only, 
>>> so:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
>>> 
>>> 2.4GHz: station service.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This will increase performance.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brandon
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each 
>>> wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could 
>>> easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to 
>>> destroy the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a 
>>> 4-hop mesh.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh 
>>> goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?
>>> 
>>> Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?
>>> 
>>> Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the 
>>> other 3?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>> 
>>> For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in 
>>> December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at store.ubnt.com/beta 
>>> (there are about 500 left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We 
>>> release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help 
>>> those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brandon
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When will they ship at those prices?
>>> 
>>> I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would 
>>> allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Blair
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>>> 
>>> UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>>> UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>>> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
>>> 
>>> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
>>> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
>>> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Check them out here:
>>> 
>>> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in volume 
>>> in December.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> UBNT-Brandon
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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