Re: Alt+Super+S Not Working in ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso
Hi Al, I downloaded 23.04-desktop-amd64.iso from www.releases.ubuntu.com and installed successful with the help of Orca. After the startup sound alt+super+S started Orca. Orca+H tells 44.0. Milton Op 12-06-2023 om 16:10 schreef Al Puzzuoli: Hi all, I’m experimenting with the various flavors of Ubuntu to see which Desktop I prefer. I had no problems installing Ubuntu Mate; However as the subject says, I downloaded ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso yesterday and could not launch the screen reader. I get the startup sound after the system boots, but alt+super+s does nothing. Where’s the best place to report this issue, and does anyone know of any alternate working installers in the meantime? Thanks, --Al -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
at-spi2-core in Ubuntu 22.04
Hi, To obtain Orca master at-spi2core 2.48 is needed. The current version is 2.44. How can I get 2.48? Is it possible maintainers of Ubuntu 22.04 can provide in this? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how to set document viewer as default for pdf?
Hi, I use Ubuntu 22.04 with Orca master. Document viewer was was set default to open pdf-iles. All of a sudden this had dchanged to Image Magic Color which is not accessible with Orca. I tried the following without success: 1. right click on a pdf file and select Properties. 2. go to the tab OPEN WITH and select in the list Document viewer. 3. tab to the button default and press Enter. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
wifi problem after update to
Hi, After updating Ubuntu 22.04 some people I helped to use Ubuntu they left with wifi not working anymore. I noticed it happened when was updated to kernel 5.19.032 and also 5.19.035 on HP Elitebook, Lenovo ThinkPad and Sony vaio. People with Dell Latitude has no problems. I told them to start from kernel 5.15.x, when starting pressing Shift or Escape. Is it a known issue? Do we have to wait until another 5.19 kernel solves this problem? For users depending on speech to start from an earlier kernel is not accissible. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: (solved) in 22.04 not possible to launch a file through the Super key
Today I upgrade 20.04 to 22.04 on my Dell Latitude 6430 through Update manager. I am very happy and surprised to notice that I can launch any file by pressing Super key and type the name of that file and pressing Enter, just like in 20.04! Milton Op 05-05-2022 om 13:33 schreef milton: I did a fresh install of 22.04. Just like in 20.04 I tried to launch a document I made in LO Writer and also another made in gedit by pressing the Super key, typing the name of the document and press Enter. In 22.04 nohting happens, also no error message. Is this a known problem or just my laptop? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: (solved) cannot add user in Ubuntu 22.04 Wayland unlike Xorg
After a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04.1 on a Dell Alianware, I7, 8GB RAM, I could add a new user without problems. Milton Op 28-06-2022 om 13:53 schreef milton: Hi, I use a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04, gnome 42 with Orca master. In Wayland I could not add another user through Settings > Users, unlike in Xorg. Steps to reproduce: 1. press Super and type 'users' and press Enter 2. Tab twice and press Enter to unlock and type your password 3. navigate with flat review to Add user and left click on it. In Wayland Orca then stops speaking while in Xorg I can type the name of a new user and Tab to the Add button. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
is it necessary to enable accessibility in Ubuntu?
Hi, On the Orca mailing list I read a thread about enabling accessibiity. I am little confused. Can you tell if it is essential to set 'export ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1' or is it like 'if it does not work it won't hurt'? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: getting speakup to work in ubuntu
Hi, I only use Ubuntu gnome-shell desktop GUI with Orca master but out of curiosity I installed espeakup with sudo apt-get install espeakup. With Control+Alt+3 I launch a console and was surprised to have speech without doing any extra. I was asked to login and then to type my password. Espeakup read a welcome message. Milton Op 12-07-2022 om 23:58 schreef Monica Ayhens-Madon: Thank you for the advice, Jude! David, were you able to get this working using Jude's tips? Monica Ayhens-Madon Ubuntu Community Representative, Canonical On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: sysctl enable espeakup && sysctl start espeakup may help. On Sun, 10 Jul 2022, David wrote: > > > Hi there - new to ubuntu, but not with linux or speakup > > > > With sighted help, I was able to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS > > > > Question 1: is it possible to install with speech, without sighted help? > > > > After the machine booted up, I ran this and got no message [no news is good > news?] > > > > # modprobe speakup_soft > > > > So I installed 'espeakup' which brought in a bunch of other packages: > > > > # apt-get install espeakup > > > > And I get no speech,rebooted and that did not change anything > > > > Question 2: did I missed something? > > > > Any comments/help/direction/instruction appreciated, thank you very much in > advance > > > > --David > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
cannot add user in Ubuntu 22.04 Wayland unlike Xorg
Hi, I use a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04, gnome 42 with Orca master. In Wayland I could not add another user through Settings > Users, unlike in Xorg. Steps to reproduce: 1. press Super and type 'users' and press Enter 2. Tab twice and press Enter to unlock and type your password 3. navigate with flat review to Add user and left click on it. In Wayland Orca then stops speaking while in Xorg I can type the name of a new user and Tab to the Add button. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Alt+Super+S in Ubuntu 22.04 blocks the sound after restart
Hi, Today I had the opportunity to upgrade a Lenovo ThinkPad 531 and Orca master from Ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04. All went well. I have no issues, Alt+Super+S works as expected. So I think my problem is with Dell 5480 Touch. Milton Op 20-06-2022 om 13:18 schreef milton: Hi, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04 with Orca screen reader on a Dell 5480. The install was successful and I set in Startup-application the system-ready-sound. After updating I press Alt+Super+S to let Orca starts automatically. After restart I expect to hear the system-ready-sound and Orca. But there is no sound at all. I press again Alt=Super+S to deactivate Orca and restart the laptop. Now I hear the system-ready-sound again. I press Alt+F2 and type 'orca' to start Orca. I wonder if this has to do with Ubuntu or with the Dell 5480? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Alt+Super+S in Ubuntu 22.04 blocks the sound after restart
Hi, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04 with Orca screen reader on a Dell 5480. The install was successful and I set in Startup-application the system-ready-sound. After updating I press Alt+Super+S to let Orca starts automatically. After restart I expect to hear the system-ready-sound and Orca. But there is no sound at all. I press again Alt=Super+S to deactivate Orca and restart the laptop. Now I hear the system-ready-sound again. I press Alt+F2 and type 'orca' to start Orca. I wonder if this has to do with Ubuntu or with the Dell 5480? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
in 22.04 not possible to launch a file through the Super key
I did a fresh install of 22.04. Just like in 20.04 I tried to launch a document I made in LO Writer and also another made in gedit by pressing the Super key, typing the name of the document and press Enter. In 22.04 nohting happens, also no error message. Is this a known problem or just my laptop? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how to create a user account which reset after restart
Hi, Orca master in Ubuntu 20.04, I create a user account and made some settings for some one new with Ubuntu to try it out. After the person use the account and restart I would like the account be restored in the original state. 10 years ago I heard it had to do with /etc/skel/ I found that until Ubuntu 12.04 the command ofris-en did the job. Your help/advice is very appreciated. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Update to Ubuntu 21.10: Accessibility (fwd)
Hi, I am worried if 21.10 shows what we can expect in 22.04. I was happy to install 21.10 with the installer be accessible with Orca. I think snap is not accessible because in 20.04 Chromium-browser is accessible with Orca by snap. In 21.10 Favorites or Docks is partially accessible with the flat review of Orca. I could not left or right click with flat review, but Enter on an item with focus starts it. Control+Alt+Tab takes me to 'All applications' not Super+a anymore. Items in the Dock or Favorites do not appear in 'All applications. So it is not possible to adjust Favorites by right clik and remove from Favorites. I use Firefox after installing the .deb package with sudo apt install firefox Milton Op 15-10-2021 om 23:21 schreef Jude DaShiell: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:35:23 From: Halim Sahin To: orca-l...@gnome.org Subject: Re: [orca-list] Update to Ubuntu 21.10: Accessibility Hi Vladyslav, On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 08:13:02PM +0200, Vladyslav Kutsenko via orca-list wrote: my first impressions after update to Ubuntu 21.10: 1. Super+A and Super+S bring up a dialogue which is not accessible: the key navigation commands produce no speech. 2. Firefox which is a snap package now, is not accessible out of the box. Kind regards Hmm, I can confirm that at least on the live media firefox and chromium are inaccessible. My gues it's a snap problem here. MfG. Halim ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
will the installer keep accessible?
Hi, As of less than 2 months before the release of Ubuntu 21.10 the installer seems not accessible with Orca screen reader, I worried about my current job. Will the installer be accessible with Orca in the LTS-version 22.04 as in 20.04? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: monitor needed by ubuntu 20.04
Try to connect only a vga cable. Op 09-07-2021 om 19:10 schreef Daniel Crone: Using ubuntu 20.04, I find it needs a monitor. I know this because when starting once, forgetting to connect the monitor, ubuntu could not log in. Might one be able to run ubuntu 20.04 without any monitor? Using orca, so I would almost never need one. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: getting to the desktop
In Ubuntu GNOME you cannot access the desktop as before. See for a manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html.en Alt+A shows all installed applications Press the Super key and navigate with flat review in Favorites. Press the Super key and start typing to search for an application or file. Typing shutdown can also be uesed to shutdown the computer. Alt+Control+Tab to navigate to the top panel or to the current window. In the top panel navigate with Arrow keys, you will find System where to connect with wifi, battery and shutdown. Milton Op 09-07-2021 om 18:58 schreef Daniel Crone: I am now running ubuntu 20.04 regular edition, and using orca. With Ubuntu 20.04, how may I get to the desktop using orca? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Perhaps good news
It will be great! Thanks for sharing. Milton Op 10-02-2021 om 12:31 schreef Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, I've sent the link about Flutter to the Telegram Ubuntu czech and Slovak list. One great man from Slovakia wrote to Flutter developers and they tested it with Orca and it would be accessible. So I think, it perhaps will work good. Best regards Vojta. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: will installer in the future be accessible with speech?
Hopefully for the next LTS 22.04 the installer will be accessible with Orca I'll be happy to keep my job. Milton Op 07-02-2021 om 23:36 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:25:26AM AEDT, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 12:09:54AM AEDT, milton wrote: Hi, I heard about flutter and future installer of Ubuntu. Hopefully the installer then will be like now accessible with Orca? If not I have to start looking for another job. I highly doubt it. Whilst flutter uses GTk, I believe it only uses it for window functionality, and even t hen, flutter itself would need to properly support at-spi. Ok, seems that upstrea flutter devs are aware of the issue. https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/23601 So I somewhat take back what I said. Whether this is ready by 21.04 I have no idea. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
will installer in the future be accessible with speech?
Hi, I heard about flutter and future installer of Ubuntu. Hopefully the installer then will be like now accessible with Orca? If not I have to start looking for another job. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
some problems occur with kernel 5.8 in Ubuntu
Hi, After updating Ubuntu 20.04 I notice kernel 5.8.0.36 and causing some problems with on a HP laptop no wifi adapter found and virtualbox coming with errors. Do anybody met with such problems? On a Dell laptop I have no wifi problems only with virtualbox. To return to kernel 5.4.0.59 is no options because I then need sighted help. Any idea to solve those problems? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
after updating Ubuntu 20.04.1 sound is lost
Hi all, On a AVPlay laptop sound is lost after updating Ubuntu 20.04.1, I notice form kernel 5,4.059 to kernel 5.8.0.36. Before Orca and sounds work well. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks in advance. On another laptop Dell Latitude 5440 I met no problems with sound after updating. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu software center
Yes indeed, I also like to know how to get the handy categories back. Milton Op 08-06-2020 om 03:17 schreef Daniel Crone: When trying ubuntu 20.4 I noticed that the ubuntu software program where programs are downloaded were in handy categories. But later today it is now a preview page, with only a few listings. How may I put it back in to categories? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: using dd writing iso file to usb drive
Hi, Why not use usb-creator-gtk? After dowloading the .iso file and checking the md5sum I simply do the following: 1. insert the memory stick. 2. in a terminal type: usb-creator-gtk Note: you can press Tab after typing 'usb-c' 3. press Enter. 4. follow the steps on the screen. Success. Milton Op 09-05-2020 om 11:00 schreef Daniel Crone: When writing an image file to a usb drive, first I changed to the directory where the file was, and then I was typing the dd command in this form. sudo dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/sdf bs=4M conv=sync The file name was long, so after the first few letters, I used the tab key. But nothing happened. Should the name have been filled in? The name of the file was the only one in the Downloads directory. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: maybe off topic but how do I setup orca on a flash drive
Hi, After dowloading the .iso file and checking the md5sum I simply do the following: 1. insert the memory stick. 2. in a terminal type: usb-creator-gtk Note: you can press Tab after typing 'usb-c' 3. press Enter. 4. follow the steps on the screen. Success.\Milton Op 07-05-2020 om 22:23 schreef Don Raikes: Hello, It has been a number of years since I have used Ubuntu and then it was always on an installed version. I was using a desktop system that had a dvd drive so I could install from the burned dvd. Now none of my systems have dvd or cd drives, so I need to get a working copy of Ubuntu on a flash drive that I can run on my dell or linovo systems to perform system maintenance. Are there any “good docs on how to setup Ubuntu on a flash drive with persistence? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 20.04
Hi,\I did lots of fresh installs of Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 for sighted users with the great help of Orca. After pressing F12 for the boot menu I always need sighted assistance to tell me where my install pendrive is. The difference with 18.04 is that the disk is checked and this will take few minutes. After this process is ready and no errors found I then hear the welcome sound. So then I start Orca. Milton Op 05-05-2020 om 14:56 schreef Daniel Crone: Hello everyone. I am using Ubuntu 2020 with a Dell. When installing Ubuntu mate 2020.04 yesterday, I pressed f 12 to get to the boot menu. Then went to what I thought was the dvd choice. Since I could not bring up Orca for several attempts, I used Be My Eyes. The volunteer said that after I pressed f 12, a language choice prompt appeared. Then the choice whether to use Ubuntu before installing, or to install appeared. After entering on use before installing I then brought up Orca with super alt s. Should I have been able to bring up Orca before those other choices? Is this installer markedly different than with Ubuntu 2018.04? Had I not had Be My Eyes, how would I have known what to do in this situation? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: starting to learn Ubuntu as a second os. have some accessibility questions.
Hi, I have no problems installing Ubuntu 20.04 with the great help of Orca but I have no experience installing from a dvd or in a virtual machine. I am happy with: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html.en https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en Op 04-05-2020 om 14:28 schreef Austin Pinto: hi all. i made vm of the latest ltsb version of Ubuntu. i have the following questions. 1. is there a video series, podcast or guide to learn the entire use of orca? 2. is there some other tts for orca if yes how to get them? 3. is there a list of orca and plain Ubuntu keyboard shortcuts? i also want to install vmware tools. how do i do that? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Please forward, and thanks so much (fwd)
I think maybe he has gnome in stead of unity, he can heck it out in the terminal, type: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP Op 11-03-2020 om 17:52 schreef Jude DaShiell: I'm doing what I can to help Ray out with this. Apparently his version of ubuntu removed the gnome-classic option which is why he's having this trouble. -- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:46:11 From: Ray Jackson To: Jude Dashiel Subject: Please forward, and thanks so much Hi All, I've recently purchased a linux box from Think Penguin, and I find that orca is highly dysfunctional. I am not able to review the contents of the menu very effectively, and gnome is virtually inaccessible, although orca seems to work just fine in the terminal. when I saught to ascertain the version of linux on this machine, all I was able to get was "buster-sid." Older vions of linux used to have a menu that was accessed by alt-f1. In this menu one could shut down the system, access liber office, systems, networks and many other menu items. Well, this menu doesn't even seem to even exist anymore. This system cost me $700, and I would very much like to have a machine that is at least as functional as the system that I ran for years. I have been without a computer for a year and a half, and I find that so much has changed. Might I be using a version of ubuntu that orca hasn't caught up with yet? If this is the case, would I be better off dropping back to an older version? At this point, I haven't a clue as to how to proceed. Responders may want to respond off list so as to avoid bogarding list traffic, or if convenient, I would welcome a call @ 386-453-1147. Any help that anyone can give would be most highly appreciated. I am in rather a bind at the moment, and think penguine is a bit shy on their technical support. Sincere Regards, ray Jackson -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu version query
You can se the version of Ubuntu in the terminal, type: lsb_release -a Op 11-03-2020 om 17:40 schreef Jude DaShiell: A friend has in /etc/debian_version buster-sid. What version of ubuntu has he got on his computer? -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Screen Reader's Speech Rate
Hi Vlad, A while ago I saved the instructions and paste them below: First you have to enable some repositories. 1. Open Software & Updates. * on the Ubuntu software tab enable source repository. * on the Other software tab, Check the boxes next to Canonical partners and Canonical partners source repositories. * Click close. * When requested, click reload cache. 2. Open a terminal window, press Alt+Control+T. 3. Install git, type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter. sudo apt-get install git 4. Install build dependencies. Type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter. sudo apt-get build-dep orca 5. Get the orca source code. Type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter. git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/orca.git 6. Build and install orca. * Change to your orca repository created in step 5. Type the following and press Enter: cd orca * Configure orca source. Type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter.: PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3.7 ./autogen.sh * build orca. Type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter.: make * Install the built binaries. Type or copy and paste the following command and press Enter.: : sudo make install 7. When install is complete, restart the system. You then will have Orca 3.35.1pre. Orca will tell if you start the Learn mode by pressing Orca + Space bar. To keep up with Orca master is very simple: Start a terminal and change to the orca folder: cd orca So now you just type: git pull and press Enter If there are updates you have to execute the next 3 commands: PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3.7 ./autogen.sh make sudo make install Success, Milton Op 09-12-2019 om 13:08 schreef vladdragomir1...@gmail.com: Hello Milton, Thank you for the reply. Sorry for the stupid request, but would you teach me how to install Orca master to see if the problem goes away here as well? Thanks in advance and a very good day to you. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Screen Reader's Speech Rate
Hi Vlad, For my daily work I use Ubuntu 18.04 but just out of curiousity I tried 19.10 and I met with the same problem as you described. So I installed Orca master and Orca is doing well. Milton Op 09-12-2019 om 11:15 schreef vladdragomir1...@gmail.com: Greetings everyone, First I'd like to apologise if this is not the right place to ask for help. I'm relatively new, slowly getting started with both Linux and Orca. Now, here's the thing: I've installed Ubuntu 19.10 in a virtual machine, and I'm having a problem when trying to adjust Orca's preferences, more precisely the speech rate. As soon as I press either Apply or OK, the speed goes back to the default, and the Preferences dialogue doesn't close. When I press escape, everything freezes for a few seconds. All the other changes seem to be saved, except the speed. Am I missing something here? Should I do things differently? I'll be grateful for any help. I've just tried a live session on a real computer this morning,and encountered exactly the same behaviour. Many thanks in advance. Kind regards, Vlad. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: accessible login
Hi, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 19.04 on a Lenovo laptop. After I installed Mate-desktop. In the login screen Super+Alt+S works as expected. Maybe you can try to login without speech in Mate. 1. press Enter and type your password. 2. Tab twice to land on a combobox to choose a session. 3. Press the Spacebar to open the combobox. 4. Arrow-Down to land on the first option which should be Mate. 5. Press the Spacebar to select this option. 6. Press Tab to land on the Sign Inn button and press Enter. After login press Super+Alt+S to start Orca. Success. Milton Op 06-07-19 om 22:52 schreef mjonsson1...@gmail.com: I use ubuntu 19.04 clean install on a chromebook dualboot I installed mate (seems gnome3 are installed too) But how to get orca to work on the login screen so i can start mate Now gnome Shell are started I hate gnome Shell I tryed super+alt+s on the login screen yes i have a usb keyboard connected Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> för Windows 10 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how can I create a shortcut key in keyboard setting?
Hi, I use Ubuntu 18.04 with Orca master. I want to set a shortcut key to run a shell script. Sighted users tell me there is in keyboard setting a 'plus sign' to click on for this task. However the 'plus sign' is not visible for Orca. Do you know another way? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Putting iso on to usb stick
For this task I use the terminal with usb-creator-gtk Milton Op 24-08-18 om 22:46 schreef Daniel Crone: After starting disk image, and telling it to burn an ubuntu iso on to a stick, orca is quiet, and it seems I cannot do anything. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: 18.04 no log in as guest
Indeed, I also noticed it. I can create an account for Guest but do anyone know how to login without a password? Milton Op 21-08-18 om 06:27 schreef Daniel Crone: Anyone else notice that ubuntu 18.04 has no log in as guest? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Full Screen Magnifier for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
Hi, If you use Ubuntu 18.04 check for zoom: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/a11y-mag.html.en alt+super+= zoom out alt+super+- zoom in Alt+Super+8 toggle zoom Success. Milton Op 15-07-18 om 02:15 schreef Harry Staley: Good evening; I have been using the Compiz tools and am concerned that it does not magnify the entire screen. I am a Mac user and am used to having the entire screen magnified. What alternatives or recommendations do you have? I have read and tried many of the solutions out there on the internet, but have not found one that works well. Harry Staley Owner stal...@craftedtech.net <mailto:stal...@craftedtech.net> Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/harrystaley/ GitHub https://github.com/harrystaley -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu tutorial
Hi, You can Tab to 'Menu overview' and arrow down in this list. Press Enter on a subject and toggle to browse mode with Orca-key+a. You can go to the top of the page with Control+Home and start reading. Milton Op 31-05-18 om 16:46 schreef Daniel Crone: Here is a link to a tutorial from Ubuntu. I cannot figure out how to move from one section to another. https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu#0 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: where is the sound of the drums during install and login screen?
It works for me in Ubuntu. Open startup applications Tab to and press the Add button you can type a name for this action Tab to type or paste the command: /usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login" Tab to the Add button, press Enter Tab to the Close button and press Enter. Success. Milton Op 23-05-18 om 11:23 schreef Alex ARNAUD: Hello Milton, I'm also interested in this sound. Could you tell us how to make it working? When I use the command you give us I obtain the following error: Failed to play sound: File or data not found Do you know how it works and how to find the package that provides the data? Best regards, Alex. Le 23/05/2018 à 08:12, Milton a écrit : Hi Glenn, If you mean the welcom sound of Ubuntu then you can set this in Startup application with the command: /usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login" Milton Op 21-05-18 om 16:33 schreef Ervin, Glenn: Hi, Along with this, I have had trouble getting any sound when Ubuntu starts. I have gone into preferences and set sounds, and I do get some, but still nothing on startup. It would be helpful to know when you have reached a point before you enable Orca. Glenn -Original Message- From: Ubuntu-accessibility [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Milton Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:24 AM To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: where is the sound of the drums during install and login screen? Hi, I miss the sound of the drums when installing Ubuntu 18.04. The sound of the drums is the signal to start Orca with Super+Alt+S. I also miss the drums in the login screen. After installing with the help Of Orca, the screen reader, and restart I expected Orca to start automatically. So once more Super+Alt+S to start Orca. Now I am fine running 18.04 with Orca 3.28.0 Many thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: where is the sound of the drums during install and login screen?
Hi Glenn, If you mean the welcom sound of Ubuntu then you can set this in Startup application with the command: /usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login" Milton Op 21-05-18 om 16:33 schreef Ervin, Glenn: Hi, Along with this, I have had trouble getting any sound when Ubuntu starts. I have gone into preferences and set sounds, and I do get some, but still nothing on startup. It would be helpful to know when you have reached a point before you enable Orca. Glenn -Original Message- From: Ubuntu-accessibility [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Milton Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:24 AM To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: where is the sound of the drums during install and login screen? Hi, I miss the sound of the drums when installing Ubuntu 18.04. The sound of the drums is the signal to start Orca with Super+Alt+S. I also miss the drums in the login screen. After installing with the help Of Orca, the screen reader, and restart I expected Orca to start automatically. So once more Super+Alt+S to start Orca. Now I am fine running 18.04 with Orca 3.28.0 Many thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
where is the sound of the drums during install and login screen?
Hi, I miss the sound of the drums when installing Ubuntu 18.04. The sound of the drums is the signal to start Orca with Super+Alt+S. I also miss the drums in the login screen. After installing with the help Of Orca, the screen reader, and restart I expected Orca to start automatically. So once more Super+Alt+S to start Orca. Now I am fine running 18.04 with Orca 3.28.0 Many thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca not speaking at the login screan
Hi, After I installed Ubuntu 16.04.3 with the help of Orca I got speech in the login screen. Be sure you have sound in the login screen. If you heard the drums than it' OK. On some hardware I noticed the sound was muted or too low. Maybe you can try Alt_Super_S or activate the screen reader in the Ubuntu menu in the top right corner of the screen. If I remember right press Alt_F10 then richt arrow once and up arrow once, then press Enter. Milton Op 05-02-18 om 03:13 schreef daniel wolak: Good morning, I'm just attempting to figure out what's going on with this. I'm using ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, with orca as my screenreader of choice. The only issue that I'm running into is the fact that at the login screen orca isn't active. Anyone come accross this before and know a solution? Many thanks, Daniel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux
Hi Rob, Great news! Will Vinux 7 based on Fedora and when will the release be planned? Milton Op 15-03-17 om 12:53 schreef Rob Whyte: Hi Werwoelfchen, It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. Cheers Rob On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: Hi, Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? Regards, Wolfram Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop some visions we have had for some time. Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM devices. Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on the availability of hardware. We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. Kind regards Rob Whyte Vinux project manager -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: is s peech possible in in Kodi 17.0?
Hi Peter, Many many many thanks! This enables me in my job to help sighted people. Milton Op 13-02-17 om 11:24 schreef Peter Vágner: Hello, Yes, this is possible but there is an additional step needed to enable the addon since Kodi 17. Assumed you have done all that Kyle has recommended i.e. created the folder structure ~/.kodi/addons and unzipped service.xbmc.tts in there you also need to do the following. - Start kodi and arrow around the home screen. Make sure you can hear clicking sound as you are navigating on the Kodi home screen. - Now close kodi by pressing letter s followed by the enter key or if you are on the desktop you can also press alt+F4. - Now use sqlite3 commandline to poke at the database file ~/.kodi/userdata/Database/Addons27.db - When you can see sqlite prompt type in the following: UPDATE installed SET enabled=1 WHERE addonID='service.xbmc.tts'; - Now you are done editing sqlite database just exit out of sqlite by typing in .q - Now start Kodi and enjoy the Kodi screen reader addon. Greetings Peter On 13.02.2017 at 10:48 Milton wrote: Hi, I installed kodi by doing the following: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kodi I also followed the instructions Kyle gave: wget http://mirrors.kodi.tv/addons/krypton/service.xbmc.tts/service.xbmc.tts-1.0.6.zip mkdir -p .kodi/addons cd .kodi/addons unzip ~/service.xbmc.tts-1.0.6.zip cd After I launch Kodi 17.0 I have no speech. Did I miss something? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
is s peech possible in in Kodi 17.0?
Hi, I installed kodi by doing the following: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kodi I also followed the instructions Kyle gave: wget http://mirrors.kodi.tv/addons/krypton/service.xbmc.tts/service.xbmc.tts-1.0.6.zip mkdir -p .kodi/addons cd .kodi/addons unzip ~/service.xbmc.tts-1.0.6.zip cd After I launch Kodi 17.0 I have no speech. Did I miss something? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Alt+ Super+S Not working on Most Versions of Live CD
Hi, I cannot confirm because I already did several installation with 16.04.1 and Orca. Milton Op 04-11-16 om 16:08 schreef Al Puzzuoli: Hello, I'm finding that I am unable to start Orca on most versions of the Ubuntu Live CD. After I hear the Tom Tom sound, I press alt+super+S, and nothing happens. This has been the case on almost all versions of the live CD I have tried, except for Ubuntu Mate 16.10. I've tried Regular Ubuntu 16.10, Regular Ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, all of which have had the same issue. I also just tried several flavors of the Zesty live CD, and experienced the same problem. Questions: Is this a known issue? If not, should I file a bug? If I do need to file a bug, where should I file it? The issue doesn't seem to be limited to any single release. Meanwhile, are there any workarounds I can use to get the screen reader going for now? Thanks, Al -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 16.04.1, no orca
Hi, I succesfully installed 16.04.1 with the help of Orca. Alt F10 takes you to the menubar in the upper right corner of the screen and alt F1 takes you to the Starter. Milton Op 26-10-16 om 01:59 schreef Daniel Crone: I have ubuntu on a stick, and ran it. Once I installed on a computer. But I have to reinstall because there is no way to get to the menu bar. Is it alt f 10? Also, when running the stick again, I get the drumbs, then try super key alt s, and no orca. Anyone else have that happen? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} making an ISO image
Indeed, the entire usb-drive is selected.
Milton
Op 06-08-16 om 21:17 schreef Glenn / Lenny:
Hi Milton,
With that command, it brings up the program, and I can select the USB drive
in question, but the only options are other..., which seems to be for adding
more file types, and the other option is to close.
I don't find an option for file name to write to, or a browse to where I
want to put it.
Thanks.
Glenn
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From: "Milton" <mil...@tomaatnet.nl>
To: "Glenn / Lenny" <ger...@cableone.net>;
<ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: {Spam?} making an ISO image
Hi,
Maybe this will be of help:
in Ubuntu 16.04 I type in a terminal after the flash drive is inserted:
usb-creator-gtk
Milton
Op 06-08-16 om 19:01 schreef Glenn / Lenny:
Hi,
I have been trying several different programs including the DD command,
and either the program seems inaccessible with Orca, or I was not able
to place my image to be, into another drive.
I am running Ubuntu from a live version on an 8GB card.
I have a bootable USB 16GB thumb drive that I want to make into an ISO
image on /dev/sda2.
/dev/sda2 is where my old Ubuntu lives, and I cannot boot to, as grub
got messed up, and I just fixed the MBR so I could at least boot into
Windows on that system.
On a side note, I tried fixing GRUB with no luck, so I will just get a
larger drive and reinstall everything, and copy out files from that
drive when I replace it.
In the meantime, if I do get GRUB working again, this making an ISO
image would be easier, because in one program I was using, it would only
allow me to make an ISO of the USB drive into a directory of this live
boot disk, which is only 8GB.
The boot disk I am wanting to make a copy of is /dev/sdb
So with DD, I tried:
sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda2/home/Downloads
And I even tried it directly into /dev/sda2
and I tried all commands with giving the ISO a file name at the end,
like /dev/sda2/usb-image.iso
I tried it with acetoneiso and it gave me the same errors as DD did.
I tried k3b and genisoimage, and a couple others.
I would even write it to a folder on /sda1 if possible, which is an NTFS
partition.
Thanks for any ideas.
Glenn
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Re: {Spam?} making an ISO image
Hi, Maybe this will be of help: in Ubuntu 16.04 I type in a terminal after the flash drive is inserted: usb-creator-gtk Milton Op 06-08-16 om 19:01 schreef Glenn / Lenny: Hi, I have been trying several different programs including the DD command, and either the program seems inaccessible with Orca, or I was not able to place my image to be, into another drive. I am running Ubuntu from a live version on an 8GB card. I have a bootable USB 16GB thumb drive that I want to make into an ISO image on /dev/sda2. /dev/sda2 is where my old Ubuntu lives, and I cannot boot to, as grub got messed up, and I just fixed the MBR so I could at least boot into Windows on that system. On a side note, I tried fixing GRUB with no luck, so I will just get a larger drive and reinstall everything, and copy out files from that drive when I replace it. In the meantime, if I do get GRUB working again, this making an ISO image would be easier, because in one program I was using, it would only allow me to make an ISO of the USB drive into a directory of this live boot disk, which is only 8GB. The boot disk I am wanting to make a copy of is /dev/sdb So with DD, I tried: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda2/home/Downloads And I even tried it directly into /dev/sda2 and I tried all commands with giving the ISO a file name at the end, like /dev/sda2/usb-image.iso I tried it with acetoneiso and it gave me the same errors as DD did. I tried k3b and genisoimage, and a couple others. I would even write it to a folder on /sda1 if possible, which is an NTFS partition. Thanks for any ideas. Glenn -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
LIOS in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
Hi, I installed LIOS with sudo apt-get install lios in Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit with Orca 3.20.1 With F8 and F9 for scanning I got no results, even when I went to the menubar with Alt_F10 and pressing the options for scanning and scan and read. Do I miss something for LIOS to work? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how to burn data on a cd with Orca
Hi List, I tried in Brasero to burn data on a cd with the help of Orca in Ubuntu 14.04 Orca 3.18.1 I could select files but Orca keeps quiet. Do you know what to do best? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible?
Oh yes it is indeed there. I was looking for another menu because my system is not in English. Milton Op 06-05-16 om 14:18 schreef Christopher Chaltain: I haven't been following this thread, so I'm not sure if this will be helpful or not, but use alt+f1 and then left arrow and down arrow to get to the admin and other menus. On 06/05/16 02:07, Milton wrote: I cannot find any admin menu. So I let a sighted person help to connect with wifi. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 20:54 schreef Jude DaShiell: If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in root for that to work. Another possibility as root in graphical user interface is to hit alt-f1 then downarrow to system then rightarrow into that menu. There should be an admin menu in system so rightarrow into admin then downarrow onto no network is connected then hit enter. You'll get a list of networks Ubuntu found so downarrow to your network then rightarrow onto the add network button and hit enter. You'll get prompted for a password so enter that, then rightarrow onto connect and hit enter. If I remember all of the mapping of ubuntu I shared with you here in this message correctly you should get connected. On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:40:45 From: Milton <mil...@tomaatnet.nl> To: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>, "ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, does it make any sense? Milton Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens. On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 From: Milton <mil...@tomaatnet.nl> To: "ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ I did not notice any changes. So I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right corner of the screen to connect with wifi. I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. Thanks. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: Hi List, Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? I installed GNOME Metacity with: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible?
I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, does it make any sense? Milton Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens. On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 From: Milton <mil...@tomaatnet.nl> To: "ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ I did not notice any changes. So I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right corner of the screen to connect with wifi. I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. Thanks. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: Hi List, Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? I installed GNOME Metacity with: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible?
I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ I did not notice any changes. So I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right corner of the screen to connect with wifi. I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. Thanks. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: Hi List, Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? I installed GNOME Metacity with: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible?
Hi List, Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? I installed GNOME Metacity with: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
installing 16.04 with Orca LibreOffice Calc stops working
Hi, I installed 16.04 with Orca on a laptop with 2 GB RAM and I notice Orca 3.18.2. During the installation Orca stops speaking when I had to schoose a region. A sighted person cliked on the Next button and after that I could finisch the installation successfully. I also installed the GNOME Metacity and noticed that the notification menubar in the top richt corner of the screen is now accessible with Orca bij using Control+Alt+Tab and after the Tab and arrow keys. When using LibreOffice Calc: Orca stops speaking as soon as I insert a formula in a cel for example =25+30 At the same time I can work further with Orca using other applications. I will wait for updates to have the best of Orca and 16.04. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca won't start on 16.04
Press Alt+super+S I just installed 16.04 successfully with the help of Orca. Milton Op 22-04-16 om 19:51 schreef chad baker: Hi just burned 16.04 to disk and orca won’t start when doing control s Did things change? thanks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} Re: will speech be possible with BQ Aquaris M10 convergence?
Many thanks for your answer. Hopefully it will be once accessible with speech. Milton Op 01-04-16 om 04:10 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 10:20:33AM AEDT, Nolan Darilek wrote: I feel like the OP's question is a bit different. My understanding of these devices is that they become full(er) desktops when plugged in to external hardware. At this point, would existing desktop APIs take over and grant a desktop-like level of a11y, even if they don't work in touch mode? No, because it is not the same code base, sorry I probably didn't make that clear. Its totally new Unity, based on Qt5, based on Mir, no X involved, no Gtk anywhere so far as I know, etc. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
will speech be possible with BQ Aquaris M10 convergence?
Hi, Now the BQ Aquaris M10 convergence with Ubuntu 15.04 is out will Orca works when connecting it to a keyboard and screen? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu phones and accessibility for the blind
Yes, I prefer an Ubuntu phone and convergence accessible with speech. Milton Op 01-03-16 om 05:12 schreef Michael Pozhidaev: Hi guys, A lot of rumors appears around the Ubuntu phone, what is very great news in itself. I'm just wondering is there any work to make this phone accessible for the blind? Or it is already suitable now? Anyway, what is its status regarding its accessibility for the blind? I'm a totally blind man. Due to very serious concerns on Android's security, I'd like to find something different. My question is mostly about basic phone functions, including making calls, maintaining contacts list and SMS reading, rather than general accessibility in applications. If there is nothing ready with that yet, I agree to participate in any work which potentially could result in necessary features for the blind. I'm a software engineer working on Linux for a long time, and I would be happy to be useful. But, of cource, if there are any ideas what to do. Thanks to everybody! :)) -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Many thanks for clarification. Milton Op 12-12-15 om 02:02 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 07/12/2015 15:10, Milton wrote: Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? The algorithm used by the magnifier is not perfect zoom so when you increasing size the text and image can be pixelized. If you want to compare with Windows screen magnifier, you can compare with Windows built-in magnifier. ZoomText or some other screen magnifier have advanced algorithm that make the view on the screen very readable even if you zoom at 36 factor. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, Op 30-11-15 om 22:06 schreef Alex ARNAUD: > Can you give me more information about users : > - Are there visual impaired ? Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, Op 30-11-15 om 22:06 schreef Alex ARNAUD: Can you give me more information about users : - Are there visual impaired ? Yes, I have a sighted person to test and he found it blurry at the level of one line fits on the screen. So I will have some visually impaired test and wait on their experiences. In ubuntu 15.10 I got gnome-shell 3.16. Will the video card and the screen have something to do with the blurry view? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi Alex, I only use Orca myself but often people ask me for magnification. Because I got no result in Unity and Gnome-flashback-Metacity I use Gnome-shell 3.10.4. I do not know the screen level because Orca do not say this. I use the build-in magnifyer, I toggel the zoom, zoom-in en zoom-out through the shortcut keys in Systemsettings > Keyboardsetting. So I did not check the magnification in the compizconfig-setting-manager. Milton Op 30-11-15 om 05:35 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 29/11/2015 19:24, Milton wrote: Hi List, Hi Milton I use Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18 and installed gnome-shell for someone to work with magnification. I also installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. Now I can toggle magnification on or off, zoom in and zoom out. The only thing left to be perfect is sharpness. The view is blurry. Did I miss something? Do you have tips for me? Can you explain your problem with more detailed ?. If I remember Gnome3 and Compiz aren't compatible. What desktop environment are you using and what screen magnifier ? At which level of zoom are you (6x/7x and more ?)? I believe but not sure the visual impaired community are mostly composed of blind people. We are a very little community that uses screen magnifier at the time but I expect with recent changes new user come to grow the Linux screen magnifier community. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
blurry view with magnification in Gnome
Hi List, I use Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18 and installed gnome-shell for someone to work with magnification. I also installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. Now I can toggle magnification on or off, zoom in and zoom out. The only thing left to be perfect is sharpness. The view is blurry. Did I miss something? Do you have tips for me? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Is Xubuntu accessible with Orca? Milton Op 23-11-15 om 00:36 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: Hi List, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I changed some short cut keys for avoiding using the Suer key. In Unity and Metacity nothing happens with magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some tips? Thanks. Milton Xubuntu 15.10 zooms and pans without any configuration. Just hold the key and scroll the mouse wheel. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Hi Alex, I installed xcalib and when I ran xcalib -i -a in a terminal I get indeed the negative view. Thanks. But in the keyboard settings I cannot find the short key setting for to toggle it on or off. In compizconfig-settings-manager I did check the negative function but the short key does nothing. Milton Op 21-11-15 om 14:57 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 21/11/2015 14:17, Milton wrote: Hi List, Hi I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I changed some short cut keys for avoiding using the Suer key. In Unity and Metacity nothing happens with magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some tips? Thanks. Gnome-shell works great but for negative view you should install xcalib command with option "-i -a". In the keyboard settings you can affect keyboard shortcut to this command. Best regards. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: {Spam?} Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Hi Alex, For adding a new short key I have to type the command for the negative view to start or to stop. What command do you use? Even it is in French maybe I can recognise some. Thanks. Milton Op 21-11-15 om 17:50 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 21/11/2015 17:43, Milton wrote: Hi Alex, I installed xcalib and when I ran xcalib -i -a in a terminal I get indeed the negative view. Thanks. But in the keyboard settings I cannot find the short key setting for to toggle it on or off. In compizconfig-settings-manager I did check the negative function but the short key does nothing. OK, the steps in Gnome-shell are : 1) Go to keyboard settings 2) Go to the second tab 3) Go to last item on the left panel to create personalized shortcuts 4) Add new one with the command and define a keyboard shortcuts I use a French system so I cannot give you the right name of element. Best regards. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Hi List, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 to try magnification. I installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins. I notice that Enhanced Zoom Desktop is enabled by default. I changed some short cut keys for avoiding using the Suer key. In Unity and Metacity nothing happens with magnification while in Gnome-shell it works. But in Gnome-shell negative view is not working after I checked this function. Do you have some tips? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: magnification in Ubuntu 15.10?
Many thanks Alex, it works! Milton Op 21-11-15 om 19:37 schreef Alex ARNAUD: On 21/11/2015 18:07, Milton wrote: Hi Alex, For adding a new short key I have to type the command for the negative view to start or to stop. What command do you use? Even it is in French maybe I can recognise some. The command is "xcalib -i -a". -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 15.10 dvd and Orca
Hi List, It seems that Orca is indeed working during installation. I could not hear Orca speaking so with the help of a sighted person I install 15.10 and after reboot Orca came up talking in the login screen and also after login. Milton Op 12-11-15 om 14:54 schreef Milton: Hi List, I downloaded and burn Ubuntu 15.10 on a dvd and did the check with md5sum also for the dvd. I started my laptop with the dvd and heard the sound of the drums. I press Alt_Super_S for starting Orca but nothing happens. I also tried Control_S which works in 14.04 but no Orca. Is Orca not included or do I miss something. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu 15.10 dvd and Orca
Hi List, I downloaded and burn Ubuntu 15.10 on a dvd and did the check with md5sum also for the dvd. I started my laptop with the dvd and heard the sound of the drums. I press Alt_Super_S for starting Orca but nothing happens. I also tried Control_S which works in 14.04 but no Orca. Is Orca not included or do I miss something. Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: 14.04 logon screen: Orca starts up and immediately shuts down
Hi, It happens to me sometimes. I run 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18. I then restart Orca by pressing twice Control and S. Milton Op 12-10-15 om 12:21 schreef Nick Wood: Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 (32-bit) and have Orca set to start automatically at the logon screen, but I'm getting some weird behaviour: Basically what happens is this: 1. I get the sound of the drums. 2. Orca says: "Screen reader on. Login screen frame. Screen reader off." 3. I then have to start up Orca again using the Alt+Super+S combination and after that it seems OK. I don't see this behaviour on my Fedora 22 box - just the Ubuntu one. Anyone got any ideas why Orca is shutting down? The fact that it says "Screen reader off" makes me think it's a controlled shutdown rather than a crash. Thanks, Nick -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
restore a bakcup in 14.04.3 with Orca
Hello List, I use Ubuntu a fresh install of 14.04.3 with Orca 3.18. I tried to restore a backup which I Used last week with succes on another computer. So I went through Systemsettings > Backup and alk through the settings. When the restore starts Orca shuts down and I automatically log out and find me in the login screen. What could be wrong and how can I solve this? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how can I get a beep sound when GRUB appears
Hi, A question for a TERRA MOBILE 1712 dual boot with Ubuntu 14.04 and Orca 3.16.2. I would like to enable a beep sound when GRUB appears. So I did in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub and I notice the line: # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1" So I did uncomment the line and ran update-grub. But still no beep. Do I miss something? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how can I get a beep sound when GRUB appears
Many thanks Kyle! I've got the beep now. Milton Op 17-09-15 om 18:34 schreef Kyle: One thing you may possibly need to do once you uncomment that line is to run sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg If this still produces no beep, then it's likely that your device is incapable of beeping before the kernel's sound driver is loaded, in which case, you will hear nothing from GRUB. Sent from my underwater city -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Thank you for some clarification. I found: http://www.hamradioandvision.com/compiz-magnification-in-ubuntu/ ccsm is not fully accessible with Orca. But we are one step further. Milton Op 18-07-15 om 06:51 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: Hi blind Pete, I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, button2 etc. Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. Milton [snip] On a standard mouse; button 1 is the left mouse button, button 2 is the middle button (press the scroll wheel down), button 3 is the right button, button 4 means scroll the mouse wheel one way, button 5 means scroll the wheel the other way. Exotic mice might have more buttons. If you want to be difficult you can reassign buttons in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I strongly discourage that. On the keyboard; alt, control, and shift should be obvious. Very old keyboards do not have a Super/Windows/Tux key, most have a Windows logo on a key between the Control and Alt keys. (One on each side of the keyboard.) Also, if you have a European keyboard there is one more key than on a US keyboard, and the left and right Alt keys are different. Superbutton5 means hold down one of the keys with a Windows logo on it and scroll the mouse wheel. If you are very lucky you might have pictures of penguins rather than windows. Off topic: Top-posting is normal for most e-mail and some USENET groups. Bottom posting is more normal around here. Be prepared to trim stuff that you are not replying to. I usually add an editor's mark like [snip] to indicate that I have deleted stuff. Anyone who wants to see the original can easily go back to an older message. I am accessing this as a news group via nntp at gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.accessibility although I guess that you are using it as e-mail. Consider using a news reader rather than a mail agent. It is also possible to look at old posts with a web browser. Also if your signature starts with newline dash dash space newline most news readers will recognize it as a signature and automatically not include it any reply. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Thank you Luke for the information. It gives me hope for my projects using the LTS 16.04. For now I have to figure out about the Compiz settings for to try out. Do you mean Compiz with the GNOME shell?magnifier Milton Op 17-07-15 om 00:45 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:49:29AM AEST, Milton wrote: I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. If your friend needs cursor/text tarcking, then the GNOME shell magnifier is likely the best option. GNOME Shell 3.16 will be in Wily, due for release in October, and I am pretty sure that has cursor/textt tracking. Its also in vivid's GNOME shell 3.14, but I am not sure whether 3.16 has improvements in that area or not, so it will need investigation. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Hi blind Pete, I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, button2 etc. Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. Milton Op 17-07-15 om 06:07 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. [snip] How far did you get? ccsm, check enable enhanced zoom desktop, set mouse zoom in button to SuperButton4 and mouse zoom out button to SuperButton5. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. Milton Op 16-07-15 om 09:23 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work with magnification? Thanks in advance. Milton I am not sure how well compiz is supported, or if it is being superseded, but I love the e-zoom feature. With Mythbuntu LTS (and a bit of configuration) holding down the Tux/Windows/Super key and scrolling the mouse wheel puts the screen into a zoom and pan mode. Or, buy a bigger screen, and reconfigure everything to use large fonts, large icons, large pointers, etc. Sometimes you can cheat and tell the computer that the screen is a different size from what it really is - but things tend to get messy when you do that. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
working with magnification
A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work with magnification? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
is Ubuntu accessible on the raspberry pi?
Hello everybody, I'm wondering if Ubuntu is accessible with Orca on the raspberry pi? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
solved: how to get Orca to speak in lightdm
Hi all, Thanks to Rob for helping me out and also thanks to B.H. I'm an end user and happy to learn by the instructions I get. Milton Op 30-04-15 om 10:50 schreef Rob Whyte: Hi, You can make sure your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf looks like this: [SeatDefaults] greeter-session=unity-greeter user-session=ubuntu Good luck Cheers Rob On 30/04/15 16:45, Milton wrote: Hi Rob, Thanks for the instructions. It shows that my current display manager is lightdm. After I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm but still I got a login screen without sound. Even the sound of the drums. I try by pressing Ctrl_S and Alt_Super_S and Ctrl_Super_S without success. somebody told me to set unity greeter as the default but I don't know how. Milton Op 29-04-15 om 11:29 schreef Rob Whyte: Hi, first check to see what your current display manager is. type: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager Note the capital X in the above command. If anything other than /usr/sbin/lightdm is printed that is your problem. If so try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm arrow down to lightdm if there are other choices and push enter. Then next time you start your machine you should be using lightdm. Good luck Kind regards Rob Whyte On 29/04/15 18:02, Milton wrote: HI B.H. dpkg -l|grep lxdm gave no results. To make sure I did sudo apt-get purge lubuntu-desktop and reinstall ubuntu-desktop lightdm is still installed and again I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm But still no talking login screen. I set my laptop to automatically login so when my wife wants to use her account I then change for another user in de system menu. Milton Op 28-04-15 om 10:13 schreef B. Henry: I almost nevr install via the software center, so do not know commands for checking dependencies from there. I'd make sure that I removed the extra packages . In a terminal or console run apt-cache depends lubuntu-desktop or what ever the original thing you installed was called. You can pipe the output to a textfile for later use. Then see if you still have any of those deps installed, but as far as I know what you want to get rid of is lxdm. dpkg -l|grep lxdm and see if it returns anything II means that a given pkg is installed. sudo apt-get purge for anything lubuntu specific to remove... Then reconfigure lightdm. Actually, it may have been removed as a conflicting package when you installed lubuntu stuff, so use dpkg -l to see if you have it still, and if not reinstall it. I hope nothing else required by a standard unity install was removed. It's worth checking log files to see exactly what was done if you still have trouble. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how to get Orca to speak in lightdm
HI B.H. dpkg -l|grep lxdm gave no results. To make sure I did sudo apt-get purge lubuntu-desktop and reinstall ubuntu-desktop lightdm is still installed and again I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm But still no talking login screen. I set my laptop to automatically login so when my wife wants to use her account I then change for another user in de system menu. Milton Op 28-04-15 om 10:13 schreef B. Henry: I almost nevr install via the software center, so do not know commands for checking dependencies from there. I'd make sure that I removed the extra packages . In a terminal or console run apt-cache depends lubuntu-desktop or what ever the original thing you installed was called. You can pipe the output to a textfile for later use. Then see if you still have any of those deps installed, but as far as I know what you want to get rid of is lxdm. dpkg -l|grep lxdm and see if it returns anything II means that a given pkg is installed. sudo apt-get purge for anything lubuntu specific to remove... Then reconfigure lightdm. Actually, it may have been removed as a conflicting package when you installed lubuntu stuff, so use dpkg -l to see if you have it still, and if not reinstall it. I hope nothing else required by a standard unity install was removed. It's worth checking log files to see exactly what was done if you still have trouble. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how to get Orca to speak in lightdm
In lightdm I use ctrl_S to start Orca to speak. But now it won't work. a sighted person told me that there is only one account shown in the login screen. so I think it is not lightdm. In the software Centre I delete the Lubuntu-desktop but I still stay with another dm. Milton Op 28-04-15 om 05:39 schreef B. Henry: It is once logged in for sure, but I thought it was different on log-in screen, aI may be wrong though, but now that I hear the lu instead of ubuntu I'm wondering if lightdm is even used . LXDM does not speak as far as I know, but perhaps it is not used. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how to get Orca to speak in lightdm
Hello List, I use Ubuntu Trusty with Orca 3.14.3 in Unity. I thought to show some friends the Lubuntu desktop and install this with the help of the software centre. But after this I have no Orca in the login screen. I did in a terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm without success. can you tell me how to get Orca to speak again in the login screen? Thank you. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
LibreOffice 4.2.7.2 in Trusty crashes
Hi all, I notice today LibreOffice Calc in Ubuntu Trusty constantly creashes. I work with Orca 3.14.3. What could be wrong or is it only on my laptop? Thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
reading mail in Thunderbird with Orca in Trusty
Hi all, I use Ubuntu Trusty with Orca. I notice that reading mails in Thunderbird 31.0 with the arrow keys Orca does not find all text. Sometimes I then use the letters h, o or p with succes within the incoming mail. Pressing f7 gives no result. Any idea? thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
backup app is very well accissible with Orca in Trusty
Hi, I 'm very sorry for my prior message about the backup app in Trusty not being accessible well with Orca. I navigate with the down arrow key and all tabs are spoken well by Orca. Many thanks. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
backup app and Orca in Trusty
Hi, In Ubuntu 12.04, Unity 2D the backup app did very well with Orca. In Trusty I can work with the flat review but the tabs are all spoken by Orca as PLANNING. Maybe a question of labeling? Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: gnome desktop in 14.04 inaccessible?
Hi, I have another experience. I did: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and after choose gnome flashback metacity to start up. alt_F1 takes me to the applications menu in the top menu bar and Orca is doing well. The only thing I met is that I cannot get with Orca to the Indicator applet where I can shutdown the machine. I do this by pressing the power button and then a dialog box appear to shutdown the machine. I also did: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and this is quite accessible with Orca. Milton Op 23-08-14 om 19:23 schreef Tony Bernedal: Hi I installed ubuntu gnome desktop on a test machine running ubuntu 14.04. I wanted to see if gnome desktop was more accessible than unity. I used the apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop. To my surprise it was not accessible at all. First I selected gdm as the video manager as described in a article I found. That loginscreen was not useable, couldn't change the session as I can with the default login. Fixed that so I was back to lightdm and that login screen works. Changed session to gnome and logged in. The program menu with alt+f1 was not useable at all. the panels seems to not work. No menus so the panels (if they are there at all) so the content can be changed. Any ideas here of a better desktop environment on ubuntu or is Vinux the only usefull distro nowdays. Ubuntu 12.04 was more usefull than this crap. Don't want to go to Windows but if accessibility on linux is so useless I think we don't have any options left. Regards Tony -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu gnome 14.04 question
I thank you so much. Milton Op 21-08-14 om 06:33 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 04:50:46PM AEST, Milton wrote: I'm actually helping sighted people to install Ubuntu on their devices. sometimes I met with laptops which have no super key. How can I start Orca in that case? Tanks. Well, perhaps I'll leave the Control S keystroke in place for the install process only. Everywhere else will be Super + Alt + S. It should be noted that the keystroke is not configurable on the Unity login screen, but it is configurable for the desktop session, and should be configurable for gdm, although I haven't checked. I prefer consistancy, but the amount of code to keep Control S around for the installer is small enough such that it can be left there. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu gnome 14.04 question
I'm actually helping sighted people to install Ubuntu on their devices. sometimes I met with laptops which have no super key. How can I start Orca in that case? Tanks. Milton Op 20-08-14 om 06:29 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:15:04PM AEST, Jeremy Lincicome wrote: Chad, The command to start the screen reader in both GDM and Gnome is no longer control S. The command is now Alt Windows S. It should be noted that we are in somewhat of a transition phase. Control S still works in the Unity greeter login and during the install process if booted directly to the install, but Super + Alt + S also works in the installer. Super + Alt + S does not currently work in the Unity greeter login, and I should actually fix that. Eventually everything will move over to Super + Alt + S as adopted by upstream. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: indicator applet of gnome-session-flashback is not accessible with Orca
Hi Luke, Super_M does nothing, Super_S takes me to the top bar and Orca lands on the Applications button. But I cannot get to the indicator applet. There are 2 important items in de indicator applet: 1. wireless connection and 2. to shut down the computer. If I can get how to put the shut down option into applications System it will be great. Milton Op 13-08-14 om 01:01 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:42:36PM AEST, Milton wrote: Dear developers, Because the Dash is not accessible with Orca in Trusty Unity I tried the gnome-session-metacity after installing: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback I cannot get to the indicator applet, in Unity I did this with Alt_F10. Try Super + S, or Super + M. I think the indicator-applet code should still have those keystrokes in its code. Unfortunately they are not configurable, but should still be there. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
indicator applet of gnome-session-flashback is not accessible with Orca
Dear developers, Because the Dash is not accessible with Orca in Trusty Unity I tried the gnome-session-metacity after installing: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback I cannot get to the indicator applet, in Unity I did this with Alt_F10. With ctrl_Alt_Tab I can switch to the bottom menubar. Is it possible to move the indicator applet to the bottom menubar? If so, how can I do this? Another question: using gnome-session-metacity I get to the application and location menu by Alt_F1 but on another desktop Alt_F1 had no results. Is there a setting to check out? Milton I notice that working with gnome-se -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
will the Dash be accessible for Orca in Trusty?
Hi developers, Can you tell me if the Dash will be accessible with Orca in Trusty in the near future? It is good to know if this will hapen or maybe for the next LTS version? Thanks for your hard work. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: will the Dash be accessible for Orca in Trusty?
I'm helping sighted people with using Ubuntu and Unity so it will be of great help if the Dash is accessible with Orca for me. for the record, I'm using speech only. Milton Op 11-08-14 om 10:55 schreef Krishnakant Mane: Making dash accessible should not be a hard work if it is not done so far. Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On Monday 11 August 2014 02:24 PM, Milton wrote: Hi developers, Can you tell me if the Dash will be accessible with Orca in Trusty in the near future? It is good to know if this will hapen or maybe for the next LTS version? Thanks for your hard work. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Distorted speech in Orca on 14.04
Hi Nick, Yes, this is a known issue. When this happens on my machine Ipress Alt_F2 and type killall speech-dispatcher then press enter. But last week I did a fresh install on my laptop of 14.04 and so far I did not met with this problem. Milton op 25-06-14 17:44, Nick Wood schreef: Hi all, I've just upgraded my Ubuntu installation from 12.04 to 14.04. So far all appears to be well, apart from the fact that Orca will sometimes produce distorted/garbled speech. It's as if the speech rate goes so high that you can't make out what is being said. This doesn't happen all the time, but there doesn't seem to be a pattern to it either. When it does go distorted, you can tab away from the control you were on and tab back to it, and it will speak the control properly at the normal speed. I've done some searching but couldn't find any definite pointers that might help pinpoint the problem. Can anyone offer any suggestions of things to try? Thanks in advance, Nick -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Orca does not start automatically in Ubuntu 14.04
Yes, I also log out the regular way. I have this problem on my desktop mcahine but on my laptop everything is fine. So I will do another fresh install on my desktop. Milton op 31-05-14 00:31, cov...@ccs.covici.com schreef: hmmm, did you try logging out the regular way instead? I am not a Ubuntu expert, but maybe something has to be set on logout. Milton mil...@tomaatnet.nl wrote: Yes I did. The strange thing is that when I then log out with Ctrl_Alt_Backspace Orca says Screen Off. And starting up in Gnome-shell I cannot start Orca with Alt_Super_S or with Alt_F2 and typing orca --replace. Milton op 30-05-14 22:31, Alex Midence schreef: Did you check screen reader on in the universal section of system settings? Alex M -Original Message- From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Milton Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:57 AM To: orca-l...@gnome.org; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [orca-list] Orca does not start automatically in Ubuntu 14.04 Hi all, Since a couple of days I notice that Orca does not start automatically anymore as it does before after login in my account in ubuntu 14.04. Pressing Alt_Super_S is not responding. I than press Alt_F2 and type orca --replace to start orca. Maybe this is only on my machine? I use Unity and Orca 3.10.3 Milton ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Orca does not start automatically in Ubuntu 14.04
Hi all, Since a couple of days I notice that Orca does not start automatically anymore as it does before after login in my account in ubuntu 14.04. Pressing Alt_Super_S is not responding. I than press Alt_F2 and type orca --replace to start orca. Maybe this is only on my machine? I use Unity and Orca 3.10.3 Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Orca does not start automatically in Ubuntu 14.04
Yes I did. The strange thing is that when I then log out with Ctrl_Alt_Backspace Orca says Screen Off. And starting up in Gnome-shell I cannot start Orca with Alt_Super_S or with Alt_F2 and typing orca --replace. Milton op 30-05-14 22:31, Alex Midence schreef: Did you check screen reader on in the universal section of system settings? Alex M -Original Message- From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Milton Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:57 AM To: orca-l...@gnome.org; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [orca-list] Orca does not start automatically in Ubuntu 14.04 Hi all, Since a couple of days I notice that Orca does not start automatically anymore as it does before after login in my account in ubuntu 14.04. Pressing Alt_Super_S is not responding. I than press Alt_F2 and type orca --replace to start orca. Maybe this is only on my machine? I use Unity and Orca 3.10.3 Milton ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
