Public bug reported:
Skype is mainly used for video to video calls, but it doesn't work by
default in ubuntu because a simple command is not set up correctly, thus
Unaccessible to non-tech users.
The current working command for webcam support in ubuntu 11.10 is:
env
** Description changed:
Skype is mainly used for video to video calls, but it doesn't work by
default in ubuntu because a simple command is not set up correctly, thus
Unaccessible to non-tech users.
The current working command for webcam support in ubuntu 11.10 is:
env
** Description changed:
Skype is mainly used for video to video calls, but it doesn't work by
default in ubuntu because a simple command is not set up correctly, thus
Unaccessible to non-tech users.
The current working command for webcam support in ubuntu 11.10 is:
env
too bad no one payed attention to my mockup in comment #9
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/765819/comments/9
needs updating and some tweaking but something like that would help with
the false positives a lot no matter where you encounter the problem
vertically (not just the top
@dabisu
I actually tested it (in a partial manner) with my dad and some friends
(my guinea pigs ;)). I un-maximize a window, stretch it and place it 6 o
7 pixels away from the left border. I noticed the times they stumbled
with launcher were reduced and the times the launcher appeared they
became
@alanbell
yea sometimes i would like to toggle the visibility options quickly when
working, kinda how you can on mac osx:
http://i.ehow.co.uk/images/a04/9m/bu/mac-os-x-dock-features-800x800.jpg
but most of the time i prefer it out of the way.
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ah yea the options are also on the dock itself:
http://assets.gcflearnfree.org/topics/202/dock_options.jpg
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Title:
Launcher - Make Launcher left
Even Vodacom had to make it more accessible by adding an user guide
right on the desktop where is really obvious (see pic):
http://blog.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/12/NED_0181.jpg
http://blog.canonical.com/2011/12/19/vodacom-success/
to solve this bug it needs to be something just as
@john
I agree.
and java was just an example. This could happen with other software.
I filed this initially in update-manager.
It needs to have a framework to notify clearly abrupt changes to the
user.
maybe it could use the same notification style system planned on this
bug:
Public bug reported:
removal of software in this form without a replacement is un-user-
friendly and un-expected.
Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of or
know how to deal with this abrupt change.
** Description changed:
removal of software in this form without a replacement is un-user-
friendly and un-expected.
Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of
or know how to deal with this abrupt change.
** Description changed:
removal of software in this form without a replacement is un-user-
- friendly and un-expected.
+ friendly, un-expected and bad practice.
Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of
or know how to deal with this abrupt change.
** Description changed:
Removal of software in this form without proper notification and
equivalent replacement is un-user-friendly, un-expected and bad
practice.
Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of
or know how to deal with this abrupt change.
** Description changed:
Removal of software in this form without proper notification and
equivalent replacement is un-user-friendly, un-expected and bad
practice.
Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of
or know how to deal with this abrupt change.
I think there is no one fix for this. But a combination of the
backports, PPAs, the USC updates UI, myApps, more promotion right in the
software center, crowd-sourcing and a project like getdeb which states
that UbuntuBackports project has a limited scope in comparison. GetDeb
extends the official
@Danillo
Down the road, if the devs see a necessity, it could also scale to
toggle persistence in maximized too (per app). But this bug is to
resolve the issue for unmaximized first, so that would probably be a
later topic.
But for discoverability, is going to help that it will be shown for 2
The dash, the scrollbars, the launcher, greeter, etc. all are still
evolving. So it can take a few cycles for some things to become feature
complete.
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so from #106 (which also includes #60) would be something like:
[X] Global Menu on (for predictability)
[X] Button toggles menu visibility in un-maximized windows
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@pedro
The M button is for demonstration. The devs could use it because is
small and non intrusive, but It could be changed to say menu or be the
name of the app too, if they think is better.
However, you should note, that this is not the same as a non
persistent dropdown menu button like
Yeap, specially the next LTS will be a big upgrade for many and very
different experience from the desktop they are still using. Would really
help improve the transition.
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ok, i made an horizontal and persistent variation of the vertical-kde-
appmenu:
On:
http://madjunir.deviantart.com/art/ubuntu-menu-button-un-maximized-windows-273062518
Off:
http://madjunir.deviantart.com/art/ubuntu-menu-button-un-maximized-windows2-273062844
Is like what you see on comment
I like the global menu *even less* on a mac.
at least we save some space on fullscreen with the current
implementation.
However, i think ubuntu doesnt want to clone mac, but create something
that is far better.
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hmm, back to the menu-button, this here cool concept mockup integrates
something similar and seems to go well with ubuntu's future multidevice
vision:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JSR8IC77Ub4/TTRvnGBMuxI/BoI/V4uAumdAngs/s1600
/ubuntu_theme_mockup_v4_by_rustedthorn-d3738bm.png
it doesnt have to be an extra click. it could be made to reveal on
hover.
If I go to click something in a window, but hover its app button, the
menu appears and I misclick a menu item.
@Pedro don't contradict yourself.
you hover with the current menus and also would hover with:
@Danillo
yes, i was thinking about exactly that. We have those 2 buttons that do
the same and clicking outside the dash also does the same.
we also have the home-lens button if we want to go back to the home-
lens.
the X could close and reset (like it is now).
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later, if people dislike the app button, because of the extra click,
phase out the global menu
it doesnt have to be an extra click. it could be made to reveal on
hover.
also since both menus are invisible and dont clutter the screen , both
options could be available for unmaximized.
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@Pedro Bessa
yea, fixing the bug with some of the proposals mentioned here, could
also open the possibility to having a much smaller and better looking
panel (aka wing style panel) in the future.
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funny video :)
Someone using Ubuntu who types Ctrl Alt Del is far more likely to have
previously used Windows than to have previously used Mac OS X
The point here is not to emulate Windows, but to provide something that people
pressing it are likely to be looking for
Valid points, but you're
For those that prefer it at the bottom for any reason, the bottom
launcher (Unity Plugin Rotated) just got a little better:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html
looking pretty nice:
@Robert
That's why i proposed a similar approach, but with a few tweaks (appear
on mouse over instead of click and possibly an horizontal layout instead
of vertical to match better the current behavior but for non maximized):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/comments/73
that should
Also in my case I dont see a problem with having both the global menu we
have now and the vertical-menu/button attached to the non-maximized
windows (Marco's idea). Since they both are hidden by default. But when
you hover you would activate either one.
Then when you maximize the window only the
forgot to link the comments to the pics:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/oxygen-appmenu-replace-menu-
with.html#comment-371672591
@Romano
I think is kde only for now, but seems to work also with gtk apps. maybe
needs some tweaking or porting.
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@Treviño
Very nice, I actually like it and maybe the menu could appear on mouse
over instead of click ?
looks good on gtk apps too:
http://minus.com/lbq3ka2PRj4EKV
http://minus.com/mbfBJxhgzj#2
It would also work well on maximized windows and the bar elements can hide as
they do now. Or
@johnlea
Thanks John, that's an interesting alternative.
The concept of lenses in the launcher was in natty , but I personally
didnt use it as i considered it duplication of the dash button (and now
removed in oneiric), but am sure some will find it useful or want the
feature back.
After some
@Sebastien
ok i see.
but it seems the normal mouse users are becoming the second class
citizens :o
super-type-enter is something only a power/kb user would use...
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@Sebastien
oh, and i didnt want to imply that keyboard power users are not
important.
but the system should differentiate between an user that uses the
keyboard to navigate and an user that will never use it.
keyboard power user:
if am a keyboard user i want the behavior we have now.
normal
@Sebastien
the question is to know if using a lens once means you are likely to
use it again next time you go to the dash?
yea, that's also the problem, how do we know the user *always* wants to
*search* every time he opens the dash?
that should also be a case study.
with keyboard users, looks
we don't, and that's not the case, there is probably cases where the
same user will use a lens once for a specific reason and where it will
use it several times for some reasons,
But imo that has been made the case here. It is suggested that the user
opens the dash to always search and thus this
@Pedro Bessa (pedbessa)
check comment 38:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/comments/38
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Title:
Global menu is not ergonomical on
@John Lea (johnlea)
Yes, creating a design that will satisfy everyone is indeed challenging
and time/resource consuming.
I still think some customability could be introduced.
for example bug #884123 suggests the ability to override the home lens.
I would personally prefer jumping directly to
@Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
changing lens is not destructive, i.e clicking to see has no cost
yes, is not destructive, but you need to click.
tooltips avoid extra clicking. The brain can get the info with just a
quick hover.
as for allowing tooltips in some lenses, for example the file-lens
Users usually press this key combo when something is wrong and their
system is very unresponsive.
In windows it gives you a Menu, not just one function (pic of w7
enterprise):
https://wiki.lepp.cornell.edu/lepp/pub/Computing/FirstWindowsLogon
/Win7Ctrl-alt-del.png
We can give users similar
another reference pic (but shows the entire fullscreen, the
accessibility options and the shutdown button):
http://desktudo.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/vista_ctrl_alt_del_screen___xp_by_flawless02.png
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@kamstrup
for myself i like option #1 since my dash already shows fullscreen.
would be weird to have a fullscreen dash that is empty...
as option #2 if some people want it (i believe for a non fullscreen
dash), then i see no reason why not to include that option.
As for the
If the above file was not found then load defaults. Defaults could be
something simple like Ubuntu Help, Ubuntu.com, Internet Browser, E-Mail,
etc.
I like the idea of the ubuntu-help / desktop-guide being more prominent
(either when you open the dash or on the launcher) or as one of the
default
would some of the apps that have been *recently installed* also show on
this new default view for users to find easily ?
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Title:
Dash - Remove
** Summary changed:
- Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). The Upgrade Popup does
not warn of the risks or offers fail-safe alternatives. This is a mouse trap
for unsuspecting users.
+ Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). What can be done to
safeguard data,
Actually, I'd like to remove these icons altogether, and have a thin
search box only by default. Can we test that, please?
sorry to ask but how would this work for fullscreen dash?
would this be some kind of override for the home-lens?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/884123
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I agree with Mark that at least this cycle there are more important
things that need attention.
for example.
- global menus not ergonomical on large screens.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788
- Reducing upgrading risks.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/null/+bug/876146
- polish and
@conscioususer
yes, am pretty aware how development works.
In everything you wrote, you didn't mention one single advantage of the
current behavior.
for me there is NONE really, am advocating the old one for default too
:)
But like i said before, if they don't want (who knows why) to
implement
accessibility items need to be set to medium and not wishlist
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Title:
Unity launcher and panel are not zoomable with Enhanced Zoom Desktop
To
the problem is more prominent if dash is set to full screen.
Lenses switcher could be made vertical next to results or next to search
(if enough space).
or maybe an option to customize where the user wants to see it?
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Should be an customizable option depending how the user uses its
computer and how many shortcut/apps they have on the launcher at the
time. Not every user is equal and the current behavior is not optimal
for many. Is good as default and for casual user with 2 or 3 shortcuts,
but power user needs
@conscioususer
Yes, I certainly think the old behavior was tons Smarter/better, but
this is an interface in constant evolution, so any one of the design
team developers may wake up one day with a better idea for the default
and get rid completely of the old behavior people like or are used to...
mockup:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JSR8IC77Ub4/TTRwD1iIvKI/BoM/yxWXeJR6ZCo/s1600
/unity_global_menu_idea_by_musl1m-d3400kk.png
http://musl1m.deviantart.com/art/Unity-Global-Menu-Idea-188117732
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this bug needs to be linked with upstream.
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Title:
Regression: Missing backgrounds and emblems in Nautilus 3.2.0/Ubuntu
11.10
To manage
After looking again at the mock ups of post #38 I would prefer to make
the combined title/menu bar more like it is now in global menu. Only
show the title in the bar an on mouseover show the menus only. Because
this is much more beautiful.
@Peter-Alexander
that would be the idea.
menus to show
@Matt, If global menus get disabled for non-maximized to fix this bug,
then what are the possible options or solutions?
I think we also need to point them out.
*Possible solutions for non-maximized windows:
[ ] Menu on panel for maximized; Normal menu for non-maximized
[ ] Menu on panel
** Description changed:
Please note: This bug report will now be used to track specific code
changes for reducing the risk of upgrading (see comment #14). Please
- stay on topic. Thank You.
+ stay on topic. We also have enough cases of problematic upgrades. Thank
+ You.
- ===Original bug
Wow, almost 100 people, very few bugs have this many people...
I wonder how many more are needed for someone in the design team to give
a little feedback of what can be done this upcoming cycle or when can we
expect this will be looked at.
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So this was added again to the wishlist?
this has been in the wishlist for 4 years now.
wishlist = discard
Mark Shuttleworth himself said update manager and software center would
be getting the remaining features from synaptic.
This should be set to at least medium.
you are forcing users to
Thanks very much, as i suffer from RSI it was not as big issue with
synaptic, as it has very good accessibility features, but now that
update manager and USC are going to substitute it in favor of getting
its features, i assume making update manager more accessible should
begin having more
@Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
Sorry this was not intentional.
Just wanted to refer to @Subharo that changing ubuntu to a different
base (like debian stable) may not solve the root problem.
But you are right, this is not the correct bug report to discuss this as
it can start drifting off topic. As
** Description changed:
+ Please note: This bug report will now be used to track specific code
+ changes for reducing the risk of upgrading (see comment #14). Please
+ stay on topic. Thank You.
+
+ ===Original bug report:
+
Typical bad upgrade user case (forum post):
and you can distinguish between IM, email or other...
sorry i meant Can't distinguish.
New users also find this pretty unintuitive compared to what they were
used to.
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Also seeing this problem.
you cant distinguish importance or priority.
and you can distinguish between IM, email or other...
for IM it should at least blink as it needs immediate action/attention
(unless you set status to busy).
i think this may also need an entry in the specs wiki:
glad to see this, it should really help
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Title:
top bar, integrated menu - when a application is first launched, the
integrated menu should be
Public bug reported:
Now that synaptic is gone from ubuntu, we need a more accessible way to
manage updates. Thus some important synaptic features need to be brought
back.
A) Sorting
Sorting was a very important accessibility feature in synaptic and is also
available in almost every other
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 878203 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878203
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 878203
Accesibility: Make update list sortable and add option to select/deselect
all like in other update managers or synaptic
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@Subharo Bhikkhu (subharo)
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry for your frustrations, as It
seems you encountered a great number of bugs, a bad upgrade and other
issues..
Scott James blogged about the state of Ubuntu, (check the link in the
bug report at the top).
And Matthew (mpt)'s
Just wanted to add, that linux is extremely flexible in alternatives
that can be offered to the user for fall-back (more so than any other OS
out there). Imagination can go wild here.
-The user wants a full snapshot of entire system? we have clonezilla and
other tools (even for creating live-cds
@Matthew (mpt)
Hi, it was recently brought to my attention from a few mac users, that
Osx 10.7 lion comes with a new and improved auto-backup tool prior to
upgrading.
The first thing the 10.7 installer tells you is to backup your system
and even if you do, it makes you a recovery partition.
@zombaya
yea, seems to be an unity 3d/compiz bug
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Title:
Invisible mouse in unity and gtk apps, but visible in firefox
To manage notifications
+1 for tooltips.
specially useful for the apps (ratings and short descriptions of the
icons you are viewing), files (file info, size and/or modified date;
bigger previews!) and music lenses (and many other upcoming ones)
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Hmm, there were also proposals of gnome-shell style dynamic workspaces or
better yet, something like firefox's panorama for ubuntu (mockup):
http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/03/how-about-firefox-4s-panorama-like.html
or KDE4's Activities, which are a lot more useful than just workspaces.
So
This user discovered that placing a window at the edge of the screen
allows the cursor to jump to the next screen. Without a window there,
the cursor does not jump. Jumping the cursor to the screen above or to
the left probably works because the Window and Unity panels are there at
the edge.
See
** Also affects: ubuntu
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Title:
Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). The Upgrade
** Description changed:
Typical bad upgrade user case (forum post):
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860359
Unusable upgrade pic (unbootable)
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=204320d=1318627364
[ubuntu] Thread for failed upgrades (huge list within 24 to
@Almufadado (almufadado)
the first part is ok, as this bug report is related to the menus/global.
for the other parts is best to have them in separate reports as they're
not very relevant here.
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only visible in firefox and terminal window...
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
Package: unity 4.22.0-0ubuntu3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic 3.0.4
Uname: Linux 3.0.0-12-generic i686
.tmp.unity.support.test.0:
ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu2
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Invisible mouse in unity and gtk apps, but visible in firefox
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@Fitoschido
That's exactly what i was talking about, they just file and answer their
own bugs.
And it seems they only discuss things in their mailing list, so one
would have to submit this bug there... and maybe if they feel like it
they might start discussing it.
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@Chauncellor
sorry about your inbox, but you wont be seeing any pertinent
information or any other info of interest about this bug any time soon.
Anyway I'll kindly follow your wishes so ... [/end-rant]
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sorry, but am not convinced the design team even looks at the bugs on
launchpad.
they just discuss things closed doors and then head straight to bugs
marked as [UIFe] or something weird like that.
am sure this bug will stay marked as incomplete for months or years like
many others around here...
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 859908 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/859908
seems to be similar to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/859908
marking as duplicate since the other one is more complete
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 859908
confirmed , but this happens to me at least 40% of the time i try to log
in.
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Title:
Regression: Unity not launched on boot (no
pic attached
** Attachment added: desktop-hangs.png
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/859908/+attachment/2514798/+files/desktop-hangs.png
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 868086 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/868086
Public bug reported:
failed
ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
Package: gnome-icon-theme-symbolic 3.2.0-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.19-generic 3.0.4
Uname: Linux
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 868086 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/868086
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Title:
package gnome-icon-theme-symbolic 3.2.0-0ubuntu1
This tool is very important for people with RSI (repetitive stress
injury)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury
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Title:
FFe:
@danillo
this bug is mostly for ATI owners, since on my intel hardware it was
running fine, but they should be related.
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Title:
Dash very slow
** Summary changed:
- Dash very slow with blur in Oneiric beta1
+ Dash very slow with blur in Oneiric beta1[ATI report]
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Title:
Dash very slow
if the solutions found in the mockups are implemented, ubuntu could also
use a smaller and better looking wing type panel:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/692921
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This should be fairly similar to how the trashcan icon on the launcher
works when you drag a file into it from the desktop.
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Title:
Launcher -
a workaround might be that PrtSc key always opens the screenshot tool
MAIN interface.
that way users can set the delay and various other options.
http://imagecdn.maketecheasier.com/2008/11/gnome-screenshot.jpg
http://www.myapitips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Screenshot-2.png
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i like the idea.
if you place the menu in the window bar like in these mockups:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788
and also have a small panel similar to a wingpanel
then you solve both this bug here and this bug:
Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
sorry on my last comment, the menu in bar mockups are here:
http://anaershadowynomaly.deviantart.com/gallery/29691776
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Title:
Allow for the
here is another wingpanel type / ubuntu mockup:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TRN4T4XDEiI/CgM/kXBETtXAykg/Me%20Menu_v0.7.jpg
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Title:
A complete fix to this bug would also require adding some features that
Ubuntu/APT are still missing as seen on this comparison:
http://0install.net/comparison.html
These should improve the situation for developers and users by leaps and
bounds. Making ubuntu the most competitive.
Maybe even
Public bug reported:
home folder icon does not get highlighted nor can you drag files into it
so they move , like the behavior you would expect for every other
folder.
The desired/expected behavior would be:
-user drags a file into the launcher (usually from the desktop)
-home folder (apart
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