Hey guys, I have been working around this Koolu unit since I have bought one
for the bedtime!
I just can't get the video to work properly. I have tried so many things but
all seems not to end up good.
I am running 8.04 Mythbuntu. I can't reach more that 1024 resolution. Moreover,
I can barely
xorg.conf
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This was copied to hardy-updates a while ago.
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-geode (Ubuntu Hardy)
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AFAIK the fix is already released for Hardy as well.
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Hi, this is a question non-related with the bug, i've the same thin
client (FIC ION A603) and It comes with a linux distribution but I want
to install Ubuntu and I don't know the boot's key, thanks.
PS: I was trying to contact you by e-mail but I couldn't find it,
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Hi Francisco,
To get into the BIOS press DEL at boot.
To get into the Boot Menu press Shift+F10 at boot.
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Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-build-clean-ltsp-boot-image-
that.html
Following this, solved my issue's. I can use the Linutop now with my
ltsp server.
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FYI, I have a Geode GX based machine (Dectop) and using the latest
xserver-xorg-video-geode driver from hardy-proposed (2.9.0-1ubuntu2.3) I
get pretty much the same result as I did just by specifying Driver amd
in xorg.conf before installing it. I get garbled video. Figured I'd
mention it since
To retrace my steps and verify that this indeed solves the Geode issues,
some people might find either of the two following methods suitable:
http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-make-geode-thin-clients-work-
on.html
http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-build-clean-ltsp-boot-image-
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I added hardy-proposed to my sources.list, ran an update and installed
the following three packages.
xserver-xorg-core
2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9-2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9.1
xserver-xorg-video-geode
2.8.0-7-2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1
xserver-xorg-video-ati
1:6.8.0-1
2.9.0-1ubuntu3 doesn't fix it for me, and neither does the earlier amd
(2.7.7.8-0ubuntu1) from Martin-Éric's PPA. Actually, I get the same
result regardless of the driver I specify in lts.conf with this geode
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I should specify that the new version does fix the problem of resolution
(vesa fallback) for me if I start the client from its own disk. The
problem that persists is that I get a blinking cursor on a black screen
instead of X when I start up a geode machine (lx800) as an ltsp client,
regardless
2.9.0-1ubuntu2 was just replaced by 2.9.0-1ubuntu3 to completely close
this issue. It's already available in my PPA and should soon be
uploaded to Hardy-proposed. For Intrepid, package 2.9.0-3 (pending
import from Debian/unstable) includes the same fixes.
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New version accepted into hardy-proposed.
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Fixed package uploaded to hardy-proposed, please test this and give
feedback here:
xserver-xorg-video-geode (2.9.0-1ubuntu2) hardy-proposed; urgency=low
.
* Added usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/geode.ids. (LP: #131675)
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Please try packages in my PPA for GEODE 2.9.0-1ubuntu2 which add support
for Debian/Ubuntu-specific X server files and test whether this fixes
the issues.
This package adds support for the Debian/Ubuntu-specific way of defining
supported PCI ID numbers for each driver. The additions I made add
Was uploaded to hardy-proposed yesterday by Ogra. Is there anything else
left to do to get this in?
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Hardy-proposed now has both a newer X server core and GEODE driver
available:
deb http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main universe
restricted #multiverse
deb-src http://ee.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main universe
restricted #multiverse
Please test and report
Thanks for getting this into Intrepid!
What are we missing to get this as an SRU into Hardy?
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Thanks for the review, Bryce. Ack from SRU team.
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I've reviewed the patch; here's the changes it implements:
* Version from 2.8.0 to 2.9.0
* Adds file geode_ddc.c to implement routines for querying monitor
capabilities via DDC
* Switches code to use DDC querying routines
* Drops old code that used VBE's EDID querying for monitor
Looks like 2.9.0-1 is now in Intrepid - setting to fix released.
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-geode (Ubuntu Intrepid)
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2.9.0 has been released by upstream and is being uploaded into Debian as
we speak. The upstream commit diff between 2.8.0 and 2.9.0 is attached
as evidence for the SRU. The only other changes to the upstream tarball
are the ChangeLog and files produced by autoreconf.
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I'm nominating this as an SRU for Hardy:
1. The bug is a failure to perform DDC polling on hardware with broken
BIOS environment. It affects a number of hardware products, including
some OEM hardware sold by Ubuntu-certified Canonical partners.
2. Upstream addressed this issue by replacing code
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This was a treasure to stumble upon :)
After much investigation, I tried David Bensimon's workaround from 21/4 and
finally managed to get my fit-PC
(http://www.fit-pc.com/new/specifications.html) to show a resolution greater
than 800x600 when running Hardy.
Unfortunately, I'm not able to test
Please note that upstream would be willing to release a new tarball with just
this libDDC patch and autoreconf, calling that 2.9.0.
Would this be acceptable as an SRU for 8.04.1?
The main advantage of upstream applying the patch and running autoreconf
for us is that we'd keep the diff to a
Hi,
Martin-Éric Racine [2008-05-02 8:29 -]:
Please note that upstream would be willing to release a new tarball
with just this libDDC patch and autoreconf, calling that 2.9.0.
Would this be acceptable as an SRU for 8.04.1?
Yes, it would be.
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geode_280_libddc.patch was applied to a pristine 2.8.0 tarball, then
./autogen.sh and make distcheck were ran. The result is
2.8.0+git20080424-1 which is currently sitting in Debian unstable. The
Debian source package can be built against Hardy using pbuilder.
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Unfortunately, getting a new major upstream release into Hardy won't be
possible - unless it fixes a security issue - whereas getting a point
release with only one small change for DDC implementation and an
autoreconf stands much better chances of getting accepted.
Figuring out what produces the
...which I just reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/xorg-server/+bug/220510
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Martin-Éric Racine [2008-04-22 5:17 -]:
Would there be any chance of getting such a 2.8.1 into Hardy as a
bug fixing release? Steve?
Not into hardy final any more most likely, but those kind of hardware
enabling fixes are absolutely appropriate for hardy-updates, so that
they can become
Yes, what I meant was via proposed-updates, so that it would be apt-
get'able from somewhere other than my PPA, before then.
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I would rather not make this part of a 2.8.1 release, and I would like
to stick to our existing roadmap of a 2.9.0 release on June 15. That
will give us time to do the other work that we had planned. I have not
been convinced that we are in a hurry here to make any distribution
based deadlines,
Martin-Éric, I'm trying to get the geode driver for testing on the Koolu
and I am unable to find it. With your PPA being the only active one I am
getting:
#apt-cache search geode
xserver-xorg-video-amd-dbg - X.org server -- AMD Geode GX/LX display driver
(debugging symbols)
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:52 PM, David Bensimon wrote:
Martin-Éric, I'm trying to get the geode driver for testing on the Koolu
and I am unable to find it. With your PPA being the only active one I am
getting:
#apt-cache search geode
xserver-xorg-video-amd-dbg - X.org server -- AMD Geode
Further discussion with Oliver Grawert, Julien Cristau and Timo Aaltonen
exposed the following situation:
1) the X server core in Hardy still doesn't know about manufacturer ID
0x1022 (Geode LX) and so it is unable to run without xorg.conf or with
an xorg.conf that omits the Drivers line. Fixing
The libDDC patch I previously used to produce 2.8.0-7ubuntu2, for
comparison.
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@Martin-Eric
Do you mean 2.8.0-7ubuntu2 as available in my PPA?
Yes. Do you think you can find what is causing the monitor flicker at login
that Jordan and I are encountering?
@Jordan
Attach your X log
Done.
Xorg -configure works
This did not work for me, since I edited xorg.conf directly.
Try fetching the test packages for a patched X server core from the same
PPA and see if it helps.
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I have tried reverting the xorg.conf to automatic configuration (i.e.
Configured Device) and tried running X -configure, Xorg-configure and
the assistant in recovery mode for Fixing X issues. even with the
updated X core (from the PPA) which you recommend, auto
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I can confirm that the xserver-xorg-video-amd 2.7.7.8-0ubuntu1 package
in Martin's PPA provides the libDDC patch.
This requires (as mentioned by Martin) explicit declaration of the amd
driver in Xorg.conf .
There's still something outstanding in the xserver-xorg-core as
mentioned by David
Confirmed resolution my current maximum is 1680x1050 (which is the max
on my monitor). I don't have hardware which can match the specs of the
VGA adapter (1920 x 1440). An improvement I noticed was that I do not
see any flicker. This driver seems to work well. Let's get automatic
detection into
I've tested on a linutop 2 box (similar hardware than the Koolu one), it
also works for me ('amd' needs to b specified in xorg.conf). The screen
detection worked perfectly for two screens (1280x1024 and 1680x1050).
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So, we've at least verified with two vendors utilizing an ION 603
variant (with an Award BIOS) that the libDDC patch accomplishes what we
intended: to bypass reliance on BIOS environment to get correct DDC
information.
We've also verified that the same works and introduces no regression on
Brian, does 2.8.0-7ubuntu2 work for you as well as your self-compiled
binaries?
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David, could you test one thing for me using a Koolu unit?
I need to compare whether auto-configuration performs correctly both
under PXE boot (with e.g. Edubuntu's LTSP implementation) and under
normal IDE boot from a locally installed Ubuntu distribution.
While I do not have access to an ION
PS: by contrast, 2.7.7.7 works equally well in LTSP and on a local disk,
on this ThinCan.
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With the help of Mart Raudsepp from Gentoo, we have backported the
libDDC patch to AMD 2.7.7.7 and called the result 2.7.7.8-0ubuntu1.
This one gets correctly detected inside LTSP too.
Test packages are in my PPA. Just install them in the chroot (making
sure to purge -amd and -geode first), then
Here's the version of Jordan's patch that I used to make the above
2.7.7.8-0ubuntu1 package.
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After further testing, it turns out that:
1) Whether I use -amd or -geode, they still need to be specified in
xorg.conf for the driver to be found by X. Otherwise, X reverts to
-vesa. I probably missed that earlier, simply because I've always used
an xorg.conf on workstations, to make sure I
After re-generating the Makefile.in and rebuilding, I finally got this
experimental patch to work on my ThinCan DBE62.
Updated packages are available in my Personal Package Archive at the URL
above, for those who want to test this and compare with the current
Hardy package. Among other things,
This is much better, but there are still a few issues:
1) After installing the geode driver (2.8.0-7) I am able to reach resolutions
up to 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (I can't get to 1920x1440 as advertised on
http://koolu.com/Koolu-WE-Appliance/Works-Everywhere-Appliance.html , but that
may be my
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:10 PM, David Bensimon
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This is much better, but there are still a few issues:
1) After installing the geode driver (2.8.0-7) I am able to reach
resolutions up to 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (I can't get to 1920x1440 as advertised on
1) Attach your X log and we can be sure that you are using the resolution that
the monitor reported. This is one of many problems with DDC/EDID. People
don't realize that there isn't a connection between what the display controller
can do, what the monitor can do, and what the monitor reports
Please test the packages in my PPA at:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/q-funk/ubuntu hardy main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/q-funk/ubuntu hardy main
Those contain an experimental patch from AMD that bypasses the BIOS
completely and instead uses the X.org libddc to directly poll the
display.
Unfortunately, this patch completely prevents X from launching on a
ThinCan DBE62 (LX800, General Software BIOS). We don't get any display
output whatsoever. Reverting to 2.8.0-7 (without patch) restores display
output and DDC support.
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We are not at all ready for this patch to go into production systems.
Please remove your test packages immediately - I'm afraid we have
officially lost the race to get into Hardy.
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Test packages won't go into Hardy. They are in a separate repository. It
just makes it easier for people to do A/B testing.
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Does the ThinCan also have the following line in Xorg.0.log?
(II) GEODE(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed
It seems that the BIOS VBE DDC on the Award BIOS is either non-
existent or broken, hence failing on the Koolu WE/ION A603..
Jordan Crouse mentioned about adding support for libDDC that would use
Hmm... Pretty weird! A few hours later and everything works as it
should, DDC and all, on this ThinCan, with either AMD 2.7.7.7-1 or GEODE
2.8.0-1 (available via my PPA).
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Confirmed on an Artec ThinCan DBE61 also.
This seems to be a regression from AMD 2.7.7.7, which worked fine.
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Bryce, I have tested it with your xorg.conf and the maximum resolution
is still 800x600 and the usplash is still garbled. I know for a fact
that this unit goes up to 1920 x 1440, yet with the current
configuration (8.04 Daily + xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.8.0-5) I can't
get resolution greater than
Martin-Eric, could this have anything to do with the pci rework in the
driver? I know that it was all properly #ifdef'd when I reviewed, but
perhaps something got missed? (Just a guess.)
Here's the pci id's for this hardware:
(--) PCI:*(0:1:1) Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Geode LX Video rev 0
Bryce, I have received numerous reports from other sources as well on
this issue. Their BIOS seems to be among the buggy ones that might
require workarounds in x86emu. It was already the case before the PCI
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Hardy 8.04 Daily (20080409) installed.
Usplash issue is still there but this time, the status bar ends up being
overplayed on top of itself and visually mixed up.
Installed
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.8.0-5_i386.deb
Forced geode driver installation to overwrite
Thanks Martin,
Is there anything further I could do to help this along? (I don't know
anything about x86emu internals and don't have the hardware on hand, but
if there is any packaging chores needed, I could assist.)
Bryce
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:11:38PM -, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
Installation error. To correct, ran
dpkg -i --force-all xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.8.0-5_i386.deb
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The installation error I've mentioned on bug 211385 as needing fixed
before we accept -geode into Ubuntu.
From the Xorg.9.log, it appears that GEODE is getting properly detected
and loaded:
(II) GEODE: Driver for AMD Geode Chipsets: Geode LX, Geode GX
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:01:1
(II)
David, can you please test using the attached xorg.conf?
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Just to be safe, could you specify which version of the AMD driver
you're using?
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It is falling back on the VESA driver instead of the xserver-xorg-video-
amd.
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** Description changed:
Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-amd
- VGA Controller is an AMD Geode LX
+ VGA Controller is an AMD Geode LX (should be using installed xserver-
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Importance: Undecided = High
Assignee: (unassigned) = Bryce Harrington (bryceharrington)
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