[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

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On 2007-02-04T19:04:19+00:00 Tobias-leupold wrote:

Hi :-)

I have a Canon LiDE 25 scanner, woking perfectly with sane-backends-1.0.17. 
After an upgrade to version 1.0.18 (Gentoo
release 1.0.18-r2), the scanner didn't work anymore; other people also 
experienced problems with other scanners (see
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-506227.html -- German).

sane-find-scanner lists the scanner anyway, but scanimage -L didn't work
anymore.

After a downgrade to version 1.0.17, everything works as expected again.

Greetings, Tobias

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:

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On 2007-02-05T12:52:25+00:00 Phosphan wrote:

I am not sure what I can do about this, but I will check the source
differences and sane CVS as soon as I find some time (which is quite a
problem at the moment).

About the forums thread:
Sorry, but sane-backends 1.0.18 has been in ~x86 since july 2006 and in x86 
since september. Since no developer has all the hardware I have to rely on user 
feedback. This is the first time I am told about such problems with .18.

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On 2007-02-05T13:04:55+00:00 Tobias-leupold wrote:

They just didn't report a bug, as the downgrade worked for them ;-) I
don't know if dev-libs/libusb-1.1.11 matters (as reported on the
forums), as just downgrading sane-backends worked for me. I also
reported this bug on the SANE bugtacker:
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=304426&group_id=30186&atid=410366

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On 2007-02-12T07:58:42+00:00 9-newsletter wrote:

Hi,

I have another possible solution to the problem:

My LiDE 25 worked again after removing the kernel-option "Device Drivers
- USB Support - USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup". The problem
appeared with gentoo-sources-2.6.19.

Other versions:
libusb 0.1.12
sane-backends 1.0.18-r2

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On 2007-04-04T00:39:47+00:00 lnxzilla wrote:

Same issue with my LiDE 30, however downgrading sane-backends didn't fix
it. Fixed after removing `USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup' as
suggested by  Achim Strobelt above. My kernel is 2.6.20.4, libusb
0.1.12.

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On 2007-07-01T17:10:30+00:00 Slava-f wrote:

I also have some problems with Mustek BearPaw 1200 when using sane-
backends-1.0.18. The obtained image looks overexposed - I suspect that
there are problems with calibration. Downgrading to sane-backends-1.0.17
solves this problem.

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On 2007-08-15T19:18:18+00:00 Václav Slavík wrote:

This helps:
http://www.nabble.com/USB-Problems-with-Ubuntu---workaround-t4260039.html

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On 2007-08-30T20:23:23+00:00 Hurikhan77+bgo wrote:

Same problem here with this hardware:

jupiter linux # lsusb
Bus 002 Device 017: ID 04a9:220d Canon, Inc. CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE 20

If you keep the device awake with

while true; do sleep 1; cat /dev/bus/usb/002/017; done > /dev/null
(replace 002 and 017 with your bus and device id from lsusb)

you can do a preview and a full scan in e.g. kooka, but usually only one
time. When it stops working, the scanning application has to be
restarted. Looks like the backend or libusb cannot keep the device awake
long enough.

Ideas for this found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/sane-backends/+bug/85488

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On 2008-04-03T13:44:46+00:00 Maris-gis wrote:

Unfortunately Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 7400c also is affected by this bug.
I tried sane-backends-1.0.19 and my scanner was not working at all. I 
recompiled kernel without USB suspend support and still no go. 
Downgraded to 1.0.17 and everything started to

[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-09-15 Thread brethes
** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu)
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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Jeremy Vies
I guess so.


Le mardi 03 août 2010 à 21:00 +, Clay Weber a écrit :
> Can we consider this bug closed?
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Dean Loros
Please close--has not been a problem for quite a while...

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread swiftnet
Yes


On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM, marvin duran 
wrote:

> yup!
>
> 
> La provocación por invocación de un adjetivo insulso. Sino he caído con
> besos, ¿caeré con provocaciones?
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> 2010/8/3 t2000kw <85...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:00:27 -, you wrote:
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> > >Can we consider this bug closed?
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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread marvin duran
yup!


La provocación por invocación de un adjetivo insulso. Sino he caído con
besos, ¿caeré con provocaciones?
http://www.marvinduran.com



2010/8/3 t2000kw <85...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:00:27 -, you wrote:
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> >Can we consider this bug closed?
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> Yes
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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread t2000kw
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:00:27 -, you wrote:

>Can we consider this bug closed?

Yes

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Clay Weber
** Changed in: xsane
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Paulo
yes.

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Peter Miller
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 21:00 +, Clay Weber wrote:
> Can we consider this bug closed?
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Clay Weber
Can we consider this bug closed?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2010-08-03 Thread Clay Weber
Can we consider this bug closed?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2009-08-15 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gutsy/linux-source-2.6.22

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2009-01-02 Thread fishor
This should work for permanent settings:

sudo echo "options usbcore autosuspend=-1" > /etc/modprobe.d/usb_suspend
after this us should reboot.

this is for temporary:

sudo su
echo "-1" > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend

after this you need replug you scanner.

-1 mean - disable autosuspend
2 mean - enable autosuspend with delay 2 seconds

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2009-01-02 Thread Joshia
I have the same problem on my Hardy (2.6.27-7-generic). My scanner
(UMAX, forgot the type) at home works perfectly without any hassles of
scanning any document.

But I'm now outside my hometown and I have to scan some pictures for my
homework. Here, there is an EPSON Perfection 660. Because no drivers
released for Windows Vista for this model, I have been trying to use my
hardy.

I just plugged it into one of my USB socket in my laptop. At first, it
was unable to access the scanner at all so I installed the firmware file
to "/usr/share/sane/snapscan" and input the firmware file location to
the config file in "/etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf".

Then I opened Xsane. It worked fine in a few seconds when I tried to
scan a book cover in Xsane, and in several seconds, Xsane was no longer
able to access my scanner. I restarted Xsane but now It didn't even able
to contact my scanner. Then I restarted my computer for several times
and it didn't work at all.

So, I googled around and tried to install scanbuttond: No luck. Using
other programs didn't give me any outcome to be able to access my
scanner. I have also tried to use the command-line method "scanimage"
and it produces the same error as in Xsane.

Please help me as I have to finish my work during next two weeks.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-04-28 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Debian)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-03-31 Thread Leann Ogasawara
This bug was marked "Fix Released" against the 2.6.22 Gutsy kernel.
Just adding a note that the 2.6.20 Feisty kernel task is being closed as
this does not qualify for a stable release update -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates .  If anyone is still
experiencing issues, please test against the latest Hardy Heron 8.04
Beta release and open a new bug report if the issue still exists:
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing.  Unfortunately, sifting through 450+
comments and 17 duplicate bug reports it not exactly easy on the
development teams trying to resolve any remaining outstanding issues.
Thanks.

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-02-09 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Debian)
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-02-02 Thread jengel
Since upgrading to Ubuntu 7.10 (kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) my Canon
N1240U works perfectly. No suspend issues, no scanning black pages.

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-01-31 Thread jack
well, they seem to exist to manage communications with partners, but i
expect you'd worked that out!

they have an internal web site, but after a lot of verbiage it doesn't
really say any more than that.

jack


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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2008-01-31 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-12-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-12-15 Thread Robert North
Ok, I've reported success using the autosuspend workaround in bug #88746.
(See following comment: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/188)
Now, should some of my hardware be blacklisted?
Is this now being done in kernel, or in udev rules?

I have also attached the lsusb -v output

** Attachment added: "lsusb-withnoautosuspend"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10914797/lsusb-withnoautosuspend

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-12-09 Thread Elias Humbolt
I don't have this device. You should get in contact with Seagate
support. They have investigated the problem.


On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 09:42 +, fishor wrote:
> 1. this is not a bug.
> 2. this report is used to collect information about usb devices which claim 
> to support usb-suspend but do not do it correctly. 
> 
> do you have this device?
> if yes, please report lsusb and demsg about it.
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-12-09 Thread fishor
1. this is not a bug.
2. this report is used to collect information about usb devices which claim to 
support usb-suspend but do not do it correctly. 

do you have this device?
if yes, please report lsusb and demsg about it.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-12-08 Thread Elias Humbolt
This one might actually be for the same reason:

Seagate snubs Linux
Latest drives show no visible means of support
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/06/seagate-snubs-linux

What is reported in this article is most likely also caused by this bug.
Maybe somebody starts to care now! While as seagate already pointed out,
it will not be them.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-11-23 Thread fishor
** Changed in: libusb (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Baltix)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-11-08 Thread dentament
there's another workaround wich worked for me before using scanbuttond:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3126808&postcount=33

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-10-28 Thread elias
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 02:13 +, huffy318 wrote:
> After upgrading to 7.10 Gutsy, I no longer need to run the kernel that
> had no suspend compiled in it.  My scanner is working fine.
> 
> After the initial post-upgrade restart, it did take awhile for the 1st
> preview to run after xsane was started.  If xsane was left running,
> subsequent previews were as fast as usual.
> 
> Now that I shutdown and restarted, the scanner works as expected.
> 
> Eric
> 

>From some bug report I got the impression, that this bug was actually
the reason for bug #88746. Is this the case? 

Can somebody with the proper knowledge please advice.

Elias

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-10-27 Thread huffy318
After upgrading to 7.10 Gutsy, I no longer need to run the kernel that
had no suspend compiled in it.  My scanner is working fine.

After the initial post-upgrade restart, it did take awhile for the 1st
preview to run after xsane was started.  If xsane was left running,
subsequent previews were as fast as usual.

Now that I shutdown and restarted, the scanner works as expected.

Eric

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-10-24 Thread elias
This bug would also benefit from resolving bug #3382.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-10-24 Thread elias
This bug would also benefit from resolving bug #3382.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-19 Thread Ben Collins
linux-source-2.6.22 (2.6.22-11.34) gutsy; urgency=low

  [Alan Stern]

  * USB: disable autosuspend by default for non-hubs
- LP: #85488

  [Ben Collins]

  * ubuntu: Enable LEDS_TRIGGERS and related options
- Needed for iwlwifi
  * ubuntu: Add real ABI files for virtual flavour
  * ubuntu: Re-enable missing CONFIG_SERPENT for hppa64
- Noticed by Lamont
  * ubuntu: Add linux-headers postinst to handle hooks
- LP: #125816
  * ubuntu: Add support for /etc/kernel/headers_postinst.d/ to
headers-postinst
- LP: #120049
  * cell: Add binary-custom flavour "cell" to support ps3

  [Mattia Dongili]

  * sony-laptop: restore the last user requested brightness level on
resume.
- LP: #117331

  [Tejun Heo]

  * ata_piix: fix suspend/resume for some TOSHIBA laptops
- LP: #139045
  * PCI: export __pci_reenable_device()
- needed for ata_piix change

  [Tim Gardner]

  * Enable Sierra Wireless MC8775 0x6813
- LP: #131167

  [Zhang Rui]

  * ACPI: work around duplicate name "VID" problem on T61
- Noted by mjg59

 -- Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:31:47 -0400

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-18 Thread Brian Murray
Sistofe - Thanks for tracking down the upstream kernel commit.  This
patch has been committed to the Gutsy kernel tree.  You can view it at
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-
gutsy.git;a=commit;h=e818eec4b546562fb1215a8756805eadb0c390c2 .

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-16 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
It looks like regularly blacklisting USB devices in the kernel will soon
be at an end. According to this git commit
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/gregkh/usb-2.6.git;a=commit;h=7d2c592609a7da950b458403f1936d382f38ff9c
USB autosuspend will be disabled for everything bar USB hubs. I suspect
those devices (or perhaps categories of devices) that do suspend can
probably be dealt with by HAL and perhaps put into some sort of
whitelist. Some of the discussion leading up to the change can be read
on http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Whitelists_and_Blacklists (which mentions
that nearly 2/3rds of all printers can't cope with USB autosuspend).

Will this change be backported to Ubuntu Gutsy?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-16 Thread Andreas Schallenberg
Please add LiDE 50 to quirks.c, doing it manually and recompiling
kernel made the scanner work with SUSE 10.3 Beta 3:

04a9:2213 Canon, Inc. LiDE 50/LiDE 35

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-09 Thread fishor
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OK. I made it.
See:
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storage driver.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-09 Thread Oliver Neukum
@fishor:

sorry I misunderstood you. Nevertheless, the correct handling in your case is 
to issue a command to spin down the disk in the suspend() method of the storage 
driver. It needs to be discussed and tested whether this can be done for all 
devices, or your device needs a new kind of quirk.
Could you report your bug to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-08 Thread David Planella
Slightly off-topic, but maybe worth mentioning:

I've noticed that if you've got a Feisty kernel (2.6.20-16-generic) and
you add the line

options usbcore autosuspend=0

to /etc/modprobe.d/usb-core-options, as was suggested on comment #318
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/85488/comments/318) not only will it have no effect -as
the autosuspend option was only added in later kernel versions-, but
also will stop your USB sticks from mounting.

So, if you are experiencing this side effect on Feisty, simply remove
the above mentioned line from /etc/modprobe.d/usb-core-options, then run
'sudo update-initramfs -u' and reboot.

The effect of having that option enabled on my Feisty system was, as
mentioned, that my USB stick would not automount (or be recognised at
all), and the output of 'dmesg | grep usb' showing the following:

Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.077629] usbcore: Unknown parameter 
`autosuspend'
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079045] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_pci_suspend
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079180] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_resume_root_hub
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079262] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_pci_probe
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079426] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_check_bandwidth
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079574] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_disabled
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079661] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_release_bandwidth
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.079980] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_claim_bandwidth
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.080183] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_pci_resume
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.080372] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_giveback_urb
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.080464] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_poll_rh_status
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.080628] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_hcd_pci_remove
Sep  7 15:48:20 microstar kernel: [   45.080723] uhci_hcd: Unknown symbol 
usb_root_hub_lost_power

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-06 Thread Oliver Neukum
That is not a kernel bug. You can set a default timeout for autosuspend
in the module parameters of usbcore.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-09-06 Thread fishor
one more divice with brocken usb_autosuspend:
040d:6204 VIA Technologies, Inc.  ( USB->IDE Adapter)
autosuspend will poweroff the harddrive attachet to this adapter, ewery time if 
there is no acces ... it is still posible use this device and it will be 
properly enabled agene if some thing trying to acces it agene. But it is not OK 
if it doing it ewery 10 seconds, i think after two weeks or some more it will 
be not workable.

** Attachment added: "lsusb -v"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9154880/lsusb

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-29 Thread elias
Since again, I had to attach the same lspci file to several bugs, I want
to make all devs and bug fixers aware of this bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/3382

I find it is absolutely necessary to be able to attach hardware profiles
to launchpad user accounts. I would then simply say, this happens on
Feisty on my machine XY and you guys could immediately access the right
record in the HW DB. Now you have to over and over again request us to
send lspci outputs, lshw outputs, 

Isn't it the purpose of programming to relieve us from things that we
have to do over and over again in exactly the same way? Isn't that what
computers are for, to do exactly these stupid always the same
operations?

Please use your voice as bug fixers, as the people most annoyed by this,
to get canonical to implement such a feature in launchpad!

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-27 Thread Brian Murray
The autosuspend sysfs option is already in the Gutsy kernel.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-27 Thread Michael
I have a USB Graphical LCD from Alphacool that doesn't work with USB_SUSPEND.
After a kernel-recompile with 'CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=n' the display works fine!

lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 014: ID 060c:04eb EEH Datalink GmbH

Please add this to the quirks.c !!! Thanks.

Will autosuspend (sysfs option) be integrated in the new gutsy kernel?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-24 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Debian)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-22 Thread Michael Chang
At the time of writing, gutsy does not appear to contain the fixes from
Debian's "sane-backends", unless the fix was merged in separate from the
entire new version...

Debian: 1.0.19~cvs20070730-1
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/sane-backends
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/sane-backends/sane-backends_1.0.19~cvs20070730-1/changelog

Ubuntu: 1.0.19~cvs20070505-3ubuntu1
http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/source/sane-backends
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/sane-backends/sane-backends_1.0.19~cvs20070505-3ubuntu1/changelog

Until this occurs, the only way that this will be "fixed" is if the
kernel has been fixed for your device. Did you try Tribe 3? According to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/85488/comments/351 ,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/85488/comments/380 , and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/85488/comments/384 , it appears the "quirk listing" for
your device _should_ have made it into the 2.6.22-9.19 kernel, and it
appears also to be in the latest git, but my Gutsy machine says that the
latest (again, at the time of writing) is 2.6.22-10.33, so I'm not 100%
sure about other changes between that last message and now.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-22 Thread Jean Brieussel
Hello everybody,
on 2007-07-16, I wrote :
"I have been using fishor's kernel since the beginning of may 2007 and it works 
perfectly !
Thank you again, fishor !
I have just tried the latest Gutsy Gibbon LiveCD : my scanner did not work at 
all...
Then I have tried what fishor proposed on 2007-07-13 :
"... You should test every usb-device you have.
to disable autosuspend you should do:
echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
and only _after_ this attach you device..."
And it has worked nicely for me as well !
My scanner is :
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04b8:0114 Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 660"

I have just tried  now Gutsy Tribe 4LiveCD  andthe Daily Build LiveCD 
2007-08-22 .  
They did not work for my scanner !!!
I tried the above tweak "echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend", 
etc...
It did not work this time ... Oups !!!
Back to square one 
Or did I miss anything ?
Worrying, isn't it ?
Jean

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-18 Thread Ronny D
Poooh... (sigh...) Let me, if necessary, sort of 'warn' you that non-
techs who need computer as a tool for their non-tech work do not like to
upgrade (is not the same as automatic update!) much nor frequently and
that they therefore do not consider such (that they do not like to
upgrade the whole computer system again and again new for new over and
over again ) a "sin" at all, but on the contrary. I mean: it causes much
restlessness for a non-tech who needs computer for higly intensely
utmost concentration needed non-tech work to upgrade like a tech whose
work is tech (in computer). It is but nice to see a bit more of the
computersystem adding for pc a non-usb suspend once or twice..., but
then after that: really wears me out totally, that is: I AM WORN OUT.
Thanks for all the marvellous support of all those techs for kernel
alternatives though... and thanks for finding the cause why the scanner
and possibly other essential usb devices on pc mode did not and/or would
not work when usb-suspend is on in the kernel. But w... i need to do
MY work, can i? ;-) Thanks... Well..., this is but some sort of a
"warning" to please especially with current Ubuntu think of all the non-
tech people who need to perform non-tech work with their computer that
already is costing them all of their concentration... I mean: they too
have to make a living "you know". c.u.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-16 Thread Andrej
my lsusb for scanner:
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1606:0060 Umax [hex] Astra 3400U

Actually I'm using 2.6.20 and gentoo (hope you don't mind to participate in 
this ubuntu thread, but it is the largest thread about this bug on the net). 
2.6.20 don't support those power level suspend command as 2.6.22, so it was 
necessary to patch and compile it again.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-16 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Andrej:
Just for the record it's probably worth posting your device's lsusb output. If 
you are testing Gutsy (with its 2.6.22 kernel) it might have also been able to 
workaround the problem without recompiling your kernel as mentioned in 
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/85488/comments/363
 .

As also mentioned elsewhere, it looks like sane is shipping udev scripts
to unconditionally disable autosuspend for all scanners so if/once that
later version of sane goes in it can be argued there is no point
blacklisting scanners (will the existing scanners be removed?)...

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-15 Thread Andrej
Thanks for posting link to Kernel mailing list.

I patched hub.c with this patch http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/2/438, and
problem went away.
Any other solution mention it this thread didn't helped.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-15 Thread Michael Chang
@Sitsofe: It appears that in a later message, the patch was rejected.
Those messages are from earlier this month.

That said, following the thread leads to this message, which I find somewhat 
amusing:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/3/81
Funny how someone said that "the chances are no distribution is going to ship 
with CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND enabled" -- when Feisty did precisely that, months ago!

However, it is good to see that lkml seems to have developed a bit of a routine 
for dealing with most USB quirks, assuming the new sane-backends in gutsy 
doesn't fix your problem. (Yes, they are still using the blacklist.) Provided 
you are willing to compile small patches into a kernel and report what level of 
quirkiness the device needs to be accommodated for, similar to what this user 
did, your quirky device can now be added to the upstream code in a matter of 
hours! :) (Of course, figuring out how to do the compile takes a bit of work...)
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/14/131

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-15 Thread Hans van Esdonk
Andrej,

I have the same problem with my BenQ (=Acer) scanner.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-
backends/+bug/85488/comments/40

works for me, but not always..

Sometimes it looks if nothing happens and then, after a while (5-10 
minutes) the scanner starts!!! I'm using xsane scanner program.

Good luck

Hans


Andrej schreef:
> I also have problem with my umax astra net ia101 (using plustek driver).
> Problems started when I compiled that ($/#&# usb-suspend into kernel
> 2.6.20.  I kept my old one, but now it doesn't matter with which I boot,
> with both my scanner doesn't work.
>
> Problem was when scanning, lamp is turned off, so the picture was black
> and scanner head did NOT park (it stoped when returning back).  These
> symptoms only showed in xsane and openoffice gui and not with scanimage.
>
> Today I downloaded and installed sane-backends from cvs, but this didn't 
> entirely fixed my problem.
> Now lamp is on and scanned picture is fine, but scanner head still doesn't 
> return, it still stops in the middle of parking.
>
> Does anybody have clue, why I can't scan normally with my old kernel,
> without usb-suspend? This question bother me the most.
>
>

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-15 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
This hit the Linux Kernel Mailing list as can be seen here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/2/450
I have no idea why this was not mentioned in this bug report though (I only 
found out when browsing a different bug report). I wish someone had told me 
about this at the time as I may have wound up wasting my time and words in a 
meaningless fashion if the suggested change takes place...

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-14 Thread Andrej
I also have problem with my umax astra net ia101 (using plustek driver).
Problems started when I compiled that ($/#&# usb-suspend into kernel
2.6.20.  I kept my old one, but now it doesn't matter with which I boot,
with both my scanner doesn't work.

Problem was when scanning, lamp is turned off, so the picture was black
and scanner head did NOT park (it stoped when returning back).  These
symptoms only showed in xsane and openoffice gui and not with scanimage.

Today I downloaded and installed sane-backends from cvs, but this didn't 
entirely fixed my problem.
Now lamp is on and scanned picture is fine, but scanner head still doesn't 
return, it still stops in the middle of parking.

Does anybody have clue, why I can't scan normally with my old kernel,
without usb-suspend? This question bother me the most.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-14 Thread Max
I have the problem with my N670U.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
@llimaa

I got this from the support team lead:

>From a support position we'd do the following for a paid customer

1.  Escalate the bug to the distro team
At the very least they'd look into the issue and make a firm decision on
whether it was possible to resolve and if so how it would be resolved
(this release or a future one). This gives you certainty of response.

2.  Provide a workaround
If we were unable to resolve it in the current release (seems likely)
then we'd work with the customer on a workaround.  This gives you a
best-practise workaround.

We've successfully avoided supporting customers with kernel recompiles
so far! For issues that can't be resolved in the current release we
sometimes provide new compiled kernels to them.

We would provide assistance to a customer on how to recompile their
kernel if there was no other way.  In order to avoid errant issues we'd
ask them to use our standard kernel when reporting any future issues (so
if they saw a particular problem and it existed under our standard
kernel we'd consider that valid).

>From a support perspective regressions are a problem.  They particularly
adversely effect user experience (in my opinion). But, I think it's more
valid for LTS releases than the normal six month releases.  

I think for the normal releases we value features; for the LTS we value
certainty. That dictates the approach to regressions.

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-11 Thread Robert Hutton
Hi Mum,

Nothing I can do at the moment for your scanner, but confirmation below that
the next version 'Gutsy Gibbon' fixes the scanner issue.  It's due out in 4
months but we can probably upgrade in around 2 months (for the pre-release
version).  It's available right now but it could be a bit ropey upgrading at
this point (it's not ready yet).

Love,

Robert

On 11/08/07, Clay Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The sane devs "fixed" this in their latest cvs development versions by
> using a similar workaround to what the kernel devs are doing. they have
> just set up a new udev rule for each scanner to disable suspend for that
> device when it is plugged in, so it is not really all that different
> from the blacklist in the kernel. And if I am not mistaken (and it would
> be nice if I were), this ability to disable it this way needs the newer
> kernels so the latest sane snapshot would not work in Feisty.
>
> If scanning is mission-critical, then as is suggested, using the LTS
> release would be the best action until Gutsy is released.
>
> I used the scanbutton daemon in Feisty to successfully scan all my
> photos to my hard drive, and it is now working normally in Gutsy (LiDE
> 25 scanner)
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2007-08-11 Thread Clay Weber
The sane devs "fixed" this in their latest cvs development versions by
using a similar workaround to what the kernel devs are doing. they have
just set up a new udev rule for each scanner to disable suspend for that
device when it is plugged in, so it is not really all that different
from the blacklist in the kernel. And if I am not mistaken (and it would
be nice if I were), this ability to disable it this way needs the newer
kernels so the latest sane snapshot would not work in Feisty.

If scanning is mission-critical, then as is suggested, using the LTS
release would be the best action until Gutsy is released.

I used the scanbutton daemon in Feisty to successfully scan all my
photos to my hard drive, and it is now working normally in Gutsy (LiDE
25 scanner)

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-11 Thread llimaa
@Mark Shuttleworth

Hello Mark what would Canonical do, if a paying customer call and complain that 
his scanner is not working because of this bug?
Can you explain us the "real" advantage of being a support (paying) customer vs 
a community (not paying) customer using this bug as example?

Thank you advance
llimaa

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-11 Thread llimaa
Debian just fixed it, with the lastest libssane!
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/sane-backends/sane-backends_1.0.19~cvs20070730-1/changelog

 sane-backends  (1.0.19~cvs20070730-1) unstable; urgency=low

   * New CVS snapshot.
 + Workaround for CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND (closes: #434276).
   * debian/control, debian/rules:
 + Make libsane depend on makedev | udev on Linux (closes: #428220).
   * debian/libsane.postinst:
 + Change MAKEDEV invocation to invoke /dev/MAKEDEV instead of 
/sbin/MAKEDEV.
   * debian/control:
 + Do not {build-,}depend on libusb-dev nor libieee1284-dev on hurd-i386
   (closes: #434575).
 + Use ${binary:Version} instead of ${Source-Version}.
   * debian/rules:
 + Do not ignore make distclean errors.
   * debian/patches/30_sanei_scsi_sg_ioctl.dpatch:
 + Removed; merged upstream.


Have fun, maybe the package works on ubuntu. too.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Michael Chang
@t2000kw: If that is your decision, then by all means. Ubuntu is not for
everyone (yet). However, I wouldn't be surprised if Canonical's support
teams might have been able to provide you a custom workaround (if
necessary) if you had bought the right kind of SLA, similar to how other
companies deal with these sorts of bug reports. On the flip side -- what
must-have features could Feisty possibly have had for you such that you
couldn't continue using Edgy?

>From what I can tell, Gutsy Tribe 4 seems to be well on its way to
fixing this issue, although it currently has its own breakage in other
areas.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
@t2000kw

I know you are worried about the 'usb suspend' issue and that you are
responsible for your company, but the way some people talk here, is the
tone and attitude of geeks among eachother and they are usually very
perfectionist, is my experience, but also i as Linux-user am
perfectionist in the computersystem i want to use, and that is why i
trust those geeks in their skills and i know they are working on the
issue. That is why i stick to Feisty. I know my printer must work...
because i know someone with exactly the same distro as i have and
exactly the same printer and the printer works fine. Linux is an ongoing
project and always geeks around to make it better but meanwhile they can
seem to be very competitive, but that is only the attitude that goes
with perfectionism in programming and so on, because they know Linux is
the best or that in Linux the best is possible. Just hire some true
geeks for your company, invest a little in them and i suppose you will
be fine and in the long run you could not get that quality for the same
money ever.  And if it is not the one Linux distro, then it is the
other. Nowadays it all is clickclack mouse and knowing commandline is
but extra, it is not necessary for an ordinary user but just another
extra option, it can be really useful and efficient to know and if you
can do both to some extent any Linux is extremely flexible, also for an
ordinary user (non root). Each distro you can make look like you want it
to look like. Just hire in the best geeks to do that for you, they know
how to do it. They can even make Ubuntu look like Apple. Development of
Linux is principally ongoing, it is multitasking until in most refined
multitasking, all level, and this is my experience and i trust Linux
will just only become even better all the time.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
@t2000kw
"I had made a recommendation to my company that we investigate replacing at 
least sme of our PC operating systems with Linux, but because of watching this 
problem and seeing how the problem isn't addressed immediately, I won't 
recommend Ubuntu if they decide to switch some of the computers over to Linux. 
I don't think all 10,000+ PCs at PACCAR (worldwide) would be able to use a 
different (non-Windows) OS, but many of them could definitely be switched over."


No! You really must try it out! Ubuntu Feisty Fawn is by the way Linux but not 
all Linux is Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. Yet what are you talking about? This is about 
a scanner... and now... with scanbuttond it all works perfect and nobody is 
bothered. You must mix up, if i am not mistaken, the perfectionist attitude of 
the true geeks who want to program the best possible and they can in Linux. I 
can guarantee you this. Please do not judge the all of "Linux" because of this 
very small trivial issue; the people who were complaining were people used to 
the POWER of Linux and then 'we' do not accept such a little flaw..., but you 
see: once scanbuttond for to scan everyone was happy! Please do not mix up the 
perfectionist attitude of the true programming talented geeks and see this 
little scanner issue in proportion. 


Linux is still the best; you just only have to choose wisely the distro for 
what you need. Most people here work with standalone machines, i suppose, but 
you want a whole OS for a whole company, i suppose; that is different stuff and 
you must know that people really understanding how to configure OS Linux will 
not mistakes and will not leave obstructions in the system but correct it. 
Really, i feel you do not yet fully grasp the true power of the Open Source. 
Please so do not judge / misjudge the all of Linux on this then but only 
trivial scanbuttond issue in just one distro of Linuxkernel. 


And anyway: see how happy i am with this scanbuttond "bug solved" for my 
scanner! Also that is the power of Linux.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
P.S., thanks for kernel info... not rewrite but recompile, just in case.
But for now i do no more feel that need. Thank you all for your
information!

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
People!


I... but made a very little mistake... and misjudged some little thing...  with 
my brandnew scanner... and i want to say for correction: 'scanbuttond' WORKS... 
it is true... IT WORKS PERFECT in my Canon Lide 25 in Ubuntu 7.04 (no laptop) 
Feisty!


problem solved! the bug is gone! 

MY SCANNER IS WORKING... ! 
THANK YOU SO MUCH

but scanbuttond really works!

I am happy! (Now i hope to get my printer to work too..., i at least
have hope for this now)

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread elias
sitsofe: 
I'll go ahead and try the gusty live cd.
I have attached my lshw output to #bug 88746: 
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8286612/lshw.txt

To make bug fixing easier I strongly vote for implementation of a malone 
feature as outlayed here: #bug 3382
I think this could be a great help for bug fixers and bug files alike.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread t2000kw
You don't want to re-write the kernel, you want to recompile it, so if
you're searching for directions, keep that in mind or you won't find the
information you want.

The information you need, except for finding the USB option to disable
it, is here:

http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu

I wasn't successful in getting the kernel to work after compiling it,
and the help I got in the forums was contradictory, but you can look
through the directions and see if it's something you want to try to
tackle (I gave up on the idea and decided to use the work-around and
wait for Gutsy). I did use Fishor's kernel but it didn't work for me and
I had to remove the GRUB menu listing for it. That doesn't mean it's
defective, it's just compiled for a computer different enough that it
won't work on mine (might be an AMD-Intel thing).

If you do recompile your kernel (or use someone else's kernel), you'll
want to lock your kernel down so it doesn't get updated in the normal
updating process.

Another option is to use a distribution that fixes problems instead of
requiring their users to wait. Some of the others were quick to address
this problem in the Linux kernel. There are distributions that are
Ubuntu based now, like Linux Mint (don't know if it has this problem,
though). http://linuxmint.com/

I had made a recommendation to my company that we investigate replacing
at least sme of our PC operating systems with Linux, but because of
watching this problem and seeing how the problem isn't addressed
immediately, I won't recommend Ubuntu if they decide to switch some of
the computers over to Linux. I don't think all 10,000+ PCs at PACCAR
(worldwide) would be able to use a different (non-Windows) OS, but many
of them could definitely be switched over.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
O..., maybe best is i learn somehow to rewrite the kernel myself, just
take out that usb suspend; i suppose here is nobody around to teach me
that.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-10 Thread Ronny D
I will try to download kernel of Fishor...; if all goes wrong i may not
be able to come back here to post, if it goes well, i could post
results, hopefully positive.

I will execute this:

sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386.deb

though i don't like this:
if you can't start with this kernel. chose your old kernel in boot-maneger. 
It's confusing me. 

so i do in xterm:
sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386.deb
now

"bye"

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-09 Thread Ronny D
Please specify what command i need to execute, exactly, to disable 'usb
suspend' "bug feature" in my Feisty Fawn 7.04 desktop (i am a non-geek),
so i can see whether my usb-printer works at all or not (although
perfectly detected) and so whether else it maybe is some fault in the
Samsung ML1610 series and i can use the warranty card, although i know
the particular printer must ("theoretically"?) work on Feisty; also i
then could see whether i can have positive scan results then too. I have
these tools brandnew for more than one week now... and have not been
able to see them work at all, i was busy finding out... what was wrong
(while being non-geek). See my posts above... (sorry for typos)

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-09 Thread Ronny D
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-09 Thread Ronny D
I am not a geek. What is this:

root  1935  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   00:35   0:00
[ksuspend_usbd]

Is that "the bug"?

(and possibly responsible for either my brandnew scanner nor my brandnew
printer functioning though detected perfectly?)

If i can have root access somehow in Feisty 7.04 desktop version, would
it be solved for me (so i can scan and print with my usb-attached
devices?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-09 Thread Ronny D
Please test in Feisty Fawn kernel 262016 desktop (no laptop):

usb canon lide 25 together with usb samsung laserprinter ML-1610
(both usb 1.1)

scanner is there, xsane finds device immediately
printer when added with system, administration, printers is detected 
immediately and perfectly full name of the printer at USB#1, all fine... pick 
driver ML1610 from the list... 

then what?

(black screen story, then with scanbuttond white screen with "vertical stripes 
computer code in vague colour") ()
printer: red light on "On Line / Error"... (no other light...) but when taking 
the electricitiy cable (not the usb cable!) of the printer out, the red "error" 
light goes out... and the printer is no more seen in lsusb

all is brand new bought stuff

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-08 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Mark (azovap002):
I apologise if you thought I was referring to Feisty with a 2.6.20 kernel. I 
have not tested this set up and nor will I due to time constraints. The only 
thing that I can ask you to do is to try a Gutsy LiveCD and see if the problem 
with your scanner remains. As for the firmware issues... I would be surprised 
if our firmware were different - can you indicate how to find out what version 
of the firmware I am running and can you post the version of firmware your 
scanner is running? I will try and sit down and restest the Gutsy LiveCD USB 
flash drive support with the scanner plugged into a laptop but this these tests 
are becoming torturous in their complexity. The only way for you to know for 
sure is to test with a recent Gutsy LiveCD...

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-03 Thread Michael Chang
@Mark: Sitsofe is testing with the *Gusty* (you could say "alpha", "next
version" or "testing") kernels, trying his best to ensure that this
problem *does not affect the next release*. Whether it is worthwhile or
not, at least he is TRYING to help fix the problem.

If you would like to contact Canon, you are free to do so and report
back with the results. If they respond with valuable information (sans
NDA) then there should be no reason why that information could not also
be integrated into later bug fixes.

(Fortunately or unfortunately, the development model here seems to be
that fixes can only go into the next version unless it's a security fix.
Perhaps that needs to be changed, but that is a discussion for another
(wishlist priority) bug report.)

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-08-03 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
A set of USB speakers were also fine even after I killed off gdm, went
to a terminal, used asoundconf to change the default sound card and then
speaker-test . lsusb: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0672:1041 Labtec, Inc.
LCS1040 Speaker System.

I will need a laptop to test USB and HP printers and that might take
some time...

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-30 Thread Oliver Neukum
@Amit

git://www.kernel.org/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/usb-2.6.git

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-29 Thread Clay Weber
well, the sane developers seem to be working on this as well:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2007-July/019680.html

quoted:
> Hi,
>
> CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND, a Linux kernel option that makes the USB layer
> automatically put USB devices to suspend state when they're not in
> use, has exposed a number of bugs in pretty much all the USB
> scanners.
>
> Upon being suspended, the scanners will usually do an unplug/plug
> cycle instead of going into the suspended state - what really happens
> in most cases is that the scanner resets himself, loosing its settings
> and sometimes its firmware. Some scanners may react differently,
> exposing more hardware bugs (eg. their USB interface may crash).
>
> Starting with Linux 2.6.22, two things have happened:
>  - a blacklist for the autosuspend feature, in which a lot of scanners
> are being added, mainly by Oliver Neukum from what I've seen, has been
> added. As of 2.6.22, the blacklist only has 2 or 3 entries IIRC, and
> is already greatly expanded in Greg KH's git tree - so this will make
> it into 2.6.23. This blacklist alone is obviously not going to cut it;
> we've got rid of the scanner kernel module because it was painful to
> keep it up to date and to update it on user's machine every time we
> needed to add a USB ID. This blacklist is just the same thing.
>
>  - a sysfs attribute has been added to USB devices that allows turning
> off the USB autosuspend feature on a per-device basis. This attribute
> can be found under /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/level.
>
>
> By doing echo on > /sys/bus/usb/devices//power/level, it is
> possible to disable the USB autosuspend feature (and wake the scanner
> up if it's suspended).
>
> By doing echo suspend > /sys/bus/usb/devices//power/level,
> it is possible to force a device into suspend mode (and it won't be
> waken up automatically).
>
> By doing echo auto > /sys/bus/usb/devices//power/level, the
> default behaviour of automatically suspending the device can be
> restored.
>
>
> So, as of a few minutes ago, the udev rules generated by sane-desc
> include a new RUN rule that will disable the USB autosuspend feature
> for all the scanners we know.
>
>
> That's the end of "black scans" as long as you run a kernel >= 2.6.22
> and this sysfs interface doesn't change :-)
>
> Have fun,
>
> JB.


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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-29 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Mark:
Various USB fixes and workarounds appear to have gone into kernels later than 
2.6.20. While recompiling it may have fixed this issue in the past you _may_ 
find that when using a LiveCD the problem no longer exists in Gutsy. If you can 
test a Gutsy LiveCD (several people above have said they can't because the CD 
doesn't boot) then please do so. I will try and retest on this week but time is 
short (I haven't even retested the Snapscan I said I would yet). The good news 
is that in Gutsy and later kernels one will be able to turn USB autosuspend off 
from userland without having to recompile the kernel using the aforementioned 
steps, which should make workarounds easier to enact.

As for the "ABI breakages"... I suspect there may be a better place to
report your unhappiness about this (although I'm not 100% sure I
categorise this as an ABI breakage, rather it is a regression) and the
current kernel numbering scheme. Few people will see a comment here and
as with all comments it is critical that the comment be aired in the
right forum if the intent is for it to be acted upon.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-29 Thread t2000kw
I even tried to compile the kernel for my machine, following
instructions in a Ubuntu forum post on "how to do it" and it didn't
work. Turns out when I sought out help in a new post that there was
disagreement on some items in the how to post, something about a symlink
and where to put it, that the advice given was obsolete, etc. I've done
it before, way back about 7 years ago, with Caldera and SuSE and even
fiddled with framebuffers to force support for a laptop LCD screen. I'm
not supre knowledgable, but I pieced together the information to figure
out how to do it all and then posted a step by step procedure on how to
get the LCD panel supported in Linux for the Dell Inspiron 7000 so
others wouldn't have to piece the information together from various
sources. But I am not knowledgeable enough to compile a kernel without
step by step directions to follow. (And fortunately, my video devices
don't require tinkering with Linux to get them to work now.)

But agree that this should have been fixed by now. Or fork another
flavor of Ubuntu for laptops only with the understanding that scanners
and some other USB devices might not work. It would be nice to have a
"switch" of some sort to enable this feature on the fly or for the next
reboot to please everyone if it can't be fixed soon.

I think it's going to be fixed in Gutsy, and I commend those behind the
fix. The current alpha didn't fix it for me, though, so it's still a
future fix.

I don't see why a generic kernel can't be created and pushed through
updates to fix Feisty and just let the laptop users, probably the
minority of people (though I might be putting it on mine soon again now
that Wine has been changed and might work with it now), let them get a
second battery or use the power adapter. I bought two batteries when I
bought mine to give me 5 hours or more of use away from a power outlet.

Two questions I have about the power saving feature for laptops:

1. Does it save power when no devices are connected?
2. How much of an improvement in battery life are we talking about with this 
feature/bug?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-29 Thread jack

i've been following this thread for some time now with a mood of increasing 
depression...

a year ago i was running 6.06 (kubuntu). it was my first experience of
ubuntu and i was pretty happy. everything was working ok.

i failed to get 6.10 to install. i must have tried every option there
was, but i couldn't do it. so i stuck with 6.06.

i got a new computer at the same time that 7.04 came out. on it went!
and, fantastic, i could suspend it, something i could never do with
6.06.

well, a month or so later there was an update to KDE, which i installed
using Adept. the next time i started the computer, no KDE at all.

after much googling (using Windows), i found that i had no swap disk, so
i had to type some guid into a config file or two somewhere. i got KDE
working...but it had no status bar or Start button. it took me more
hours and more googling to get it all working again.

in the course of my googling i discovered that this lost swap disk
seemed to have been reported as a problem with the suspend
functionality. ok then, i won't use suspend any more.

then i needed to use my scanner. everything was black. more google, then
go to a Windows machine (much merriment at my expense) to get the
document scanned.

so, i have black scans because someone decided to ship a suspend feature
that caused me several hours of grief. arrrghh.

i confess that i *assumed* that a bug like this would get fixed PDQ. i
really could not believe the discussion in this thread. i've been
dipping in every couple of weeks and it never gets any better.

i am not the kind of user to compile my own kernel. i'll happily run
some script before starting the scanner, but custom kernels? no way.

i have a common scanner, which worked fine on 6.06. i can understand
something getting broken by a new release (after all, Windows does it
all the time) but i do expect such things to be fixed. to me, this is
more important than adding new features. (why do i need a new feature if
it's going to break at the next release?)


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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-29 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
No! Please _don't_ add a LIDE 60! See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-
source-2.6.20/+bug/85488/comments/331 for details...

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-28 Thread Ben Collins
linux-source-2.6.22 (2.6.22-9.19) gutsy; urgency=low

  [Amit Kucheria]

  * Fix for FTBFS bug 123178
  * Fix for FTBFS bug 123178
  * Add devices to USB quirks to prevent USB autosuspend
  * More devices added to USB quirks
- LP: #85488
  * Support for ENE CB-712/4 SD card reader
  * Reorder quirk list based on Vendor/Product ID

  [Ben Collins]

  * ubuntu: Enable HOTPLUG_CPU in sparc64-smp config.
  * ubuntu: Add xen to amd64 custom builds
  * ubuntu: Update real-time kernel to -rt4
  * rt: Patch from Alessio Igor Bogani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for RT-8

  [Chuck Short]

  * IDE: add MHV2080BH to NCQ blacklist
  * XEN: update to 2.6.22 final and amd64 support.
  * NET: Add more pci-ids to zd1211rw
  * IDE: add new PCI ID
  * USB: fix oops in ftdi_sio

  [Eric Piel]

  * ACPI: Allow custom DSDT tables to be loaded from initramfs

  [Ryan Lortie]

  * Macbook calibration loop fix
- LP: #54621

  [Upstream Kernel Changes]

  * NETFILTER: {ip, nf}_conntrack_sctp: fix remotely triggerable NULL ptr
dereference (CVE-2007-2876)
  * Linux 2.6.22.1
  * [SPARC64]: Use KERN_ERR in sun4v IRQ printk()'s.
  * [SPARC64]: Add LDOM virtual channel driver and VIO device layer.
  * [SPARC64]: Add Sun LDOM virtual network driver.
  * [SPARC64]: Add Sun LDOM virtual disk driver.
  * [SPARC64]: Create proper obppath sysfs files for VIO bus devices.
  * [SPARC64] LDC: Do limited polled retry on setting RX queue head.
  * [SUNVNET]: Validate RX descriptor size field.
  * [SPARC64]: Add missing symbol exports for LDOM infrastructure.
  * [SPARC64]: Temporary workaround for LDC INO double-delivery.
  * [SPARC64]: Create 'devspec' nodes for vio devices.
  * [SPARC64]: vdev->type can be NULL, handle this in devspec_show().
  * [SPARC64]: Assorted LDC bug cures.
  * [SPARC64]: Add domain-services nodes to VIO device tree.
  * [SPARC64]: Export powerd facilities for external entities.
  * [SPARC64]: Initial domain-services driver.
  * [SPARC64]: Use more mearningful names for IRQ registry.
  * [SPARC64]: Abstract out mdesc accesses for better MD update handling.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix MD property lifetime bugs.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix setting of variables in LDOM guest.
  * [SPARC64]: Initial LDOM cpu hotplug support.
  * [SPARC64]: Unconditionally register vio_bus_type.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix build regressions added by dr-cpu changes.
  * [SPARC64]: mdesc.c needs linux/mm.h
  * [SPARC64]: SMP build fixes.
  * [SPARC64]: More sensible udelay implementation.
  * [SPARC64]: Process dr-cpu events in a kthread instead of workqueue.
  * [SPARC64]: Add ->set_affinity IRQ handlers.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix leak when DR added cpu does not bootup.
  * [SPARC64]: Clear cpu_{core,sibling}_map[] in
smp_fill_in_sib_core_maps()
  * [SPARC64]: Give more accurate errors in dr_cpu_configure().
  * [SERIAL]: Fix console write locking in sparc drivers.
  * [TIMER]: Fix clockevent notifications on 64-bit.
  * [SPARC64]: dr-cpu unconfigure support.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix UP build.
  * [SPARC64]: SMP build fix.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix race between MD update and dr-cpu add.
  * [SERIAL] SUNHV: Fix jerky console on LDOM guests.
  * [SPARC64]: Kill explicit %gl register reference.
  * [SPARC64]: Add basic infrastructure for MD add/remove notification.
  * [SPARC64]: Simplify VDC device probing.
  * [SPARC64]: Simplify VNET probing.
  * [SPARC64]: Massively simplify VIO device layer and support hot
add/remove.
  * [SPARC64]: Handle LDC resets properly in domain-services driver.
  * [SPARC64]: Handle reset events in vio_link_state_change().
  * [SPARC64]: Fix reset handling in VNET driver.
  * [SPARC64]: Set vio->desc_buf to NULL after freeing.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() specification in VDC and VNET.
  * [SPARC64]: Fix device type matching in VIO's devspec_show().
  * Add empty 
  * Add dummy isa_(bus|virt)_to_(virt|bus) inlines
  * Clean up sti_flush
  * Do not allow STI_CONSOLE to be modular
  * Use compat_sys_getdents

 -- Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:30:53 -0400

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-23 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
oliver.w:
I suspect your issue is not related to this particular bug. Try searching for a 
more appropriate bug and if none can be found please open a new bug report. 
Thanks!

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-23 Thread oliver.w
I have the same problem with my EPSON scanner. Xsane crashed, as well as kooka 
and scanimage dumps a core. But it looks
like, it has something to do with root privilegs. Runnning all the programs 
with sudo it works perfectly as before. For me, it looks like ubuntu has done 
during the last weeks, an update which kills the user rights for certain 
operations

Looking forward to get some more ideas.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-23 Thread Amit Kucheria
Patches committed to git tree

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-23 Thread Amit Kucheria
@Oliver: Could you send me a link to the tree you are pushing these to?
I am assuming you meant GregKH's tree?

@Afflicted users:
Please make sure your device actually gets fixed by the steps outlined in 
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/85488/comments/363
Also, find the current blacklist at the following link [1], line 30 onwards. 
Post additional device IDs _only_ if it is not already on the list. These 
changes should be available in Gutsy Tribe 4 CD (9th Aug, IIRC).

[1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-
gutsy.git;a=blob;h=c45403690959124e9382e69fbaf659c074b7c638;hb=f3cd393345b51195bcab12af49c3c043f5f9b91c;f=drivers/usb/core/quirks.c

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-22 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
yostral:
This is no surprise... the quirk for your scanner hasn't gone in yet! See 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/85488/comments/351
 .

elias:
Can you see if following the steps in 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/85488/comments/363
 (as only Gutsy kernel has these options) resolves your issue? If so can you 
include the output of
lsusb
with the other devices plugged in?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-22 Thread elias
I am also having problems with other USB devices.

Robert North suggests in bug #88746 based on info from a kernel bug
report that this might also have something to do with the
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND kernel option.

Comment from Robert North: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/79
Kernel Bug he is referring to: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7932

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-22 Thread yostral
On Tribe 3 LiveCD, still doesn't work with Canon Lide 30 scanner (ID
04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30).

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-22 Thread fraz
today I tested Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 3 with my epson perfection 1670 and
xsane worked out of the box!

I am  very happy about that, it give me some hope ...

regards
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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-20 Thread jengel
@t2000kw Same problem I had with Tribe 2 and later. Try to get Tribe 1
ISO, worked for me.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-20 Thread t2000kw
I tried today's daily build so I could report on trying out the echo -1
. . . test on the USB scanner I have.

The problem is, while I can boot other ISO Linux CDROMs, this one boos
so far and then stops at a light earth-tone (light orange-tan?) screen.
The screen is blank, so I can't do anything.

I'll have to wait a few days and try again with another daily build.

Did anyone else encounter that problem?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Chang
I like this idea, but (IMO, at least) it would be important for such a
dialog to also automatically capture the USB IDs of the devices in
question and post them to some place where the quirks list could be
updated, perhaps similar to or as a part of the automated bug reporting
system now in Ubuntu. (That said, it seems a lot more obvious to capture
"app XYZ has crashed" (Segmentation Faults, etceteras) so the dialog
might not be something that pops up automatically... the user may have
to activate it manually, or it may pop up in cases where it doesn't
apply, in which case we have to find a way to A) reverse the change, and
B) triage or otherwise verify IDs which appear on any auto-generated
list actually exhibit this problem, and can have their functionality
restored by adding them to the quirks list.) But wouldn't that be a
feature request (i.e. requiring a separate bug report under "wishlist"
or specification)?

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-20 Thread felix.rommel
Ok, echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend did the trick
for my Benq 3300 S2W scanner.

It's a good idea creating a quirks list. But what makes me worry is,
that in my opinion too less people will come to this bug page and post
their problematic USB hardware ID. And I think that especially new Linux
users, which Ubuntu tries to address, won't post their problematic
hardware specs here.

If their hardware won't work, and they search in ubuntuforums or
somewhere and get an answer like: "you have to go to command line,
insert a command, post it to this bugs page and wait a few weeks until
an updated quirks list is available with a new kernel update" they maybe
go further and won't use Linux any more.

I do not know how many USB devices are affected from autosuspend, but it
seems that these are a lot of people regarding to length of this report.
I think it would be better to offer a dialog for people who have
problematic hardware, that appends the line

echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend

to /etc/rc.local for example. Maybe this is not a clean solution but
better than having people with broken hardware to wait a few
weeks/months until an updated quirks list with a new kernel is released.

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[Bug 85488] Re: some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled

2007-07-20 Thread SteveB
another for the list
ID 04b8:0122 Seiko Epson Corp.

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