Re: Application for ubuntu-desktop membership

2024-06-18 Thread Robert Ancell
I can vouch for Daniel's long history working on desktop components and am sure he'll continue to do great work on Ubuntu desktop. +1 from me makes 3/3 - adding him to the team now. On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 6:47 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey desktopers, > > I've worked with Daniel for a long t

Re: [Merge] ~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Ancell
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+git/gnome-software/+merge/358489 Your team Ubuntu Desktop is subscribed to branch ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com htt

[Merge] ~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter:fix-1809407-eoan into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/mutter:ubuntu/master

2019-08-05 Thread Robert Ancell
The proposal to merge ~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter:fix-1809407-eoan into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/mutter:ubuntu/master has been updated. Status: Needs review => Rejected For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/368536 -- You

[Bug 1572456] Re: Software (gnome-software) icon shown twice inside Launcher

2017-08-30 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1572456 Title: Software (gnome-software) icon shown twice inside Launc

Re: Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM Jean-Baptiste Lallement < jean-baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Le 08/08/2017 à 06:02, Robert Ancell a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > One thing that came out of discussions at GUADEC was a request that > >

Re: Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-08 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks for the feedback Paul! On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:16 PM Paul Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 04:02 +0000, Robert Ancell wrote: > > I've tried to summarise the status quo - feedback / changes welcome! > > I didn't understand the gnome-boxes / Remmina comments

Default Apps: gnome-music and gnome-photos

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
There are two core GNOME apps that we do not currently ship: - Photos (we have Shotwell instead) - Music (we have Rhythmbox instead). Based on in-person discussions it seems likely we will continue to ship our existing apps for the immediate future because: - These apps rely on Tracker, which has

Default App: GNOME Contacts

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-contacts is an address book and is part of the core GNOME apps. It has all dependencies in main except for folks (which used to be in main). While this seems to work well in managing your e-d-s based contacts, I'm not sure if there's a particular use for it in Ubuntu. Address book functional

Default App: GNOME Characters

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-characters is a character browser and is part of the core GNOME apps. All its dependencies are in main. It replaces the older gucharmap that we continue to ship. gnome-characters has a GUI that fits in with the GNOME style, while gucharmap has an old fashioned interface. I found it simpler t

Default App: GNOME Clocks

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-clocks adds world clock functionality to GNOME Shell and provides alarm/stopwatch/timer functionality. It is part of the core GNOME apps. All its dependencies are in main. Based on verbal discussions most people seem keen for it to be shipped by default, with a blocking issue being the alarm

Default App: GNOME To Do

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-todo is a task manager / note taker and is part of the core GNOME apps. All its dependencies are in main. We should ship it by default or give a reason in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DefaultApps why it should not be included. --Robert -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.

Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, One thing that came out of discussions at GUADEC was a request that Ubuntu ship the core GNOME apps. We've also had a few discussions recently on this list about including some of these. I proposed that we should make a list of the reasons that we ship / do not ship certain apps so it wou

Re: Remove default app: xterm?

2017-07-23 Thread Robert Ancell
I know we previously had issues where gnome-terminal could fail to work reliably under certain bad driver cases (it was the case for virtual machines for some time). I think these issues haven't been a problem for some time though. +1 from me for removal. On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 4:34 AM Bryan Qui

Help verifying SRUs

2017-07-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've got some SRUs that need verifying, if you have a few minutes could you have a look and check if these work for you? If you can confirm these work then change the tag on the bug from verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial (replace xenial with zesty when testing on 17.04

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-07-10 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks for spotting that Amr! Fixed in 3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.4 On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:56 PM Amr Ibrahim wrote: > I don't see any user reviews in gnome-software 3.20.5. Neither for > installed nor non-installed applications. Does anyone have the same issue? > > On 07/07/17 04:

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-07-06 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks for testing everyone, I've now uploaded this to xenial-proposed to go through the SRU process. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:34 AM Amr Ibrahim wrote: > Hallo, > > I am also testing gnome-software 3.20.5 in Xenial. It's working well so > far. In fact, I think it fixes this bug > https://bugs.l

Re: Call for testing: GNOME Software app in Xenial

2017-06-22 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi Per-Inge, Thanks for testing! So they main conclusion you came to was it was very slow to search with the updated version in 16.04? Are you able to confirm it is not slow with the old version in 16.04? I'm not seeing a search delay here, though there can be a startup delay while GNOME Software

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-06-22 Thread Robert Ancell
Confirmed. The 3.20.1 -> 3.20.2 release changed the PackageKit plugin name from "PackageKit" to "packagekit" and I didn't update the APT plugin. Fixed in 3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.1.1 in the PPA. On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:42 AM Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey Robert, &g

Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-06-17 Thread Robert Ancell
After much frustration I've managed to rebase our version of GNOME Software in Xenial on 3.20.5. This means we can pick up all the general improvements that were made post-release and hopefully fix some reliability issues that we're seeing in errors.ubuntu.com. If you are running Xenial I would lo

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:52 AM Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey there, > > Le 08/06/2017 à 23:52, Robert Ancell a écrit : > > I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able > > now gnome-shell is in main. Maps is a core GNOME app. > > S

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
Jeremy pointed out that folks dropped out of main in artful, so that would have to go back in. On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:52 AM Robert Ancell wrote: > I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... > > I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so

Re: Default App: gnome-sushi

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Robert Ancell > wrote: > > The functionality of Sushi seems very good but the discoverability is > > terrible. Has this been raised with upstream at all? > > Not that I'm awa

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
GNOME Maps has been a core app since GNOME 3.20 On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:52 AM Robert Ancell wrote: > I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... > > I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able now > gnome-shell is i

Re: Default App: gnome-sushi

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
The functionality of Sushi seems very good but the discoverability is terrible. Has this been raised with upstream at all? On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:33 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Now that gnome-shell is in the default Ubuntu 17.10 daily image, I > think we could maybe start talking about other defa

Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able now gnome-shell is in main. Maps is a core GNOME app. Mapping is a standard feature of modern operating systems. By including maps we also encourage Ubuntu u

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Where we are today: - GDM is undergoing a security check to be included in main [1]. - We've got GNOME Shell onto the 17.10 image, running under LightDM. - We've attempted to get the GNOME Shell lock screen running with LightDM and using GNOME Shell as a LightDM Greeter. Which this still s

Re: Experience on switching to GNOME Shell

2017-05-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:42 PM Daniel van Vugt < daniel.van.v...@canonical.com> wrote: > > So I would log enhancement ideas in launchpad, with some tag like > 'gnome-18.04'... > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs > But that's just me. > > I agree logging things in Lau

Experience on switching to GNOME Shell

2017-05-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've been using GNOME Shell for about a month now and I've had open a Google Doc that I've been using to list down the things that I would like to see resolved by 18.04 to ship a great experience. Now I have a bit of a list, I'm wondering what the most productive way is to use this. I'm h

Re: Look ahead at GNOME 3.26

2017-04-25 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:51 PM Martin Pitt wrote: > > FTR, upstream systemd is currently converting to meson [1], and we > successfully > run builds of it both in Debian unstable as well as in Ubuntu 16.04 with > ninja+meson backports [2]. Not having debhelper support is not a big > blocker --

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Robert Ancell
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 8:56 AM Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Lastly, I wanted to know if there are any security differences in how > the login/lock screens work? > Specifically: > Is their a process I can kill from a user session to break the lock? > If I'm able to crash the lock screen, is the user

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:57 AM Tim wrote: > > > On 20/04/17 00:32, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > That is not entirely right, the GUI for gdm is actually a cut-down > gnome-shell session, this applies to

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:58 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sebastien Bacher > wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > > Generally, lightdm works with GNOME, but it hasn't been tested much so > it somet

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks Seb, = Disclaimer = Firstly, I should disclose my interests - I am the founder and maintainer of LightDM. I'll try and minimise any biases I might have. Ultimately I want the best outcome and I'm happy with either way we go as long as it makes sense. = History (simplified) = In the begin

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:34 AM Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 18 April 2017 at 21:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > > > If we do include an email client, which one? > > I am worried about this, especially in the enterprise environment > people do want to access corporate mail. > My guess is most e

GUADEC 2017 talk submissions close 23rd April

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Given the recent Ubuntu desktop changes I suspect we'll have some people attending GUADEC 2017 [1] this year. The talk submissions close 23rd April (i.e. in four days). Not sure if anyone knows yet if they'll be there / has something appropriate Ubuntu / GNOME related they can write up in

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
I'm supportive of not including an email client by default given the current selection. If there was a light-weight client available with good features (e.g. Geary) I think there would be a decision but the listed candidates are too big / old. I think if there's no client though there should be go

Re: Does GNOME Software run lintian against third-party debs before installing them?

2016-04-03 Thread Robert Ancell
It does not, please file a bug if you think that is required. On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 12:34 AM Amr Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does GNOME Software run lintian against third-party debs before > installing them? I think Ubuntu Software Center used to do that. > > Running lintian warns user

GNOME Software in 16.04 LTS

2016-01-15 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, As you may be aware, we're currently looking at switching from Ubuntu Software Center to GNOME Software for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS [1]. If you're interested in playing around / helping out: - I've set up a ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software [2] for which currently holds PackageKit 1.0 and GNOME

Re: Drop Ubuntu Software Centre and Adopt GNOME Software

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Ancell
For us to use GNOME Software we probably want to update to the latest version [1]. That's currently blocked because it needs PackageKit 1.0 [2]. And that's blocked until we get a Click update. If anyone knows more migration issues please add information to those bugs. I suspect we might also need s

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
The patch looks good to me and the package builds fine. I haven't uploaded since there's currently 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.2 waiting for verification in utopic-proposed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of GNOME3 Team, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
** Description changed: - When using apps where client-side decorations are being used, a strange - shadow render appears below the window. Screenshots are attached. If - CSDs are not being used, then shadows are rendered correctly. + [Impact] + The Intel video driver has a bug that can cause to i

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Importance: Low => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of GNOME3 Team, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.la

[Bug 1400002] Re: Sync gnome-mines 1:3.14.1-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2014-12-07 Thread Robert Ancell
We can't do this until we have gnome-themes-standard 3.14 and that requires GTK+ 3.14 (see bug 1399046) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/142 Title: Sync gnome-mines 1:3.1

[Bug 1338801] Re: Update to 3.14

2014-12-03 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: gnome-screenshot (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Artur Rona (ari-tczew) ** Changed in: gnome-screenshot (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report.

Please test lightdm stable release 1.10.2 in trusty

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've just uploaded LightDM 1.10.2 [1] to the ubuntu-desktop PPA so it can have some early testing. This release backports a number of important features but shouldn't change any behaviour by default. Please let me know if anyone finds any problems! Thanks, -_Robert [1] https://launchpad.

Why do we have the glade-3 (glade 3.8) package?

2014-09-01 Thread Robert Ancell
Does anyone know why we still have the glade-3 package in the archive? This just seems to be to support an old version of glade (3.8), is that still necessary? -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

Re: Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 15/04/2014 04:32, Robert Ancell a écrit : >> With 14.04 wrapping up it's time to start thinking about what we can >> do with the desktop post LTS. I think there's one big theme we need to >> focus on

Re: Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Jason Warner wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Robert Park > wrote: >> What is the solution? Will we make the desktop roll? Will we subject >> the phone to freezes? I don't know which approach is superior but the >> only thing that's certain is that

Re: Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: > If you replace all these apps with something else, I think that will be the > largest change in Ubuntu's history - most of these apps have been around > since the dawn of time and are very familiar to Ubuntu users. I'd go so far > as to say th

Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-14 Thread Robert Ancell
With 14.04 wrapping up it's time to start thinking about what we can do with the desktop post LTS. I think there's one big theme we need to focus on - Convergence. All the Unity 8 goodness that is going into the phone / tablet builds is coming our way and we need to be prepared for that migration.

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Ancell
ly to catch this case but long term this dependency will go away. People upgrading using the GUI will not have this problem as the upgrader always ensures ubuntu-desktop is installed. Thanks for testing --Robert On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: > Hi all, > > Ubuntu

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Ancell
ow. Not sure if there's some bad interaction with the existing language packs. --Robert [1] $ sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-desktop/unity-control-center On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: > Hi all, > > Ubuntu makes use of a heavily patched gnome-control-center (61 pat

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Robert Ancell [2013-12-11 17:42 +1300]: > > > Please test this PPA and post any problems in the bug report. I'd like to > > land this change into the archive if there are no reasons to block it. > > The upgra

Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Ubuntu makes use of a heavily patched gnome-control-center (61 patches) and we will in future move to the new Ubuntu System Settings [1] once we achieve convergence. We are already running an old version of gnome-control-center (3.6) and the value for Ubuntu in upgrading this is low since

Re: Call for Testing: Mir & multi-monitor

2013-08-26 Thread Robert Ancell
Instructions are here: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/debug_for_xmir.html But in short, first look at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and then /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log if the lightdm.log indicates there is a problem with either. --Robert On Tue, Aug 27, 201

[Merge] lp:~autopilot/cupstream2distro-config/lightdm-config-tweaks into lp:cupstream2distro-config

2013-08-18 Thread Robert Ancell
) Remove the packaging branch for the lightdm project, since this MP merges the packaging to be inline: https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/lightdm/debian-packaging/+merge/180766 2) Deconfigure raring builds in the mir-team staging PPA, per Robert Ancell's request. 3) Remove the lightdm-

Re: Update on the new ibus-1.5 and gnome-settings-daemon gnome-control-center 3.6 situation

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On 21/11/12 07:13, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey, > > I've been looking at the new ibus/g-s-d/g-c-c stack recently to update > in raring and I'm not convinced it's a good idea to update to those. > We have discussed the issue a bit on IRC today but I figured I would > write an email to the list to

Re: Collaboration with Debian [was: Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review]

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 18:02, Martin Pitt wrote: > Robert Ancell [2012-10-17 10:48 +1300]: >> - By updating packages in Debian and waiting for them to flow down to >> Ubuntu kills our velocity. It can change the time from upstream release >> to being in Ubuntu from hours (which is too l

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 18:25, Allison Randal wrote: > On 10/16/2012 03:56 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: >> My point is we *shouldn't* take the time to update Debian as it is all >> cost and no benefit. If you think of Debian as being directly upstream >> from Ubuntu it sounds good b

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 11:28, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > >> - By leaving some packages to be fully maintained by Debian we easily >> end up shipping old packages without noticing it. I was quite shocked >> when I updated the version tracker [1] how many out of date packages we >> ship. If we're going to ship a quali

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 22:36, Iain Lane wrote: > Given the way that both projects are now design led, and the fact that > it's design decisions / philosophies that are driving many of these > difficulties, it would seem prudent for the respective design teams to > try to work together a bit more closely. I wo

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 23:47, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 16/10/2012 06:08, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : >> On 15 October 2012 13:50, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >>> That's going to be a controversial topic but I want to suggest we >>> stay on >>> stable GNOME this cycle, the reasons are (in random order): >> Well yo

Re: Trying to reduce our memory and battery footprint

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 08:19, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 15/10/2012 21:10, Ted Gould a écrit : >> I don't believe that >> happened in the Q cycle, do we think that we could get upstart > Hey, > > James pinged me recently because foundation is planning work for next > cycle and wanted to know what's the most

Re: Trying to reduce our memory and battery footprint

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 09:23, Ted Gould wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 21:19 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> Le 15/10/2012 21:10, Ted Gould a écrit : >>> I don't believe that >>> happened in the Q cycle, do we think that we could get upstart >> James pinged me recently because foundation is planning work fo

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] Drop gconf from the default installation

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Ancell
On 09/10/12 03:58, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > It seems we could finally get ride of libgconf2-4 users next cycle That would be a great package to finally bury :) +100 -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] Default file manager

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14/10/12 08:33, Dylan McCall wrote: > Before talking about file managers, people should talk about how Unity > fits with the direction GNOME applications are going. Because that is > the problem: Unity has a very different vision for how applications > should work than the GNOME project, which i

Re: System compositor progress

2012-07-13 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14/07/12 03:49, John Lenton wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Robert Ancell > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is starting to >> work. Any brave souls who want to start playing with this can have a >>

Re: System compositor progress

2012-07-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 12/07/12 23:00, Jonas Platte wrote: > Am 12.07.2012, 06:58 Uhr, schrieb Christopher James Halse Rogers > : > >> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:04 +1200, Robert Ancell wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is st

System compositor progress

2012-07-10 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi, We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is starting to work. Any brave souls who want to start playing with this can have a look at the instructions in the blueprint. Obviously THIS IS HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL, so play at your own risk! In saying that, early feedback is most welcome

Re: Joining ~ubuntu-desktop

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Ancell
On 10/07/12 05:54, Iain Lane wrote: > Hi there, > > I think it would be beneficial if I were to join the ~ubuntu-desktop > team. It would allow me to not block on sponsors and to be able to > commit directly to the VCS, both of which would be very useful. > > I had hoped to go directly to core-dev,

Re: Accessibility always on in GNOME 3.6.

2012-06-21 Thread Robert Ancell
On 22/06/12 10:52, Luke Yelavich wrote: > Hey folks, > So some of you who watch the goings on and discussions in GNOME upstream may > have noticed this bug(1) and the surrounding discussion about enabling > accessibility everywhere in GNOME 3.6. I've decided to start this thread for > 2 reasons,

Versions page

2012-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, You may be aware of the "versions" web page we use in the desktop team to keep packages up to date: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html The purpose of the page is to give a priority queue (rainbow coloured) of things to work on (by anyone who wants to). This is a t

[Desktop 12.10 Topic] System compositor

2012-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi, A change I'd like to make for 12.10 is to use a compositor to control video from boot to shutdown. This gives us the following benefits: - We can have smooth transitions from the splash screen to the greeter to the session and back again - We don't use VT switching anymore which has been show

[Bug 676578] Re: Support projects, not just Ubuntu packages

2012-01-17 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: launchpad-integration Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged ** Changed in: launchpad-integration Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided =>

Re: Login and lock screen dialog should be the same

2011-12-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 07/12/11 21:49, Steffen Holanger wrote: Hi. I posted this idea on brainstorm. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28767/ I was told to forward it to this mailing list. The description of the problem/idea is in the link. Cheers Steffen That is the plan for 12.04: https://blueprints.launchpa

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Handling Failure Gracefully

2011-10-25 Thread Robert Ancell
Late topic... In the real world there are always going to be failures, triggered by things like software bugs, hardware failures and misconfiguration. Ubuntu should where possible handle common failures and provide predictable feedback to the user that the system is broken. I think we have the i

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Wayland tech preview

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/10/11 18:35, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:33:32PM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: >> It would be nice to be able to optionally run Wayland in 12.04 to try >> out the technology. This will involve: >> - Modifying LightDM to support Wayland &

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Wayland tech preview

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to be able to optionally run Wayland in 12.04 to try out the technology. This will involve: - Modifying LightDM to support Wayland - Writing a Wayland compositor - Running an X server that writes to the compositor - Making it easy to enable this - Disclaiming all responsibility T

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved Authentication

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to improve the authentication mechanisms in Ubuntu to be more user friendly and make it easier to enable modern authentication schemes. This will probably involve: - Reviewing the messages/prompts in PAM for appropriateness - Adding hints to PAM to allow GUIs to better display the

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 05/10/11 10:07, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:41:17AM EST, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >> On 4 October 2011 14:49, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >>> We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not >>> sure if we should go with the new version (we staying on 3.0 which

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Ancell
On 09/07/11 19:23, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > 1. For users who change display language once in a while - for whatever >reason - it provides a more convenient way for doing so than doing it >from the Language Support UI or its successor. There is a fresh bug >report about it, btw: https

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 05/07/11 19:11, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> Note that this doesn't necessarily have to be implemented in the >> greeter, i.e. you can run zenity in the guest accounts .profile and that >> prompts the user on login for language. Or you can make multiple >> sessions for each installed language, i.

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 17:41, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Montag, den 04.07.2011, 12:44 +1000 schrieb Robert Ancell: >> I haven't heard of any standard user requirements to switch between >> more than two languages, or two languages that do not include English >> (please

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 21:00, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > I take it that you would like to see a solid base for decision that we > do not have access to. Given that, to me the natural conclusion is that > Ubuntu keeps providing the feature for now. For a feature to exist, it needs a justification. I see no r

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 20:11, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Robert Ancell wrote on 04/07/11 03:44: > > >> If you change the display language within a session, it does not take > >> effect in that session, but only after you have logged out and > >> logged in again. The l

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 21:57, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:44 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: >> From what I've gathered talking to people the classes of user are: >> 1. Users who set the system language at install/first boot time, and >> never change it (the vast

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-03 Thread Robert Ancell
I've cc'd in Mika and John, who worked on the design of the new greeter (not the greeter that is currently delivered with Oneiric) and Charline who does user testing as they will probably have good opinions on this feature. > I'm of the opinion that we should keep providing a language chooser > wid

Re: Reports for Desktop Bugs

2011-06-15 Thread Robert Ancell
Nice work! I'd recommend adding a "Development" tab that tracks development packages. I had this problem with the versions page in that it automatically tracks packages on the CD, but not the packages that were used to build them. Things like intltool which are just as critical as the applicatio

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/07/2011 08:03 PM, Matthew East wrote: > On 7 June 2011 10:02, Alan Bell wrote: >> yeah, I would very much hope that lightdm does not introduce more >> accessibility regressions. > I'm taking this opportunity to post a link to this comment on the > proposed switch to lightDM from Matthew Garr

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
>>> This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. > Good to know, Robert. Are you able to say something about e.g. the > keyboard layout and universal access? > This is an area where I'm definitely not an expert, and your help is greatly appreciated here! Most of my knowledge

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/06/2011 10:30 PM, Kevin Huang wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:01 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: >> This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. > > Any target date that loco can start to test? > Definitely by Beta, ideally by A2. -- ubuntu-desktop m

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-06 Thread Robert Ancell
ightdm' and then > add a tracker for the upstream project ( > https://launchpad.net/lightdm)? Thanks. > > -Stenten > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Robert Ancell > mailto:robert.anc...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > As LightDM is sc

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-06 Thread Robert Ancell
#x27;s only the user language that can be set from the login > screen. Since there is no language option in LightDM screen, I assume > no user language that can be set in Oneric. Is it correct? > > -- > Best regards, > > Kevin > > On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:52 +1000, Robe

Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, As LightDM is scheduled to be the default display manager in Oneric by Alpha 2 it would be awesome if we can get as many testers as possible, so please be a guinea pig! If you are using Oneric you can install it from Universe: $ sudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-greeter-example-gtk If

[Bug 699893] Re: AisleRiot: Card style will not install properly

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Ancell
Note that aisleriot has been split out of GNOME Games for the 3.1 release, so it's important that this change is made to the new aisleriot package when it is packaged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad

Re: Proposing to add Rodrigo Moya to ~ubuntu-desktop

2011-04-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/20/2011 06:44 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello all, > > Rodrigo has worked in the desktop team for several months now, and > will continue to do so. In my experience he has picked up all the > necessary packaging skills, is familiar with our processes, freezes, > revision control handling, and

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 05:31 AM, Javier Jardón wrote: > On 8 April 2011 00:23, Robert Ancell wrote: > >> Can we get all our CD applications using GTK3? I'm thinking of Firefox >> here, we really don't want to have one or two applications requiring >> both packages on

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/11/2011 07:30 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011, Robert Ancell wrote: >> - Speed improvements - we can run a greeter without running a full GNOME >> session > Running a "full" GNOME session sounds like a waste, but it kind of > makes sense to

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/11/2011 01:39 PM, James Westby wrote: > On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:02:35 +1000, Robert Ancell > wrote: >> Last cycle I proposed using LightDM to replace GDM [1]. It was deferred >> due to the Unity work, so time to repropose! >> >> The main reasons for switc

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 06:34 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Robert Ancell [2011-04-11 10:36 +1000]: >> - People are often ignoring the branches and uploading directly (or >> forgetting do a bzr push) which means changes are sometimes dropped by >> accident >> - People often do

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