flashplugin-installer (11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1)

2016-10-12 Thread Claus-Peter.Brockmann
Vorkonfiguration der Pakete ... (Lese Datenbank ... 380366 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.) Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../flashplugin-installer_11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1_amd64.deb ... Entpacken von flashplugin-installer (11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1) ├╝ber

on systems that require frequent updates

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36: Absolutely. I'd switch on the update thingy for them to click OK for their systems to be updated. Here is a quick baffling picture on the topic of automatic updates. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CugYubMXEAALJ20.jpg:large This guy spent 11 hours getting his

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
amon schreef op 12-10-2016 4:37: The problem is that in my desktop I end up with a race. The desktop detects the new device and ignores cryptab and fstab and asks if I want to mount or whatever. I have to give it a NO and then go to a root shell and execute a manual cryptdisk_start and mount

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:26:22 +0200, Xen wrote: >And I agree that this is not a user problem because it would be /every >user/'s problem. Something like this must work by default, ie. gvfs >shouldn't prevent stuff from being mounted. And if it does mount, it >should honour fstab. If it doesn't

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread amon
Xen: Thanks for the tip. That works. So I think the simplest way to fix this issue is to add x-gvfs-show to the mount or fstab man page. Those are the first place that most users of such a feature are going to look. -- +---+ | Dale

Re: on systems that require frequent updates

2016-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:27:39 +0200, Xen wrote: >This guy spent 11 hours getting his WiFi kettle to work. Then when it >worked, his internet-of-things Lights prompted for an updated, and >subsequently stopped working. (While the update was running). His >house was without lights. > >They were

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 11-10-2016 21:16: "These are all practically unused options." And they are. I have never come across a single file that had the immutable bit set or I would have found out. If the graphical tools don't support it it won't be much use unless automated system

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:23:11 -0500, amon wrote: >So I think the simplest way to fix this issue is to add x-gvfs-show to >the mount or fstab man page. Those are the first place that most users >of such a feature are going to look. I seriously doubt that an Ubuntu maintainer will patch those man

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
If a user needs special privileges to do something, then only grant the user the required privileges, no need to give admin privileges. If root does something, root can remount read only, set the immutable bit temporarily, but most important, even the admin should only become root, if required

Re: flashplugin-installer (11.2.202.637ubuntu0.16.04.1)

2016-10-12 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2016-10-12 10:38, Claus-Peter.Brockmann wrote: W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/adobe-flashplugin_20161011.1.orig.tar.gz' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Keine Berechtigung) That warning