Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 13:56 +0300 schrieb Alberto Mardegan: Now, suppose that I have a huge 16:9 tablet with a 20 diagonal. From the blog post, I understand that either the UI elements will be huge, defeating the point of having a big tablet and contradicting the whole idea of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Andrea Cimitan
On 18/06/15 12:10, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 13:56 +0300 schrieb Alberto Mardegan: Now, suppose that I have a huge 16:9 tablet with a 20 diagonal. From the blog post, I understand that either the UI elements will be huge, defeating the point of having a big

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 18.06.2015 14:35, Oliver Grawert wrote: as i said, in the case of phones we can actually compute the right value in advance since we have both values (physical size and density) ... we cant do that on devices we provide generic images for like laptops if we dont offer an image per model ...

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Oliver Grawert
Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 12:17 +0100 schrieb Andrea Cimitan: On 18/06/15 12:10, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 13:56 +0300 schrieb Alberto Mardegan: Now, suppose that I have a huge 16:9 tablet with a 20 diagonal. From the blog post, I understand that

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 12:15 +0100 schrieb Alan Bell: On 18/06/15 10:00, Oliver Grawert wrote: what really bothers me about this is that we don't take the HW capabilities of the panel into account at all but instead take a setting that fits all without the ability to adjust ...

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/06/15 12:40, Oliver Grawert wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DeprecatedPorting#Screen_Pixel_Ratio shows how exactly the grid units for a device are to be computed ... the problem is that we don't really get the pixel density from any system info here ... ciao oli yeah I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/06/15 10:00, Oliver Grawert wrote: what really bothers me about this is that we don't take the HW capabilities of the panel into account at all but instead take a setting that fits all without the ability to adjust ... additionally we don't take into account the hardware capabilities of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Yasmany Cubela Medina
Hi All. I want to support Daniel about IRC communication, i step in a few times requesting help and non of them i get a response, and i try it in both scenarios on day light on my time zone and in the night. Really its hard to get help through those channels. By the other hand this mail list its

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [ubuntu-phone] Offline routing application - Publishing problems

2015-06-18 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 06/03/2015 02:25 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: On 06/02/2015 02:10 PM, Frans Schreuder wrote: This is a complicated topic and currently app-access to the SD card is not fully implemented. This has been discussed in the past and the main points are: * we don't want to allow a shared

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [ubuntu-phone] Offline routing application - Publishing problems

2015-06-18 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 06/18/2015 09:15 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: A few moments ago we got all the right people in a hangout to discuss how to support SD Card access with apps and we have a preliminary design that addresses the aforementioned complexities, maintains application isolation and allows apps

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [ubuntu-phone] Offline routing application - Publishing problems

2015-06-18 Thread Frans Schreuder
A few moments ago we got all the right people in a hangout to discuss how to support SD Card access with apps and we have a preliminary design that addresses the aforementioned complexities, maintains application isolation and allows apps to use the SD Card without any additional

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Yasmany Cubela Medina yasman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All. I want to support Daniel about IRC communication, i step in a few times requesting help and non of them i get a response, and i try it in both scenarios on day light on my time zone and in the night.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Leo Arias
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Yasmany Cubela Medina yasman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All. I want to support Daniel about IRC communication, i step in a few times requesting help and non of them i get a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] note / evernote

2015-06-18 Thread David Planella
Hi Wayne, I'm assuming you installed the reminders-app and the accounts-plugin-evernote packages from a PPA and you are trying to run them on a classic (Unity 7) desktop. While the Notes (formerly Reminders) app will run on the desktop, its Online Accounts part is relying on Unity 8

[Ubuntu-phone] Mako Boots To Blank Screen After OTA-4

2015-06-18 Thread Phil
I got the OTA-4 (I should be on Mako/stable, IIRC) which installed and seemed to restart OK on my Nexus 4, and I was looking at putting my ssh scripts on there. I created a bin directory in my home path and added PATH=$PATH:~/bin to my .pam_environment file, but after this didn't seem to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence, Browser and WebRTC

2015-06-18 Thread Selene Scriven
* Marco A. Harrendorf marcoka...@web.de wrote: I tried out starting of native X11 applications on my phone ... Starting graphical X11 programs on my Ubuntu Phone is working quite well, ... * Install Fluxbox as window manager sudo apt-get install fluxbox ... * Install some Web Browser

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Christian Dywan
That's what they thought back in the days of DPI. Short answer: No, you won't get correct numbers. Am Do, 18. Jun, 2015 um 8:11 schrieb Alberto Mardegan alberto.marde...@canonical.com: On 18.06.2015 14:35, Oliver Grawert wrote: as i said, in the case of phones we can actually compute the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] note / evernote

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Terry
You're talking about on the phone? The account it wants is an Evernote account (not a Facebook one). But I haven't seen the bug you're talking about. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Wayne Ward i...@wayneward.co.uk wrote: Im just trying to run note / evernote app on vivid it starts but wont

[Ubuntu-phone] note / evernote

2015-06-18 Thread Wayne Ward
Im just trying to run note / evernote app on vivid it starts but wont let me add account it just hangs is there a way of making go past to add account please that any body knows ive been in accounts and selected facebook account and it would let me add that and i added my ubuntu one account to

[Ubuntu-phone] Wi-Fi off drains battery

2015-06-18 Thread Marek Greško
Hello, I would like to ask whether anybody else is observing, that the bq aquaris phone is draining battery faster when Wi-Fi is turned off? I am not sure whether it is true or is it only my feeling. My observations are as follows: 1. When I bought the phone there was bug that drained battery

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 18.06.15

2015-06-18 Thread Phil
due to manifest switches * Smoke-testing results: devel : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/wily/touch/ rc : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/ #229 devel/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/wily/touch/mako/229:20150618:20150529.1/13027/ #165 rc/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Search in contacts

2015-06-18 Thread Roman Shchekin
Who wrote this code? *var containsLetter = /^[a-zA-Z]/.test(value)* Are you serious? English-only letter checking in OS with best internationalization. Can I unsee this? I will propose fix now. 2015-06-12 17:38 GMT+03:00 Christian Dywan christian.dy...@canonical.com: More specifically

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 18.06.15

2015-06-18 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/ #229 devel/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/wily/touch/mako/229:20150618:20150529.1/13027/ #165 rc/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch_stable/mako/165:20150618:20150210/13019/ * Some useful documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam https

[Ubuntu-phone] Unity8, Mir LXC for Xapps update June 18, 2015

2015-06-18 Thread Kevin Gunn
Latest in Unity8 ui - Full shell rotation finally landed, really! - Slim greeter, working through remaining issues with fullscreen and mouse - MP up for launcher alert (icon wiggling) - Worked on shadows for the scope card - Some more fixes for flaky tests - Started work on

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] note / evernote

2015-06-18 Thread wayne Ward
No sorry vivid ubuntu desktop works great on phone sorry Wayne On Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:05:44 BST, Michael Terry wrote: You're talking about on the phone? The account it wants is an Evernote account (not a Facebook one). But I haven't seen the bug you're talking about. On Thu, Jun 18,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Search in contacts

2015-06-18 Thread Roman Shchekin
It's quite easier to check if text contains only digits and (or) other symbols which are available in a phone number. But which symbols are available in phone number? +, whitespace, (, ), -, any suggestions? I want to write something like this: var containsNumber = /^[0-9\s\+\-\(\)]+$/ var

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wi-Fi off drains battery

2015-06-18 Thread Selene Scriven
* Marek Greško mgres...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask whether anybody else is observing, that the bq aquaris phone is draining battery faster when Wi-Fi is turned off? There is a bug for a different phone where power usage is too high with wifi on (while the screen is off), but in my

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence, Browser and WebRTC

2015-06-18 Thread p
In the future it would be awesome, if one could use the native Ubuntu Touch virtual keyboard and does not have to rely on xvkbd. My gutfeeling was that this should be doable. The native keyboard is Maliit, which is the same that's used in the Jolla and in the (dormant?/defunct?)

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Daniel Wood
I would like to thank you all for your replies. Its very kind of you to take the time to reply. Nicholas I will upgrade my machine to Vivid to see if that helps. I assumed that 14.10 would be ok as all the documentation states 14.04 onwards.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Updates and channels?

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi On 17.06.2015 16:42, Sergio Schvezov wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 02:05:17PM +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: First of all, generally it's not really a good idea to mix apt-get upgrades with OTA upgrades. The whole philosophy of OTA updates is that the core-components of the system

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Daniel Wood
Thanks for the reply Benjamin. I will update to 15.04 and see if my issues are resolved. Thanks, Dan On 18 June 2015 at 10:30, Benjamin Zeller benjamin.zel...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Daniel, i'm sad to hear that you have such a bad experience using our SDK. Do you use the Ubuntu SDK ppa?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence, Browser and WebRTC

2015-06-18 Thread Mike Sheldon
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 06:50 +, p wrote: In the future it would be awesome, if one could use the native Ubuntu Touch virtual keyboard and does not have to rely on xvkbd. My gutfeeling was that this should be doable. The native keyboard is Maliit, which is the same that's used in the

[Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey there, (I hope some of the designers are on this list ;-) I've been reading the design blog entries about the grid system [1] [2] and I'm trying to make sense of what is described. The guidelines say that a panel should be 40/50/90 gus. What happens if I'm using an application in window

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Daniel Wood
Hi David, Would it be possible to add more information about components in to the documentation? The following would be really helpful: - An image of the component - Links to launchpad where working code of the component are stored Thanks, Dan On 18 June 2015 at 09:32, David Callé

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 18.06.2015 10:52, Sebastien Bacher wrote: I've been reading the design blog entries about the grid system [1] [2] and I'm trying to make sense of what is described. I'm also quite confused, especially about this: ...if the screen width can not divide by the desired number of Grid Units (40,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread David Callé
On 18/06/2015 09:14, Daniel Wood wrote: I would like to thank you all for your replies. Its very kind of you to take the time to reply. Nicholas I will upgrade my machine to Vivid to see if that helps. I assumed that 14.10 would be ok as all the documentation states 14.04 onwards.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Force update

2015-06-18 Thread Frans Schreuder
Hello Ed Kapitein, Did you finally get the update? My colleague (Jeroen) still didn't get it. Frans On 06/16/2015 10:18 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi all, I had to restart my phone, after i received the there is an update notice. After the restart the notice is gone, and if i use check for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Force update

2015-06-18 Thread Ed Kapitein
On 06/18/2015 10:36 AM, Frans Schreuder wrote: Hello Ed Kapitein, Did you finally get the update? My colleague (Jeroen) still didn't get it. Frans On 06/16/2015 10:18 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi all, I had to restart my phone, after i received the there is an update notice. After the restart

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Jelmer Prins
I had the same, this has to do with the changing of the channel names a while back you can upgrade by going to the terminal and executing the following command sudo system-image-cli -v --switch ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu and just let that run, it worked for me with no loss of data You should

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread David Callé
Both great ideas, definitely something we need to put on the roadmap. On 18/06/2015 10:39, Daniel Wood wrote: Hi David, Would it be possible to add more information about components in to the documentation? The following would be really helpful: - An image of the component - Links to

[Ubuntu-phone] Remove initrd repo that's not up to date

2015-06-18 Thread YC Cheng
Hi, We have two initrd repo live in phablet and they are: ubuntu_prebuilt_initrd ubuntu_prebuilt_initrd_debs Currently the ubuntu_prebuilt_initrd is not up to date, and ubuntu_prebuilt_initrd_debs is. I am not sure if anyone is still using ubuntu_prebuilt_initrd. If not, I'll propose that we

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Andrea Cimitan
On 18/06/15 09:02, Alberto Mardegan wrote: On 18.06.2015 10:52, Sebastien Bacher wrote: I've been reading the design blog entries about the grid system [1] [2] and I'm trying to make sense of what is described. I'm also quite confused, especially about this: ...if the screen width can not

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.06.2015, 09:52 +0200 schrieb Sebastien Bacher: Hey there, (I hope some of the designers are on this list ;-) I've been reading the design blog entries about the grid system [1] [2] and I'm trying to make sense of what is described. what really bothers me about

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer support

2015-06-18 Thread Benjamin Zeller
Hi Daniel, i'm sad to hear that you have such a bad experience using our SDK. Do you use the Ubuntu SDK ppa? Because otherwise you won't get the most recent tools. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa Then being on 14.10 you can not run apps for 15.04 (Ubuntu.Components

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to start with Ubuntu Phone?

2015-06-18 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Caesar Samsi cmsa...@hotmail.com wrote: [Sorry, now resending with my list address] The users will use a normal GUI app. The command line tools are development tools needed to make the daemons. I understand that you may not want to give details that can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Grid system's question

2015-06-18 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 18.06.2015 12:36, Andrea Cimitan wrote: in the case of devices that cannot be divided by this desired number of grid units (bq 4.5, meizu mx4, nexus 4, nexus 7 for example have this problem, while the new bq 5 should be fine if I remember) we will try to add a black border that will be