Remember you can always claim your money back for not using windows!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm
55quid is not bad.
As barry sugested linuxemporium doesn't seem like a bad option:
http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/hardware/hardware-laptops.html
I use dell at work but they are
On 17/01/11 08:26, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
Remember you can always claim your money back for not using windows!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm
MS have made it much harder to do that since Windows 7. The wording of
the EULA was changed.
We have bought laptops and I've
What do other people do? Any advice?
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
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On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
thought they were a tad expensive. Is
On 17 January 2011 09:53, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
I've heard very good reports about them,
On 17/01/11 09:58, Sean Miller wrote:
That's always been a concern of mine... they always seem excessive in
terms of price vs. specification and I don't understand this, because
surely building a machine WITHOUT Windows (and its costly licences, even
considering OEM) ought to be CHEAPER?
Nope.
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:24 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
Erm, I bet Tesco/PC World buy a shedload more machines than Linux
Emporium could ever do and so will get much better volume discounts
on
the hardware even before you take into consideration the crapware
kickbacks I mentioned above.
On 17 January 2011 10:45, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
On 17 January 2011 10:24, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:
Erm, I bet Tesco/PC World buy a shedload more machines than Linux Emporium
could ever do and so will get much better volume discounts on the hardware
even
On 17 January 2011 10:59, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote:
Less taxes, oh and paying the person who's installing Linux. And the HR
person who's making sure they're doing everything right by the person. And
electricity, to, you know, keep the building running while they're doing the
On 17 January 2011 10:45, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
So why don't Linux Emporium, then, simply go to PC World, negotiate a deal
for multiple PCs (50 £299 machines I am sure they'd give them for £200 or
thereabouts, maybe £250 at a pinch) and then merely install Ubuntu and put
the
On 17 January 2011 11:05, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
On 17 January 2011 10:59, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote:
Less taxes, oh and paying the person who's installing Linux. And the HR
person who's making sure they're doing everything right by the person. And
electricity, to, you
On 17 January 2011 11:15, Andy Braben andybra...@gmail.com wrote:
Advertising has certainly been missed which is expensive. And also who
would buy these products? Members on this list might, but as most people
know nothing different to Microsoft and even if they do, don't want it. It
is not
I think I have an answer for that (at least from what I remember from
economics 101). Or at least one of the below should be right
When there is little demand things get more expensive.
It's cheaper to batch install on computers that where fabricated to be used
with windows. I don't think there
On 17 January 2011 11:23, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
On 17 January 2011 11:15, Andy Braben andybra...@gmail.com wrote:
Advertising has certainly been missed which is expensive. And also who
would buy these products? Members on this list might, but as most people
know nothing
On 17 January 2011 11:34, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:
It's more likely that they would have a deal with a maker of white label
laptops in China or Taiwan. It's not easy to build laptops from components.
In which case there is something amiss, is there not?
Because they could
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 11:41 +, Sean Miller wrote:
In which case there is something amiss, is there not?
Because they could buy a laptop retail from PC World for £299 by
simply walking in, spend 5 minutes restoring a disc image and then
sell at £399, £450 or whatever they do with a
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 11:40 +, Dave Hanson wrote:
It was this model - http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimus/
I bought my desktop from pcspecialist. I bought it with no OS - they
are happy for that. They will not pre-install Ubuntu, but obviously
know a lot about it and are far
I got my current laptop from Linux Emporium (a Lenovo N500), and I'm
quite happy with it (apart from the BIOS-level fact that it tests the CD
drive three times during every startup, which is a noisy and irritating
waste of time). But after eight months or something I suffered a general
On 17/01/11 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
Interesting story, £98 PCs target UK digital divide. The cheap computers will
run open-source software, such as Linux...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12205412
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I will be bold enough to propose a summary in this situation, having
read this thread to date. Tin underpants on.
1) The good guys do not always win.
2) If you want to support your beliefs, it might cost money. Freedom
might not come cheap? Ok, if not, then buy with the mass market
On 17/01/11 13:00, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
what we need is 'naked computer' suppliers,
since we are better off installing our own Ubuntu systems from Live CDs
and if we are completely computer-less we can get Live CDs ready-made.
I am heartily with you on this. But we need a little more don't
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:08:23 +
alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
On 17/01/11 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium
On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about personalized attention when
installing if I am going to save £100 on the retail cost of the laptop... it
will presumably work out of the box... where I might need the support is
later
If you are happy to
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, Yorvyk wrote:
I'm surprised http://www.system76.com/ haven't been mentioned, unless I've
missed it .
I thought they were USA only; am I wrong?
Regards,Barry.
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On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, alan c wrote:
If low cost is very important, then, yes, ethical decisions become
difficult.
When I bought my Dell Mini 10v last year, pre-loaded with Ubuntu, cost
was a factor, but ethical considerations were met as well. It's been
fine so far, except for
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:15 +, Alan Pope wrote:
They ship to the UK now.
Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1
Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
cost of the netbook!!!
Regards,Barry.
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On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1
Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
cost of the netbook!!!
I didn't say it was value for money :)
I have often pondered setting
On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1
Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
cost of the netbook!!!
I
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
Likewise. I even contemplated refurbishing old computers with a
lightweight Ubuntu-based distro but the margin would have to be based
on providing support, which could be made to work for small companies
and charities and the like, but
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:20 +, Barry Titterton wrote:
The French government has decided that a machine using linux is not a
proper computer.
http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1847news=tablet+archos
+windows+french+france
You can always rely on the French for a good
On 17 January 2011 14:56, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
Ed Bernard at http://www.elpatech.co.uk sells his Ubuntu computers for
the same price as his barebones ones. He says that giving support to
his Windows PC's costs him far more than supporting Ubuntu! Especially
since the
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org
wrote:
Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A
10.1
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 21:19 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 19:18 +, d...@fishms.org wrote:
Hi
Do we need to bring extension leads etc?
Good point! I'll bring one just in case and a patch cable or two.
Bruno
I can bring a strip or two, patch cables and
On 17 January 2011 15:24, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
Just went through the process and looked at the
On 17 January 2011 13:41, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about personalized attention when
installing if I am going to save £100 on the retail cost of the laptop...
it
will presumably work out of the
On 17 January 2011 16:21, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
On 17 January 2011 13:41, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about personalized attention
when
installing if I am going to save £100 on the
Help needed. We've commenced a wiki on the Ubuntu Advertising site to
try to meet as many Windows users questions about compatibility as
possible. Please take a look at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsCompatibility and consider adding your
vast knowledgebase.
Thanks. Barry.
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On 17/01/11 17:07, Kris Douglas wrote:
There's always the option where you don't accept the Microsoft EULA
and get your money back for the install on the machine.
I believe that option no longer exists. But I would be delighted to be
found wrong!
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On 17/01/11 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
I have often pondered setting up a cottage business buying naked
laptops and ubuntifying them, but can't see there's a huge margin in
it, but there's the potential to get sucked into very long protracted
support conversations, negating any profit made.
I
From experience, the pcspecialists machines work faultlessly with Ubuntu.
Just fyi, You do need to use a proprietary wifi driver though.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD running Android
On 16 Jan 2011 17:40, George Tripp luggeo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Up to now I've put Ubuntu on ancient PCs I already
I'm organising an open day on Feb 23 for groups/SEs who work with
non-profits in East London providing or advising on Free Software -
it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone would
like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or presentation
for non-techies, let
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:55 +, gazz wrote:
it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone
would like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or
presentation for non-techies, let me know :)
I'm quite interested and free that day. Please tell me the start and
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:53 +, Barry Drake wrote:
I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
thought they were a tad expensive. Is their stuff higher spec than your
average Computer World items?
Regards, Barry Drake.
I went to them because
On 17 January 2011 19:09, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
sustainability (ie without going bust or dying of exhaustion and
malnutrition). It's just the same as paying more for fair trade goods.
People complain that Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't taste
like wax and cotton wool and
Sean all:
New article came in today via twitter: might be of interest
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/395861:get-the-most-out-of-your-laptop-using-linux?utm_medium=twitterutm_source=twitterfeed
guess nothing we didn't know but just in case.
Quite like the fairtrade comparison. Thanks
- Original message -
On 17 January 2011 19:09, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
sustainability (ie without going bust or dying of exhaustion and
malnutrition). It's just the same as paying more for fair trade goods.
People complain that Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't
On 17 January 2011 21:29, Paula pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
Sorry, you'd think I'd have more sense about what I post to this kind of
list by now ;) Withdrawn!
this kind of list??!?!
Sean
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On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:55 +, gazz wrote:
it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone
would like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or
presentation for non-techies, let me know :)
I'm quite interested and free
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 06:59 +, Barry Titterton wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:36 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
That's the good thing about being a contractor: it's easy to take 1/2
day off, you just fill in 0 in the time sheet (although doing that too
often may be detrimental to your
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:39 +, Alan Pope wrote:
On 16 January 2011 22:36, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
Mmm... yes, good point. My equipment is not PAT tested and is more than
12 months old. Is it a requirement of all equipment we bring to the
expo?
No. We have never been
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:33 +, Jon Farmer wrote:
On 17 January 2011 13:29, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
Unfortunately the 'L' word is not always very good news in a situation like
that. A lot of publicity about some users not being able to play their games
or whatever.
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 22:28 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
Indeed. Also bear in mind that this is meant for people who have never
used a PC in their lives so they may have a lot less pre-conceptions
about what should be running on the PC than the average user.
That is both profound and ought to
Hello,
I've been looking for this for some time but I think I'm not doing the
right word search in google. I don't even know how to report it if it's
a bug... might not even be an OS problem so sorry.
I have an ubuntu netbook 10.04 acer aspire one zg5 (same as AO110 I
think but with SSD).
I
On 17 January 2011 22:38, andres andre...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've been looking for this for some time but I think I'm not doing the
right word search in google. I don't even know how to report it if it's
a bug... might not even be an OS problem so sorry.
I have an ubuntu netbook 10.04
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:58 +, Sean Miller wrote:
On 17 January 2011 09:53, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past
experience I can
recommend
As a lubuntu user, I think you may want to mention that you do not need so
high a spec of computer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#System
requirements which is pretty much any win98 computer. But it is not for me
start confusing the issue, I have no problems with my web-cam on
On 17/01/11 23:26, Phill Whiteside wrote:
As a lubuntu user,
LooBuntu, that's a new one on me, does it specialise in toilet humour?
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On 17/01/11 19:09, gazz wrote:
(subject re fair trade, ethics, etc)
People complain that
Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't taste like wax and cotton
wool and (b) the employees are being relatively decently treated.
Yes, and also they ar ea bit more forthcoming about the
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