Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Kris Douglas
Damnit that is similar to my idea, I was going to send him a shiny Windows disk full of viruses to blow up his pc... oh, it seems that's been coming as default since Windows 3.11 for crappy RM workstations. Sent from my Android powered HTC Hero. On 26 Aug 2010 23:08, Jacob Mansfield

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Jacob Mansfield
hey I could always send them my MEMORY STICK OF DEATH On 27 August 2010 09:20, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: Damnit that is similar to my idea, I was going to send him a shiny Windows disk full of viruses to blow up his pc... oh, it seems that's been coming as default since

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Sean Miller
Well, assuming that we are not seriously going to blow up any machines... I wonder how Research Machines managed to become nothing more than Windows enforcers? When I was at school we had the classic RML-380Z For those who are too young to remember, there's a contemporary review here...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread alan c
On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: Express your views to the Royal Society soon. http://royalsociety.org/Education-Policy/Projects/ I am a bit perplexed. There have been approximately 20 entries in this thread so far, and I do not recall any single one person saying they will contact the Royal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 27/08/10 09:27, Sean Miller wrote: Well, assuming that we are not seriously going to blow up any machines... I wonder how Research Machines managed to become nothing more than Windows enforcers? When I was at school we had the classic RML-380Z For those who are too young to remember,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Bell
thanks for this, I will pass it on to the http://opensourceschools.org.uk community and might have a go at responding myself. Alan. On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Jacob Mansfield
will the RS rm -r rm? On 27 August 2010 09:32, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: Express your views to the Royal Society soon. http://royalsociety.org/Education-Policy/Projects/ I am a bit perplexed. There have been approximately 20 entries in this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:32 +0100, alan c wrote: PLEASE make your own contact with the RS in this matter, after all they *are* asking! Done that! But considering some of the information I've gained from other replies (eg RM) I can't help wondering what a survey will accomplish. Do the RS have

[ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread alan c
or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ 'exam results have shown computing subjects are failing to grab kids' attention'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Miller
Personally, I think that half the reason people find computers boring these days is that there isn't the mystique about them that there was when I was growing up (the 80s)... you had a BBC Micro, your mate had a Commodore 64... you argued about which was the better computer and you programmed

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Dianne Reuby
Perhaps they haven't looked at the GCSE curriculum - I've been a computer-holic for almost 40 years, and it sent me into a coma of boredom! Also, most experts or enthusiasts I think still prefer to do IT rather than teach it. My daughter had 5 IT teachers in one year - one took their coursework

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread David Jones
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:16 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: Personally, I think that half the reason people find computers boring these days is that there isn't the mystique about them that there was when I was growing up (the 80s)... you had a BBC Micro, your mate had a Commodore 64... you argued

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ 'exam results have shown

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Matt Sturdy
On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Dan Attwood
IT should be more about computers less about office work! Increasingly the stance is that IT functional skill should be embedded across all lessons. Therefore part of say GCSE Biology would be to create a report using word with tables, footnotes for references etc. Hopefully this will free

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
GCSE IT must always be done the boring and monotonous way, instead of the fun and interesting way that the markers can't be bothered to learn it properly On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: or nearly that,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Sewell
Further to the other replies... I've had a look through the KS3 and the KS4 curricula and, in my opinion, there's nothing in there that is necessarily bad. So if it isn't the subject itself that's turning people away, perhaps it is the people who teach it. In my experience, all too often a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Tansom
** Matt Sturdy matt.stu...@gmail.com [2010-08-26 09:50]: On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: snip My experience of GCSE IT was that it was This is Microsoft Word, write a 2 page document including a table, a graphic and a footnote. which is _not_ what IT

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Craig Peden
As a student in Scotland currently studying Computing, I can safely say that computing is well subscribed to up here. However, for personally there are some turn offs. When I am older I would like to be a programmer, but we are taught visual basic. I realise that it is an easy language but I want

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
apparently A lever IT is better, I'll find out in a year On 26 August 2010 12:48, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: ** Matt Sturdy matt.stu...@gmail.com [2010-08-26 09:50]: On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: snip My experience of GCSE IT was that it was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread alan c
Dianne Your real experiences may be key to the Royal Society's investigation, I do hope you can seriously consider contributing. if nothing else, almost a straight copy and paste of what you are saying here is information which paints a valuable picture to them. And they may be getting very

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread alan c
On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ 'exam results have shown computing subjects are

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Douglas
On 26 August 2010 18:33, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and RM is a TOTAL NIGHTMARE. They dictate to schools what software they can or can't use - any software has to be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Douglas
On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:  On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and RM is a TOTAL NIGHTMARE. They dictate to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
when I was in primary school I made plans to send a large bomb to RM On 26 August 2010 22:31, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 22:45, Jacob Mansfield wrote: when I was in primary school I made plans to send a large bomb to RM Pity you didn't do it - I'm sure that schools IT would be in a FAR better state if you had! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Sewell
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:31:35 +0100 Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I still could, I just need to run sudo apt-get nitroglycerine sudo apt-get install timer tar bomb package sendmail bomb b...@rm.shithead.iddiot from s...@google.xxx can't wait for it---^^^ On 26 August 2010 22:55, Grant Sewell