[ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-06 Thread Matthew East
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Andy: > Although it has been requested that the subject of forums be dropped, > I was thinking (yes dangerous I know), is it possible to build a forum > style front end onto mailman? It already holds archives of every > message made to the list. If

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-05 Thread Matthew East
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, * Alan Pope: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:45:12PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: >> I've no problem with Nik leading the group, however perhaps there should >> be a more formal voting system so we don't actually leave anyone out? >> [dont know what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-05 Thread Mike Preston
Sean Miller wrote: > Ian wrote: > You might find that VMWare is a good way to experiment with Ubuntu > whilst still running windows... you can download a free 30-day-trial of > it from their website... you could then have Ubuntu in a window and "get > to know it". > VMWare Server for windows

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-05 Thread Sean Miller
Ian wrote: > Yes I am trying to learn from Windows to use unbuntu on my second drive. > You might find that VMWare is a good way to experiment with Ubuntu whilst still running windows... you can download a free 30-day-trial of it from their website... you could then have Ubuntu in a window and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Ian
Yes I am trying to learn from Windows to use unbuntu on my second drive. ---Original Message--- From: Andy Date: 04/11/2006 23:19:30 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-UK] Uk Loco team forums On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Andy
On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have and its appalling bad taste in my language. Its was never my intention to offend anyone, I am really sorry that you feel you must leave an entire group because of me. I am unsure what you mean by 'bad taste'. sorry I have seen so much worse

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Ian
You have and its appalling bad taste in my language. ---Original Message--- From: Alan c Date: 04/11/2006 20:54:57 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-UK] Uk Loco team forums Ian wrote: > I could not see where to unsub? I think it is: ht

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Alan Pope
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 07:23:36PM +, Ian wrote: > I could not see where to unsub? > It would be a real shame if you did unsubscribe. Please reconsider. If you do decide that you want out of this place then you'll find the necessary instructions at the link below:- https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread alan c
Ian wrote: > I could not see where to unsub? I think it is: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk [...] > wouldn't want to inadvertently exclude anyone, that's not the Ubuntu > way. > > - Andy > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Nik Butler
END OF THREAD Guys Im drawing this whole sub-thread to a close . I would like not to have any responses to the above and I have emailed Ian with his answer. For the moment in as much as I can enforce the idea I suggest we will not be creating or using ubuntu forums for the Ubuntu-UK teams an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Ian
I could not see where to unsub?       ---Original Message---   From: Andy Date: 04/11/2006 13:03:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums   On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm new to this, It shows,   A little note abou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Ian
Then I am out of here, good bye! ---Original Message--- From: Andy Date: 04/11/2006 13:03:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-UK] Uk Loco team forums On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm new to this, It shows,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Nik Butler
Sean Miller wrote: > I don't understand why we're doing all this again... Nick put himself > forward many months ago and asked if anybody else was interested to > which he got no responses... so surely the request for candidates to > come forward has already been and gone and this is just wastin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Sean Miller
I don't understand why we're doing all this again... Nick put himself forward many months ago and asked if anybody else was interested to which he got no responses... so surely the request for candidates to come forward has already been and gone and this is just wasting time going through it al

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread alan c
Nik Butler wrote: > Pete Ryland wrote: >> On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk? >>> >> >> Are you putting your hand up for the job? :-) >> >> Perhaps we should have a vote? There are probably a few people who

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 06:56:21PM +, Tony Arnold wrote: >> Nik, >> >> Nicholas Butler wrote: >> >> > My personal preferences are to use the Mailing list, however if a Forum >> > exists I will make sure I drop in and keep an eye on it and let people >> > know about the ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread alan c
Andy wrote: > On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm new to this, > It shows, Is this in the spirit of Ubuntu? > A little note about mailing list etiquette. > We Please speak for yourself and do not include me. [...] > Someone somewhere has a great signature about top posting, I ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Dean Sas
Andy wrote: > On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm new to this, [netiquette stuff snipped] You could have phrased that a little nicer, "please" is a nice word. Immediately greeting new users in such a way is one of the reasons mailing lists are seen as off putting and elitist. It's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-04 Thread Andy
On 04/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm new to this, It shows, A little note about mailing list etiquette. We do not need you to tell us what font size we want to view your message in, we are perfectly capable of adjusting our email software to a size that is comfortable. This means don'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Ian
itish Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums   On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 12:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I fully support the creation of an Ubuntu -UK forum. It will increase > > the people involved in Ubuntu-UK tenfold. > > > > Caroline > > My

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Dean Sas
Dominic Forrest wrote: >> >> I've no problem with Nik leading the group, however perhaps there should >> be a more formal voting system so we don't actually leave anyone out? >> [dont know what or how] >> > Now if we have forums we could set up a vote ;-) We already have that facility anyway - h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Ryland
On 03/11/06, Nik Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had kinda of assumed that I was taking on the role since Id asked at > the start and was taking on the responsiblity of trying to get the UK > Team Approved ? Apologies, I must have missed that mail. By all means, that would be fine by me. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:45:12PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: > I've no problem with Nik leading the group, however perhaps there should > be a more formal voting system so we don't actually leave anyone out? > [dont know what or how] > Of course the obvious question is "how do the other loco t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Dominic Forrest
Now if we have forums we could set up a vote ;-) Dom Paul Mellors wrote: Tony Arnold wrote: Pete, Pete Ryland wrote: On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Nik Butler
> I've no problem with Nik leading the group, however perhaps there should > thank you . > be a more formal voting system so we don't actually leave anyone out? > Im open to this , I would have thought that we would need to set a term limit and id like to incorporate some elements of a b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Paul Mellors
Tony Arnold wrote: > Pete, > > Pete Ryland wrote: >> On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk? >> Are you putting your hand up for the job? :-) >> >> Perhaps we should have a vote? There are probably a few people who >> wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 06:56:21PM +, Tony Arnold wrote: > Nik, > > Nicholas Butler wrote: > > > My personal preferences are to use the Mailing list, however if a Forum > > exists I will make sure I drop in and keep an eye on it and let people > > know about the mailing list and the archvie

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Tony Arnold
Nik, Nicholas Butler wrote: > My personal preferences are to use the Mailing list, however if a Forum > exists I will make sure I drop in and keep an eye on it and let people > know about the mailing list and the archvies and the thriving > communication we have here as well as the IRC Channel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Tony Arnold
Pete, Pete Ryland wrote: > On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk? > > Are you putting your hand up for the job? :-) > > Perhaps we should have a vote? There are probably a few people who > would like this title. Nik B

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Nik Butler
Pete Ryland wrote: > On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk? >> > > Are you putting your hand up for the job? :-) > > Perhaps we should have a vote? There are probably a few people who > would like this title. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Pete Ryland
On 03/11/06, Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also is there anyone who has assumed the lead of ubuntu-uk? Are you putting your hand up for the job? :-) Perhaps we should have a vote? There are probably a few people who would like this title. Pete -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https:/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Joseph Price
I'm glad to see some positive feedback! :D About the users of ubuntuforums.org, as of writing, there are 188,524 registered users, 442 members and 1888 guests online. I'm sure adding a link in my signature would definitely draw quite a bit of attention to it. How is the website coming along btw?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread paul
> The traffic on the official forums is massive, and we are talking about > a sub forum of that. > > Caroline In that case i'll shut up ;) Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread alan c
Nicholas Butler wrote: > Joseph, > > Thanks for the offer and I can clearly see there is a very robust set of > positions regarding Forums usage. I know we had this conversation before > and felt at the time the Maillist suited the assemblage of current > Ubuntu UK Team members. However in the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Caroline Ford
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 12:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I fully support the creation of an Ubuntu -UK forum. It will increase > > the people involved in Ubuntu-UK tenfold. > > > > Caroline > > My experience with forums, is that you create them and no one uses > them, My LUG had one and n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 11/3/06, Nicholas Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph, > > Thanks for the offer and I can clearly see there is a very robust set of > positions regarding Forums usage. I know we had this conversation before > and felt at the time the Maillist suited the assemblage of current > Ubuntu UK T

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread paul
> I fully support the creation of an Ubuntu -UK forum. It will increase > the people involved in Ubuntu-UK tenfold. > > Caroline My experience with forums, is that you create them and no one uses them, My LUG had one and no one liked the change from mailing list to forums so it never got used

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Caroline Ford
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 12:15 +, Nicholas Butler wrote: > My personal preferences are to use the Mailing list, however if a Forum > exists I will make sure I drop in and keep an eye on it and let people > know about the mailing list and the archvies and the thriving > communication we have he

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Nicholas Butler
Joseph, Thanks for the offer and I can clearly see there is a very robust set of positions regarding Forums usage. I know we had this conversation before and felt at the time the Maillist suited the assemblage of current Ubuntu UK Team members. However in the strictest sense of any community p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Joseph Price
Forums would NOT be a replacement for this mailing list. Just look at ubuntuforums.org the ubuntu mailing lists, launchpad, wikis etc. I'll contact ubuntu-geek and enquire about the possibility of integration with the mailing list. A big reason I'm wanting forums for the UK loco team is because

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-03 Thread Matthew East
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Joseph Price: > I've just seen this annoucement: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290685 > > I remember lots of discussion which just petered out about whether its a > good idea. > > This could be a very quick and easy way for us to get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:34:04PM +, Andy wrote: >> On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > You can't choose which client you read the content in. >> >> If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose >> which browser you use. >> > > Er

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:34:04PM +, Andy wrote: > On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can't choose which client you read the content in. > > If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose > which browser you use. > Er, that makes absolutely no di

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Andy
On 02/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can't choose which client you read the content in. If we are defining the client as the web browser then you can choose which browser you use. > You can't cache it offline easily. can't wget spider a site? of course re downloading a page b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:08:04PM +, Joseph Price wrote: > In my opinion a forum IS a mailing list, with your browser being your > email client. > O no it isn't You can't sort threads in forums. You can't delete stuff you've read. You can't choose which client you read the content in. Y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Joseph Price
By the way i forgot to mention that ubuntuforums.org ARE the official ubuntu forums. We haven't been unofficial for a while :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Joseph Price
The forums domain would be in the form: <>.ubuntuforums.org ubuntuforums.org does have mailing list integration for ubuntu-users and I could enquire about whether this could be a possibility for us? vbulletin is proprietory... but it's what works best for us. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.ph

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 11/2/06, Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eamonn, > > Im not sure that you've really missed anything. My mail did imply a decision > had been made, which I don't think it has. No, that's fine. Wasn't criticising, I was just honestly asking. I jump in and out of the list when I have tim

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Kenny Holden
Eamonn, Im not sure that you've really missed anything. My mail did imply a decision had been made, which I don't think it has. However I do think it is a good way for new users to use as a resource. I believe the list is good for people interested in getting involved in ubuntu-uk (im not sugges

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 11/2/06, Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be > happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. > > I also agree with Daniel, regarding the use of a proprietry system being > counter productive to the m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread paul
Quoting Kenny Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be > happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. > > I would like to offer my services tooI can also provide web hosting if needed... Cheers Paul -- ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-02 Thread Kenny Holden
Hi All, I think it would be great to have a ubuntu-uk forum, and I would also be happy to volunteer my services in forum moderation. I also agree with Daniel, regarding the use of a proprietry system being counter productive to the message we are spreading. However, whilst Ubuntu links to it as i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-01 Thread alan c
Joseph Price wrote: > Hey there... i'm PriceChild, a moderator from ubuntuforums.org if you > know of me... > > I've just seen this annoucement: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290685 > > I remember lots of discussion which just petered out about whether its a > good idea. > > This co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-01 Thread Daniel Taylor
Hey, My biggest issue with the Ubuntu forums overall is this: "vBulletin Version 3.6.2. ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. " vBulletin is a proprietary project and as such I tend to avoided the use of the Ubuntu forums on the basis that its not good advertising for the ideals behind Ubuntu i

[ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

2006-11-01 Thread Joseph Price
Hey there... i'm PriceChild, a moderator from ubuntuforums.org if you know of me... I've just seen this annoucement: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290685 I remember lots of discussion which just petered out about whether its a good idea. This could be a very quick and easy way for us