Michel Suignard, Thu, 12 Dec 2013 02:54:37 +:
Given that the standard is widely adaptable, just means that U+0554
is *also* usable in western styles, without being restricted to the
Cyrillic script, even if the character is encoded in a Cyrcillic
block.
Could everyone stop using
Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes explained it
once and for all?
Leo
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:42 AM, d...@bisharat.net wrote:
FWIW, a blog post prompted by discussions in the wake of a DejaVu font use
of N-form over n-form capital ŋ (eng or engma):
The 'eng'
No, this links only explains that variants are possible, expected, even
desirable, as long as they do not disrupt the languages with which these
variants are used os they cause confusion.
But before thinking about disunifying the ENG/eng pair for these variants,
we need to find convincing opposed
However you should have noted that this link just explains why the charts
cannot represent all possible shapes of a character. It exposes some cases
(here we are in a situation exactly similar to the variant shapes of italic
Cyrillic letter pe, with prefered form very different between russian and
Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote:
I’m already on it.
Excellent.
Would it be possible please for encoding to include specific official guidance,
going back to a source with provenance, as to whether a glyph for the symbol in
a serif font should or should not have serifs?
William
In my opinion, this is going too far for the UTC. Such guidance can only
come from Russian authorities for the application of its law, where it is
relevant to apply it. Even for the Euro, there's ample variations allowed
in Unicode, that does not affect conformance, even if there may be further
On 12/12/13 15:14, William_J_G Overington wrote:
Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote:
I’m already on it.
Excellent.
Would it be possible please for encoding to include specific official guidance,
going back to a source with provenance, as to whether a glyph for the symbol in
a serif
Hi Don,
Rick, Will the existing mail archives be maintained? At same location?
This is a good question.
The current archives are actively manufactured by Hypermail, and unless
something goes terribly wrong, the archiving system will continue to
work for now. There will be new Mailman
Le 2013-12-12 à 13:42, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com a écrit :
The Euro was the first currency symbol added which was presented to the world
as a logo.
In the context of encoding the character, the UTC and WG2 (quite correctly)
at the time made clear that what was being encoded was a
On 12 Dec 2013, at 15:29, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote:
Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes explained it
once and for all?
No, because users of N-shaped capital Eng consider n-shaped capital Eng to be
*WRONG*, not an acceptable variant. And because n-shaped
Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure you
that from any literate Russian-speaking person's perspective italic ū is an
unacceptable and *WRONG* representation of п (because in Russian, unlike
Serbian, there is й). Should we bother disunifying?
The fact that the
On 12/12/2013 2:25 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote:
Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure
you that from any literate Russian-speaking person's perspective
italic ū is an unacceptable and *WRONG* representation of п (because
in Russian, unlike Serbian, there is й). Should
In the case of ɖ vs ð vs đ, there are three different letters, as follows
from their names, that happen to have identical capital glyphs (those
you've mentioned plus U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE).
Speaking of đ, an alternate glyph with the stroke through the bowl is used
in
On 12/12/2013 3:10 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote:
In the case of ɖ vs ð vs đ, there are three different letters, as
follows from their names, that happen to have identical capital glyphs
(those you've mentioned plus U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE).
Speaking of đ, an alternate glyph with
On 12 Dec 2013, at 22:25, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote:
Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure you that
from any literate Russian-speaking person's perspective italic ū is an
unacceptable and *WRONG* representation of п (because in Russian, unlike
Italic is not plain text.
Is this the only thing that would have stopped you from advocating
disunification?
Yeah. To heck with the end user and their pathetic preferences.
Is a preference to have traditional and simplified CJK characters
disunified more or less pathetic (and why) than the
ISO/IEC 8859-15 was done in parallel (formally in SC2/WG3).
Sincerely, Erkki
Lähettäjä: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org]
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Lähetetty: 13. joulukuuta 2013 00:00
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On 12/12/2013 6:38 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote:
Italic is not plain text.
Is this the only thing that would have stopped you from advocating
disunification?
Yeah. To heck with the end user and their pathetic preferences.
Is a preference to have traditional and simplified CJK characters
On 12/12/2013 9:32 PM, Erkki I Kolehmainen wrote:
ISO/IEC 8859-15 was done in parallel (formally in SC2/WG3).
As many experts from WG3 took part in WG2 meetings a common stance is
not surprising and, instead, deliberate.
A./
Sincerely, Erkki
*Lähettäjä:*unicode-bou...@unicode.org
Le 12/12/13 23:06, Michael Everson a écrit :
On 12 Dec 2013, at 15:29, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote:
Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes
explained it once and for all?
No, because users of N-shaped capital Eng consider n-shaped capital
Eng to be *WRONG*, not an
Le 13/12/13 00:10, Leo Broukhis a écrit :
In the case of ɖ vs ð vs đ, there are three different letters, as
follows from their names, that happen to have identical capital glyphs
(those you've mentioned plus U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE).
Speaking of đ, an alternate glyph with
Le 13/12/13 03:24, Michael Everson a écrit :
On 12 Dec 2013, at 22:25, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote:
Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure
you that from any literate Russian-speaking person's perspective
italic ū is an unacceptable and *WRONG*
Le 13/12/13 00:10, Leo Broukhis a écrit :
In the case of ɖ vs ð vs đ, there are three different letters, as
follows from their names, that happen to have identical capital glyphs
(those you've mentioned plus U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE).
Speaking of đ, an alternate glyph with
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote:
On 12 Dec 2013, at 15:29, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote:
Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes explained it
once and for all?
No, because users of N-shaped capital Eng consider
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