Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was Re: Thoughts on Emoji Selection Process)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:35 AM, William_J_G Overington via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > I decided that trying to design emoji for 'I' and for 'You' seemed > interesting so I decided to have a go at designing some. > Why don't we just encode Blissymbolics, where pronouns are already

Re: IBM 1620 invalid character symbol

ly also be > represented as the sequence <0058, 20D2>, just to represent the data. > > --Ken > > On 9/25/2017 11:34 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: > > If it was implemented as an overprint, either )^H|^H( or \^H|^H/ and was > intended to signify an invalid character > (for ex

Re: IBM 1620 invalid character symbol

ot;Also an early IBM invalid character symbol". > - Karl > > -- > Am Dienstag, 26. September 2017 um 06:48 schrieb Leo Broukhis via Unicode: > > >> Wikipedia > >> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1620#Invalid_character) > >> describes the &qu

Re: IBM 1620 invalid character symbol

racter set. But to verify exactly what was going on, > somebody would presumably have to examine the physical keys of a 1620 > console typewriter to see what they could generate on paper. > > I'm guessing the Computer History Museum ( http://www.computerhistory.org/ > ) would have

Re: IBM 1620 invalid character symbol

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Magnus Bodin ☀ wrote: > It's like if IBM invented the tofu of some sort. > Right. The question is, can it be considered a glyph variation of U+? On a tangent: graphically, the closest glyph which is not a letter appears to be  U+1F74F

IBM 1620 invalid character symbol

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1620#Invalid_character) describes the "invalid character" symbol (see attachment) as a Cyrillic Ж which it obviously is not. But what is it? Does it deserve encoding, or is it a glyph variation of an existing codepoint? The question is somewhat

Re: Encoding of old compatibility characters

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Asmus Freytag wrote: > On 3/28/2017 4:00 AM, Ian Clifton wrote: > > I’ve used ⏨ a couple of times, without explanation, in my own > emails—without, as far as I’m aware, causing any misunderstanding. > > Works especially well, whenever it

Re: a character for an unknown character

You may want to consider U+2370 APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL QUAD QUESTION. Leo On Dec 22, 2016 15:35, "Martin Mueller" wrote: These are very handsome and interesting. But for the purposes of my project, which involves folks here, there, and everywhere working on

Re: I'm excited about the proposal to add a brontosaurus emoji codepoint

It's new. Let's not tell Randall about the "completing the set" argument. Leo On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: > "I'm excited about the proposal to add a brontosaurus emoji codepoint > because it has the potential to bring together a half-dozen

Re: combining marks for currency characters? general combining character?

Hi Kim, While it can be argued that the "NON-DESTRUCTIVE BACKSPACE" capability of a typewriter, allowing arbitrary overstruck characters, belongs to plain text, it is more akin to creating subscripts and superscripts by rotating the platen knob up or down by half-interval, which Unicode considers

Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?

For a previous discussion on the topic, please see the thread "Missing geometric shapes" around 11/12/12 Leo On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Ken Shirriff wrote: > Half-stars are used all over the place for reviews and many people have > expressed interest in a Unicode

Re: non-breaking snakes

Also, or rather foremost, to U+2766 ❦ FLORAL HEART ❦ - what does the (almost) connecting vine remind me of? Hmmm... Leo 2016-05-06 21:54 GMT-07:00 António Martins-Tuválkin : > On 2016.05.04 07:54, Julian Bradfield wrote: > > See http://xkcd.com/1676/ >> (making sure to

Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

uous. Leo On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Doug Ewell <d...@ewellic.org> wrote: > On February 8, Leo Broukhis wrote: > > > This is clearly an incomplete set. It makes sense to have a generic > > "enclosing banknote" emoji character which, when combined with a > &

Re: Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

be <$> + U+FE0F VS16 > > Chris > > > Leo Broukhis schreef op 2016-03-01 19:10: > > I have a less disruptive proposal than to encode an unprecedented > combining emoji. > How about adding variation sequences + U+FE0F VS16 to > signify BANKNOTE with ? > >

Re: Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

w in ~90M Egyptians. > > --Jörg Knappen > > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 09. Februar 2016 um 23:46 Uhr > *Von:* "Leo Broukhis" <l...@mailcom.com> > *An:* "Mark Davis ☕️" <m...@macchiato.com> > *Cc:* "unicode Unicode Discussion" <unicode@unicode.

"I love you" hand gesture emoji?

Not that I need it a lot, but I'm curious if an emoji for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILY_sign has ever been requested. Leo

Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

/emojitracker.com/ > > Mark > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Leo Broukhis <l...@mailcom.com> wrote: > >> There are >> >>  U+01F4B4 Banknote With Yen Sign >>  U+01F4B5 Banknote With Dollar Sign >>  U+01F4B6 Banknote With Euro Sign >> 

Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

A caveat about using emojitracker.com : it doesn't count newer emoji yet (e.g. U+1F37E bottle with popping cork is absent), thus, when they are added, their counts will be skewed. Leo On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Leo Broukhis <l...@mailcom.com> wrote: > Thank you for the lin

Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

be the eyes-rolling > face). > > Mark > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Leo Broukhis <l...@mailcom.com> wrote: > >> A caveat about using emojitracker.com : it doesn't count newer emoji yet >> (e.g. U+1F37E bottle with popping cork is absent), thus, when they ar

Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

There are  U+01F4B4 Banknote With Yen Sign  U+01F4B5 Banknote With Dollar Sign  U+01F4B6 Banknote With Euro Sign  U+01F4B7 Banknote With Pound Sign This is clearly an incomplete set. It makes sense to have a generic "enclosing banknote" emoji character which, when combined with a currency

Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

E WITH RIAL SIGN in a much more positive > light than one for a COMBINING BANKNOTE. > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Leo Broukhis <l...@mailcom.com> wrote: > >> There are >> >>  U+01F4B4 Banknote With Yen Sign >>  U+01F4B5 Banknote With Dollar Sign

Re: Additional adoption form on codepoints.net

As far as I'm concerned, the pop-up contents should end with the link "Read more about codepoint adoption." In your brief description, you might want to add a proviso about the temporary nature of character adoption. Submitting forms to a 3rd party site is a bad idea. Leo On Thu, Dec 17, 2015

Re: Additional adoption form on codepoints.net

By "should end with the link" I implied "should not contain anything that followed it at the time of my comment, including the form and the - thus obviated - disclaimer. :) If submitting a form to a 3rd party site results in an error for any reason, the error will be displayed by the target

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

This prompts a question: for case conversion bijectivity in fr_FR locale, should there be "invisible accents"? E.g. déjà -> DE(combining invisible acute accent)JA(combining invisible grave accent) -> déjà whereas in fr_CA locale, it is simply déjà -> DÉJÀ -> déjà Leo On Wed, Dec 9,

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

29, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Marcel Schneider <charupd...@orange.fr> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:25:52 +0100, Philippe Verdy" <verd...@wanadoo.fr> > wrote: > >> 2015-10-29 9:29 GMT+01:00 Marcel Schneider <charupd...@orange.fr>: >> >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015

Re: Latin glottal stop in ID in NWT, Canada

Along the same lines, should I be able to change my last name officially to Ƃpyxᴎc? (NB all letters are codepoints with names starting with "LATIN"). On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Marcel Schneider wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +, Denis Jacquerye

Re: APL Under-bar Characters

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Information-Technology/PUA.html On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, alexwei...@alexweiner.com wrote: PUA? Original Message Subject: RE: APL Under-bar Characters From: Erkki I Kolehmainen e...@iki.fi Date: Aug 18, 2015 6:55 AM To: 'Marcel

Re: Emoji characters for food allergens

The discussion widens: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/08/02/2248257/unicode-consortium-looks-at-symbols-for-allergies

Re: Olympic sports emoji

Fonts vary and can be copyrighted, no doubt, but Unicode is not about fonts. Leo On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Garth Wallace gwalla at gmail dot com wrote: I read this proposal [L2/15-196R] and was a little confused. Why aren't they proposing the actual

Re: PRI #299

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Leo Broukhis leob at mailcom dot com wrote: Most platforms display unknown printable characters as white rectangles with hex digits in them. In Doug's message, I saw a rectangle with 01F in the upper row, and 3F3 in the lower

Re: PRI #299 (was: Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode)

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Leo Broukhis leob at mailcom dot com wrote: What I don't like about PRI #399 is its proposing to use default- ignorable characters. On a non-vexillology-aware platform, I'd like to see something informative, albeit

Re: PRI #299

without squinting. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote: On 7/3/2015 9:14 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Leo Broukhis leob at mailcom dot com wrote: What I don't like about PRI #399 is its

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

vacation spot, Florida, and the friend sees a flag for New Jersey. Mark — Il meglio è l’inimico del bene — On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Why not add another 26 A-Z characters, call them regional supplementary symbols, and let carriers decide what

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

...@ewellic.org wrote: Leo Broukhis leob at mailcom dot com wrote: With extensible self-delimited regional indicator sequences the carriers will be able to come to an agreement and to petition Unicode to register them as named character sequences symbolizing flags not encoded by an ISO entity, like various

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

. Leo On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote: On 7/2/2015 12:33 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: If REGIONAL INDICATOR DASH and REGIONAL INDICATOR digits are added, along with regional supplementary symbols, then sequences RISRISRIDRSS*RIS can be parsed unambiguously

Re: UDHR in Unicode: 400 translations in text form!

Ukrainian is in Estonia, Estonian is in the Baltic sea. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Eric Muller eric.mul...@efele.net wrote: I am pleased to announce that the UDHR in Unicode project (http://unicode.org/udhr) has reached a notable milestone: we now have 400 translations of the Universal

Re: Another take on the English apostrophe in Unicode

word boundary. There is only one hyphen because no language (AFAIK) claims it as part of its alphabet. Leo On 7:01pm, Thu, Jun 4, 2015 Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Along the same lines, we might need a MODIFIER LETTER HYPHEN, because, for example, the work ack-ack isn't decomposable

Re: Another take on the English apostrophe in Unicode

, however, existence of the MODIFIER LETTER [same glyph as used for English contractions] in Unicode is a coincidence which should not have an effect on usage of apostrophes in English. Leo On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:58 PM, David Starner prosfil...@gmail.com wrote: On June 4, 2015, at 11:01 PM, Leo

Re: Another take on the English apostrophe in Unicode

Along the same lines, we might need a MODIFIER LETTER HYPHEN, because, for example, the work ack-ack isn't decomposable into words, or even morphemes, ack and ack. Leo On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:31 PM, David Starner prosfil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:38 PM Markus Scherer

Re: Tag characters and in-line graphics (from Tag characters)

The format that I am suggesting would allow the image for a non-standard emoji character to be included in a text message, with the image located at the correct place in the text. A more common occurrence is the need to include a non-standard character in a text message, be it a ski piste

Re: Bunny hill symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

Being used in maps and map legends is not a sufficient condition for encoding a symbol. If it were, all symbols used in physical maps would have been encoded, including each and every mineral and rare metal. Leo On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Shervin Afshar shervinafs...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Almost not a joke

plans for that? Thanks, Leo On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: In light of http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Faces_Hands_Zodiac mentioning, among other things, ZIPPER-MOUTH FACE MONEY-MOUTH FACE FACE WITH THERMOMETER NERD FACE THINKING FACE FACE

Almost not a joke

In light of http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Faces_Hands_Zodiac mentioning, among other things, ZIPPER-MOUTH FACE MONEY-MOUTH FACE FACE WITH THERMOMETER NERD FACE THINKING FACE FACE WITH ROLLING EYES UPSIDE-DOWN FACE FACE WITH HEAD-BANDAGE ROBOT FACE HUGGING FACE (some, like UPSIDE-DOWN FACE

Re: Plain text (from Re: Avoidance variants)

Exact semantics of formatting characters aside, it is best to define plain text as a stateless stream. The characters you're proposing require a decoder to keep state, therefore they won't do. TICAt most you may ask for *U+E1001 COMBINING ITALICIZER *U+E1003 COMBINING BOLDIFIER after all, we

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

Ken, zgrep U011D /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/* ANSI_X3.110-1983.gz:U011D /xc3/x67 LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JISX0213.gz:U011D /xaa/xe0 LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JP.gz:U011D /x8f/xab/xba LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JP-MS.gz:U011D

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

in 1986. That date, by the way, is earlier than anything I have firsthand records for. --Ken On 3/23/2015 10:10 AM, Leo Broukhis wrote: How come this character is in ISO-8859-3? IBM905? Leo ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http

Contrastive use of kratka and breve

Here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Contrastive_use_of_kratka_and_breve.JPG is an example of й and и + U+0306 COMBINING BREVE used contrastively (/j/ vs short /i/) thanks to a difference in typographic style of Cyrillic breve (kratka) and regular breve. For me in Win7 using и

Re: Contrastive use of kratka and breve

the canonically equivalent composition which could occur in many places. 2014-07-02 18:11 GMT+02:00 Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com: Here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Contrastive_use_of_kratka_and_breve.JPG is an example of й and и + U+0306 COMBINING BREVE used contrastively (/j

Re: Contrastive use of kratka and breve

K Den 2014-07-02 20:48, skrev Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com: Jukka, If the font happens to have lunar breve at U+0306, whereas the letter й has the rounded bowl breve, using CGJ should guarantee to achieve distinctive rendering, because и, CGJ, U+0306 is not canonically equivalent to и

Missing Nenets letters?

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/nenets.htm shows two letters (’ and ”) in both versions of the Cyrillic Nenets alphabet (voiced taser” and unvoiced taser”) that don't seem to be encoded as letters. Should they be encoded, or 2019 and 201D are good enough? Leo

Re: Missing Nenets letters?

Thank you, but how convenient! Calling a letter a modifier allows to avoid re-encoding the same shape in various alphabets. Leo On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jean-François Colson j...@colson.eu wrote: Le 02/07/14 22:33, Leo Broukhis a écrit : http://www.omniglot.com/writing/nenets.htm

Re: Contrastive use of kratka and breve

for that distinction. Leo On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:08:42 -0700 Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: The difference is real and intentional, but isn't it akin to the difference between (IIRC a discussion several

Re: Another Unicode viewing site

would have been much lighter. 2014/1/23 Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com I find http://unicode-table.com/ of which I cannot find a previous mention on the list, quite convenient (keep scrolling). Not all of Unicode 6.0 and 6.1 is there yet, though, as it is a hobby project of a multi-national

Another Unicode viewing site

I find http://unicode-table.com/ of which I cannot find a previous mention on the list, quite convenient (keep scrolling). Not all of Unicode 6.0 and 6.1 is there yet, though, as it is a hobby project of a multi-national team. Interface languages include English, German, Russian, Ukrainian,

Re: Engmagate?

Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes explained it once and for all? Leo On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:42 AM, d...@bisharat.net wrote: FWIW, a blog post prompted by discussions in the wake of a DejaVu font use of N-form over n-form capital ŋ (eng or engma): The 'eng'

Re: Engmagate?

wish they never do. Leo On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.comwrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 15:29, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Hasn't http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/#Variant_Shapes explained it once and for all? No, because users of N-shaped

Re: Engmagate?

, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 2:25 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure you that from any literate Russian-speaking person's perspective italic ū is an unacceptable and *WRONG* representation

Re: Engmagate?

the preference at hand? Leo On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.comwrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 22:25, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Hmmm... As a person with Russian as the first language I can assure you that from any literate Russian-speaking person's

The Ruble sign has been approved

The board of directors of the Central Bank of Russia has [finally] approved the de facto standard ruble sign. http://lenta.ru/news/2013/12/11/symbol/ Leo

Re: The Ruble sign has been approved

Thank you! Leo On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.comwrote: I’m already on it. On 11 Dec 2013, at 23:51, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: The board of directors of the Central Bank of Russia has [finally] approved the de facto standard ruble sign

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

Wow! ROFF-family languages are still being used? But again, IMO, this is beyond markup. In TeX \s{} and in groff .zs are subroutines. Leo On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Steffen Daode sdao...@gmail.com wrote: Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: |Using TeX: | | \def\s{${}^{\rm

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: Hi All, Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The Queen's English: a manual of idiom and usage (1888)* [ http://archive.org/details/queensenglishman00alfo] Is the way to indicate alternative s/z spellings used there plain text

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

To: Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion unicode@unicode.org Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200 Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: Hi All, Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The Queen's English

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

: Le 01/10/2013 12:20, Frédéric Grosshans a écrit : Le 01/10/2013 02:51, Leo Broukhis a écrit : Hi All, Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's */The Queen's English: a manual of idiom and usage/ (1888)* [http://archive.org/details/** queensenglishman00alfohttp://archive.org/details

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

and script size) pretty much makes it formated text to me. Regards, Khaled On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 10:19:24AM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: Khaled, On a typewriter, the same effect can be achieved as anathematihalf-interval upsBS1 interval downzhalf-interval upe Where would the line

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

khaledho...@eglug.org To: Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion unicode@unicode.org Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200 Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: Hi All, Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry

Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

mathvariant=romanz/mi/**math| (drop that in an HTML document and take a look). This doesn't look like plain text to me. I don't think it argues in favor of any sort of combining Z or general combinator mark. This is just what markup is for. ~mark On 10/01/2013 08:05 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote

Re: Empty set

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.comwrote: Anecdotally people in Germany always tell me of a mythical parenthesis-bracket-brace hierarchy { [ ( ) ] }, which I've never actually encountered, and btw even the hierarchy [ ( ) ] isn't used by everyone. I

Preconditions for changing a representative glyph?

In light of recent news about New York adopting a redesigned handicapped symbol http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2013/05/28/handicapped-symbol-facelift/18034/ http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/05/revamped-handicapped-icons-coming-to-new-york-city.html and the new signs starting to appear

Re: Preconditions for changing a representative glyph?

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: For symbols, once you leave the canonical shape behind, there's always the argument that what you have is in fact a new symbol. There are some exceptions to this, where notational aspect of symbol use is so strong

Re: Preconditions for changing a representative glyph?

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Andreas Stötzner a...@signographie.dewrote: Am 29.05.2013 um 17:39 schrieb Leo Broukhis: In light of recent news about New York adopting a redesigned handicapped symbol … I'd like to ask: what is supposed to be the trigger condition for the UTC

Re: s-j combination in Unicode?

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Andries Brouwer a...@win.tue.nl wrote: I wondered how to code an s-j overstrike combination in Unicode. I'd write s ZWJ j and use a font that has the appropriate ligature. Leo

Re: s-j combination in Unicode?

Everything dialectology-related is a fancy presentation of the phoneme attribute markup. Leo On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 2/13/2013 2:56 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Andries Brouwer a...@win.tue.nl wrote: I

Re: End of story character

Andrés, For me, ␃ U+2403 SYMBOL FOR END OF TEXT has various glyphs depending on the font. I see either an 8-pointed star with ETX inside, or a lower right corner. This seems to fit your request well. From what I've seen in various publications, commonly ∎ U+220E END OF PROOF or a similar

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Whistler, Ken ken.whist...@sap.com wrote: Leo asked: My question was narrower: assuming that the strings being compared are words, could it be supported without any markup? ... where it refers to conditional weighting based on the (identified) word

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Whistler, Ken ken.whist...@sap.com wrote: Leo Broukhis said: Granted, not yet, but by itself the argument is invalid. Unicode collation rules are descriptive; I'm not sure what you mean by that. UTS #10 is a *specification* of an algorithm, with various

UCA and Russian letter Ё

In Russian, the difference between Е and Ё is primary at the beginning of a word as they are considered distinct letters of the alphabet, yet secondary in the middle of a word, as the dieresis over Ё is not mandatory. As an example, ель ёлка, but тёлка тель, see

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

[Philippe tells me that his message that I'm quoting could have been rejected by the mailing list as spam; my answer is below.] On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: This is an interesting case. A solution would be to be able define a distinct collation

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Leif Halvard Silli xn--mlform-...@xn--mlform-iua.no wrote: You say that the difference is primary in the beginning of a word but elsewhere secondary. And yes, that orthographic dictionary that you link to above, looks as you describe. However, in reality, the

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: 2012-12-21 21:05, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: My Moscow Russian-Norwegian from 1987 and my Pocket Oxford Russian Dictionary from 2003 agree that both list words on Ё and Е under the same category – namely, under the

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Leif Halvard Silli xn--mlform-...@xn--mlform-iua.no wrote: In «Tolkovïj slovar’ sovremennogo russkogo jazïka» from 2005 («Dictionary over contempary Russian language»), has located words on Ё in its a separate category, consisting of exactly one word: Ёмкость.

Re: Old Cyrillic Yest

Telling font designers how to do their job (even if it's within Unicode's purview which I doubt) by adding new codepoints is a novel idea to say the least. Leo On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:32 AM, QSJN 4 UKR qsjn4...@gmail.com wrote: Old Cyrillic letter YEST (Є) has two variants: broad (also called

Re: A strange symbol in a Soviet calendar

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:35 AM, Julian Bradfield jcb+unic...@inf.ed.ac.uk wrote: On 2012-09-04, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: My question is about the symbol before the name Уот. Has anyone seen it before? Is it a NE arrow in a square or a spade? What does it mean? Might it simply

Re: A strange symbol in a Soviet calendar

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 9/7/2012 8:12 AM, Leo Broukhis wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:35 AM, Julian Bradfield jcb+unic...@inf.ed.ac.uk wrote: On 2012-09-04, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: My question is about the symbol before

Re: A strange symbol in a Soviet calendar

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: In my opinon the shape visible inside a a side effect of the paper texture, with inking defects the same size as those visible on the surrounding letters. My opinion is that the symbol inside the large square is a

Re: A strange symbol in a Soviet calendar

The magnification of the attached fragment is about 2x compared to what it was on the calendar page if viewed on a 100 dpi display. There are only two pages surviving, and the second one doesn't have that symbol. Ctrl-+ while viewing the attached image should help. I can see quite clearly that

Re: U+25CA LOZENGE - why is it in the Mac OS Roman character set (and therefore widespread in current fonts)?

The LOZENGE is also found in GOST 10859; my guess that it was there not to represent sown fields or female fertility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lozenge#Symbolism) but rather for its usage in modal logic to express the possibility of the following expression

Re: Small i with/out dot and with arrow

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Kent Karlsson kent.karlsso...@telia.com wrote: UAX 44 has: Characters with a soft dot, like i or j. An accent placed on these characters causes the dot to disappear. That is sort of correct, but apparently open to misinterpretation. This goes for all cc 230

Re: Small i with/out dot and with arrow

Kent, No, 20D7 is not a Diacritic, it is Other_Math, therefore the dot should remain. In general, mathematical combining characters are not diacritics. Renderers that treat combining as a synonym for diacritic and remove the dot are in error. UAX 44 says, Characters that linguistically modify

Re: Copyleft

Ↄ⃝ may be a better approximation. Leo On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jean-François Colson j...@colson.eu wrote: Recently, the Canadian symbols  (marque de commerce) and  (marque déposée) have been added to Unicode at U+1F16A and U+1F16B. Would it be possible to add the copyleft symbol

Re: UNICODE

, Brennan Smith On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: Brennan, I can only suggest http://shapecatcher.com/ - there you can draw an outline of your icon and pick an existing character that resembles it the most. Leo On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Brennan

Re: UNICODE

Hello Brendan, Do you happen to have any sculptures you need to convert to guitar riffs? Leo On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Brennan Smith brennansmit...@me.com wrote: Hello, My name is Brennan Smith and I am wondering how I can transfer my images or PNG icons to unicode? Any info will

Re: Combining latin small letters with diacritics

Speaking of U+17D2 KHMER SIGN COENG, what is a conforming renderer to do if someone writes A ្B ? (U+0041 U+17D2 U+0042) Leo On 3/6/12, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:26:43 -0600 (CST) Benjamin M Scarborough benjamin.scarboro...@utdallas.edu

Re: Combining latin small letters with diacritics

On 3/6/12, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Speaking of U+17D2 KHMER SIGN COENG, what is a conforming renderer to do if someone writes A្B ? (U+0041 U+17D2 U+0042) Roll its eyes? I guess :), but how should it look on the screen? Leo

Re: Combining latin small letters with diacritics

On 3/6/12, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: On 3/6/2012 2:34 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: On 3/6/12, Doug Ewelld...@ewellic.org wrote: Speaking of U+17D2 KHMER SIGN COENG, what is a conforming renderer to do if someone writes A្B ? (U+0041 U+17D2 U+0042) Roll its eyes? I guess :), but how

Re: Fallback Display for COENG (was: Re: Combining latin small letters with diacritics)

Thank you, Ken! What about Grapheme_Extend class characters placed out of context? It would be nice to see a dotted box in cases like AׁB (U+0041 U+05C1 HEBREW POINT SHIN DOT U+0042) Leo On 3/6/12, Ken Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: I see. I was under an impression that the renderer must

Re: Upside Down Fu character

Hi Andre, Does the upside down character ever appear in plain printed text (newspapers, books, fortune cookies), or only in drawings? Leo On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Andre Schappo a.scha...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: The character 福 means happiness 

Re: Difference between Bidi_Class 'R' and 'AL'

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com wrote: Expanding on Mark's answer, the basic difference is whether a character of Bidi class ET (percentage-type and currency symbols) when stored before or after European or Persian etc. digits goes to their

Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

In light of W*dings fonts being reviewed as a source of addenda to Unicode and the reasons for disunification mentioned in N4115, I'd like to ask if there is anything in the Symbol font that is not yet adequately represented by encoded characters (to wit: http://www.numericana.com/about.htm) and

Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

Namely, there are two characters that could be considered candidates: no-vinculum radical symbol and radical extension. Leo On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Leo Broukhis l...@mailcom.com wrote: In light of W*dings fonts being reviewed as a source of addenda to Unicode and the reasons

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