Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-24 Thread William_J_G Overington
Martin J. Dürst wrote: > Also, if you had your set of sentences and their translations, it wouldn't be > difficult to create e.g. a smart phone application for it. Thank you. Unfortunately I do not have the facilities and knowledge and skills to produce a smart phone application myself. >

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-24 Thread William_J_G Overington
Rick McGowan referred to Google Translate. I have been referred to Google Translate previously and I replied. http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m01/0112.html I thought about what Rick wrote yet the problem is the matter of provenance of the translation. The clinician could not be

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-24 Thread William_J_G Overington
>> If this invention had been made in the research laboratory of a large >> information technology company maybe things would be very different. Steven R. Loomis wrote: > I would not (and have not) leapt from an idea to a document to a standard. I > won't repeat the good and helpful advice you

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread Rick McGowan
William, All right... This is likely to be my last posting on the subject... ... there has been much objection to my invention in this mailing list over the years, with no good reason ever stated, ... If this invention had been made in the research laboratory of a large information

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread William_J_G Overington
Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > But if they say "no, you're out of scope" again, it probably means that > you're out of scope, and submitting another proposal of the same thing will > not make it any more in-scope. Well, as at the time of writing this post, 11:06 am on Friday morning here in

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread William_J_G Overington
Thank you for your comprehensive answer. Rick McGowan wrote: > Personally, I think you're getting ahead of yourself. First, you > shoulddemonstrate that you have done research and produced results > that at leastsome people find so useful and important that they >

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread William_J_G Overington
Peter Constable wrote: > Hmmm... If I (or anyone else) were to forward to the British Library every > item I post to this or other public lists or fora, or anything else I'd like > to have publicly recorded, they'll provide a permanent, public record? No. For Legal Deposit, there needs to be

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2015/10/24 02:11, Rick McGowan wrote: William, All right... This is likely to be my last posting on the subject... ... there has been much objection to my invention in this mailing list over the years, with no good reason ever stated, ... If this invention had been made in the research

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread Doug Ewell
Martin J. Dürst wrote: > Well, the translation isn't perfect :-(. It translates > "Have you vomited?" to "あなたは嘔吐していますか?" > Apart from the unnecessary (in Japanese) subject, and the usually not > used question mark, it's present tense, corresponding to "Are you > vomiting?". I'm sure no doctor

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-23 Thread Steven R. Loomis
William, I work in the research laboratory (but do not speak for) a large information technology company. I'm also their primary representative to Unicode and other standards bodies. I would not (and have not) leapt from an idea to a document to a standard. I won't repeat the good and

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-22 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 10/22/2015 9:54 AM, Rick McGowan wrote: Personally, I think you're getting ahead of yourself. First, you should demonstrate that you have done research and produced results that at least some people find so useful and important that they are eager to implement the findings. Then, once you

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-22 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
It's nice that you've written proposals. I suppose the various groups will pick it up and get back to you as they usually do. But if they say "no, you're out of scope" again, it probably means that you're out of scope, and submitting another proposal of the same thing will not make it any

RE: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Constable
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:48 AM > I have no idea why deposition with the British Library is in any way > significant or even relevant. It's nice to mail documents to people who will > save them, yes.

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-22 Thread Rick McGowan
Hello William, Answers to most of your questions can be found among the pages of the Unicode Consortium website. I'll try to answer your questions about scope which may also be of interest to other subscribers, but please note that *everything I say in this e-mail is solely my own opinion and

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-21 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
On 10/16/2015 01:10 PM, William_J_G Overington wrote: I have been considering how to make progress with trying for my research to become implemented in a standardized manner. I have been informed that a group of people have examined the document that I submitted and determined that it is

Re: The scope of Unicode (from Re: How can my research become implemented in a standardized manner?)

2015-10-21 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:10:17 +0100 (BST), William_J_G Overington wrote: > What is the scope of Unicode please? An accurate idea of the scope of Unicode is best found on this page: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/consort.html > Can it ever change? Even though Iʼm not in a position to write