Re: [OT by now] Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 09:30 PM 10/26/03 -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: I can't speak for the whole of the last two centuries, but certainly current American bills and coins do not use either symbol. The bills in common use say ONE DOLLAR, FIVE DOLLARS, TEN DOLLARS, and TWENTY DOLLARS; the coins say ONE CENT, FIVE

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Peter Kirk
On 26/10/2003 20:08, John Cowan wrote: Kevin Brown scripsit: Incidentally, as far as I know, neither the dollar symbol nor cent symbol have ever appeared on Australia's paper money or coinage. Is this unusual? I can't speak for the whole of the last two centuries, but certainly current

Re: [OT by now] Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Peter Kirk
On 26/10/2003 21:30, Doug Ewell wrote: ... In my limited experience, that word DIME has done more to confuse furriners than anything else about the U.S. and Canadian monetary systems. The dime is the smallest coin in the set physically, weighing less than half as much as a nickel, and made of

Re: [OT by now] Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread John Cowan
Asmus Freytag scripsit: Many monetary systems have coin sizes and weights that are based on the traditional precious or semi-precious metals once used. The nick- name for the nickel gives that away, associating it with a different metal than the (presumably once) silver-based

RE: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Simon Butcher
Hi! snip However, the presence of two opposing conventions serves as a strong hint that there was no consensus in 1966, nor now, as to how glyph variants of the dollar sign were to be used to stand for different types of dollars. I went to school in the 1980's, and both in Victoria and

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Norbert Lindenberg
The holographic strip on the Euro notes shows the Euro symbol when viewed at certain angles. Norbert Peter Kirk wrote: The latest issue of UK banknotes do carry the pound sterling sign (with one crossbar), but this is quite new. At least the more recent former issues did not, if I remember

RE: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread jim
Simon Butcher wrote: My bank (ANZ) recently gave me literature related to obtaining foreign currency, and used the form $A (that is, with the double-bar form of the dollar sign, not the single-bar form). Considering the small glossy leaflet was about the rising Australian dollar, it's

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Michael Everson
At 20:45 -0800 2003-10-26, Doug Ewell wrote: The European Commission might have chosen to follow this example 30 years later, instead of trying to mandate that the Euro glyph remain invariant in all fonts and contexts. Doug, give that one a rest, OK? That was in 1996. -- Michael Everson * *

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Doug Ewell noted: The dollar sign was used occasionally for decoration on large-sized (pre-1929) U.S. currency, but not on small-sized issues (except for the bank-only $100,000 note). And very rarely even at that. See: http://www.money.org/bebeeexhibit.html for many exhibits of all kinds of

Re: [OT by now] Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-27 Thread Kenneth Whistler
... Ironically, in 1943-45 nickels were actually minted in silver, as nickel was considered strategic for the war effort. Current nickels are 75% copper and 25% nickel, the same as the cladding of the other coins. (Pennies are copper-clad zinc, however.) Prior to 1982, pennies were a 95%

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-26 Thread Kevin Brown
On 27/10/03 3:13 AM, Simon Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used when Australia switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was incorrect to write the single-bar form when referring to Australian dollars. I guess the single-bar form

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-26 Thread Kevin Brown
Further to my earlier reply to Simon Baker about the correct symbol for the Australian dollar, the official position is documented at http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0/c7103f5100c7663fca2569de00293f3c? OpenDocument. Regarding the currency symbols, the specific recommendation of

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-26 Thread Doug Ewell
Kevin Brown graphity at adelaide dot on dot net wrote: On 27/10/03 3:13 AM, Simon Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used when Australia switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was incorrect to write the single-bar form when

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-26 Thread jameskass
. John Cowan wrote, ... the coins say ONE CENT, FIVE CENTS (the name nickel is informal), ONE DIME, and QUARTER DOLLAR. And HALF DOLLAR and ONE DOLLAR. In 1883, the U. S. Mint changed the design on the five cent piece. The word CENTS was omitted from the new design, and the Roman numeral V

[OT by now] Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-26 Thread Doug Ewell
John Cowan cowan at mercury dot ccil dot org wrote: I can't speak for the whole of the last two centuries, but certainly current American bills and coins do not use either symbol. The bills in common use say ONE DOLLAR, FIVE DOLLARS, TEN DOLLARS, and TWENTY DOLLARS; the coins say ONE CENT,

Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Simon Butcher
Hi! Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include one in the future? I was taught at school that the double-bar form was

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 03:36 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote: Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include one in the future? No. I

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Peter Kirk
On 25/10/2003 10:16, Asmus Freytag wrote: At 03:36 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote: Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any

RE: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Simon Butcher
Hi! snip I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used when Australia switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was incorrect to write the single-bar form when referring to Australian dollars. It would be interesting if you could document that. That could be tough

RE: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 11:02 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote: Hi! snip I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used when Australia switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was incorrect to write the single-bar form when referring to Australian dollars. It would be interesting if

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder how long before the Euro will also de facto have a single bar? This is already done since the birth of the symbol, when some legal texts specify that (if nothing else) a uppercase letter E can be used in environments that don't support the exact

Re: Traditional dollar sign

2003-10-25 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Simon Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include one in the future? I was taught