Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
certain inalienable rights… Ahhh. I love cheese. Bob S On Jan 24, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Mark Smith via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Thanks for weighing in on this issue Kee. I realize Apple grants unto itself certain inalienable rights that are not always (in my

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-24 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Thanks for weighing in on this issue Kee. I realize Apple grants unto itself certain inalienable rights that are not always (in my opinion) wise, or justified (ie. they are open to all sorts of corporate bias and malfeasance) but as you say, “them’s the rules” and if you want to play in their

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-24 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 4:20 AM, Mark Smith via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Kee, but I am a bit puzzled by the restriction. > > That would require complicity from the businesses, which if reputable would > be a stretch, no? There is a significantly large number of certified developers.

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Andre, You are probably correct. Thanks to all of you who have responded to my question about deployment on the web. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Jan 20, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > >  > Bill, > > :-) that topic is too large for a book to be

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Bill, :-) that topic is too large for a book to be honest. What I recommend is actually building a desktop standalone. Forget the web for that app, push for an app. Best A On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:20, ELS Prothero < proth...@earthlearningsolutions.org> wrote: > Thank you, Andre, for you

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Thank you, Andre, for you wisdom. What I take from your comments is if I want to develop dynamic interactive web based apps with Livecode, I should get up to speed on JavaScript and will need to either use Livecode to generate html5, compiled with webAssembly, or find another platform to

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
WebAssembly (aka WASM) is not a silver bullet. It is not something like "you compile to WebAssembly and then PROFIT". WebAssembly and ASM.js (which is what the current HTML5 LC Runtime uses) are very similar. The advantages of WASM is that it is a lot smaller – since it is bytecode and not

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
So, Displaying bundled content only (or mostly) allows Apple's static analysis tools to take a look at your app. They can also identify outgoing connections, so they know if you are opening remote pages. If all you do is display local content, and there is no outgoing connections, then security

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode
> Thanks Kee, but I am a bit puzzled by the restriction. > > That would require complicity from the businesses, which if reputable would > be a stretch, no? For example, if I had an app that linked to course > selections on University websites, are they going to suggest that these could > be

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Thanks Kee, but I am a bit puzzled by the restriction. That would require complicity from the businesses, which if reputable would be a stretch, no? For example, if I had an app that linked to course selections on University websites, are they going to suggest that these could be portals to

RE: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-20 Thread Paul Richards via use-livecode
: William Prothero Subject: Re: Considering work with livecode server Hmmm…. I see: "Add WebAssembly build target in HTML5 deployment”, in the"team is working on right now” category. I guess, given all the delays and getting HTML5 up, I won’t hold my breath. But, I’ll certainly b

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
kee nethery wrote: > On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Mark Smith wrote: >> >> Hi Andre, how are “apps to bundled content” different from “apps that >> are portals to web content" (Jacque’s description)? Or put another >> way, if someone wanted to design a tourist app that highlighted >> interesting

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > It would sure be nice if there was some equivalent to shockwave... For all practical purposes we do: The Shockwave plugin was an executable engine you could download and install once, and then play a wide range of scripted interactive media with it. A LiveCode

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Mark Smith via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Andre, how are “apps to bundled content” different from “apps that are > portals to web content" (Jacque’s description)? Or put another way, if > someone wanted to design a tourist app that highlighted interesting

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Hmmm…. I see: "Add WebAssembly build target in HTML5 deployment”, in the"team is working on right now” category. I guess, given all the delays and getting HTML5 up, I won’t hold my breath. But, I’ll certainly be watching for it. Gaads, another subscription to purchase. But getting real livecode

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread William de Smet via use-livecode
WebAssembly is on the roadmap. https://livecode.com/resources/roadmap/ > Op 19 jan. 2021 om 20:43 heeft William Prothero via use-livecode > het volgende geschreven: > > Dan: > I just did a bit of Googling and wow! It sounds like a capability to compile > to WebAssembly would put LiveCode

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Dan: I just did a bit of Googling and wow! It sounds like a capability to compile to WebAssembly would put LiveCode in the big time. I wonder if there is any interest from the dev team. Sounds much more useful than HTML5. Best, Bill > On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dan Brown wrote: > > When

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode
When livecode supports WebAssembly as a build target you'll be able to do what you've asked On Tue, 19 Jan 2021, 20:46 William Prothero via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks, all, for your comments. It would sure be nice if there was some > equivalent to shockwave,

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, all, for your comments. It would sure be nice if there was some equivalent to shockwave, back in the days. Of course, downloadable plug-ins like shockwave and flash apparently have too many security issues and are not allowed anymore. HTML5 eventually? I assume HTML5 apps would run in

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If only! Bob S On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: A website from 1995 needs to be just as valid to the browser as one from 2021. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Hi Andre, how are “apps to bundled content” different from “apps that are portals to web content" (Jacque’s description)? Or put another way, if someone wanted to design a tourist app that highlighted interesting local tourist destinations near them with a link you can click on to purchase

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > But apps that are browsers to bundled content are OK. That is how you > get Apache Cordova and Phonegap to work. > > On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 02:06, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >>> On 1/18/21 2:20 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: >>> Building a single web-based app that

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Bill, Let me second what Richard said, you'd be better served by building desktop stack apps than by building web apps. There is no silver bullet for doing web work, there is no magical technology that makes it as easy as LC. The Web is a design by committee with various multi-billion companies

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-19 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
But apps that are browsers to bundled content are OK. That is how you get Apache Cordova and Phonegap to work. On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 02:06, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 1/18/21 2:20 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: > > > Building a single

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
That's right. Apps that are just portals to web content are forbidden. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 18, 2021 8:07:08 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 1/18/21 2:20 PM, William Prothero via

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 1/18/21 2:20 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Building a single web-based app that avoids the world of all the mobile apps and desktop idiosyncrasies is attractive. I thought mobile stores (Apple, etc) explicitly disallowed apps that were essentially just web browsers to

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > Richard, > I did understand that the server was pretty much like php, but I > didn’t know how much beyond that it could go in terms of dynamic > interaction with screen objects. LC Server does have the ability to export graphics, but being at the far end of an HTTP

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Bill, If you just want to put together good-looking quick and dirty webpages that don’t need database interaction, you might want to use Apple’s Keynote software. You can put together a presentation with links from one page to another, and just export the whole thing as HTML. It works really

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Richard, I did understand that the server was pretty much like php, but I didn’t know how much beyond that it could go in terms of dynamic interaction with screen objects. The reason I wanted to look into it’s use in a browser is that for education, lower level grades use a lot of browser

Re: Considering work with livecode server

2021-01-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bill Prothero wrote: > I’m considering doing some work with LiveCode server. ... > Can I position and drag graphic images around. For example, I’m > thinking of the capability to create an image with various parts > that I can click to hide and position based on mouse drags or > clicks or